On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 13:09 +0200, katja wrote:
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:04 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 2013-06-02 08:51, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Of course these are just the latencies in the settings-- I haven't
done the actual measurements yet.
it would be
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:
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Right. I would propose the following measurement protocol:
(setup/usecase A: Pd only through ALSA)
1. In Pd using ALSA backend, run sine test signal in 'Media Test
Audio and Midi...'
2. Set Pd's buffer to lowest
From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com
To: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
The buffer(ms) setting in Pd doesn't have any
influence on the effective latency on my box, with both cards. That is
why I
On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Sorry, I'm talking about a few things at once. One would be to test Pd by
itself
with ALSA backend vs. Pd by itself with JACK backend. That would provide
some data re: the page you linked to about latency. (My
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On 2013-06-02 08:51, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Of course these are just the latencies in the settings-- I haven't
done the actual measurements yet.
it would be interesting to have actual measurements.
everything else is wild speculation.
fgmadsr
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:04 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 2013-06-02 08:51, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Of course these are just the latencies in the settings-- I haven't
done the actual measurements yet.
it would be interesting to have actual measurements.
everything else is
From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com
To: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
Cc: pddev pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:04 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
On 2013-06
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
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Don't we want to compare straight to ALSA to pd to JACK to ALSA,
just with Pd running? Having Pulse in the mix is good to measure as
well, but I'd like to get a handle on the JACK adds no latency statement
and
From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs
From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
There's no other combination of frames/period and period/buffer you
can use to get ca. 17-20ms latency without dropouts?
Not on the hardware I'm using.
Any ideas on what is causing the discrepancy? It has to be
From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote
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On 2013-05-29 06:12, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
what works for me so far is: - - run jack as the native backend
on my desktop (jackd gets autostarted at login, and is running
throughout my session)
How do you configure jack to start at login?
i
On Wed, May 29, 2013, at 09:17 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
i dimly remember some discussion (on LAD, iirc) why having jack with
d-bus enabled by default was a bad idea.
maybe things have improved since then.
one of the problems of Pd i see is, that all the audio backends
are
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:08 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
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So, I'm curious about this:
http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/JackDbusPackaging
Specifically the D-bus only JACK route. _If_ it works reliably (and of
course that's a big if) then it gives the best of both worlds:
From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd-dev@iem.at pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
I checked it on Xubuntu: running Pulseaudio as an audio submixer
through JACK
On Wed, May 29, 2013, at 05:00 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 8:21 AM
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I
From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
To: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:17 AM
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personally i would prefer to *not* pull in additional
dependencies if possible. afair, d-bus is notorious
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On 2013-05-29 17:21, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Ok, sounds like you have two things: a) code that adds support for
pluggable audio/midi backends, and b) a pluggable portaudio
backend.
i have two things:
- - code (API+ implementation) that adds
From: Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me
To: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
On Wed, May 29, 2013, at 09:17 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
i dimly remember some discussion (on LAD, iirc) why having
From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
To: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
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i have two things:
- - code (API+ implementation) that adds support for pluggable
audio/midi backends
- - converted
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On 2013-05-29 17:49, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
- - converted all the existing backends to use the new API
(though they are still linked statically into the Pd-binary)
What did you have to convert?
check the git logs. (or read my answer on does the
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
I checked it on Xubuntu: running Pulseaudio as an audio submixer
through JACK . In Pulseaudio's mixer GUI (which is the default mixer
in Xubuntu's panel), JACK can be selected as destination for an
application's audio
From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd-dev@iem.at pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
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I know only one way at the moment: routing Pulseaudio through JACK
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
There's no other combination of frames/period and period/buffer you
can use to get ca. 17-20ms latency without dropouts?
Not on the hardware I'm using. I guess the absolute latency could be
lower on faster hardware, but
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On 2013-05-28 07:08, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Ok, quick restatement of the problem:
How does one get Pd to just run in GNU/Linux for casual/sporadic
use cases? Like 1 fire up Pd to patch an idea with Firefox/music
player/other stuff sitting in the
On Mon, 2013-05-27 at 22:08 -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Ok, quick restatement of the problem:
How does one get Pd to just run in GNU/Linux for casual/sporadic use
cases? Like
1 fire up Pd to patch an idea with Firefox/music player/other stuff
sitting in the background
2 audio from online
From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at
To: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:26 AM
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On 2013-05-28 07:08, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Ok, quick restatement
From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com
To: pd-dev@iem.at
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [PD-dev] jack dbus?
[...]
Personally, I'd appreciate if Pd would support pulseaudio. If Pd covers
many backends, it is easy for package maintainers
Ok, quick restatement of the problem:
How does one get Pd to just run in GNU/Linux for casual/sporadic use cases? Like
1 fire up Pd to patch an idea with Firefox/music player/other stuff sitting in
the background
2 audio from online tutorial while patching in Pd with audio
3 some dude screwing
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