re: Sound Forge with Window-eyes

2009-09-23 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, not being a Window Eyes user, I can't help with Sound Forge's 
interaction with that screen reader, but what sort of problems are you 
having navigating the screen? There are scripts for Jaws made by Jim 
Snowbarger, and there may be scripts to add equal functionallity with Window 
Eyes, though I'm not sure.

Thanks a lot.
Matthew 



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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I'm not following here.  What happened that led you to conclude that there 
were no advantages using SF?  What version did you examine?
Thanks.

- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and 
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but 
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages 
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate 
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons. 
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6 
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. 
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of 
 the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 itself.
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
 reduction
 but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Thanks.
 Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this 
 list
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before
transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform
 such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers 
 have
 a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi again Larry
Don't forget if you decide on Audition 1.5 you'll need the scripts, a good 
manual andJaws 7 (as later version create problems especially in the 
multitrack view.
Gordon
- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Actually, I've never tried audition. That is a good thought. Since I work
 with records ranging from home recorded 78s to albums in mint condition to
 45s and  cassettes, and open reels that threaten to fall apart with every
 touch, I like to have aa wide assortment of editors on hand. It's been my
 experience that different editors can work better with different media.
 Thanks again for the idea.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Again Larry
 Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty 
 inaccessible)
 It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up
 till
 jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction
 andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are 
 good -
 each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are
 accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the 
 edge
 on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in
 Audition
 it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also pretty
 navigable
 when it comes to files.
 Apologies if you know it already.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system.
 I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for 
 something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do
 use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I 
 don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. 
 If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience 
 of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted
 help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit 
 of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab 
 filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it.
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could
 open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of
 the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6
 itself.
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread Keith Gillard
HI G!

Are you saying that the scripts aren't necessary for earlier versions of 
Audition but they are necessary for version 1.5?
Also, could you post a location where one could get the latest scripts?

Thanks.Keith

- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi again Larry
Don't forget if you decide on Audition 1.5 you'll need the scripts, a good
manual andJaws 7 (as later version create problems especially in the
multitrack view.
Gordon
- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Actually, I've never tried audition. That is a good thought. Since I work
 with records ranging from home recorded 78s to albums in mint condition to
 45s and  cassettes, and open reels that threaten to fall apart with every
 touch, I like to have aa wide assortment of editors on hand. It's been my
 experience that different editors can work better with different media.
 Thanks again for the idea.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Again Larry
 Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty
 inaccessible)
 It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up
 till
 jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction
 andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are
 good -
 each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are
 accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the
 edge
 on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in
 Audition
 it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also pretty
 navigable
 when it comes to files.
 Apologies if you know it already.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system.
 I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for
 something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do
 use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I
 don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file.
 If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience
 of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted
 help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit
 of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab
 filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it.
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could
 open
 an
 audio file, both the demo

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread Sky Taylor Mundell
You actually don't need the scripts, I can use the multi-track mode with the 
jfw Curser and the Window-Eyes curser
- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi again Larry
 Don't forget if you decide on Audition 1.5 you'll need the scripts, a good
 manual andJaws 7 (as later version create problems especially in the
 multitrack view.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Actually, I've never tried audition. That is a good thought. Since I work
 with records ranging from home recorded 78s to albums in mint condition 
 to
 45s and  cassettes, and open reels that threaten to fall apart with every
 touch, I like to have aa wide assortment of editors on hand. It's been my
 experience that different editors can work better with different media.
 Thanks again for the idea.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Again Larry
 Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty
 inaccessible)
 It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up
 till
 jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction
 andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are
 good -
 each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are
 accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the
 edge
 on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in
 Audition
 it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also pretty
 navigable
 when it comes to files.
 Apologies if you know it already.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system.
 I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for
 something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters 
 and
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do
 use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out 
 there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I
 don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file.
 If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience
 of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted
 help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the 
 buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite 
 or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them 
 in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit
 of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab
 filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of 
 it.
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could
 open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread Larry N
Hi Gary. This has gone round and round a bit, so I completely understand 
your question. Ok, here's my story which I'll try to keep on topic. To be 
totally honest I have been unable to find a site where I can download a full 
demo version of Sound Forge 8. What I'm seeing is that Sound Forge 8 demos 
aren't available because version 9 just came out. Meanwhile it's unclear as 
to how accessible version 9 is. Further, from what I've been able to learn, 
what I really need for what I want to do is Noise Reduction 2.0, wwhich, 
when sold separately costs $250 or more American. So, what I've learned is 
that seeking Sound Forge answers is far more complicated than I experienced 
when I was learning about the plusses and minuses of GoldWave and DC6. 
Finally, if I can't demo a program first, I won't consider buying it. That's 
pretty much where I stand on it right now.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I'm not following here.  What happened that led you to conclude that there
 were no advantages using SF?  What version did you examine?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. 
 I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do 
 use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted 
 help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it.
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could 
 open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of
 the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 
 itself.
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
 reduction
 but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I'm under the impression that Noise Reduction comes with SF 9.  I haven't 
bought it as of yet.
Good luck.

- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gary. This has gone round and round a bit, so I completely understand
 your question. Ok, here's my story which I'll try to keep on topic. To be
 totally honest I have been unable to find a site where I can download a 
 full
 demo version of Sound Forge 8. What I'm seeing is that Sound Forge 8 demos
 aren't available because version 9 just came out. Meanwhile it's unclear 
 as
 to how accessible version 9 is. Further, from what I've been able to 
 learn,
 what I really need for what I want to do is Noise Reduction 2.0, wwhich,
 when sold separately costs $250 or more American. So, what I've learned is
 that seeking Sound Forge answers is far more complicated than I 
 experienced
 when I was learning about the plusses and minuses of GoldWave and DC6.
 Finally, if I can't demo a program first, I won't consider buying it. 
 That's
 pretty much where I stand on it right now.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 4:27 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I'm not following here.  What happened that led you to conclude that 
 there
 were no advantages using SF?  What version did you examine?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 4:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system.
 I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for 
 something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do
 use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I 
 don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. 
 If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience 
 of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted
 help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit 
 of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab 
 filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it.
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could
 open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of
 the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6
 itself.
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread Larry N
Hi Gordon. I see that Audition 2.0 is available. Have you seen that version? 
Also, I have both Winwo-Eyes and Jaws. Do you know, or does anyone here know 
if Audition works with Window-Eyes?

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi again Larry
 Don't forget if you decide on Audition 1.5 you'll need the scripts, a good
 manual andJaws 7 (as later version create problems especially in the
 multitrack view.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Actually, I've never tried audition. That is a good thought. Since I work
 with records ranging from home recorded 78s to albums in mint condition 
 to
 45s and  cassettes, and open reels that threaten to fall apart with every
 touch, I like to have aa wide assortment of editors on hand. It's been my
 experience that different editors can work better with different media.
 Thanks again for the idea.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Again Larry
 Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty
 inaccessible)
 It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up
 till
 jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction
 andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are
 good -
 each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are
 accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the
 edge
 on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in
 Audition
 it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also pretty
 navigable
 when it comes to files.
 Apologies if you know it already.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system.
 I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for
 something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters 
 and
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do
 use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out 
 there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I
 don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file.
 If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience
 of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted
 help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the 
 buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite 
 or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them 
 in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit
 of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab
 filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of 
 it.
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could
 open
 an
 audio file, both

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-29 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi Keith Larry and(apologies) someone else whose email I've just deleted by 
accident who said they could use the multitrack view without scripts  with 
the Jaws and Window eyes cursors,
Yes, one can navigate the multitrack screen with only the jaws cursor (I've 
not used Window eyes), but the scripts make things much easier and more 
fluent. Information is given which is pertinent as to where you are in the 
screen, and the screen scrolls down with you if ;you use tracks outwith the 
screen. The edit view is also enhanced by scripts but is fairly accessible 
the way it is. As far as I can guage the scripts stopped working for me in 
an early version 7 of jaws, so you would need to load this if you wished to 
use the multitrack screen
The scripts can be found in:
http://www.kulgan.net/mick/programming/
What I've said above applies to earlier versions of Audition too (ver 1). 
Scripts are also available for the predecessor of Audition, Cool Edit Pro 1, 
2 and 2.1. I always found they worked well for me. While these programs have 
a degree of accessibility the scripts make things easier.
Now Larry, as you say version 2 is out for Audition but it is not accessible 
with scripts. The interface was changed significantly and the writer of the 
scripts (see webpage above) is not willing to write new ones. When I 
contacted him a while ago he said he would be willing to support someone who 
knew scripting and wanted to try their hand at changing them. I did not 
purchase the upgrade to version 2 when I heard this - it may be that the 
edit view is still accessible without scripts but the multitrack view 
certainly isn't easy to negotiate (according to others)
In my mind I've settled on remaining with Audition 1.5 as it really does all 
anyone who is working with sound wants to use. It's comprehensive and for a 
while anyway one could stay with it quite happily. Of course when Vista 
becomes the norm upgrading will be difficult. I have a number of four track 
session files for the multitrack view and find working with Audition quite 
satisfactory. I believe m-track is another cheaper program which is fairly 
accessible for multitracking but I'm not so sure if it is as well stocked 
with features as Audition.
Regarding noise reduction and audio restoration, most things can be done 
well with either Audition or DC6, depending on the file. I've never used 
Sound Forge's Noise Reduction package although it sounds good

Recently I've been investigating the Terratech vinyl and tape pre-amplifier 
which helps give a good clean signal before it goes into the computer, then 
their software cleans the resultant file. I've heard good things about their 
software but don't know yet whether it's accessible.
Regards.
Gordon

- Original Message - 
From: Keith Gillard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 HI G!

 Are you saying that the scripts aren't necessary for earlier versions of
 Audition but they are necessary for version 1.5?
 Also, could you post a location where one could get the latest scripts?

 Thanks.Keith

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:08 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi again Larry
 Don't forget if you decide on Audition 1.5 you'll need the scripts, a good
 manual andJaws 7 (as later version create problems especially in the
 multitrack view.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 5:51 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Actually, I've never tried audition. That is a good thought. Since I work
 with records ranging from home recorded 78s to albums in mint condition 
 to
 45s and  cassettes, and open reels that threaten to fall apart with every
 touch, I like to have aa wide assortment of editors on hand. It's been my
 experience that different editors can work better with different media.
 Thanks again for the idea.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:12 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Again Larry
 Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty
 inaccessible)
 It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up
 till
 jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction
 andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are
 good -
 each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are
 accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the
 edge
 on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in
 Audition
 it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-28 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Thanks.
Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?

- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this list 
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to 
 perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jerry Richer Com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.  It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't 
 use
 I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-28 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi
If it's dC6 it's found on
www.tracertek.com
This site not only contains much software which is good for noise reduction 
but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
Gordon
- Original Message - 
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Thanks.
 Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this list
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
 perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jerry Richer Com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.  It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't
 use
 I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-28 Thread Larry N
Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. In 
many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could open an 
audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do anything 
with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of the 
box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 itself. And 
you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only contains much software which is good for noise 
 reduction
 but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Thanks.
 Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this list
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before 
transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform 
 such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
 perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jerry Richer Com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files. 
 It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't
 use
 I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

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 outside,
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 ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30
 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml
 ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00,
 www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml
 ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml
 ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA,
 add
 $30
 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml
 ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: 
 $250,
 includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml
 ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire
 transfers, etc.
 We ship Internationally.  Click to convert our prices into your
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 at:
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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-28 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi Larry
It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't use 
it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If 
you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of 
which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate the 
process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted help 
may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program 
instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons. After a 
few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons you 
can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or 
enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible too. 
It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and 
cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6 itself.
Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in 
Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to select 
areas in DC6. Have you?
While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have 
difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of 
dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in 
themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
Regards.
Gordon
- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could open 
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do 
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 itself. 
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
 reduction
 but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Thanks.
 Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this list
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before
transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform
 such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have 
 a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
 perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jerry Richer Com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.
 It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of 
 the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't
 use
 I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

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 recorder
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 outside,
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 ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30
 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml
 ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00,
 www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml
 ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-28 Thread Larry N
Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that 
regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. I'd 
like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something 
that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and in 
automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but aside 
from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages for 
someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do use 
GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there 
that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't 
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons. After 
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons 
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible 
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to 
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 itself.
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
 reduction
 but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Thanks.
 Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this list
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before
transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform
 such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have
 a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
 perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any 
 thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jerry Richer Com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-28 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi Again Larry
Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty inaccessible) 
It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up till 
jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction 
andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are good - 
each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are 
accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the edge 
on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in Audition 
it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also pretty navigable 
when it comes to files.
Apologies if you know it already.
Gordon
- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and 
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but 
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages 
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate 
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons. 
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6 
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. 
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of 
 the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 itself.
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
 reduction
 but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Thanks.
 Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this 
 list
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
 Subject

Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-28 Thread Larry N
Actually, I've never tried audition. That is a good thought. Since I work 
with records ranging from home recorded 78s to albums in mint condition to 
45s and  cassettes, and open reels that threaten to fall apart with every 
touch, I like to have aa wide assortment of editors on hand. It's been my 
experience that different editors can work better with different media. 
Thanks again for the idea.

Larry
- Original Message - 
From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Again Larry
 Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty inaccessible)
 It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up 
 till
 jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction
 andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are good -
 each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are
 accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the edge
 on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in 
 Audition
 it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also pretty 
 navigable
 when it comes to files.
 Apologies if you know it already.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:54 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
 regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. 
 I'd
 like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something
 that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and
 in
 automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but
 aside
 from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages
 for
 someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do 
 use
 GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
 that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.

 Larry
 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


Hi Larry
 It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't
 use
 it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
 you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
 which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate
 the
 process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted 
 help
 may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
 instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons.
 After
 a
 few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
 you
 can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
 enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
 too.
 It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
 cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6
 itself.
 Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
 Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
 select
 areas in DC6. Have you?
 While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
 difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
 dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
 themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
 Regards.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it.
 In
 many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could 
 open
 an
 audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
 anything
 with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of
 the
 box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 
 itself.
 And
 you're right, it's a fine audio editor.

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: G. McFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 Hi
 If it's dC6 it's found on
 www.tracertek.com
 This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
 reduction
 but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
 Gordon
 - Original Message - 
 From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Saturday

Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-27 Thread Larry N
I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before transferring 
them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform such 
tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have a right 
to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with Window-eyes 
without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to perform 
such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed 
andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Richer Com
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.  It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't use I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

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 ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA,
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 includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml
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 We ship Internationally.  Click to convert our prices into your currency 
 at:
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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-27 Thread Gary Petraccaro
dc6?

- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have a 
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with 
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jerry Richer Com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.  It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't use 
 I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

 Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com
 ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio recorder
 with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml
 ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml
 ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00,
 www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml
 ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml
 ! Triple Talk: USB $450, PCI $350, includes delivery within the USA, add
 $30
 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/tripletalk.shtml
 ! Sound Forge 8.0 with CD Architect 5.2 and Noise Reduction 2.0: $250,
 includes delivery within the USA, add $30 outside,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml
 ! We accept PayPal All Major Credit Cards, money orders, checks, wire
 transfers, etc.
 We ship Internationally.  Click to convert our prices into your currency
 at:
 www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml

 Reach BA Software in the United States at:
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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-27 Thread Larry N
It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this list feel 
that it isn't accessible.

Larry

- Original Message - 
From: Gary Petraccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
 From: Jerry Richer Com
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.  It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't use
 I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

 Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Chirping Bat .Com
 ! Edirol R-09: high quality portable stereo Secure Digital Audio 
 recorder
 with USB, $359.00, includes delivery within the USA, add $30.00 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml
 ! DEC-TALK USB: $650.00, includes delivery in the USA, add $30 outside,
 www.chirpingbat.com/dectalkusb.shtml
 ! J-Say 4.0 without Naturally Speaking: $650.00,
 www.chirpingbat.com/j-say.shtml
 ! Window Eyes 6.0: $895, includes delivery in the USA,
 www.ChirpingBat.Com/windoweyes.shtml
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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-27 Thread G. McFarlane
Hi
DC6 is probably the leader - I use it a lot. It can also be helped by the 
front end interface called Audio Mentor which simplifies the process and 
uses the relevant filters from DC6 to make cleaning of tapes, LPs 78s etc 
easier.
I use it on whole files as I've never found navigating parts of the file 
easy. Has anyone been able to do so by keypress e.g. moving about the file 
forward and back, selecting areas. Otherwise it's range of filters, etc. are 
excellnt.
Take care.
Gordon McFarlane
- Original Message - 
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 It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this list 
 feel
 that it isn't accessible.

 Larry

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 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 dc6?

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 Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
 Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before transferring
 them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform such
 tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers have a
 right
 to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
 Window-eyes
 without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to 
 perform
 such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
 andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any thoughts?

 Larry

 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
 Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.  It
 works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
 dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't 
 use
 I
 don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-26 Thread Gary Petraccaro
I don't use scripts or set files with SF 8.
Your mileage may vary.

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  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:54 PM
  Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


  Hi. I understand that Sound Forge requires scripts when used with Jaws. But 
  What about Sound Forge with Window-Eyes. One aspect of GoldWave that I've 
  always liked is that it works with Window-eyes right out of the box. And 
  Sound Forge?

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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-26 Thread John Schwery
I believe most things in Sound Forge work with WE but some of the 
sliders do not.  You might ask on the GW-Micro list.  Somebody may 
have managed those sliders using the mouse keys.

earlier, Larry N, wrote:

Hi. I understand that Sound Forge requires scripts when used with Jaws. But
What about Sound Forge with Window-Eyes. One aspect of GoldWave that I've
always liked is that it works with Window-eyes right out of the box. And
Sound Forge?

Larry



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Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-26 Thread Jerry Richer
 I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.  It
works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of the
dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I can't use I
don't want to use anyway.

   Jerry

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Sound Forge With Window-Eyes

2007-04-25 Thread Larry N
Hi. I understand that Sound Forge requires scripts when used with Jaws. But 
What about Sound Forge with Window-Eyes. One aspect of GoldWave that I've 
always liked is that it works with Window-eyes right out of the box. And 
Sound Forge?

Larry 



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