Re: P5EE Status, was PAR and Apache::PAR

2003-04-03 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Rob Nagler wrote:
 Rocco Caputo writes:
  I think it's not fair.  Despite POE's widespread adoption by hobbyists
  and enterprises alike, I'm still not convinced it's ready for the
  Enterprise label.  To be sure, I'd love to call POE P5EE Enterprise
  Certified or something, but not before its time.

 Unless there is a large marketing budget behind this, I really don't
 see the point.  Your best bet is keeping a list of production systems
 that use POE with statistics about traffic and uptime.  mod_perl does
 this (sort of), and it's clear it's enterprise ready.

I don't think we need a big marketing budget.

Simply providing some kind of standards with which to comply and howing
what meets these standards and how - it will be useful to those attempting
to choose or deploy perl in 'enterprise' environments - just being able to
say 'this framework, meets these standards and if it dosn't fit, we can
replace this part with this and it will still meet the standards' will be
a boon for perl developers.

regards,

A.





Re: P5EE Status, was PAR and Apache::PAR

2003-04-02 Thread Chris Winters
Stephen Adkins wrote:
Here's the status of the P5EE Project: I continue to work on it, 
   http://www.officevision.com/pub/p5ee/activity.html
but alas, I have not made even an initial release of code worth talking
about. (That's why I haven't been talking about it.) ;-)
It's not being built specifically for P5EE, but OpenInteract 2 (a 
fairly major rewrite) should be out in a couple of months. I hope to 
give a talk on it at YAPC::NA but haven't heard yet about its 
acceptance.

I plan on creating any necessary wrappers for P5EE compatibility as 
that becomes defined/worthwhile.

OpenInteract now has a wiki site where you can learn more:

 http://openinteract.sourceforge.net/

Chris

--
Chris Winters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Building enterprise-capable snack solutions since 1988.


Re: P5EE Status, was PAR and Apache::PAR

2003-04-02 Thread Rob Nagler
Rocco Caputo writes:
 I think it's not fair.  Despite POE's widespread adoption by hobbyists
 and enterprises alike, I'm still not convinced it's ready for the
 Enterprise label.  To be sure, I'd love to call POE P5EE Enterprise
 Certified or something, but not before its time.

Unless there is a large marketing budget behind this, I really don't
see the point.  Your best bet is keeping a list of production systems
that use POE with statistics about traffic and uptime.  mod_perl does
this (sort of), and it's clear it's enterprise ready.

Rob




Re: P5EE Status, was PAR and Apache::PAR

2003-04-01 Thread Rocco Caputo
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 09:42:29AM +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:

 Is it fair to say that the Perl community at large has lost some 
 interest in the P5EE label? If it was, wouldn't SOAP-Lite and POE and 
 other engines that could be slapped with the Enterprise label be more 
 interested in participating?
 
 It's possible that I have the wrong impression though. I welcome a 
 correction in that impression. :)

I think it's not fair.  Despite POE's widespread adoption by hobbyists
and enterprises alike, I'm still not convinced it's ready for the
Enterprise label.  To be sure, I'd love to call POE P5EE Enterprise
Certified or something, but not before its time.

That said, I'm perfectly willing to be disabused of this not-ready
notion.

-- Rocco Caputo - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://poe.perl.org/