Re: [ossec-list] OSSEC Agents cache Events if OSSEC Server is down nowadays?

2014-06-18 Thread horst knete
Hi, thx for your response. Considering some changelogs that i saw and the tests that i made, ossec still dont buffer the logs/ continue with the last not sent event. Indeed i tested NXLOG as the shipper for windows-events and it works pretty well in the comunity edition but dont have the

[ossec-list] Invalid IP Address

2014-06-18 Thread lennydesch
Hi Guys, i have a problem with the ossec-agent on windows 7. I use the appliance 2.7.1. The connection between the host and the server works. But my problem is this (see my log): 2014/06/18 14:53:27 ossec-agent Using notify time: 600 and max time to reconnect: 1800 2014/06/18 14:53:27

Re: [ossec-list] OSSEC Agents cache Events if OSSEC Server is down nowadays?

2014-06-18 Thread dan (ddp)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:19 AM, horst knete baduncl...@hotmail.de wrote: Hi, thx for your response. Considering some changelogs that i saw and the tests that i made, ossec still dont buffer the logs/ continue with the last not sent event. The OSSEC project does accept code contributions.

Re: [ossec-list] Invalid IP Address

2014-06-18 Thread dan (ddp)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:05 AM, lennyde...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Guys, i have a problem with the ossec-agent on windows 7. I use the appliance 2.7.1. The connection between the host and the server works. But my problem is this (see my log): 2014/06/18 14:53:27 ossec-agent Using notify

Re: [ossec-list] logging all, but not commands?

2014-06-18 Thread Jeremy Rossi
We would Very much welcome it. Some suggestions, but nothing more for the branch :). Agent - master: json and use first char of { to pick new code path for processing the messages. This will allow master to work with legacy agents and new agents cleanly. Master-agent: This is harder but

[ossec-list] Logall

2014-06-18 Thread Jeremy Rossi
Log all feature comes up all the time and is confusing I think and maybe something we should solve better. But I am worried about turning ossec from security to a log daemon as other tools have solved that problem. Currently logall just saves the raw messages without any metadata like file

RE: [ossec-list] logging all, but not commands?

2014-06-18 Thread James M. Pulver
Maybe I’m crazy, but I think OSSEC is like a log daemon +… It’s cross platform, it includes encryption, it has built in filtering and can do active response. Why would it make sense to duplicate log shipping if you need it to do the security stuff? I.e. OSSEC ought to be a good log aggregator

Re: [ossec-list] Logall

2014-06-18 Thread Artien Bel
I feel that OSSEC should not be expected to support reliable/guaranteed log shipping as has come up more than once in the last few weeks on this mailing list. There are very well supported comercial and free systems for that. OSSEC is a HIDS, not a log shipping application. For example; the NXLOG

Re: [ossec-list] logall

2014-06-18 Thread Jeremy Rossi
* James M. Pulver jmp...@cornell.edu [2014-06-18 12:03:15 +]: Maybe I???m crazy, but I think OSSEC is like a log daemon +??? It???s cross platform, it includes encryption, it has built in filtering and can do active response. Why would it make sense to duplicate log shipping if you need

Re: [ossec-list] logall

2014-06-18 Thread Jeremy Rossi
* James M. Pulver jmp...@cornell.edu [2014-06-18 12:03:15 +]: Maybe I???m crazy, but I think OSSEC is like a log daemon +??? It???s cross platform, it includes encryption, it has built in filtering and can do active response. Why would it make sense to duplicate log shipping if you

[ossec-list] Re: Invalid IP Address

2014-06-18 Thread lennydesch
Ok, here is the ossec agent conf. !-- READ ME FIRST. If you are configuring OSSEC for the first time, - try to use the Manage_Agent tool. Go to control panel-OSSEC Agent - to execute it. - - First, add a server-ip entry with the real IP of your server. - Second, and optionally,

[ossec-list] Re: Invalid IP Address

2014-06-18 Thread lennydesch
Ok, here is the ossec.conf: !-- READ ME FIRST. If you are configuring OSSEC for the first time, - try to use the Manage_Agent tool. Go to control panel-OSSEC Agent - to execute it. - - First, add a server-ip entry with the real IP of your server. - Second, and optionally, change

Re: [ossec-list] Re: Invalid IP Address

2014-06-18 Thread dan (ddp)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:38 AM, lennyde...@googlemail.com wrote: Ok, here is the ossec.conf: !-- READ ME FIRST. If you are configuring OSSEC for the first time, - try to use the Manage_Agent tool. Go to control panel-OSSEC Agent - to execute it. - - First, add a server-ip

Re: [ossec-list] Logall

2014-06-18 Thread Jeremy Rossi
On Jun 18, 2014, at 8:09 AM, Artien Bel artien@topicus.nl wrote: I feel that OSSEC should not be expected to support reliable/guaranteed log shipping as has come up more than once in the last few weeks on this mailing list. There are very well supported comercial and free systems for

Re: [ossec-list] logall

2014-06-18 Thread Doug Burks
Hi Jeremy, Replies inline. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 8:48 AM, Jeremy Rossi jer...@jeremyrossi.com wrote: * James M. Pulver jmp...@cornell.edu [2014-06-18 12:03:15 +]: Maybe I???m crazy, but I think OSSEC is like a log daemon +??? It???s cross platform, it includes encryption, it has

Re: [ossec-list] Logall

2014-06-18 Thread Artien Bel
I'm sure there's no technical inability to do this with OSSEC, but I feel the effort to create this could be put to better use working on features/bugfixes that have to do with it's primary task; which is being a HIDS. But if someone submits a pull request to allow reliable log transfer and there

RE: [ossec-list] logall

2014-06-18 Thread James M. Pulver
I think OSSEC should be a good logging daemon. How do you generate alerts if you can't guarantee you get the logs, if the alerts are based on central processing of the logs? This seems like a huge gaping hole in IDS to me - if I was attacking an OSSEC endpoint, first thing I'd do once I

Re: [ossec-list] logall

2014-06-18 Thread Artien Bel
Wouldn't the primary use-case be that you want to make sure that when the server goes down, when it comes back up, agent-events will be processed from the moment it went down? Or perhaps in cases of (D)DOS/network congestion, to be sure that events eventually would be delivered to the server?

RE: [ossec-list] logall

2014-06-18 Thread James M. Pulver
Well, I'm using the agent on Windows, and many are laptops. So they stay up, but wander away from our network. They currently can't connect to the OSSEC server when off our network. This may be unnecessary paranoia on our part, and we are working on what we can expose to the net at large, but

Re: [ossec-list] Logall

2014-06-18 Thread Michael Starks
On 2014-06-18 7:57, Jeremy Rossi wrote: One of the things that has become more and more clear is that people expect ossec to do this. Be it bad docs that are not clear, or something else. Part of me agrees that use the correct tools for the job, but why ship the logs twice? And more

Re: [ossec-list] Logall

2014-06-18 Thread Janelle
Agreed. And yes - why do I want 2 streams of data being sent over my network, when one is sufficient? What if the EPS is so high that sending 2 streams - one for a syslog-tool and the other for OSSEC, brings my network to its knees? It really does make sense to simply strengthen the log all

Re: [ossec-list] logging all, but not commands?

2014-06-18 Thread Janelle
I think people forget that when you put OSSEC on a server, it really does not make sense to run a syslog-type daemon sending data to a central log host at the same time OSSEC is doing it. Wastes bandwidth and since OSSEC can actually deliver more than just standard syslogs - it is much more

Re: [ossec-list] logall

2014-06-18 Thread Jeremy Rossi
* Michael Starks ossec-l...@michaelstarks.com [2014-06-18 09:21:05 -0500]: On 2014-06-18 8:47, Artien Bel wrote: Again, to be clear: I have no actual objection to this functionality than that I feel effort could be better invested in other parts of OSSEC, because there are already better

[ossec-list] Installing Standalone version - need some verification help with the steps

2014-06-18 Thread David j
Hi, I'm really a newbie in this field and I'm posting this to see if I installed a standalone version for a managed server correctly. The server is Centos 6.5. I took the following steps: # wget -q -O - https://www.atomicorp.com/installers/atomic | sh # yum install ossec-hids

Re: [ossec-list] logging all, but not commands?

2014-06-18 Thread Darin Perusich
Seriously? OSSEC is FAR from a replacement for centralized syslog server, and to think it is folly IMO. Can OSSEC guarantee it will receive all incoming logs? Can OSSEC store those logs in multiple format, text, sql database? How does OSSEC handle the archival of said logs? I could go on and on.

Re: [ossec-list] logging all, but not commands?

2014-06-18 Thread Michael Starks
On 2014-06-18 11:08, Darin Perusich wrote: Seriously? OSSEC is FAR from a replacement for centralized syslog server, and to think it is folly IMO. Can OSSEC guarantee it will receive all incoming logs? Can OSSEC store those logs in multiple format, text, sql database? How does OSSEC handle the

RE: [ossec-list] Logall

2014-06-18 Thread LostInTheTubez
When I first started using OSSEC, a big part of why I chose it as my institution's HIDS was its multi-platform support and ease of installation and use. The stock components that ship with OSSEC are everything a system administrator needs to get up and running quickly with FIM and log analysis. It

[ossec-list] OSSEC newbie. How to configure?

2014-06-18 Thread Melissa Jimenez
Hi! We recently installed OSSEC in order to comply with integrity checking standards. The computer we're interested in monitoring scans checks on a daily basis and processes financial information. I am obviously new to OSSEC, but I managed to install a virtual appliance server and then an

Re: [ossec-list] Installing Standalone version - need some verification help with the steps

2014-06-18 Thread dan (ddp)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:53 AM, David j davidatwork...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm really a newbie in this field and I'm posting this to see if I installed a standalone version for a managed server correctly. The server is Centos 6.5. I took the following steps: # wget -q -O -