Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-18 Thread Richard Carde
Or SFTP (not to be confused with FTPS) which works flawlessly through firewalls, is easy to reverse publish and is secure. I don't understand why Server 2012 still doesn't do it. -- Richard Carde Ph: +44 7956 356 226 On 18 Oct 2013, at 04:22, Grant Maw grant@gmail.com wrote: Just a

RE: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-18 Thread Ken Schaefer
: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Richard Carde Sent: Friday, 18 October 2013 8:25 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] FTP client problems Or SFTP (not to be confused with FTPS) which works flawlessly through firewalls, is easy to reverse publish

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-18 Thread Jorke Odolphi
@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Date: Friday, 18 October 2013 10:46 AM To: ozDotNet ozdotnet@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com Subject: Re: [OT] FTP client problems You do need a higher end firewall though. I didn't want to confuse matters previously, but now things have calmed down I can add

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread David Richards
David, I know this might be a bit vague but I seem to recall discovering the ftp client you use at the command prompt doesn't do something it should. eg perhaps it doesn't support PASV or something like that. I know we can't connect to our ftp server from it and have to use windows explorer or

RE: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread Jorke Odolphi
October 2013 4:52 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] FTP client problems David, FileZilla works perfectly by default and lists the files and I can see the following in the trace (pasted below). What it's doing seems to make sense, but if I try similar requests from the command prompt (including

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread Greg Keogh
Re: prescription - it isn't polite to make fun of people with mental illnesses. http://www.riagenic.com/archives/934 Good lord, what little chance would I ever have of seeing that post or knowing such a thing?! It was a surprising coincidence (apologies to Scott just in case) -- Greg

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread David Connors
Command prompt ftp doesn't do pasv. You need to use client that does or get a stateful firewall or use a proxy On 17/10/2013 3:51 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: David, FileZilla works perfectly by default and lists the files and I can see the following in the trace (pasted below). What

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread Greg Keogh
David, we suspected a firewall at first, but it was ruled out a few days ago. If ftp.exe doesn't do PASV at then I was accidentally wasting my time. Web searches on this matter now hint that you're right, but I would never have guessed such a stupid thing could be true. My little C# client is

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread Greg Keogh
You do need a higher end firewall though. I didn't want to confuse matters previously, but now things have calmed down I can add that the offending server is actually inside an Amazon AWS server instance. I turned off the Windows firewall ages ago, but Amazon have their own Security Group

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread Grant Maw
Just a side-comment - maybe we're luddites here, but we use FTP all the time to get things from A to B. Every single day. I know it's old, but it's still useful. On 18 October 2013 09:46, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: You do need a higher end firewall though. I didn't want to confuse

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-17 Thread David Connors
FTP is arguably a lot better for uploads as well as network devices don't make the same assumptions about length of connections etc with FTP that they do with HTTP. David Connors da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363 Download my v-card: https://www.codify.com/cards/davidconnors Follow me on

[OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Greg Keogh
Folks, I'm getting conflicting behaviour in FTP clients on our new server. We installed an app in this new server and it died attempting to GET a file from a remote FTP server. So I ran ftp.exe from the command prompt to do the same thing as the app does in code to see what happens (thinking that

RE: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Jorke Odolphi
, 17 October 2013 9:28 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] FTP client problems Folks, I'm getting conflicting behaviour in FTP clients on our new server. We installed an app in this new server and it died attempting to GET a file from a remote FTP server. So I ran ftp.exeftp://ftp.exe from the command

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Scott Barnes
AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* [OT] FTP client problems ** ** Folks, I'm getting conflicting behaviour in FTP clients on our new server. We installed an app in this new server and it died attempting to GET a file from a remote FTP server. So I ran ftp.exe from the command

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread David Connors
. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Thursday, 17 October 2013 9:28 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* [OT] FTP client problems ** ** Folks, I'm getting conflicting behaviour in FTP clients on our new server

RE: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Jorke Odolphi
http://i.imgur.com/5sRt9Hh.gif From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2013 2:47 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] FTP client problems Chaps, FileZilla or Wireshark! The former I haven't used and I won't

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread David Connors
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: Chaps, FileZilla or Wireshark! The former I haven't used and I won't learn anything if works or nor, unless it has some tracing facility. You will learn exactly what the problem is. If it works with FileZilla using passive FTP

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread David Connors
Windows explorer uses pasv, command line does not. On 17/10/2013 3:10 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: I haven't tried FileZilla yet, but in Wireshark I have a trace of FTP failing from the command prompt and a trace working from Windows Explorer. As I expected, the results are so different

RE: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Ken Schaefer
Did you miss this step from Jorke's post? ...and attach the cap Cheers Ken From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Thursday, 17 October 2013 4:11 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: [OT] FTP client problems I haven't tried FileZilla

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Greg Keogh
Did you miss this step from Jorke’s post? Yeah, look, it's not Friday and I'm up shit creek -- Greg

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Joseph Cooney
to figure it out otherwise. ** ** *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Thursday, 17 October 2013 9:28 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* [OT] FTP client problems ** ** Folks, I'm getting conflicting behaviour

Re: [OT] FTP client problems

2013-10-16 Thread Greg Keogh
David, FileZilla works perfectly by default and lists the files and I can see the following in the trace (pasted below). What it's doing seems to make sense, but if I try similar requests from the command prompt (including the PASV) I still get 501 Server cannot accept argument when I attempt to