Re: An interesting change of direction by MS

2021-07-11 Thread Greg Keogh
>
> A part of me feels sad to see things all going to the cloud. Perhaps one
> day we won’t even be able to do anything meaningful “locally” on our device
> if there is no Internet access.
>

[It's not Friday but] I'm so sick of decades of installing, configuring,
repairing and updating operating systems that I often wish for the 1980s
when everyone had dumb terminals connected to the mainframe. I'd be happy
to have nothing on my desk but a flat screen and have all the storage and
processing "up there". There are contemporary barriers to getting my Star
Trek-like dream working: security/privacy issues, dependency on wires
running into our houses, bandwidth, payment model, etc. I sense that the
age of everyone locally running huge complex operating systems will slowly
end. Maybe mobile devices will be powerful bridges between your desktop and
the distributed "mainframe". I'm assuming that people in the future will
still want a "desktop experience". People have been working at desks for
hundreds of years and I guess it will continue for a considerable time.
Even in Star Trek they work at desks with keyboards, although voice
recognition seems to have come a long way -- *Greg K*


Re: An interesting change of direction by MS

2021-07-11 Thread mike smith
Then you get one service going down that takes multiple important services
with it. Off the top of my head recently

https://www.zdnet.com/article/akamai-apologises-after-outage-left-australias-major-banks-and-airline-systems-offline/

https://www.zdnet.com/article/sabre-systems-it-outage-cripples-airline-operations-globally/


On Sun, Jul 11, 2021, 20:53 Tom Rutter  wrote:

> A part of me feels sad to see things all going to the cloud. Perhaps one
> day we won’t even be able to do anything meaningful “locally” on our device
> if there is no Internet access. Kind of like how we now need electricity
> and Internet access for our phones at home whereas before with land lines
> we didn’t need either.
>
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 20:02, David Connors  wrote:
>
>> We have a lot of customers already there with AVD - which is an
>> interesting value prop with paying for the resources you use. One of the
>> surprisingly few clear use cases for cloud elasticity.
>>
>> Apparently Windows 11 runs on the Raspberry PI too - interesting $ entry
>> point for an AVD client if it runs okay.
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 19:13, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>>
>>> Probably the same will be said about Windows in general down the road.
>>> We’ll probably just have our whole OS somewhere in the cloud and we’ll just
>>> “remote” to it from our laptops.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:18, David Connors  wrote:
>>>
 SQL Server of Linux has been out for a while and I think it was shortly
 after it was released that it was shown to outperform on Linux compared to
 Windows Server on the same hardware.

 When you're selling cloud like we the $ story for Windows Server isn't
 great these days ... on a larger virtual machine the Windows Server license
 is a BIG chunk.

 With the earnest move to PaaS and SaaS and things like AAD instead of
 AD, I'm not sure what the value prop of Windows Server is any more - apart
 from running legacy software.

 David Connors
 da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
 Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
 LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors



 On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:02, mike smith  wrote:

> https://www.sqlservercentral.com/?na=v=43198-5c996ba084cea=1013
>
> Are they ceding the server market to Linux?
>
> Mike
>



Re: An interesting change of direction by MS

2021-07-11 Thread Tom Rutter
A part of me feels sad to see things all going to the cloud. Perhaps one
day we won’t even be able to do anything meaningful “locally” on our device
if there is no Internet access. Kind of like how we now need electricity
and Internet access for our phones at home whereas before with land lines
we didn’t need either.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 20:02, David Connors  wrote:

> We have a lot of customers already there with AVD - which is an
> interesting value prop with paying for the resources you use. One of the
> surprisingly few clear use cases for cloud elasticity.
>
> Apparently Windows 11 runs on the Raspberry PI too - interesting $ entry
> point for an AVD client if it runs okay.
>
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 19:13, Tom Rutter  wrote:
>
>> Probably the same will be said about Windows in general down the road.
>> We’ll probably just have our whole OS somewhere in the cloud and we’ll just
>> “remote” to it from our laptops.
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:18, David Connors  wrote:
>>
>>> SQL Server of Linux has been out for a while and I think it was shortly
>>> after it was released that it was shown to outperform on Linux compared to
>>> Windows Server on the same hardware.
>>>
>>> When you're selling cloud like we the $ story for Windows Server isn't
>>> great these days ... on a larger virtual machine the Windows Server license
>>> is a BIG chunk.
>>>
>>> With the earnest move to PaaS and SaaS and things like AAD instead of
>>> AD, I'm not sure what the value prop of Windows Server is any more - apart
>>> from running legacy software.
>>>
>>> David Connors
>>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:02, mike smith  wrote:
>>>
 https://www.sqlservercentral.com/?na=v=43198-5c996ba084cea=1013

 Are they ceding the server market to Linux?

 Mike

>>>


Re: An interesting change of direction by MS

2021-07-11 Thread David Connors
We have a lot of customers already there with AVD - which is an interesting
value prop with paying for the resources you use. One of the surprisingly
few clear use cases for cloud elasticity.

Apparently Windows 11 runs on the Raspberry PI too - interesting $ entry
point for an AVD client if it runs okay.

David Connors
da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors



On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 at 19:13, Tom Rutter  wrote:

> Probably the same will be said about Windows in general down the road.
> We’ll probably just have our whole OS somewhere in the cloud and we’ll just
> “remote” to it from our laptops.
>
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:18, David Connors  wrote:
>
>> SQL Server of Linux has been out for a while and I think it was shortly
>> after it was released that it was shown to outperform on Linux compared to
>> Windows Server on the same hardware.
>>
>> When you're selling cloud like we the $ story for Windows Server isn't
>> great these days ... on a larger virtual machine the Windows Server license
>> is a BIG chunk.
>>
>> With the earnest move to PaaS and SaaS and things like AAD instead of AD,
>> I'm not sure what the value prop of Windows Server is any more - apart from
>> running legacy software.
>>
>> David Connors
>> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
>> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
>> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:02, mike smith  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.sqlservercentral.com/?na=v=43198-5c996ba084cea=1013
>>>
>>> Are they ceding the server market to Linux?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>


Re: An interesting change of direction by MS

2021-07-11 Thread Tom Rutter
Probably the same will be said about Windows in general down the road.
We’ll probably just have our whole OS somewhere in the cloud and we’ll just
“remote” to it from our laptops.

On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:18, David Connors  wrote:

> SQL Server of Linux has been out for a while and I think it was shortly
> after it was released that it was shown to outperform on Linux compared to
> Windows Server on the same hardware.
>
> When you're selling cloud like we the $ story for Windows Server isn't
> great these days ... on a larger virtual machine the Windows Server license
> is a BIG chunk.
>
> With the earnest move to PaaS and SaaS and things like AAD instead of AD,
> I'm not sure what the value prop of Windows Server is any more - apart from
> running legacy software.
>
> David Connors
> da...@connors.com | M +61 417 189 363
> Telegram: https://t.me/davidconnors
> LinkedIn: http://au.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnconnors
>
>
>
> On Sat, 10 Jul 2021 at 17:02, mike smith  wrote:
>
>> https://www.sqlservercentral.com/?na=v=43198-5c996ba084cea=1013
>>
>> Are they ceding the server market to Linux?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>


An interesting change of direction by MS

2021-07-10 Thread mike smith
https://www.sqlservercentral.com/?na=v=43198-5c996ba084cea=1013

Are they ceding the server market to Linux?

Mike