Never heard of that keyboard. What makes you think I use one please?
Does this have anything to do with Burnaware Version 6? I still need
the link for it please if you have it.
Elizabeth
At 01:46 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote:
no, wondering if you used a motif keyboard
Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think audiophiles
would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add more
speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of quality.
Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of equipment I
I may even try to make a soundbar using three Infinity beta speakers end for
end, and use the other two speakers as rear speakers, as I do now.
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From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014
You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point.
Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, you're better
off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers for doing things
like that and here's their point, for the cost of a
I think there's a little more involved in a Soundbar than an assembly of
speakers in certain positions, the Bose Soundbar I have uses some DSP effects
and I'm sure they all do to an extent.
On 26 May 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
I may even try to make a soundbar using
sorry, thought I was on the motif list, but your message came from the audio
list, sorry about this, and I have the burn aware, I'll upload it to my ftp
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From: Elizabeth thot...@earthlink.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26,
Thanks.
At 03:09 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote:
sorry, thought I was on the motif list, but your message came from
the audio list, sorry about this, and I have the burn aware, I'll
upload it to my ftp
Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how
to listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround
sound that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound
system it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround
sound I
The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on the
Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either recorded in
stereo or Mono.
On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of
Hi, Folks. Another point: not all music is formatted to be actually
surround-sound playable. For example, you may have a surround-sound
system, but the CD may not have all the surround-sound channels.
Matthew Chao
At 09:17 AM 5/26/2014, you wrote:
Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a
In which case either 2 things will happen depending on how the user has set
things up.
Either the CD player will play through left and right channels - stereo - or it
will be played using a simulated surround-sound mode using the Digital Signal
Processor of the surround sound unit, in other
I agree.
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From: brian sackrider n8...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:17 AM
Subject: listen to music in surrround sound
Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to
listen to
That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe.
- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
The fact is -
And who has said that it wasn't?
On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood k8...@att.net wrote:
That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe.
- Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent:
This is perhaps so, but my test with the Bose Lifestyle V35 showed it split
the music quite well despite not having the real 5.1 data.
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
Chao
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:57 AM
To: PC Audio
I'm sure nobody.
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
And who has said that it wasn't?
On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary
Especially if you have a real good system. I would use the Lifestyle V35 if
I had one.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of brian
sackrider
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:17 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: listen to music in
Yes they do.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 2:59 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3
I think there's a little more involved in a Soundbar than an assembly of
Elizabeth:
Gary Ray here.
I have been trying to use Burnaware 6.9 to copy music CDs. I keep getting a
final product that is not a music CD.
Are you using it to make copies of Music CDs?
Please advise.
Gary Ray
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
You need to choose audio CD to make music CDs.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 26/05/2014 19:08, Gary Ray wrote:
Elizabeth:
Gary Ray here.
I have been trying to use Burnaware 6.9 to copy music CDs. I keep getting a
final product that is
Where can one obtain this program? Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:18 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Burnaware 6
You need to choose audio CD to make music
hi,
and it is under multimedia.
Brian
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
From: Christopher Hallsworth
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:17 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Burnaware 6
You need to choose audio CD to make music CDs.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for
I am not using it to make anything at all. I missed downloading it
when the link to it was given by somebody a few days ago. So I do not
have a copy of Burnaware 6. Somebody else will have to help you out.
Elizabeth
At 02:08 PM 5/26/2014, you wrote:
Elizabeth:
Gary Ray here.
I have been
www.burnaware.com
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 26/05/2014 19:22, Dave McElroy wrote:
Where can one obtain this program? Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Christopher
That website contains version 7 which is not accessible but not
version 6 which is accessible. At least when I went there I could not
find version 6. Please point me to it if I am incorrect.
Elizabeth
At 03:24 PM 5/26/2014, you wrote:
www.burnaware.com
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the
I often listen to music in surround sound effect for the sheer enveloping
fun of it even though there can be a little loss in quality. I have a fairly
old but very good home theatre set up with Bours Wilkins media wall
speakers and a Linn Sizmik subwoofer with an Arcam AV600 receiver. Although
Ah, I see where you're coming from.
Well an audiophile has never - to my knowledge at any rate - said there wasn't
or isn't a choice, the only point most make is that Surround-Sound gear is not
really the type of stuff for the lovers of good music and as I said earlier,
the consumer can buy
Well John, I also find music in surround sound preferable than just stereo
for the reasons you mentioned, for the enveloping quality of music done that
way.
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From: John Gurd j.g...@ntlworld.com
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May
Well the first system was a Pioneer. Then when digital came out, I decided
on an Onkyo. It seems like systems I've cost around $300, U.S. for these.
- Original Message -
From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May
If you like listening to music through a surround-sound system with a DSP
effect then fine! and you're underlining the point that an audiophile is
making, you're listening to music in a way that wasn't normally intended for it
to be listened to so the argument then goes that - because of the
I'm not really sure that I am listening to music with a DSP effect.
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound
If you like
Most likely you are I should think, there would be instructions for your system
pertaining to what mode does what, if the sound is coming from multiple
speakers other than the front stereo speakers then you're using the Digital
Signal Processor of your system to create a Surround-Sound DSP
To me, listening to music in surround sound doesn't sound simulated at all.
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound
If you
If the sound of stereo music is coming out of multiple channels - say front
left-right, centre and rear left-right not to mention sub-woofer - then its
simulated surround-sound of some description, an effect created by the Digital
Signal Processor - DSP - of your equipment, how that effect is
Okay...I'll jump in on this; please understand I don't claim to know a whole
lot about it, but if one is listening to music in surround sound (and it
wasn't originally produced that way) isn't this a little like trying to
listen to music in stereo that wasn't recorded that way:? Believe me, I've
I haven't had the ability to listen in surround sound for a long time.
Indeed, most of my experience was with an analog system years ago, made
by ADS. And it was awesome. I also had the Carver sonic holography
unit, which was good, but not as good as the ads, which actually
required two speakers
That's pretty much the case yes,
On 27 May 2014, at 12:10 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:
Okay...I'll jump in on this; please understand I don't claim to know a whole
lot about it, but if one is listening to music in surround sound (and it
wasn't originally produced that way)
Yeah. Sure as hell didn't on the lifestyle V35.
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:03 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound
To me, listening to music in
What you say about the concert hall is right however, in a concert hall the
audio is usually in the front of you, that's where the stage is as far as I'm
away so that's where the audio usually comes from.
The same applies when listening in stereo, the speakers are usually in front of
you for
Yes, of course, the audio source is on the stage, which is in front of
you. But your living-room does not come close to approximating the
dimensions of even a small concert hall. So that's where the dsp and
magic of multiple speakers comes in. I don't pretend to know how they
do it. But I know
Even so, music for the most part is not recorded to take advantage of the
concert hall effect, even on our classical stations here its just recorded in
plain old fashioned stereo and I ought to know smile.
On 27 May 2014, at 12:38 pm, Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net wrote:
Yes, of course,
I must confess that I've never to this day heard surround-sound; in some
ways, I'd like to hear what it sounds like; aw but then I'd probably want it
and it's just not practical in this house! It might be that someday I'll
investigate getting a sound bar for the TV in the living room; that should
As requested.
This sample was taken from Sky.Fm's Up Tempo Smooth Jazz Channel using the
Sky.FM App for IOS, I then used AirPlay on the iPhone to stream the content
from the iPhone to the Bose Soundlink Air and this is the result.
I've made the sample available in 2 formats as follows.
Flac
I'd be quite surprised if you've never heard surround-sound before, I'm sure
you've been to a movie theatre?
On 27 May 2014, at 1:06 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:
I must confess that I've never to this day heard surround-sound; in some
ways, I'd like to hear what it sounds
You'd be surprised just how practical Surround-Sound or at least the effects
can be in any room, that's why Soundbars and so forth have been invented, you
just put the unit in your room at let the DSP do its thing.
On 27 May 2014, at 1:06 pm, Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net wrote:
I must
Good point, Mary.
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From: Mary Otten maryot...@comcast.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound
I haven't had the ability to listen in surround sound for a long time.
Well Tom, one thing I did, I collected old-time radio tapes for several
years during the 80's. I used a graphics equalizer at the time, and I
created a stereo effect by puttinng one voice on the left channel by raising
the left lever, and for the other person, I raised the right lever to give
AAnother thing: It would seem that having the stage in front of you would
be stereo, liike Dane says, but I remember being in the band in school, and
our music surrounded us, and especially when we were in the marching band.
I like to feel like I'm in the middle of my music, rather than in
What you're doing is pretty much the sort of thing a modern day DSP is capable
of in a Surround-Sound system so try this when you get a moment.
Get one of those old time radio shows and play it on your Surround-Sound system
but set the mode to Mono Movie or similar, try different modes and see
Well I live in apartment, so I don't have room for both a good stereo system
for music, and a surround system for TV and movies.
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:10 PM
Thanks. I think I'll go there and listen.
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From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:08 PM
Subject: Sample Of Bose Soundlink Air
As requested.
This sample was taken from Sky.Fm's
Well call me a purest, but I just don't know if that type of thing would do
it for me! If I'm going to listen to OTR, I think I'd prefer to hear it as
I would have heard it on a big ole radio like they had back then! Having
said that, maybe it'd be fun to hear what it would sound like...you
Believe it or not, I can't remember the last time I went to a movie theater
to see a movie!
Tom Kaufman
-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:10 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen
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