[PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Kevin McCoy
Maybe a little break from technical discussions into aesthetics and context :) http://art.sewanee.edu/mccoy/comparison.jpg From left to right: Situationist International, The Naked City Expanded view of a multiple GOP patch Julie Mehretu, Untitled I originally put this together as a half-joke,

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread jared
Damn man, that's really fricken cool! Keep it up. You said it started as a joke...isn't it amazing how inspiring the sense of humor can be? Especially when it comes at the expense of yourselffantastic! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [PD] how to pack symbols together and eliminate the space?

2007-04-06 Thread Steffen
On 05/04/2007, at 22.52, Roman Haefeli wrote: as i understand IOhannes, there is nothing wrong with [makesymbol] (nor with any other proposed solution). i think, he just wanted to point out that when externals are involved anyway - [makesymbol] from zexy in that specific case - ,

Re: [PD] how to pack symbols together and eliminate the space?

2007-04-06 Thread hard off
..and i have no idea what i'm talking about. just ignore me ;) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Steffen
On 06/04/2007, at 9.04, Kevin McCoy wrote: http://art.sewanee.edu/mccoy/comparison.jpg From left to right: Situationist International, The Naked City Expanded view of a multiple GOP patch Julie Mehretu, Untitled Very nice! I dig it. Are there any articles/literature on this sort of

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread hard off
i made a poo : ) (poo attached) poo.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] HID Crashing

2007-04-06 Thread Clifford Dunn
Hello list. I'm relatively new to PD and I'm trying to see how HID works in it. I'm using the most recent version of PD-Extended, the preference files are fine, and I'm running OS X 10.4.8 on a PPC Powerbook. I can't seem to get [hid] to work. I can create the [hid] object and it seems to be

Re: [PD] how to pack symbols together and eliminate the space?

2007-04-06 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Kevin McCoy hat gesagt: // Kevin McCoy wrote: And thanks everyone else - when I have a minute I am going to finish the patch :) NOW if I could only get it to stay the same size as the GOP bounds.. a big creation argument makes the object box really long! In the latest stable version

Re: [PD] HID Crashing

2007-04-06 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Clifford, I've seen this problem on OS X a lot in my workshops. [hid] works fine, but something in the help file crashes it. Has to do with one of the messages in the help patch causing [hid] to try to open one of the built-in Mac HID devices (trackpad, keyboard, etc), which it doesn't

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Steffen
On 06/04/2007, at 13.13, hard off wrote: i made a poo : ) and a tom hanks drawing. I forgot to mention - the graphical lingo that has emerged in the emails repesenting the graphical elements. [obj], [msg(, [numberbox\. - the graphics that are made in Pd for example for the icon and the

[PD] re-animate PD - Stammtisch Berlin ??

2007-04-06 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
I was wondering if anyone based in Berlin is interested in re-animate some kind of unofficial PD-Stammtisch/Meeting. Let me know ;-) Let us meet ;-) Luigi ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] Masking Geos in gem help

2007-04-06 Thread nosehair911
I figured it out I think. The problem was that the example used in the gem examples was clearing the color buffer and the depth buffer so no other object could exist. What I did was define the colormask to 0 for stencil and 1 for not stencil that way the color and depth buffer did not have

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread padawan12
I really like that Kevin. Is there any connection between the parts of the triptych other than a purely aesthetic one (which works very well imho)? Here's a piece shown in gallery for the Edinburgh Scienece Festival last year as part of the Ensight project. http://www.ensight.org.uk/index.php

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Steffen
On 07/04/2007, at 5.03, padawan12 wrote: I really like that Kevin. Is there any connection between the parts of the triptych other than a purely aesthetic one (which works very well imho)? I can't answer for Kevin, of cause. But since the name of the Situationist work is The Naked City and

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: I find a lot of complex messy patches tremendously beautiful. Also watch out for Nicola Unger's PD Bear: http://www.starwingartists.com/bearthewarlord/files/pdbear.html Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Steffen
On 06/04/2007, at 18.01, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: I find a lot of complex messy patches tremendously beautiful. Also watch out for Nicola Unger's PD Bear: http://www.starwingartists.com/bearthewarlord/files/pdbear.html Thanks Frank!

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread marius schebella
I make one every day. it is still hot. (attached) marius. hard off wrote: i made a poo : ) (poo attached) ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management

Re: [PD] advcam

2007-04-06 Thread marius schebella
what about ctrl? marius. patrick wrote: hi marius! the alt key on my window manager (icewm - linux) is to move the window. of course i can change it, but maybe another key would do the job? pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Kevin McCoy
I really like that Kevin. Is there any connection between the parts of the triptych other than a purely aesthetic one (which works very well imho)? This is what I am suspecting... I sense that there is some kind of sensibility about interconnectedness, complexity, and maybe even

Re: [PD] advcam

2007-04-06 Thread patrick
hi marius! the alt key on my window manager (icewm - linux) is to move the window. of course i can change it, but maybe another key would do the job? pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] advcam

2007-04-06 Thread patrick
ctrl is fine for me, but i don't know about gnome, kde and other. maybe a simple letter like z is safer? i have to turn on hid with a toggle to have some output. i think the [route device] - [bang] - [delay 0] - [1, debug 0] is not working on linux. pat - Original Message - From:

[PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here it is another cool example of intriguing mess in a PD patch (ring'o'ding_in_my_brain by cabowitz) http://www.cabowitz.com/ring.pd (also here http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-829-ring-ding) Yes, looks like one of the most intriguing aspects of PD patch programming is the almost

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Phil Stone
I'm in a band called The Hub, and we've been exploring this very idea for over twenty years. If you are interested in emergent behavior of networks, particularly in a musical manifestation, take a look -- and listen, there's some free audio there -- at http://hub.artifact.com . Great

Re: [PD] HID Crashing

2007-04-06 Thread Clifford Dunn
Thanks Derek, Doing this did help me open the help file. However, a new can of worms has opened from this. I can't seem to find much helpful information about the [hid] object in the helpfile. In fact, the only time the [hid] object appears in this patch it doesn't have any inlets or outlets.

Re: [PD] rme cards with mbp

2007-04-06 Thread Tim Blechmann
when i asked them about it at the end of the last year, the answer was, that they first test an express-card to cardbus adapter ... i would guess they haven't been too successful with these adapters, if they are planning to do their own express-card now ... tim On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 19:58

[PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Greg Pond
Kevin, These ideas are interesting. I would also look at the chess career of Marcel Duchamp as a possible corollary that predates our technologies. I think it addresses similar ideas: Bounce these quotes by Duchamp off Debord, Deleuze and Guattari- also don't forget Bourriaud: I am still a

Re: [PD] HID Crashing

2007-04-06 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I have also been having HID problems lately on OSX Tiger w/ the latest test build of extended. It crashes when trying to open higher device numbers. Also, only the analog d-pad for my game pad works, but not the buttons. The game pad works with snes9x for gaming, so it must be HID. It used to

Re: [PD] [not really OT] a contemporary sensibility?

2007-04-06 Thread Chris McCormick
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 12:07:15PM -0500, Kevin McCoy wrote: even more interesting when we think about the glitch... or imagine a psychogeography of a digital network... I liked that idea of listening to the linux kernel! http://peep.sourceforge.net/intro.html