RE: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-08 Thread Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet
Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 11:02 PM To: ozDotNet Cc: David Connors ; Dr Greg Low Subject: RE: Blazor popularity and use Greg can you forward me some context? Can’t promise anything, but I probably have a better chance of landing on the right person’s desk. From: Dr Greg Low via oz

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-08 Thread DotNet Dude via ozdotnet
I recall reading somewhere last night there are around 25k Blazor apps in the wild (Internet facing I assume) whereas React has over 11 million (?). Don’t know about the accuracy of that but that may explain why the original poster cannot see any advertised jobs On Fri, 8 Sep 2023 at 23:58,

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-08 Thread Nathan Schultz via ozdotnet
I've only used Blazor on pet projects, and have been happy with the results. But our workplace is more back-end processing, and we use OutSystems to quickly knock together back-office SPAs. And the business has been very happy with that, so I don't see us moving to Blazor in the future. "I've

RE: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-08 Thread David Kean via ozdotnet
Greg can you forward me some context? Can’t promise anything, but I probably have a better chance of landing on the right person’s desk. From: Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 2:24 PM To: ozDotNet Cc: David Connors ; Greg Low Subject: RE: Blazor popularity and use

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-08 Thread Tom Rutter via ozdotnet
Same from my experience. For intranet apps the supported browsers are made clear. Even for Internet facing apps the supported browsers are just the main ones so I very rarely see issues at all, particularly with using stuff like bootstrap etc. On Fri, 8 Sep 2023 at 14:52, Craig vN via ozdotnet

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Craig vN via ozdotnet
Unless you are required to deal with really old browsers (IE), then I just don't see this. I work on a site/app that has literally millions of users and we would spend less than 1% of the time on dealing with browser compatibility issues. On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 1:54 PM Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <

RE: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet
(1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com<https://sqldownunder.com/> | About Greg: https://about.me/greg.low From: Tony Wright Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 2:38 PM To: ozDotNet Cc: David Connors ; Dr Greg Low Subject: Re: Blazor popu

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Tony Wright via ozdotnet
get why there isn’t some Microsoft VP screaming at people to fix > it. I know I want to, and I’m a calm person. > > > > It’s gone on way too long. > > > > Regards, > > > > Greg > > > > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 7

RE: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet
rs via ozdotnet Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 1:55 PM To: ozDotNet Cc: David Connors Subject: Re: Blazor popularity and use On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:44, Dr Greg Low mailto:g...@sqldownunder.com>> wrote: Yep, we talk about browsers like there’s consistency there. There still isn’t. And

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Grant Maw via ozdotnet
:" If ease of development was our primary concern we would all be building Microsoft Access apps. " You cannot be serious. "Ease of development" and "MS Access" do not belong in the same sentence. On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 14:13, David Connors via ozdotnet < ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: > On Fri,

RE: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet
DotNet ; David Connors Subject: Re: Blazor popularity and use I'm glad I'm not the only grumpy old fart in here! -- GK On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:44, Dr Greg Low mailto:g...@sqldownunder.com>> wrote: Yep, we talk about browsers like there’s consistency there. There still isn’t. And it’

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread David Connors via ozdotnet
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:44, Dr Greg Low wrote: > Yep, we talk about browsers like there’s consistency there. There still > isn’t. And it’s a huge hit on productivity. I see so much lost effort > trying to align pixels across different browsers, different versions of > browsers, etc. It’s just

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Greg Keogh via ozdotnet
vity is tragic. > > > > Regards, > > > > Greg > > > > Dr Greg Low > > > > 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile > > SQL Down Under | Web: https://sqldownunder.com | About Greg: > https://about.me/greg.low > > >

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Tony McGee via ozdotnet
Not so fast, Stockholm syndrome is comfy sometimes  https://world.hey.com/dhh/turbo-8-is-dropping-typescript-70165c01 https://devclass.com/2023/05/11/typescript-is-not-worth-it-for-developing-libraries-says-svelte-author-as-team-switches-to-javascript-and-jsdoc/ -T On 8/09/2023 13:05, Greg

RE: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet
gh via ozdotnet Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 1:30 PM To: ozDotNet Cc: David Connors ; Greg Keogh Subject: Re: Blazor popularity and use Sure, deploying a web app to a server is easier than distributing thick client updates to many recipients, but that's a lucky side-effect. I stand by my

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread David Connors via ozdotnet
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 13:30, Greg Keogh wrote: > Sure, deploying a web app to a server is easier than distributing thick > client updates to many recipients, but that's a lucky side-effect. I stand > by my claim that the web browser is a woefully inadequate host for business > applications. >

RE: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet
David Connors Subject: Re: Blazor popularity and use On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:06, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>> wrote I must end on a sad note. ASP.NET<http://ASP.NET>, Blazor, JS, or whatever, all finish-up rendering in a web browser. It's tragic that th

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Greg Keogh via ozdotnet
Sure, deploying a web app to a server is easier than distributing thick client updates to many recipients, but that's a lucky side-effect. I stand by my claim that the web browser is a woefully inadequate host for business applications. I even have an example from today ... A Blazor app version

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Tony Wright via ozdotnet
bwahaha, that just sounds like confirmation bias. The reason SSW might be seeing more Blazor is because that is what they are convincing their customers to use. But in terms of what is really happening out there, there are some stats around, such as the following: Most used web frameworks among

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Greg Keogh via ozdotnet
If demand *for SSW* to use Blazor is overtaking JS, then I'd believe it. I saw the statement made. I've never met a living person who uses Flutter, or the Dart language for that matter. It would be a brave decision to choose that as a development platform for the future. Does MAUI generate

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread David Connors via ozdotnet
On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:06, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet wrote > I must end on a sad note. ASP.NET, Blazor, JS, or whatever, all finish-up > rendering in a web browser. It's tragic that the ancient dumb web browser > is now the only host for web apps, and that we must attempt to present > serious

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread David Connors via ozdotnet
The only places I've ever heard of Blazor being used is . microsoft.com and this mailing list. We do Angular exclusively and see a lot of it in the wild from other dev at our client sites. On Fri, 8 Sept 2023 at 12:30, DotNet Dude via ozdotnet < ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: > I find it very

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Tony Wright via ozdotnet
I agree. React demand is far higher than any other front end framework as far as I can see. Angular ticks all the corporate governance boxes but it is so unwieldy and requires so much boilerplate before getting to the business logic it has really lost the war. Most of it comes down to popularity.

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread DotNet Dude via ozdotnet
I find it very hard to believe Blazor demand has overtaken JS. That’s an insane comment from Adam On Fri, 8 Sep 2023 at 12:05, Greg Keogh via ozdotnet wrote: > Is anyone here actively using Blazor on a decent sized project? I used it >> for a while on my last contract but am unable to find new

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Grant Maw via ozdotnet
Yes, using it in a large project. Not hiring right now afaik though On Fri, 8 Sept 2023, 11:17 am Tom Rutter via ozdotnet, < ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote: > Is anyone here actively using Blazor on a decent sized project? I used it > for a while on my last contract but am unable to find new work

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Greg Keogh via ozdotnet
> > Is anyone here actively using Blazor on a decent sized project? I used it > for a while on my last contract but am unable to find new work anywhere > that uses Blazor, not a single one! Compared to server-side ASP.NET and JS Frameworks, Blazor is a gift from heaven .. well ... sort-of.

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread DotNet Dude via ozdotnet
We tried it with one small client about two years ago and it went well but couldn’t find any developers who wanted to use Blazor to expand to other projects. We mainly use Angular now On Fri, 8 Sep 2023 at 11:14, Tom Rutter via ozdotnet wrote: > Is anyone here actively using Blazor on a decent

Re: Blazor popularity and use

2023-09-07 Thread Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet
Yes several clients doing so. Will report back if they need anyone. Get Outlook for iOS From: Tom Rutter via ozdotnet Sent: Friday, September 8, 2023 11:13:58 AM To: ozDotNet Cc: Tom Rutter Subject: Blazor popularity and use Is anyone