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On 2013-06-19 22:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
What do you gain by removing in? I think we really need to stop
wasting time on little details like this, and instead work towards
real fixes.
i think the biggest gain would be to not have to
Anyhow, if by separating the GUI from the core you mean re-writing the Pd
patch
editor in Tcl/TK, I think that would create enormous headaches. i enjoyed
some of those with Max/FTS (in which the GUI layer was responsible for
editing) and Pd's separation of duties is partly a reaction
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On 2013-06-18 19:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
In general, removing bits of code willy-nilly is a bad idea.
sure.
In this case, So follow what the comment there says: This
guarantees that patches will be pixel-exact on every platform.
this
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nevertheless, here is some discussion that backs up *not* removing the
line:
http://lists.puredata.info
zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
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nevertheless, here is some discussion that backs up *not* removing the
line:
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-11/056834.html
As usual
-dev] remove tk scaling
On 06/18/2013 06:21 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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-dev] remove tk scaling
On 06/18/2013 06:21 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
From: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Cc: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] remove tk scaling
[discussion of tk scaling deleted...]
What do you gain by removing in? I think we really need to stop wasting time
on little details like this, and instead work towards real fixes. Does anyone
object to the idea of truly separating the GUI from the core? I haven't heard
them.
.hc
I
On 06/19/2013 04:38 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
[discussion of tk scaling deleted...]
What do you gain by removing in? I think we really need to stop wasting time
on little details like this, and instead work towards real fixes. Does
anyone
object to the idea of truly separating the GUI
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
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Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 11:14 PM
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There are many python
In general, removing bits of code willy-nilly is a bad idea. In this case, it
took a ton of testing to get the right set of tweaks working across all
platforms smoothly with the same pixel sizes on all platforms. Given that you
only tested on GNU/Linux, its a really bad idea to propose changes
What I've never understood is this: why wouldn't it suffice to 'unscale'
just the fonts Pd uses explicitly? One can get an unscaled font by asking
for a size like -12 - then we wouldn't have to bash tk_scalaing globally
(thereby ruining font sizes in open dialogs and whatnot that Pd doesn't
From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 1:39 PM
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In general, removing bits of code willy-nilly is a bad idea.
Agreed. Now let's talk about this specific case
From: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu
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What I've never understood is this: why wouldn't it suffice to 'unscale'
just
On 06/18/2013 06:21 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
From: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Cc: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] remove tk scaling
What I've never
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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 8:55 PM
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On 06/18/2013 06:21 PM, Jonathan
Hi Jonathan et a -
I've never understood the reason tk_scaling is touched in the TK code and
unless someone else objects I'll try taking it out of the vanilla source.
thanks
Miller
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 06:11:57PM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi list,
From tcl/pd-gui:
# we are not
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