[PD-dev] strange bug

2007-12-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i encountered a very strange bug, that seems to be very difficult to trace back. although i cannot provide very usuable information at this point (i assume), i just wanted to report it anyway. as i am not a coder and also not experienced in debugging, some of you might have hints and ideas

[PD-dev] bug report policy

2007-12-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i couldn't find out, how i can assign a certain bug report to a certain dev. as a subscriber without any special privileges am i supposed to be able to assign reports or not? if yes, how to do so? roman

Re: [PD-dev] oscillator lib

2007-12-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 12:43 -0800, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: There are a number of standard oscillators used in synthesis, I think it would be very useful to have a standard library of them. I think at this point there are already implementations of all of the oscillators that I can

Re: [PD-dev] oscillator lib

2007-12-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2007-12-21 at 23:20 +, Andy Farnell wrote: Yes! Must have implemented them all a hundered times over by now and getting rather fed up of it. excuse my ignorance, but where can i find them? are those abstractions? what externals do they rely on? roman

[PD-dev] filter lib (was: Re: oscillator lib)

2007-12-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
while we are discussing an oscillator lib, i would like to seed the idea of creating a filter library as well. there are already a bunch of filters in iemlib and also some 'coefficient calculators' for [biquad~] in ggee, but the recently introduced elementary filters provide a potential, that

Re: [PD-dev] filter lib (was: Re: oscillator lib)

2007-12-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
to catalog them and define an interface. .hc On Dec 21, 2007, at 5:33 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: while we are discussing an oscillator lib, i would like to seed the idea of creating a filter library as well. there are already a bunch of filters in iemlib and also some 'coefficient

Re: [PD-dev] declare strangeness in abstractions (0.41 test10)

2008-01-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 10:32 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: I hope nobody is yet throwing declare objects in abstractions, as that currently does something so wrong (altering the global path for the calling patch!?) that I thought it better to get rid of the whole thing for now. yes, i am using

Re: [PD-dev] declare strangeness in abstractions (0.41 test10)

2008-01-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 12:41 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: are [declare]s in abstractions ignored completely or just the flags '-path' and '-stdpath'? i would expect [declare -[std]lib xxx] to be common practice within abstractions

Re: [PD-dev] declare strangeness in abstractions (0.41 test10)

2008-01-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
or -nostdpath in an abstraction. However, I'm scared to take it away so late in the release cycle so will leave it standing for now. cheers Miller On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:03:44PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: hi miller will [declare -stdpath] work inside abstractions? thanks

Re: [PD-dev] pd-extended loadlib request

2008-01-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 16:37 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i think [declare]/[import] is definitely the way to go, and no libraries should be loaded by default. very much agreed, since this is the only way to create portable (between pd distros) patches without pref-editing hassle.

Re: [PD-dev] CVS to SVN ?

2008-01-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 09:59 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: if this is ok for everybody, we will just do it. don't know if my vote counts at all, since i don't have write access to cvs, but i am in favor of the move to svn as well. roman

Re: [PD-dev] pdmtl abstractions in trunk/abstractions

2008-03-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 10:14 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2008, patrick wrote: would it be possible to implement a repository mirroring in trunk/abstractions/pdmtl for pdmtl abstractions: At the bottom of http://subversion.tigris.org/ : Btw, are you 100% sure that the

[PD-dev] path issues (was: Re: [import] doesn't seem to add pathes)

2008-03-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
copy of the comment thread, including the initial issue submission, for this request, not just the latest update. Category: pd-extended Group: None Status: Closed Resolution: Invalid Priority: 5 Private: No Submitted By: Roman Haefeli (reduzent) Assigned to: Hans-Christoph Steiner

Re: [PD-dev] path issues (was: Re: [import] doesn't seem to add pathes)

2008-03-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
-03-18 at 11:59 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: yo.. actually my bug report was bogus, because it was not related to [import], but to how pd works on linux. it seems, that this bug was closed in the tracker, but some 'unpleasant aftertaste' remains. why are all pathes hard-coded into pd on linux

Re: [PD-dev] new distro: pd-vanilla+libs

2008-04-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:19 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ultimately, that sounds like a good goal, but it would also be a lot more work, and would cuase more bugs. There are incompatibilities between

Re: [PD-dev] hardy upgrade

2008-04-25 Thread Roman Haefeli
cool! i will be lucky to test the builds as soon hardy is released and i will be finished with school (in mid of june). roman On Thu, 2008-04-24 at 16:07 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am upgrading the ubuntu dapper LTS box to the new Hardy LTS right now. Let's hope everything goes

Re: [PD-dev] changing [declare -stdpath] behavior

2008-05-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 01:22 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: i am very much in favor of that change and i _don't_ care about any backwards compatibility issues, since [declare] has been proven to be very unreliable anyway. better to change it early, before usage of it is widely spread. personally

[PD-dev] compiling iemlibs on ubuntu hardy

2008-06-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i finally switched over from dapper to hardy and compiled all the iemlibs fine (using the original makefiles), but they couldn't be loaded: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/iemlib/iemlib1.pd_linux: undefined symbol: __stack_chk_fail_local iemlib1: can't load library i got the same error for

Re: [PD-dev] please remove old pdlua from SVN

2008-06-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
why don't you request dev-access to the pd-svn repository? without your last post, i wouldn't have noticed, that i am using a very outdated version. from a users point of view, i would like to be able to check out as much as possible from the same repository. i think, that is also the main goal

[PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-06-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all why is [range], that was initially part of maxlib, moved to pd-svn/externals/deprecated ? who decides, what is deprecated and what not? roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC:

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-06-24 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-06-24 at 12:08 +0200, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [range] was never part of maxlib. It was a silly kludge I think in like 2002. I created it, so I decided to deprecate it. from pd-svn/externals/deprecated/range.c: /* - range

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-07-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:24 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, Roman Haefeli wrote: anyway, it seems that it has been years ago, so nevermind. i was confused when trying to help someone with a patch, that uses [range], which i found in /deprecated (this person was using

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-07-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 16:05 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Roman Haefeli wrote: sorry for late reply. i couldn't figure out, what [range] from gridflow does, so it makes you difficult to have an opinion about this. the fact, that it doesn't have a '#' in its name

Re: [PD-dev] [range] from maxlib

2008-07-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 21:05 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Roman Haefeli wrote: ÿÿthe solution would be to give it a name, that clearly relates to gridflow. [gf.range] or whatsoever (similar to grid processing classnames starting with a '#'). Yes, I recently started

Re: [PD-dev] abstractions

2008-07-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2008-07-07 at 23:36 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originally [range] was only there so that when I convert jMax patches to Pd patches, I wouldn't have to do elaborate search-and-replaces. Although later on I could have decided to let it go and do things the Pd way, instead I

Re: [PD-dev] abstractions

2008-07-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-07-08 at 18:51 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw such range is very feasible with only pd language dollarg ... couldn't create it's from iemlib2. my opinion is that such externals are so vital that should be

[PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i have [tcpserver] from mrpeach installed in: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/mrpeach/tcpserver.pd_linux and i have a patch with: [declare -stdpath extra/mrpeach] [tcpserver] however, [tcpserver] doesn't instantiate. as verbose output i get: tried /home/roman/extra/mrpeach/tcpserver.l_i386

Re: [PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 18:47 -0400, marius schebella wrote: hi roman, thanks for bringing this one up :). just tested it on OSX and here is what I got: it has some effect, but not as supposed. It extends the path relative to the directory of the pdpatch (and not as stated in the help

Re: [PD-dev] [declare -stdpath]: does it work?

2008-08-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 17:42 -0500, Mike McGonagle wrote: Hi Roman, Not sure if this is the problem, but I had similar troubles like this, and to solve the issue, I saved the patch that contains the [declare] in it, and then reopened it. I guess the issue here is that declare really only

Re: [PD-dev] how to compile pdstring from moocow?

2008-08-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 18:52 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: hi all i followed the README.cvs file included and when doing 'make' i get: Making all in config make[1]: Entering directory `/home/roman/pd-svn/externals/moocow/pdstring/config' make[1]: Nothing

[PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i made some tests with the new [declare] in 0.42.0test5. here the results: -lib and -stdlib: those expand the global namespace. when having [declare -stdlib extra/zexy] somewhere, all zexy classes are available for any patches. -path and -stdpath: they expand the namespace of the parent

Re: [PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 17:55 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: Actually, I think it would be a bad idea to have an abstraction affect the search path of the containing patch. There would be no way for the patch to know about the stuff getting added to the path until the abstraction gets loaded...

Re: [PD-dev] pd watchdog in debian lenny on macbook

2008-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 23:29 +0100, Luigi wrote: Hi i am trying to build pd on debian on a macbook (DualBoot) I tried to use puredyne and realized that pd does not start at all.. it just hangs with watchdog/signalling I then build puredata from source (debian way) and the same is

Re: [PD-dev] future of [declare]

2008-11-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 12:22 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: Followup: it looks like currently, declaring a path inside an abstraction adds the declaration, buggily, to the whole line of parent patches. one result of this is that, if you have a bunch of copies of an abstraction declaring a

[PD-dev] [tcpsocketserver] - a protocol-aware wrapper around [tcpserver]

2009-01-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all, hi martin as pointed out in a previous thread, it's tricky to use [tcp*] object classes for transporting packet oriented protocols, such as OSC or FUDI. when dealing with [tcpserver], the situation gets even more tricky. when several clients are connected to a [tcpserver] and they all

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpsocketserver] - a protocol-aware wrapper around [tcpserver]

2009-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-01-12 at 15:26 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This looks very cool, we need an easy to use OSC replacement for dumpOSC/sendOSC. One thing, I get this when I load them: i am afraid, that they do not make it easier for the user to use mrpeach/osc. at the least the goal was

[PD-dev] [declare] bug (id 2251387)

2009-02-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi everyone i once posted a bug to the tracker and it still appears to be there in version 0.42.3. since this bug is kind of viral, so that it corrupts patches invisibly and without being noticed by the author, and also since quite some of my own patches got affected by that bug, i would like to

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-02-15 at 23:52 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, Right now, Pd-extended is loading a lot of libraries by default. Most people never used most of those libraries, so I think it makes sense to reduce that number to move towards the goal of having the library

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 22:58 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: At least we know it was an intentional difference: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-04/061603.html For extended would it be possible to exclude cyclone

Re: [PD-dev] stripping down Pd-extended's default libs

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 07:12 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: How does minimizing the number of loaded libraries affect the goal of storing preferences in patches?

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 00:36 -0500, Matt Barber wrote: Getting rid of cyclone's pow~ would break all of the patches that rely on cyclone's pow~, and would also make it harder to import Max/MSP patches. Removing it is not a solution. Okay. But I don't see why something that is a rather

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 21:20 +0100, Steffen Juul wrote: On 17/02/2009, at 21.06, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: correct me, if this is wrong, but i understand, that overriding internal classes doesn't work with single-file externals

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:21 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Martin Peach wrote: Well isn't it just easier to use something with a different name? If you have a backwards [pow] why not just call it [backwardspow] instead of letting users guess which [pow] is the right one? who

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 09:46 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: i think, that the question, why a new object [pack] is named pack is not rhetoric at all and isn't answered yet. so lets go again: why is [pack] from zexy called [pack]? because it is meant as a fully

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 12:59 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Here's how I think this all should work: - classes of any implementation language are treated the same (i.e. .pd_linux, .pd, .pdlua, etc). - single library format for all implementation methods - possibility for

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 10:00 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: i think, that the question, why a new object [pack] is named pack is not rhetoric at all and isn't answered yet. so lets go again: why is [pack] from zexy called [pack]? apart from the specifics

Re: [PD-dev] pow~ in Cyclone [was: Re: stripping down Pd-extended's default libs]

2009-02-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 09:36 +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: This just doesn't sound workable to me. Then you can never rely on an externals or even abstractions, since they might be an incompatible internal

[PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi martin i reckon, that you're working on tcpserver code these days, at least when ever i update mrpeach from svn, the tcpserver.c file is updated. so please tell me, if it makes sense at all to currently report bugs. after having set the buffersize using the 'clientbuf' messages, message to

[PD-dev] moocow: svn and compilation issues

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all, hi bryan i tried to compile pdstring from moocow from a fresh svn checkout and encountered some issues. - moocow/autoreconf.sh when invoked from shell, it gives the error: ../autoreconf.sh: 3: Syntax error: ( unexpected i guess, that is because it is using the wrong shebang. it runs

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 20:33 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: Well I'm trying to get rid of the bugs in it... I don't get that on WinXP though (Pd 0.41.4-extended). I set the buffer to 12 and still received 30 bytes. On Debian with Pd 0.41.4-extended I get two separate messages (each

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 21:26 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: Spoke too soon. On Debian setting the buffer to any size always returns me 2048, so that's no good. On WinXP some values (1,2) do what you said. Others (10,12) don't. I'm not sure what to do about that. It seems to be the OS.

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 21:26 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: Spoke too soon. On Debian setting the buffer to any size always returns me 2048, so that's no good. On WinXP some values (1,2) do what you said. Others (10,12) don't. I'm not sure what to do about that. It seems to be the OS.

Re: [PD-dev] moocow: svn and compilation issues

2009-04-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 21:28 +0200, Bryan Jurish wrote: moin Roman, On 2009-04-06 20:55:10, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de appears to have written: hi all, hi bryan i tried to compile pdstring from moocow from a fresh svn checkout and encountered some issues. - moocow

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: new 'clientbuf' method seems to be buggy

2009-04-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 18:49 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 21:26 +, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: Spoke too soon. On Debian setting the buffer to any size always returns me 2048, so that's no good. On WinXP some values (1,2) do what you said

[PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-04-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi martin, hi all i ve been testing the new netpd-server based on the new [tcpserver]/[tcsocketserver FUDI] now for a while and definitely could solve some problems, but some new ones were introduced. i found, that the most recent version of [tcpserver] peforms quite bad cpu-wise. this has some

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-05-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 10:17 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: i ve been testing the new netpd-server based on the new [tcpserver]/[tcsocketserver FUDI] now for a while and definitely could solve some problems, but some new ones were introduced. i found, that the most

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-05-01 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 09:16 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 10:17 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: i ve been testing the new netpd-server based on the new [tcpserver]/[tcsocketserver FUDI] now for a while and definitely could solve

Re: [PD-dev] [tcpserver]: bad performance of new version

2009-05-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 18:48 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-01 at 09:16 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 10:17 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: i ve been testing the new netpd-server based on the new

Re: [PD-dev] svn access

2009-05-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 16:29 +0200, august wrote: well, I was just trying to follower the developer wiki here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/sf_project hm... it seems, that there are actually two pages about the same thing. the more up-to-date one is: http://puredata.info/dev/cvs i

Re: [PD-dev] modular compositions of object classes

2009-09-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 21:01 +0200, mescali...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, is it possible -in the context of writing a pd external class- to invisibly patch some other object and attach to it/bind it? I'll try to explain better with an example: if I were writing an external that is somewhat

Re: [PD-dev] [mrpeach/tcpserver]: full socket send buffer blocks pd

2009-12-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Martin On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 14:09 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: Hi Roman, sorry for the late reply. Complex matters require time. I wasn't sure, if I should report that as a bug. The new version of [tcpserver] seems to work fine, BUT now it suffers again from the initial problem, that

Re: [PD-dev] setting the bug/patch tracker to login-only

2010-01-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-01-18 at 14:41 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey all, I am thinking that we should set our bug and patch trackers so that you have login in order to post. While I do want to get as many bug reports as possible, from what I have seen, the anonymous reports almost

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-2950978 ] iemlib/[soundfile_info]: does not load certain wav files

2010-03-14 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi I would like to know, how likely it is that this bug is going to be fixed in the next couple of weeks. Please do *not* understand this as a request and certainly not as a demand to fix it. Having this piece of information helps to define a strategy of what audio software can be used in an

Re: [PD-dev] [ pure-data-Bugs-2950978 ] iemlib/[soundfile_info]: does not load certain wav files

2010-03-15 Thread Roman Haefeli
Thanks for your response! On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 09:03 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-03-15 00:35, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi I would like to know, how likely it is that this bug is going to be fixed in the next couple of weeks. Please do *not* understand this as a request

Re: [PD-dev] path for embedded examples

2010-04-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 09:33 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:01:22PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 13:25 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Part of the idea of a libdir is to also include examples. Currently, this is done using an 'examples

Re: [PD-dev] path for embedded examples

2010-04-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 11:32 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:43 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 09:33 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:01:22PM +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 13:25 -0400, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD-dev] path for embedded examples

2010-04-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 15:51 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That demonstrates one reason why I avoid [declare] and made [import]. I can never remember what [declare]'s options mean. :-) You made [import] before miller made [declare]. That might rather be the reason for you to

Re: [PD-dev] hex characters in library names

2010-04-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
Could it possibly be that iemmatrix is not [hexloader]-ready yet? From the hexloader README: «CAVEAT: C also forbids to start function names with numeric values. therefore, this is a nono: []'s setupfunction would be 0x3e_setup() (ILLEGAL) we can simply fix this by putting the setup() in front:

Re: [PD-dev] mrpeach/tcpserver one last lingering bug

2010-05-06 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all Sorry to barge in without myself being involved in the matters, but I remember, that also IOhannes was working on addressing some issues of [tcpserver]. His results are in svn/externals/iem/iemnet. I haven't thoroughly tested, if those versions already solved the issues Ivica was posting.

Re: [PD-dev] Pd timing on Android

2010-05-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 11:15 -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: if it even misbehaves with -nosound most likely the OS isn't waking Pd up reliably. A test would be to try the realtime object to see if Pd is getting the time correctly from Android -- relevant for the -nosound case. If so I can't

[PD-dev] externals deb packaging questions

2010-05-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all Some questions arose about how to correctly debianize externals. Is it correct, that since both 'puredata' and 'pd-extended' provide 'pd', an external binary package should depend on 'pd'? What happens, if you install 'pd-foo' and neither of the Pd flavours is installed, which one would be

[PD-dev] external directory layout (was: [PD] no pdsend on pdextended?)

2010-05-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
I moved this to pd-dev. On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 16:23 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 09:41 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: anyhow: now that pd-extended installs everything into /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ i don't see any reason why

[PD-dev] deb again: whats the standard for externals to depend on?

2010-06-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all I just noticed, that there seems to be a little - call it - inconsistency in the two pd-externals packages shipping with debian: 'pd-zexy' depends on 'puredata' 'gem' depends on 'pd' Is there a particular reason for 'pd-zexy' to depend on 'puredata' and not 'pd', or is it simply a tiny

Re: [PD-dev] hex characters in library names

2010-06-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 10:12 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-04-14 00:19, Roman Haefeli wrote: If it is only a matter of someone doing the boring uninspiring uninteresting painful work of renaming those functions, I _might_ be able to help, if there is interest (IOhannes?). If so

Re: [PD-dev] asking for svn commit access

2010-08-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
to take 'reduzent'. Can you change it accordingly? Sorry for not having provided it in the first place. Roman On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 11:53 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all My name is Roman Haefeli and I have been an active pd-list member for a few years. Since I would like to help

Re: [PD-dev] asking for svn commit access

2010-08-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 13:23 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 12:44 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 02:00 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I guess we were super slack, you should have nagged more :). Yo, I am not in a hurry ;-) I

[PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-10 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all As you might know, a lot of the Pd libraries are being packaged for Debian. Some of them have already been uploaded and can be installed from unstable. I'd like to include also the iemmatrix library. In Pd-extended, it is bundled as a one-file-per-object library, which allows to

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 09:17 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-11-10 22:06, Roman Haefeli wrote: In the case of iemmatrix (and also zexy, which actually already is packaged as a multi-object-single-file library in Debian, but as a one-object-one-file library in Pd-extended

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 10:49 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: anyhow, until pd-hexloader is packaged, this discussion is quite moot anyhow. I could take care of packaging hexloader, but I feel you think there are other issues than with packaging. What are those? Is it still defunct? Since I

Re: [PD-dev] Debian packaging: multi-object/single-file libraries or single-object/multiple-files libraries?

2010-11-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 14:52 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I'm fine with whatever you want to do with iemmatrix. I haven't used it, so I don't really have much input on it. So I feel there is consensus about packaging iemmatrix (only) as a multi-object library. As for other

Re: [PD-dev] Adding a Timestamp

2010-11-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
There is the [date] and [time] from zexy. Roman On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 20:45 -0500, sisil mehta wrote: Hi, Can we add a timestamp to the data that i log from say, recording and prcessing sound? How to do this??? -- Regards, Sisil Mehta PhD prog...@georgia Tech

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-11-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 13:38 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: On 2010-11-28 12:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Martin and all, Just had a thought: originally everything in the 'mrpeach' folder was bundled into a single library, which I think Martin didn't really intend. I did it to get

[PD-dev] Where to report issues with 0.43 development branch?

2010-11-30 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi If people are supposed to already report bugs with the current dev (0.43) branch, where should they do so? Is this the correct place to get most recent sources from: git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data Thanks Roman

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-12-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:17 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: On 2010-11-28 15:57, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 13:38 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: On 2010-11-28 12:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Martin and all, Just had a thought: originally everything in the 'mrpeach

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-12-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 21:02 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 16:17 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: On 2010-11-28 15:57, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 13:38 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: On 2010-11-28 12:13, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Martin

Re: [PD-dev] split out 'osc' and 'net' from 'mrpeach'?

2010-12-03 Thread Roman Haefeli
erratum: On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 01:20 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: The high CPU load comes from the [tcpserver] object, but from the fact that FUDI delimiting is done in the byte realm with Pd objects. should read: The high CPU load comes _not_ from the [tcpserver] object

Re: [PD-dev] removing non-free code from pure-data SVN

2010-12-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 10:08 +0100, Sergi Lario wrote: we hurry? I think remove is not a solution although, if I'm not wrong, it seems will happen in the near future like all the others external libraries. What makes you think that? Are you confusing the Pure Data svn repository and

[PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Martin, IOhannes et al. Martin, you asked me when I last tested mrpeach's [tcpserver] when I was mentioning the blocking issue. I did another test today with two computers connected over Ethernet. When plugging out the chord, I can simulate a client disappearing without the server noticing and

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:54 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:12 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 12/09/2010 10:28 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: @ IOhannes Though I like this 'stable'/reliable behaviour of iemnet's [tcpserver], I wonder what happens, if it keeps

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 11:43 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 13, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:54 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:12 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 12/09/2010 10:28 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote

Re: [PD-dev] about [tcpserver] (mrpeach and iemnet)

2010-12-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:42 -0500, Martin wrote: On 13/12/10 10:19 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 10:54 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:12 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 12/09/2010 10:28 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: @ IOhannes Though I like

[PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi It seems that since Pd 0.43 a Pd file does not save the window manager window position and size anymore (at least on linux), but instead the position and the size of the canvas, i.e. the white patching area. This has some implications. Since window decorations (title bar, window borders)

Re: [PD-dev] Some OSC suggestions

2011-01-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 08:56 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-01-17 05:54, Roman Haefeli wrote: I suppose my explanation from above missed its main point. From what I understood, the '//' is used as a wild-card for an arbitrary number of address fields, so that //position matches /body/arm

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
that work well for Pd up to version 0.42? Roman On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi It seems that since Pd 0.43 a Pd file does not save the window manager window position and size anymore (at least on linux), but instead the position and the size of the canvas, i.e

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
? Roman On Jan 21, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: Ok. But why was it changed in the first place? Why not switching back to saving the actual window geometry (as opposed to the canvas geometry)? I mean, didn't that work well for Pd up to version 0.42? Roman On Fri

Re: [PD-dev] pd 0.43 test4: Canvas Position

2011-01-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
(I hope you don't mind if I bring that back to the list) On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 15:50 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - Original message - On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 15:31 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - Original message - On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 18:02 -0500,

Re: [PD-dev] Some OSC suggestions

2011-01-28 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 17:16 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 08:56 -0500, Martin Peach wrote: On 2011-01-17 05:54, Roman Haefeli wrote: I suppose my explanation from above missed its main point. From what I understood, the '//' is used as a wild-card for an arbitrary

[PD-dev] search pathes and externals

2011-01-31 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all I just opened a new bug about [readanysf~] not using search paths when opening a file. Only later, I noticed that also [mrpeach/binfile] does not seem to respect search paths. Now I wonder whether I am supposed to expect at all external objects to also respect the search paths as

Re: [PD-dev] iemguts release?

2011-09-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 17:36 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey IOhannes, I think iemguts is ready primetime, I think it should be included in the next Pd-extended 0.43 release. Do you have any plans on making an official release? I cannot speak for IOhannes, of course, but I

[PD-dev] Including iemnet in Pd-extended

2011-09-29 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi Hans IOhannes Martin I'd love to have the iemnet library included in Pd-extended and wanted to hear other opinions. I'd do the work, if everyone agrees. Roman ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev

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