Re: [PD-dev] gem vs. mrpeach strings?

2007-11-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi Martin Peach wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Unfortunately, looks like I found another similar bug when loading [widget]. But [widget] fails to load at all: Well OK, I'm still not clear on why the string patch should be the cause any of that. i don't think that your string

Re: [PD-dev] gem vs. mrpeach strings?

2007-11-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: is caused when the expected arguments to text2d_String don't match the type. It has absolutely nothing to do with the existence of a string/blob type unless text2dstring wants string/blob arguments. the [text3d]... objects expect a string message with pdstrings

Re: [PD-dev] gem vs. mrpeach strings?

2007-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: the [text3d]... objects expect a string message with pdstrings (according to moocows stuff). OK, so the message [string( is being interpreted by pd as a selector for A_STRING instead of just a message string, because string has become

Re: [PD-dev] overriding internals

2007-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, So for the Pd-0.40.3-extended release, I am planning on trying to make the internals available as a library like any other. I'd like this work to be applicable to pd-vanilla, so I'd like to discuss how to make it happen. cyclone does something

Re: [PD-dev] overriding internals

2007-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 10, 2007, at 3:55 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: cyclone does something like this (it overrides already registered externals, which - at this point - are not different from internals) it is basically looking whether the class-name is already

Re: [PD-dev] overriding internals

2007-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: probably because of [append] already exists? Ok, but you can use a different word. Why do these things need a special syntax of a meta object and then another selector? Also consider [trim]. If [list trim] will trim symbol from a symbol message, then

Re: [PD-dev] overriding internals

2007-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 10, 2007, at 11:25 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i guess, adding your libdir path to /etc/ld.so.conf disqualifies it as a simple package. i would really be interested in a solution for this. Thomas had this working with flext, I don't know

Re: [PD-dev] getting canvas pointer from filename

2007-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I agree, so I did this in externals/bbogart/entry/entry.c. I am going to use this in tkwidget library too. i was rather thinking about an API-function in m_pd.h, but of course the idea can be used in various places. fmasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD-dev] Is this possible - List input to inlets other than the leftmost...

2007-11-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mike McGonagle wrote: From reading some of the docs, I got the impression that it is NOT possible to have any subsequent inlets allow for list input? there is no such limit for a list in the strict sense. things are different with arbitrary messages, but would you want to do such a thing?

Re: [PD-dev] savefn + callback

2007-11-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, now I am stymied... I am trying to make the savefn in tkwidgets get the state from the Tk widgets themselves. But I can't think of a way to do that with the standard pd_bind() callback mechanism. If there was a way to bind a presave function somehow...

Re: [PD-dev] GUIs and loadbang

2007-11-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: So all of the Tk widgets that I am using save their own state while they are running, then I am planning on querying them when the savefn is called to save their state, and of course, do the opposite when opening. how are you going to do that? when the

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1837649 ] pd-extended's make does make install

2007-11-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: That sounds like a good idea, I added it to generate_install_makefile.bash and checked it in. Hm, but how do I do a make without install then? that's not an issue. the bug-report is about the binary distribution for fc/ccrma, which is pre-built anyhow. currently

Re: [PD-dev] auto-build-common.local

2007-11-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: ${SCRIPT_DIR} is never set to anything in your new changes to auto-build-common, so that auto-build-common.local will never be found unless it is in /. this is of course bad. but why? as i read the code: the autobuild-script sources

Re: [PD-dev] auto-build-common.local

2007-11-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: ${SCRIPT_DIR} is never set to anything in your new changes to auto-build-common, so that auto-build-common.local will never be found unless it is in /. this is of course bad. but why? as i read the code: the autobuild

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] hex loader

2007-11-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: right, i found out that hexloader does a bad job when trying to load patches. this part of the hexloader is obviously still experimental. what it does is to register a dummy class for an abstraction which it thinks

Re: [PD-dev] [PD] hex loader

2007-11-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i don't like matju's suggestion to provide an API, Ideally, hexloader should be merged into the core and the API would be a single function shared by the loader and the parts of the internals that do the same thing

Re: [PD-dev] autotools magic for externals?

2007-11-29 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hi all, I've been trying to use autotools (autoconf and friends) to build pdlua, but have ended up in a world of pain and deleted my experiments out of frustration. I tried to understand the system used in CVS/externals/moocow/, but the wizardry was somewhat

Re: [PD-dev] compile pd with cygwin

2007-12-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Also, it's key to point out that the standard macro is NOT WIN32, but rather _WIN32. For whatever reason, the leading underscore is needed. the leading underscore denotes that this define is private by the preprocessor, and thus should NOT be defined

Re: [PD-dev] [PD-cvs] pd/src makefile.mingw,1.3.4.1,1.3.4.2

2007-12-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Russell Bryant wrote: I'm not positive, but I don't think that this is going to do exactly what you're looking for. All that the makefile.dependencies target is going to do now is automatically generate it if it doesn't exist. However, you want it generated any time that the

Re: [PD-dev] compile pd with cygwin

2007-12-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Patrice Colet wrote: Hello, hi. I'd like to paste s_entry.c into watchdog.c, and then handle PID with one file only, what do you think about this? why would you? modular programming is about reducing the amount of duplicate code instead of increasing it. you could just link s_entry.o

Re: [PD-dev] Troubleshooting suggestions

2007-12-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mike McGonagle wrote: Hello all, I have a patch that has started to cause a crash in PD. In trying to figure out exactly what is happening, I reworked the patch, and now each of the smaller chunks of code are in their own subpatch. So, now the patch doesn't ALWAYS crash. Now the only

Re: [PD-dev] autoconf renovation

2007-12-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, Right now, in the 'externals' section, there are many build systems for different sections that reflect the build systems that the given dev used before importing the code into CVS. A couple of these use their own private autoconf setups (pdstring,

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2007-12-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo Russell ! I really don't intend to start a SCM war here, but has the discussion of switching to using svn on sourceforge instead of cvs ever come up before? This was discussed many many times before and at the pd-convention it was decided to switch to SVN. i

Re: [PD-dev] pdpedia bugs [was: Re: [ pure-data-Bugs-1856583 ] Thumbnail creation is not working]

2007-12-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, SourceForge.net hat gesagt: // SourceForge.net wrote: Bugs item #1856583, was opened at 2007-12-22 13:17 Category: pdpedia Should we deal with pdpedia bugs at Sourceforge? Personally I'm against

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2007-12-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Russell Bryant wrote: While svn:externals is certainly handy, it's something to only use where it makes sense. If a certain set of externals is primarily developed elsewhere, then it probably does make sense to use it. But, it comes down to depending on one of two factors: 1) You don't

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2008-01-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As for using svn:externals for reorganizing build systems, that seems to just be creating more work for each custom distro. I think this i don't know. what i do know is, that in _our_ custom distro, i have to explicitely cvs checkout the needed

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2008-01-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi. happy new year and another round in this oroborus... Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Pd-extended build system does this to some degree, but definitely could be improved a lot. Currently if you want to build just one section using a common build system, say sigpack, you can do

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-1862168 ] makefilename ignores %c

2008-01-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
please give us %c back in pd-0.41's [makefilename]! all things sad and ugly without... fgamsdr. IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2008-01-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 2, 2008, at 2:52 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: svn co pure-data cd pure-data/packages/darwin_app ./configure --disable-all-externals --enable-zexy --enable-iemmatrix make make package And voila, you have your custom distro. For a different

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended loadlib request

2008-01-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Could you elaborate a bit how this works, especially in regard to possible nameclashes e.g. in pd-extended? Those currently are worked around by having the libraries in different subdirectories? Example: Both maxlib and zexy have incompatible versions of [urn], so if

Re: [PD-dev] marking 'taken' patches as closed?

2008-01-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Miller Puckette wrote: Hi all, It's less clear what to do about bugs when I think I've fixed them, since a fair percentage of the time they cmoe back later in another form. if they come back at a later time (after a few weeks, when the issue has already been closed), i think one would

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended loadlib request

2008-01-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think iemmatrix needs some work, since it has a number of aliases, and aliases currently aren't supported. I am a little hesitant to what is the problem with aliases? somebody (georg) has created an alias folder some time ago for iemmatrix. i have even

Re: [PD-dev] ui development / desiredata?

2008-01-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Damian Stewart wrote: hey, - i'd like to put a scrollbar on the path preferences, so more than 10 lines can fit in pd-0.41 you _can_ do more than 10 items; even though there is still no scrollbar, which gives you trouble when having more lines than fit on your screen (esp. with

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2008-01-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 3, 2008, at 3:39 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: It sounds like we have the exact same idea of custom distros. For me, Pd-extended is a specific distro that includes a wide range of things that is intended to be the same on all platforms, like how

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2008-01-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Russell Bryant wrote: However, going back to the subject of this specific thread, is the move to an svn repository dependent upon resolving this discussion about build systems? There are benefits to making the move, even with the exact same structure and content that exists today.

[PD-dev] the output of cvs2svn

2008-02-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
so here is a (read-only) version of what the subversion repository will look-like right after the migration on thursday: http://svn.puredata.info/svnroot/pure-data/ once the migration has finished, i would like to reorganize the /branches and /tags directories, so that they become navigable

Re: [PD-dev] the output of cvs2svn

2008-02-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i guess i will also delete /trunk/CVSROOT and /trunk/htdocs the former being a leftover from CVS. the latter being unused since more than 3 years. fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http

Re: [PD-dev] the output of cvs2svn

2008-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 5, 2008, at 2:39 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i guess i will also delete /trunk/CVSROOT and /trunk/htdocs the former being a leftover from CVS. Fine by me. the latter being unused since more than 3 years

Re: [PD-dev] the output of cvs2svn

2008-02-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
David Plans Casal wrote: can't wait... i just noticed that we have to wait a bit longer: for once, uploading the svn-repository to sourceforge takes forever, as right now i cannot get more than 20kB/s, and the (zipped) svndump is more than 200MB large; however i will probably try to upload

Re: [PD-dev] the output of cvs2svn

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: for once, uploading the svn-repository to sourceforge takes forever, as right now i cannot get more than 20kB/s, Do you think it has to do with your connection or SF's connection? the latter. please note

[PD-dev] migration starting NOW (was: Re: the output of cvs2svn)

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Also, are we going to get a mail on pd-dev just before the migration starts, and another mail just before it ends? because, I suppose that we aren't supposed to commit during that time? i will start the migration to subversion NOW. please do not commit anything to

Re: [PD-dev] 'svn move' candidates

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 7, 2008, at 2:43 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, Now that IOhannes pulled off the SVN switch, (yay!), we have everything in the trunk. I would like to propose some moves: trunk/Framestein-- trunk/externals

Re: [PD-dev] Subversion up and running!

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: they are served in 0.2l glasses here, so that's actually not too much to swallow in four days. ;) Wow, this has shattered my image of Germany. it's not germany, it's only in cologne. in bayern you don't

Re: [PD-dev] Subversion up and running!

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Subversion is up and running. check it out at https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/ (beware: if you checkout the entire tree (/svnroot/pure-data), you will need a lot

Re: [PD-dev] DesireData

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Dear pd-dev, Should DesireData remain part of the pure-data sf-project, or become a separate sf-project just like GEM already is?... i think this is entirely within the responibility of the DesireData developers. I ask because HCS seems quite concerned by the

Re: [PD-dev] DesireData

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: On Feb 7, 2008 12:47 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many repositories have scripted commit policies that check all sorts of things before allowing a commit, things like it needs to compile, it needs not use deprecate libraries, etc. etc. These

Re: [PD-dev] DesireData

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
just a side-note: Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: entirely independent entities. You'll no more see DD files or logs or anything from /desiredata/pd/src in /trunk/pd/src than you will see, desiredata is an equivalent of pd, so in my nice little world, it would be /trunk/pd/src and

Re: [PD-dev] 'svn move' candidates

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: How does /branches/discontinued work? that sounds like a good choice for Framestein. well, nothing special; it is a folder where discontinued projects can be moved to, so they don't fill up the trunk. the folder could

Re: [PD-dev] DesireData

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: When looking at a file, say pd/src/s_file.c, then there are be dd- specific commits in the history, that's what I mean. That's been mostly over for a while.

[PD-dev] Subversion up and running!

2008-02-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Subversion is up and running. check it out at https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/ (beware: if you checkout the entire tree (/svnroot/pure-data), you will need a lot of space on your harddisk, as you will get multipled copies of everything) CVS is now locked for

Re: [PD-dev] [SourceForge.net: Over-quota notice for project: pure-data]

2008-02-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 11 Feb 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: o-oh, SVN has brought us to fill our quota. As I'm preparing LAC, I won't have any time at all to react to this. :( thanks, i forgot the remove the migration files. done now... So, how much

Re: [PD-dev] [SourceForge.net: Over-quota notice for project: pure-data]

2008-02-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hi, o-oh, SVN has brought us to fill our quota. As I'm preparing LAC, I won't have any time at all to react to this. :( thanks, i forgot the remove the migration files. done now... fgmasdr IOhannes Ciao ___ PD-dev

Re: [PD-dev] Protecting Pd-MAIN [was: Re: [PD] Problem in os x 10.5.1?]

2008-02-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 10 Feb 2008, Frank Barknecht wrote: I'd say, that as we now have no ACL anymore, So, what is it with the ACL ? Is it that SVN doesn't have support for that, or just that the ACL config has to be rewritten for SVN because of incompatible formats?

Re: [PD-dev] how to authenticate commits in SVN?

2008-02-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi miller, matju, all! Miller Puckette wrote: However, I don't have a password (only ssl auth, if even that exists in the same form) ... anyway to change SVN authentification methods in midstream? And/or should I just get an old-fashioned password from Iohannes? unfortunately _i_ cannot

Re: [PD-dev] DesireData

2008-02-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: desiredata is an equivalent of pd, so in my nice little world, it would be /trunk/pd/src and /trunk/desiredata/src rather than /desiredata/pd/src (there is really no reason to have a pd subfolder in desiredata

Re: [PD-dev] svn password

2008-02-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: I've never tried the ssh thing, but I remember the words svn+ssh in the SVN book. but sourceforge does not provide this access to subversion; fgmasdr. IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] section in SVN for Windows sources

2008-02-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, I guess silence = no disapproval. seems like i have missed this email, as i would have surely objected. In any case, SVN makes it easy to move/rename stuff (thanks again IOhannes!) I created this since I am now setting up my new Windows machine to build

Re: [PD-dev] pdmtl abstractions in trunk/abstractions

2008-03-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
patrick wrote: hi all, would it be possible to implement a repository mirroring in trunk/abstractions/pdmtl for pdmtl abstractions: At the bottom of http://subversion.tigris.org/ : Repository mirroring Subversion supplies a utility, svnsync for synchronizing (via either push or

Re: [PD-dev] pdmtl abstractions in trunk/abstractions

2008-03-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
patrick wrote: hi IOhannes, why not just use an external reference? we would like to include pdmtl abstractions in the auto-build. would it be possible with an external reference? yes. when doing a checkout, external references will appear to be part of the repository, even though

Re: [PD-dev] Pd OSC implementation(s) incompatible with SC3? [Fwd: Re: [sc-users] NetAddr]

2008-03-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Hi all, Thought this might be of interest to developers of OSC externals. In short: Pd OSC implementations should send OSC on the same port that they listen on, as that is the standard way OSC works. no it is not. OSC does not imply anything about the

Re: [PD-dev] [PD-Dev] : compiling pd-extended for Gentoo 64bits.

2008-03-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes I also had to add -fPIC to the compiler option. I am guessing there is probably no harm in adding -fPIC to the 32-bit builds. I know that on Mac OS X, the whole package is compiled with -fPIC. I checked in a fix, please try it on 64-bit to make sure it

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1912772 ] zexy dlls don't load from Pd-0.40.3 windowsxp

2008-03-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
SourceForge.net wrote: Bugs item #1912772, was opened at 2008-03-12 11:05 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailatid=478070aid=1912772group_id=55736 Please note that this message

Re: [PD-dev] calling external code(.dll) from pd-external(win32xp)

2008-03-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: best boy maybe this is a misunderstanding. i try to explain. i want to write a pd external (which will be a dll on win). this pd external should contain code to call functions from another dll which is not pd-related I think you would still use the same two

[PD-dev] [Fwd: Re: finding debian-dependencies of a binary]

2008-03-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Original Message From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] That sounds quite useful, I should have guessed. Could you send this to pd-dev? Georg is mostly doing this work. .hc On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:36 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hi hans. i knew

Re: [PD-dev] adding pdpedia links to all help patches

2008-03-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Who does not want this checked into trunk? me. but as i understand luke's proposal it can be done without modifying any help-patch anyhow. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at

Re: [PD-dev] names of 'pd' tags

2008-03-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/tags/pd/ I just added tags for 0.41.0 thru 0.41.2. Those tags for 'pd' are a bit of a mess, so I would like to propose cleaning them up. First, I think we can ditch the 'pd-' prefix since they

Re: [PD-dev] garrays loading

2008-03-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Sylvain Le Beux wrote: Hi everyone, I am actually writing an external which manipulates some audio buffers, and for this purpose I use garrays (i.e. garrays names are actual arguments of my external). The problem is that in order, for my external, to retrieve the data contained in the

Re: [PD-dev] string support and generic types

2008-04-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am fine with leaving the string patch in this release as it is if it will be compatible with a generic approach to defining new atoms types. Can anyone speak to that? does the patch still register the string keyword? (and in doing so breaks all other

Re: [PD-dev] svn troubles

2008-04-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There are currently four files that NTFS rejects: /externals/zexy/abs/.~-help.pd /externals/zexy/abs/.~-help.pd /externals/zexy/abs/.||~-help.pd so it's me again! i

Re: [PD-dev] svn troubles

2008-04-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: so what should we do about the inv*-icon.png file? i also noticed that there is already an inv_mul-icon.png which look exactly the same. can i just delete the inv*-icon.png from the repository? fgmasdr IOhannes ___ PD-dev

Re: [PD-dev] svn: externals/apple/apple ?

2008-04-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, so that the help patches work with [apple/iodisplay] format when working on them. hmm, since the help-patches depend on so many external libraries, why don't you just add .. (or, if you prefer, the full path to .../trunk/externals) to your search path?

Re: [PD-dev] windows xp auto-build login

2008-04-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I created a shell script /usr/local/bin/msys to make it easier to start up MSYS. Just type 'msys' from Cygwin, and it'll start the MSYS shell. thank's i will try that. nevertheless i still wonder why C:\cygwin\usr\local\include is an asio-related file

Re: [PD-dev] windows xp auto-build login

2008-04-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, http://puredata.info/about/WindowsXPI386 and shouldn't this be rather in http://puredata.info/docs/developer/ than in http://puredata.info/about/ is it ok if i move it? (and if you really want to go for a _flat_ hierarchy, http://puredata.info/

Re: [PD-dev] windows xp auto-build login

2008-04-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I created a shell script /usr/local/bin/msys to make it easier to start up MSYS. Just type 'msys' from Cygwin, and it'll start the MSYS shell. thank's i will try that. unfortunately it just gave me another error: gcc bla.c

Re: [PD-dev] windows xp auto-build login

2008-04-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: can the auto-build install on any OS where the include directory does not exist yet? it configures fine on linux if the /usr/local/include directory is non-existant. it refuses to configure if /usr/local/include is a file instead of a directory. I guess that you

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-1942204 ] pdpedia Captcha

2008-04-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You cannot stop spam ever. Period. Captchas are annoying and are far from 97% effective. I have captchas on my blog and I get a lot of automated user registrations anyway. interesting. for me spamming has stopped completely after i introduced captchas on

[PD-dev] autobuild debian/testing

2008-04-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
the machine has run out of space for several days now. mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-dev mailing list PD-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] two embedded prefs for Mac: default and override all

2008-05-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: whoa, all this sounds rather elitist. it is not my intention (nor my self-perception :-)) i am just trying to find a way to do preferences in a re-useable way... It seems that a good Jack API in Pd would be the best way to handle multi-channel setups that

Re: [PD-dev] svn-access (was Re: [PD] call for testing on the nightly builds!)

2008-05-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: yes they have been carried over. what's more there are no ACLs any more. i don't know exactly what you are trying to do, but please do not to commit to trunk/pd/ directly (this should be protected by the non-existant ACLs); use the patch tracker

Re: [PD-dev] problems with hexloader in Pd-extended

2008-05-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just added hexloader into Pd-extended 0.40.3-20080517 on Mac OS X 10.4.11/Intel and tested it, and I got to odd things. First, when I load [~], or any of the abstractions based on [expr~] for the first time, [expr~] doesn't load. If I load [expr~] first,

Re: [PD-dev] problems with hexloader in Pd-extended

2008-05-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On May 18, 2008, at 9:20 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: I deleted the abstractions to test loading binaries. The abstractions seem to load fine, but then won't load [expr~]. It's the binaries that are not loading at all. no, it's embedded unknowns (yet

Re: [PD-dev] bang [block~] to query current blocksize

2008-05-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just had a thought, what about adding an outlet to [block~] that will output the block size as a float when [block~] is banged? I can't think of any other way to query what the current block size is, and it would be useful sometimes. banging [switch~]

Re: [PD-dev] setup() for hex loader

2008-05-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, Just a thought here, I am currently porting a Max object to Pd and just saw that the setup is called main(). So how about making it possible to just use setup() as the function name? if i/you remember correctly, we have been talking about this at the

Re: [PD-dev] setup() for hex loader

2008-05-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: apart from that, the same thing is also possible with M$VC, you just have to specify it differently. i think it is via _DLL_InitTerm() or the like. the only problem about it is, that it is so hard to google. i haven't found many references to _DLL_InitTerm

Re: [PD-dev] setup() for hex loader

2008-05-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On May 28, 2008, at 1:28 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: I think you can guess which one I think is good ;) the multi- objectclass library file format seems to cause a lot more problems than it solves. the key is: have your own opinion, but allow a variety

Re: [PD-dev] setup() for hex loader

2008-05-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: i think the proper way to do it is to use DllMain() http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms682583.aspx Are you sure it's not GetProcAddress() that you want? s_loader.c line 262 uses it... http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms683212.aspx yes i am sure. the

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-1971585 ] Enhanced Path and Startup dialogs

2008-05-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
SourceForge.net wrote: Initial Comment: Enhanced the Path and Startup dialogs to use Tk listbox widgets. Ran into frustration with a max of 10 total startup paths and 10 total startup commands, as well as general low level of usability for these controls. Since they haven't been

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Patches-1981332 ] add path arg to openpanel and savepanel

2008-06-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
SourceForge.net wrote: ...and periods of course. Part of the problem is that odd characters in filenames can get mangled by intervening software, as in the case of Pd, where you can't use { } or \ in a filename because you can't enter it, you get a message like keycode 92: dropped instead.

Re: [PD-dev] Messaging between Pd and GUI

2008-06-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Tarakajian, Samuel wrote: Hi everyone, So I trying to develop what amounts to a new implementation of the Pd GUI. The first step was of course to remove the old GUI, which is actually a lot simpler than I thought. Pd can actually be launched with a -nogui flag, which keeps the gui from

Re: [PD-dev] 0.42 overwriting class-definitions...

2008-06-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: this eventually breaks existing startup patches. this of course should say existing startup scripts or the like fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

Re: [PD-dev] iemlib/any vs. hexloader fix

2008-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I just randomly tried instantiating [iemlib/any] and got 1000 lines of this: iemlib/any: already loaded iemlib/any: already loaded iemlib/any: already loaded iemlib/any: already loaded iemlib/any: already loaded error: maximum object loading depth 1000

Re: [PD-dev] iemlib/any vs. hexloader fix

2008-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hmm, thanks for bringing this up. i can reproduce the problem here, BUT: i reverted my patch (it is really just modifiying 3 lines and deleting another 3) and recompiled. this is what i get: tried /tmp/pdx/20080619/usr/bin/iemlib/any.l_i386 and failed tried

Re: [PD-dev] iemlib/any vs. hexloader fix

2008-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Luke Iannini wrote: Hey, I saw this instead: libdir_loader: added 'pdsvn' to the canvas-local objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pdsvn' to the canvas-local objectclass path libdir_loader: added 'pdsvn' to the canvas-local objectclass path error: maximum object loading depth 1000 reached

Re: [PD-dev] Problems w' Ratts on Windows

2008-07-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Bryan Jurish wrote: moin Daniel, ... forwarding to pd-dev ... On 2008-07-02 01:17:53, daniel c. howe [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written: Hi Brian I re-installed a newer binary of pd-ext and added your dll... And pd said: --

Re: [PD-dev] svn:externals

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Now people are starting to use svn:externals. I support the goal of findability; I do not think that svn:externals is the best way to do that. I think svn:externals is a tool for very specific cases. Since then I

Re: [PD-dev] abstractions

2008-07-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: thanks for your argument. I just filed a feature request for pd [1] and I hope someone finds the time to implement it. hmm, how about my implementation of [initbang] from october 2006? as posted in:

[PD-dev] closing bugs (was Re: [ pure-data-Bugs-2004979 ] hid defaults to debugging (flood of hid_get_events))

2008-07-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Bug reports should be closed when they don't need any more attention. When reporting bugs, ideally people would also search closed reports to see if the issue has ever been reported or if

Re: [PD-dev] closing bugs (was Re: [ pure-data-Bugs-2004979 ] hid defaults to debugging (flood of hid_get_events))

2008-07-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Open, Pending, and Closed states have to do with attention, not the state of the bug. If someone reports a bug, then no dev can indeed, and thus frank is right when requesting that a bug should not be set to Closed when it still needs attention (e.g.

[PD-dev] enabling Gem's explicit help-patches (was: Re: Pd-cvs Digest, Vol 41, Issue 12)

2008-07-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:05:58 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] added back the help symbol prefix and set it as 'Gem/', since it is needed to make the helpfiles work in the current setup Modified Paths: --

Re: [PD-dev] sms pd external - design choices

2008-07-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: I'd be more worried about what to do when arbitrary atom-type-agnostic objects keep copies of my atoms around long after my world has deallocated the memory pointed to, and what to do when those expired atoms come back into my world... well yes, this is

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