Azure Pricing
As a follow up on my previous show of hands, I was wondering how many people had taken a close look at the pricing model for Windows Azure. Does anyone have any opinions on the proposed pricing? Does it suit the way you would charge for your application/service? One of the questions that come to mind for me is the choice between Windows Azure table storage and SQL Azure. Has anyone done the pricing comparison and prepared to provide a commentary on their findings? During TechEd I spent a bit of time investigating Azure pricing and have a rough calculation spreadsheet I put together. I'd be happy to share this with anyone who'd be prepared to provide feedback on it. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure
Re: Azure Pricing
I had a quick look at the pricing of SQL Azure and it seemed pretty expensive. A scenario I was looking to set up was to have a vertical market application where each user will have a separate database which is selected based upon their user when they logged in. With the current pricing that is not really a viable option when I may have 100+ databases. Craig On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com wrote: As a follow up on my previous show of hands, I was wondering how many people had taken a close look at the pricing model for Windows Azure. Does anyone have any opinions on the proposed pricing? Does it suit the way you would charge for your application/service? One of the questions that come to mind for me is the choice between Windows Azure table storage and SQL Azure. Has anyone done the pricing comparison and prepared to provide a commentary on their findings? During TechEd I spent a bit of time investigating Azure pricing and have a rough calculation spreadsheet I put together. I’d be happy to share this with anyone who’d be prepared to provide feedback on it. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure
RE: Show of hands
I've made two specific Azure apps Nick, one created DeepZoom images from RSS feeds the other creates animations of traffic cameras from around the world. Heavily used: Windows Azure - site/service hosting Windows Azure - table/blob storage Windows Azure - queues Windows Live Id Also been using the Blob storage for Image tiles, once Azure goes commercial after PDC this is the only part I'll be able to keep using L I think Rob Farley has done a bunch of stuff with SQL Azure. The last thing I want to do before the free period ends is some serious parallel processing with F#, but I doubt I'll have the time. What has everyone else been doing? John. From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 7:09 AM To: ozazure@lists.codify.com Subject: Show of hands Out of interest, can I see a quick show of hands on who is using/trying out the following: Windows Azure - site/service hosting Windows Azure - table/blob storage Windows Azure - queues SQL Azure .NET Services - Service Bus .NET Services - Queues Routers Windows Live Id Live Framework (yeh I know this has been suspended but I'm interested to know who was using it) Other Live Services Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure
RE: Show of hands
Carl Just be aware that things are changing on the .NET Services front (http://blogs.msdn.com/netservices/archive/2009/09/18/update-on-the-next-microsoft-net-services-ctp.aspx) which will remove queues and routers in the Oct CTP timeframe :( Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [mailto:carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 10:32 AM To: Nick Randolph Subject: RE: Show of hands Haven't been able to clear my schedule to have a decent play. I've got a project planned though, that will use the following: * Windows Azure - site/service hosting * .NET Services - Service Bus * .NET Services - Queues Routers * Windows Live Id (maybe) Carl. Carl Scarlett Senior .NET/WPF Developer - Genesis Team IT Applications Delivery | bankwest A: Level 5, 199 Hay Street | Perth | Western Australia | 6004 P: (08) 9449 8703 M: 0408 913 870 E: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.aumailto:carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 5:09 AM To: ozazure@lists.codify.com ozazure@lists.codify.com Subject: Show of hands Out of interest, can I see a quick show of hands on who is using/trying out the following: Windows Azure - site/service hosting Windows Azure - table/blob storage Windows Azure - queues SQL Azure .NET Services - Service Bus .NET Services - Queues Routers Windows Live Id Live Framework (yeh I know this has been suspended but I'm interested to know who was using it) Other Live Services Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.commailto:ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure ___ Unencrypted electronic mail is not secure and may not be authentic. If you have any doubts as to the contents please telephone to confirm. This electronic transmission including any attachments is intended only for those to whom it is addressed. It may contain copyright material or information that is confidential, privileged or exempt from disclosure by law. Any claim to privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken transmission of this information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not distribute or copy this transmission and should please notify the sender. Your costs for doing this will be reimbursed by the sender. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. ___ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure
RE: Azure Pricing
Ah yes, the .NET Services message/bandwidth charge can be quite high. You need to make sure that if you are transferring large quantities of data you ensure you establish a direct connection (using the Hybrid mode of the relay bindings), rather than piping stuff through the service bus. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [mailto:carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 10:40 AM To: Nick Randolph Subject: RE: Azure Pricing At a high level, it seems priced towards enterprise applications which I think is a bit premature. Early adopters will likely be project builders with small apps, and some of these prices will drive these types of applications away. At the enterprise level though, I think these are okay. I'd still suggest making them cheaper to entice take-up; developers (for the most part) are still going to have to sell the benefits to their business in order to get projects off the ground and businesses are loathe to take risks with pricing models that are new to them (especially since the GFC). My personal gripe is the .Net Services messages charge - that seems pretty steep to me. Carl. Carl Scarlett Senior .NET/WPF Developer - Genesis Team IT Applications Delivery | bankwest A: Level 5, 199 Hay Street | Perth | Western Australia | 6004 P: (08) 9449 8703 M: 0408 913 870 E: carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.aumailto:carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 7:26 AM To: ozazure@lists.codify.com ozazure@lists.codify.com Subject: Azure Pricing As a follow up on my previous show of hands, I was wondering how many people had taken a close look at the pricing model for Windows Azure. Does anyone have any opinions on the proposed pricing? Does it suit the way you would charge for your application/service? One of the questions that come to mind for me is the choice between Windows Azure table storage and SQL Azure. Has anyone done the pricing comparison and prepared to provide a commentary on their findings? During TechEd I spent a bit of time investigating Azure pricing and have a rough calculation spreadsheet I put together. I'd be happy to share this with anyone who'd be prepared to provide feedback on it. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.commailto:ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure ___ Unencrypted electronic mail is not secure and may not be authentic. If you have any doubts as to the contents please telephone to confirm. This electronic transmission including any attachments is intended only for those to whom it is addressed. It may contain copyright material or information that is confidential, privileged or exempt from disclosure by law. Any claim to privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken transmission of this information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not distribute or copy this transmission and should please notify the sender. Your costs for doing this will be reimbursed by the sender. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. ___ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
RE: Show of hands
Windows Azure - site/service hostingyes Windows Azure - table/blob storage yes Windows Azure - queuesyes SQL Azure a little. It keeps on changing, and lots of the info out there is stale / confused. And the tooling isn't quiet there yet .NET Services - Service Bus no .NET Services - Queues Routers no Windows Live Id keep planning to, but never get around to it From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 7:09 AM To: ozazure@lists.codify.com Subject: Show of hands Out of interest, can I see a quick show of hands on who is using/trying out the following: Windows Azure - site/service hosting Windows Azure - table/blob storage Windows Azure - queues SQL Azure .NET Services - Service Bus .NET Services - Queues Routers Windows Live Id Live Framework (yeh I know this has been suspended but I'm interested to know who was using it) Other Live Services Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure
[OT?] Mesh
Not sure if this is strictly on or off topic... Someone at Teched mentioned to me that as Mesh (aka livemesh / www.mesh.com) is part of services that are being retired. I think they are being replaced with the Microsoft .Net Services (so possibly on topic for this list?). I've looked about and can't find any info to confirm or deny this. I use Mesh a fair bit and was wondering if anyone can point me to some concrete info, or knows first hand? Will there be a replacement service or will Mesh be moved to the new services? seems odd that they would drop something given the amount of hype when it was first put out in beta. thx, Stephen ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure
RE: [OT?] Mesh
Stephen My understanding is that the consumer product know as Live Mesh will not be retired. However, the developer/application platform Live Framework has been withdrawn in order to be surfaced again at a later date, presumably with closer integration into the whole Windows Azure platform. Note that .NET Services is not related in functionality to Live Framework, although we may see that some of the services that were part of Live FX surface in components of .NET Services. Specifically I'm guessing that the authentication mechanism will probably be aligned with the Access control service that is part of .NET Services. Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development | +61 412 413 425 The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam. From: ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com [mailto:ozazure-boun...@lists.codify.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Tuesday, 22 September 2009 11:12 AM To: ozazure@lists.codify.com Subject: [OT?] Mesh Not sure if this is strictly on or off topic... Someone at Teched mentioned to me that as Mesh (aka livemesh / www.mesh.comhttp://www.mesh.com) is part of services that are being retired. I think they are being replaced with the Microsoft .Net Services (so possibly on topic for this list?). I've looked about and can't find any info to confirm or deny this. I use Mesh a fair bit and was wondering if anyone can point me to some concrete info, or knows first hand? Will there be a replacement service or will Mesh be moved to the new services? seems odd that they would drop something given the amount of hype when it was first put out in beta. thx, Stephen ___ ozazure mailing list ozazure@lists.codify.com http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozazure
