[PD] OT: Quechup

2007-09-09 Thread Dafydd Hughes
Hi folks Carlos - it looks like you got screwed by Quechup. For those of you who don't know about it: I've only read about it - not experienced it first hand, but it seems that this social networking site, as soon as you join, sends an invitation (from you!) to your entire address book without

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] ask for cvs access

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we have namespace prefixes for that, no? i don't trust namespaces and that everybody knows how to use it correctly And namespaces don't really work well for binary objects (externals) yet. anyway I'll think to a more

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Luigi Rensinghoff hat gesagt: // Luigi Rensinghoff wrote: i was curious to check out that synth, but i get this error. the screenshot i from ubuntu, but it was the same on OS X. You can fix this by adding your polyWaveSynth directory to your pd-path or copy over poly*.pd to that

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Hi Phil~ Perhaps you could repackage the polyWaveSynth with the required abstractions included, since they are very small in size to make much of a difference? This might eliminate much of the frustration that seems to be plaguing some people. ~Kyle On 9/9/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Phil Stone
Hi Kyle, I thought of doing that, but reconsidered because it seems like it might lead to versioning problems, namespace clashes, multiple copies of objects and possibly, dogs and cats sleeping together. Or am I over-thinking it? Phil Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Hi Phil~ Perhaps you could

Re: [PD] small polyWaveSynth issue; udpdate available

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: I am beginning to see that it might not be a good idea to expose all those receives, even if the likelihood of name-collision is small. If all patches were designed this way, there would be a great many possible collisions, so the

[PD] gem : using texture for vertex position

2007-09-09 Thread cyrille henry
hello, i'm tring to do more physics on the GPU, and i'm facing some problems. simulation results can be compute on texture (just like the wave example i send month ago), so now i'd like to use this texture to move vertex. if i acces to a texture with a vertex shader just like on a fragment

Re: [PD] Rotary controllers in PD?

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Ken Restivo hat gesagt: // Ken Restivo wrote: 2's complement from 64/Relative (Binary Offset) 2's Complement from 0 / relative (2's Complement) Sign Magnitude / Relative (Signed Bit) Sign Magnitude / Relative (Signed Bit 2) Single Value

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: I thought of doing that, but reconsidered because it seems like it might lead to versioning problems, namespace clashes, multiple copies of objects and possibly, dogs and cats sleeping together. I've found an easier solution: add [declare

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Phil Stone
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: I thought of doing that, but reconsidered because it seems like it might lead to versioning problems, namespace clashes, multiple copies of objects and possibly, dogs and cats sleeping together. I've found

[PD] Multitouch lowtech

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, oki, it was on boing so everyone here has already seen it, but still, that's a mighty impressive lowtech solution to the multitouch interface hype: http://blog.medallia.com/2007/06/dyesight.html Shouldn't this Just Work(tm) with Gem's [pix_multiblob]? Ciao -- Frank Barknecht

Re: [PD] Multitouch lowtech

2007-09-09 Thread Dafydd Hughes
really hope so! On 9/9/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, oki, it was on boing so everyone here has already seen it, but still, that's a mighty impressive lowtech solution to the multitouch interface hype: http://blog.medallia.com/2007/06/dyesight.html Shouldn't this Just

Re: [PD] [GEM-dev] gem : using texture for vertex position

2007-09-09 Thread chris clepper
You are most likely turning on software rendering by accessing the texture in the vertex shader. Textures are uploaded as 8 bit per component which is the standard for images and video. Changing this to 32 bit floats is extremely inefficient. There might be a way to specify the GPU storage to be

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] ask for cvs access

2007-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hat gesagt: // [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we have namespace prefixes for that, no? i don't trust namespaces and that everybody knows how to use it correctly And namespaces don't really work well for binary

[PD] reminder for tuesday

2007-09-09 Thread marius schebella
hi, could someone repeat when and where the chat session for pd documentation will be on tuesday? thanks, marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Phil~ I don't think it would cause problems if you keep them in a subdirectory and addressed the abstractions with abs/foobar.pd type naming. Does Pd search the patch's folder first for all non-native objects before parsing the path? Also, this will all become resolved once Pd-extended moves

Re: [PD] Multitouch lowtech

2007-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Nifty, but looks limited. The actual technique used by Jeff Han's group is not that complicated either. You just need good plexiglass and a source of even lighting to shine down the edge of it. Then point a webcam at it. .hc On Sep 9, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo,

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] ask for cvs access

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: AFAIK, they work well for Pd objects and binary objects. The only difference I know of is that with binaries, if you load and object with the namespace prefix, then it will also claim the class name without the

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: That requires 40.0, right? Also, there doesn't seem to be a help patch for [declare] -- I've seen it mentioned here on the list, but is it documented anywhere? It looks like it would add [polyWaveSynth]s folder to PD's path -- but how

Re: [PD] CONVENTION /// was Re: some images...

2007-09-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007, Alexandre Quessy wrote: I enjoyed Miller's talk about Pd being already very interesting, and not needing too much changes in the future, but I still think that some things could be changed for the better, regarding symbols, threads, docs, Gem, libraries, etc. Miller's

Re: [PD] [Pd] Building OSCx on 64-bit Debian

2007-09-09 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On 9/8/07, Ken Restivo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 06:48:52PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: Hi. I acquired a p5 glove, and the Pd interface I found for it relies on OSCx. I've been trying to build it, having added -fPIC

[PD] Simple PD GUI enhancement - like Max Toolbox

2007-09-09 Thread Batuhan Bozkurt
Hello, I've made the switch from Max/MSP to PD 1-1.5 years ago right before I switched my OS to linux and I'm loving almost every moment of it. But there is only one thing I got used to while I was using Max and after all those months of PD programming, I still miss that feature that was made

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Phil Stone
Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Phil~ I don't think it would cause problems if you keep them in a subdirectory and addressed the abstractions with abs/foobar.pd type naming. OK, I think it's starting to sink in. I can keep private abstraction libraries inside my abstraction. Another advantage to

Re: [PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input

2007-09-09 Thread Batuhan Bozkurt
mami music wrote: thanks batuhan well latency is not an issue at this point. I would be glad if you could help me out in setting the ogg-icecast server. im all ears thanks daniel Daniel, sorry for the late response. I've been trying to get it to run again so I can show you how to do

Re: [PD] (OT) periodic jack xruns in every 20 minutes

2007-09-09 Thread Batuhan Bozkurt
Kevin McCoy wrote: If I made a guess I would check disks spinning up/down, power management settings, things of that nature which may not necessarily show in the CPU... but this is a really uneducated guess. Like Roman said though, I would also be glad to only have xruns every 20

Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday

2007-09-09 Thread Georg Holzmann
marius schebella schrieb: hi, could someone repeat when and where the chat session for pd documentation will be on tuesday? I think 18:00 UTC ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] CONVENTION /// was Re: some images...

2007-09-09 Thread marius schebella
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I think that the most important thing Pd needs at the moment is to get away from sedimentary programming (that is, deposit more code on top of the existing code) and metamorphic programming (applying intense peer pressure on the sediment makes it harder), if you

Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday

2007-09-09 Thread Steffen
On 09/09/2007, at 19.33, marius schebella wrote: could someone repeat when and where the chat session for pd documentation will be on tuesday? It's nice to know that such meeting/chat has been meaning to happen. - I've not come across it on this list, hence i guess it's been fostered at

[PD] paths and patches [was: Re: polyWaveSynth issue]

2007-09-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Phil Stone hat gesagt: // Phil Stone wrote: Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Does Pd search the patch's folder first for all non-native objects before parsing the path? I was wondering that same thing. If not, this method wouldn't work very consistently. Pd does search the current

Re: [PD] Rotary controllers in PD?

2007-09-09 Thread Ken Restivo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 12:52:54PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Ken Restivo hat gesagt: // Ken Restivo wrote: 2's complement from 64/Relative (Binary Offset) 2's Complement from 0 / relative (2's Complement) Sign

Re: [PD] Font problem? Spaces replaced by boxes

2007-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 7, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Spencer Russell wrote: On 9/7/07, jasch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've had the same issue on ubuntu with extended (rev ?, i'd have to go have alook): screenshot here: www.jasch.ch/dl/ds_davos_soundscape/Screenshot.png /*j Yup, that's just what I'm seeing,

Re: [PD] paths and patches [was: Re: polyWaveSynth issue]

2007-09-09 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Ok, thanks for clearing that up Frank! It's a bit of a tangle, but you gave a nice explanation. Messing with paths can be a real deterrence for people just looking to briefly demo a patch. It looks like the easiest solution for Phil is definitely to include these abs in a subdirectory then.

Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday

2007-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 9, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Steffen wrote: On 09/09/2007, at 19.33, marius schebella wrote: could someone repeat when and where the chat session for pd documentation will be on tuesday? It's nice to know that such meeting/chat has been meaning to happen. - I've not come across it on this

Re: [PD] Simple PD GUI enhancement - like Max Toolbox

2007-09-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You'll want to check out Desire Data, (it's alpha though). Lots of great ideas in it. .hc On Sep 9, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote: Hello, I've made the switch from Max/MSP to PD 1-1.5 years ago right before I switched my OS to linux and I'm loving almost every moment of it. But

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread pat
Kyle Klipowicz a écrit : Until then, we just can't really expect the same crowd that Pd-extended is marketed for to know much about cvs and setting up the paths and stuff. It's better to take the high road and avoid elitist isolationism and make things easy as possible for new users to dive

Re: [PD] CONVENTION /// was Re: some images...

2007-09-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, marius schebella wrote: I think that is true not only for code, but also for patches. I don't make a distinction between patches and real code. atm automatic testing is still very complicated to do (at least I would not know how to write it). but testing could also be

Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday

2007-09-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Next meeting is Tuesday, Sept. 11th * 10.00 Pacific Time * 13.00 Eastern Time * 18.00 UTC (GMT) * 19.00 Central European * 20.00 Eastern European Either you mean BST (British Summer Time) instead of UTC, or you mean that

Re: [PD] Simple PD GUI enhancement - like Max Toolbox

2007-09-09 Thread pat
Batuhan Bozkurt a écrit : Hello, I've made the switch from Max/MSP to PD 1-1.5 years ago right before I switched my OS to linux and I'm loving almost every moment of it. But there is only one thing I got used to while I was using Max and after all those months of PD programming, I still

Re: [PD] [Pd] Building OSCx on 64-bit Debian

2007-09-09 Thread Martin Peach
Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 9/8/07, *Ken Restivo* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 06:48:52PM -0400, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: Hi. I acquired a p5 glove, and the Pd interface I found for it

Re: [PD] pd-convention papers

2007-09-09 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:43:06 +0200 Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/08/2007, at 15.13, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: The papers for the convention are online at : http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/ Thanks! It's nice to be able to read them, even though one weren't there. Two

Re: [PD] pd-convention papers

2007-09-09 Thread Alexandre Castonguay
Hello Andy, Please send it to me and I'll add it at once :-). Merci, Alexandre On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:43:06 +0200 Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/08/2007, at 15.13, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: The papers for the convention are online at : http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/

Re: [PD] (OT) periodic jack xruns in every 20 minutes

2007-09-09 Thread Derek Holzer
Entirely possible that it was too long ago... I tangled with these issues in 2002-3... d. Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: Check the linux-audio-user list archives regarding the filesystem you use with JACK. I recall that ext3 gives huge

Re: [PD] Multitouch lowtech

2007-09-09 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Now I'm just waiting for Kim to introduce it over on .microsound, without mentioning boingboing. ;-) ~Kyle On 9/9/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, oki, it was on boing so everyone here has already seen it, but still, that's a mighty impressive lowtech solution to the

Re: [PD] pd-convention papers

2007-09-09 Thread Alexandre Castonguay
Hi all, Andy Farnell's paper is now online: http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/PDCON-2007-FARNELL.pdf A bientot, Alexandre On Sunday 09 September 2007 20:34:00 Alexandre Castonguay wrote: Hello Andy, Please send it to me and I'll add it at once :-). Merci, Alexandre On Mon, 3 Sep

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Yes, I can understand how that might be frustrating. That's why I really enjoy keeping my personal settings in the .pdrc file on OS X or Linux. With windows, this isn't an option, but a .bat file works well. I definitely agree that the settings

Re: [PD] pd-convention papers

2007-09-09 Thread Andy Farnell
Thanks very much Alexandre. Andy On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 21:59:17 -0400 (EDT) Alexandre Castonguay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Andy Farnell's paper is now online: http://artengine.ca/~catalogue-pd/PDCON-2007-FARNELL.pdf A bientot, Alexandre On Sunday 09 September 2007

Re: [PD] [Pd] Building OSCx on 64-bit Debian

2007-09-09 Thread Charles Henry
Something jumps out at me: ../libOSC/libOSC.a this should be -L../libOSC -lOSC (that's a little-L, on the second one there) I can't remember... what's the name of that command you use to list the libraries that a binary links to? (I'm sure I've used it once before, but not everyday :) On

Re: [PD] Simple PD GUI enhancement - like Max Toolbox

2007-09-09 Thread Batuhan Bozkurt
pat wrote: Batuhan Bozkurt a écrit : Hello, I've made the switch from Max/MSP to PD 1-1.5 years ago right before I switched my OS to linux and I'm loving almost every moment of it. But there is only one thing I got used to while I was using Max and after all those months of PD

Re: [PD] my first extension, FINISHED

2007-09-09 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 09:04:43PM +0200, Steffen wrote: This relates to your question. There is a tendency in thinking that objects that can be build by using pure Pd object are better kept build in pure Pd objects rather then coded as an external. That said, it's not a universal truth.

Re: [PD] polyWaveSynth issue

2007-09-09 Thread Patrice Colet
Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Sun, 9 Sep 2007, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Yes, I can understand how that might be frustrating. That's why I really enjoy keeping my personal settings in the .pdrc file on OS X or Linux. With windows, this isn't an option, but a .bat file works well. With windows