RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[john schwery]

The Battery in my NLS player is down to around 8 
hours, now.  I don't know why they can't solve the battery life issue.


At 10:07 AM 5/4/2017, you wrote:
I read quite a lot and while at home, in my 
opinion, nothing beats the NLS player, with its 
good sound, long-lasting battery, although the 
battery life, that begins at 40 hours, slowly 
degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The 
Iphone of course, is also excellent for 
listening to BARD books, but with so many other 
apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, 
plus texting and the telephone itself, I prefer 
to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.


The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack 
horses, when you take into consideration that 
when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, 
Milestone, Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.


Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS 
players could solve the battery-life issue plus 
add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could 
add Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM 
radio, for now it uses the wire of the 
headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, etc.


Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos

Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS
player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though.
What with the app being on my phone.


On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
> Hello Hamit:
>
> Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, 
except as I said, that it does not have 
Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first 
generation.  I do not use the Milestone for 
recording except for emergencies, I have an 
Olympus DS-50 for that and I normally do not 
record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.

>
> The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with 
a grill in front, rather large for the size of 
the hardware, that plays excellent sound, 
albeit mono; to hear stereo you must use 
headphones, but either way the sound is 
remarkable for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.

>
> I normally use the NLS player to listen to 
BARD books at home, but when travelling or 
otherwise away from home, use mostly my 
Milestone, I prefer it due to size and clarity of sound.

>
> Regards,
>
> Humberto
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos

> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone
> cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
> from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
> died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
> hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
> the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day
> sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really
> wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
> services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
> more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
> send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes
> with it? Thanks.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> I am amazed that during this long discussion 
nobody has mentioned the Milestone, that Swiss 
machine with great speaker sound that also 
plays NLS books and is much smaller than the 
VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

>>
>> Humberto
>>
>> Humberto Rodriguez
>> Fort White, Florida
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio 
[mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Schindler

>> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
>> radios and recorders to in this price range, 
but unless you have some vision
>> to read the menus they won't do you much 
good. They have a small speaker and

>> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.
>>
>> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
>> good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
>> don't have sight you pay handsomely for the 
ability to have accessibility to

>> outmoded technology for a small niche market.
>>
>> If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be 

Nokia 3310 relaunch: handset unveiled ahead of its mid-June release date | WIRED UK

[Dane Trethowan]

An interesting read, I had one of these phones for a while around 15 years ago 
I think it was and loved its simplicity however I wouldn’t myself go back to 
using one now and - even suppose I really wanted to - I wouldn’t be able to use 
it as Australia is fazing out or has fazed out many of the frequency’s this 
phone used and still is using.
Anyway a boom for those who just want to use “A Phone”


> http://www.wired.co.uk/article/nokia-3310-and-nokia-6-global-launch 
> 


**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
halfwits in this world behind.

SV: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Brian Olesen]

Yo Humberto!
What a funny coincident.
I also use a CPap machine. It's even more important to me then my girlfriend I 
think. Grin
But why not look into some of the new exciting Android devices like the Samsung 
Galaxy S8, or the cheeper Huawei phones?
Have you guys ever heard about the Capsys SmartVision 2? It's a super cool 
smartphone made in france that also has lots of special apps for the blind 
build in, and a reasonable battery cycle.
At least it holds power for more than double the time  then it's the case for 
an iPhone. It's a combined keypad and touch screen phone especially build up 
from the ground to serve the visually impaired users.
Further more it's equipped with a micro sd card reader, so memory will never be 
an issue again.

Right now I have a really weird issue with my iPad that Apple has a hard time 
fixing, and I tell you. If they can't or won't fix that I'd never ever buy a 
unit from Apple again. I off course hope the best. Smile

Best regards
Brian

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Rodriguez
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Emne: RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS 
player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, 
that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The 
Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so 
many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the 
telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take into 
consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, 
Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve the 
battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could add 
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of 
the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, 
etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much better 
then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never seen 1 and 
wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS player. I too have 1. 
It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. 
What with the app being on my phone.


On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
> Hello Hamit:
>
> Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does 
> not have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first generation.  I do not 
> use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus 
> DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.
>
> The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large 
> for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to 
> hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable 
> for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.
>
> I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when 
> travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it 
> due to size and clarity of sound.
>
> Regards,
>
> Humberto
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Hamit Campos
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the 
> MileStone cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. 
> This comming from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out 
> cause my DM420 died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts 
> as it doesn't hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off 
> it'll jump out of the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? 
> Yeah during the day sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of 
> Victor Quality. I really wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB 
> the bord of education and services for the blind of Connecticut 
> doesn't have a deal with IRTI no more apparently. Oh wells. So what's 
> the new mile stone like? Can you send me a recording made with it? 
> Especially if you've used stereo mikes with it? Thanks.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
>> Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
>> books 

RE: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Humberto Rodriguez]

I read quite a lot and while at home, in my opinion, nothing beats the NLS 
player, with its good sound, long-lasting battery, although the battery life, 
that begins at 40 hours, slowly degrades to about 16 with prolonged use.  The 
Iphone of course, is also excellent for listening to BARD books, but with so 
many other apps on the Iphone and now with unlimited data, plus texting and the 
telephone itself, I prefer to also take the Milestone 312 for the books.

The problem is that we are slowly  becoming pack horses, when you take into 
consideration that when travelling, I normally take my Iphone, Milestone, 
Olympus, ORCAM, laptop and CPap machine.

Everything could be improved of course.  The NLS players could solve the 
battery-life issue plus add Bluetooth capability;  the Milestone could add 
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth and an antenna for the FM radio, for now it uses the wire of 
the headphones as antenna; the ORCAM should be able to save the text it scans, 
etc.

Regards,

Humberto


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 7:33 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much 
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never 
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS 
player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. 
What with the app being on my phone.


On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
> Hello Hamit:
>
> Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does 
> not have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first generation.  I do not 
> use the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus 
> DS-50 for that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.
>
> The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large 
> for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to 
> hear stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable 
> for such a small player.  It also has FM radio.
>
> I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when 
> travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it 
> due to size and clarity of sound.
>
> Regards,
>
> Humberto
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit 
> Campos
> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>
> Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone
> cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
> from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
> died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
> hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
> the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day
> sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really
> wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
> services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
> more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
> send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes
> with it? Thanks.
>
>
> On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:
>> I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
>> Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
>> books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have 
>> Wi-Fi?
>>
>> Humberto
>>
>> Humberto Rodriguez
>> Fort White, Florida
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
>> Schindler
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>
>> Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
>> radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision
>> to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and
>> a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.
>>
>> The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
>> good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
>> don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to
>> outmoded technology for a small niche market.
>>
>> If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying
>> the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hamit Campos
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
>> To: 

Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

[Hamit Campos]

Cool. Yes I've red that the new 1 has a radio. I'm glad it's so much 
better then my 311. So you'd say it's worth it then? Cause I've never 
seen 1 and wasn't sure how much of an upgrade it is. As for the NLS 
player. I too have 1. It's cool looking. Don't use it as often though. 
What with the app being on my phone.



On 5/4/2017 2:03 AM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

Hello Hamit:

Yes, I do have the 312 and it is excellent, except as I said, that it does not 
have Wi-Fi.  I also have a VRS but one of the first generation.  I do not use 
the Milestone for recording except for emergencies, I have an Olympus DS-50 for 
that and I normally do not record stereo, mostly monoaural voice.

The Milestone 312 has a circular speaker with a grill in front, rather large 
for the size of the hardware, that plays excellent sound, albeit mono; to hear 
stereo you must use headphones, but either way the sound is remarkable for such 
a small player.  It also has FM radio.

I normally use the NLS player to listen to BARD books at home, but when 
travelling or otherwise away from home, use mostly my Milestone, I prefer it 
due to size and clarity of sound.

Regards,

Humberto

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 9:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Ah do you have the 312? Cause I'm sure no one's meantioned the MileStone
cause of the yuck the 311 was. Epic fale that thing was. This comming
from someone who still has 1. I only brought it back out cause my DM420
died. I only have the LS-14. It's no good for podcasts as it doesn't
hold your place and also if you turn the sucker off it'll jump out of
the folders. Wait why not use your Strattus you ask? Yeah during the day
sometimes I do. But again I'm not a big fan of Victor Quality. I really
wanted to replace my trusty old PTR2 but BESB the bord of education and
services for the blind of Connecticut doesn't have a deal with IRTI no
more apparently. Oh wells. So what's the new mile stone like? Can you
send me a recording made with it? Especially if you've used stereo mikes
with it? Thanks.


On 5/3/2017 6:06 PM, Humberto Rodriguez wrote:

I am amazed that during this long discussion nobody has mentioned the 
Milestone, that Swiss machine with great speaker sound that also plays NLS 
books and is much smaller than the VRS. Perhaps because it does not have Wi-Fi?

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary 
Schindler
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 4:57 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Look on Amazon for the Lonve players. Best buy sells some MP3 players with
radios and recorders to in this price range, but unless you have some vision
to read the menus they won't do you much good. They have a small speaker and
a headphone jack that also serves as an external mic and auxiliary input.

The players have repeat and shuffle and one can create folders too, not as
good as the Olympus machines but it can be done if you have sight. If you
don't have sight you pay handsomely for the ability to have accessibility to
outmoded technology for a small niche market.

If it wasn't for playing talking books I doubt most of us would be buying
the Victor Streams or Bookports at all.

-Original Message-
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 11:01 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

What's this 40 $ MP3 and WAV recorder?


On 5/3/2017 10:56 AM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Remember that the Victor stream was mostly meant to play talking books
with a few features added for convenience. actually you can get an MP3
player recorder for around $40.00 that has a better sounding speaker in it
and records MP3 and wave files much better, but the caveat is that you are
paying for accessible menus with the stream.

The Hims may be a better all around unit, but it costs twice as much money
as the stream.

Humanware was the first to come out with a machine that played bard books
even before NLS. Let's put everything in to context.

-Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 9:05 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

I think that's just the point.  If you're a real audiofile who enjoys
high end audio from a device, and you're really picky about how stuff
sounds, the VR stream ain't for you.  Despite all the bad press the
player has gotten here, i'll still purchase one in the next few days and
report my findings.  I do think Bluetooth functionality is something
that is lacking and needs to be in a future update.  If some of the
other specialized players can have it, so can the stream.  But i'm
buying it, fully aware of this and I'm certainly