On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
implying that the phrase Mongolian hordes represents a historically
valid viewpoint is perpetuating a western-biased (racist) falsehood.
horde is not a viewpoint. It's a noun. It means political subdivision
of a (central asian) nomadic people. It
Dear All,
Some good news for the computer music world and beyond!
Sorry for cross-posting...
Ricardo
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Enrique Erne wrote:
Searching for counter works pretty well (unfortunately, Go is the
default when you hit enter):
i see. what does Go mean?
there are two submit buttons underneath the search input field. Go directly
displays the site with the highest ranking, like googles i'm feeling
Basically, you'd be the lead on that site. The sysop role means you
have admin privileges over the whole site, and can make others sysops.
You can share that role with as many people as you want, and be as
involved as you want.. I am hoping that pdpedia will develop into
related, autonomous
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
i cannot repproduce this (attached patch works fine for me)
argh, it's too early in the morning
fmarsd.
IOhannes
#N canvas 0 0 565 394 10;
#N canvas 671 77 450 300 sub 0;
#X obj 126 146 vu 15 120 empty empty -1 -8 0 8 -66577 -1 1 0;
#X coords 0 -1 1 1 100 200
Jerome Tuncer wrote:
Hi Yves/list,
I already noticed this behaviour with other GUI stuff - namely core
pd/IEM's [vu]).
i cannot repproduce this (attached patch works fine for me)
there seems to be a problem with pd not displaying an object in gop-mode
at all, if one (however small)
Hallo,
Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
I'm a bit torn on this. I actually like the concept, but you're right,
like all good things that make life easy they tend to erode discipline
and structure. The patch messy and sweep it all under the rug
philosophy is probably very
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 02:18:00AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
implying that the phrase Mongolian hordes represents a historically
valid viewpoint is perpetuating a western-biased (racist) falsehood.
horde is not a viewpoint. It's a noun. It
Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
Hi Damien,
My lawd yes! I sent them an email about this same thing and never
received a response.
I have a system I've been working on based on Memento that exposes all
state-savable parameters for assignment to a midi-controller,
automatically... but I still
While I agree very much with both Kevin and Frank, quoted below, i
think this debate is healthy, as it would be foolish not to look
for new ideas. That many new ideas will be discarded since they rime
an awful lot with Fisher Price is another matter.
On 10/10/2007, at 3.27, Kevin McCoy
Tim,
... verkocht.
Je zal dat goed doen. Daar geloof ik in. :D
Al weet ik maar half wat die pdpedia inhoudt. Ik zal toch eens vanaf de
eerste pdpedia mailing moeten lezen.
gegroet,
yorick
2007/10/10, tim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Basically, you'd be the lead on that site. The sysop role means
On 10/10/07, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
whilst there is no similar widespread cliche for western invaders in our
culture is testament to this fact.
I believe that colonialism and imperialism are widespread words,
concepts and
I had for a long time similar struggles related to missing objects in
pd-extended.
To use the colon as separator does not seem to work on Windows - which
makes sense since paths usually contain a colon as well.
And if I want to use all libs in extended I have to list 51 paths since
that is the
Oded Ben-Tal wrote:
It seems my Gem is missing [yuv2rgb] (and rgb2yuv ).
A bit of history: I'm using pd0.39-extended from at.or.at, but that
version of Gem had problems (see previous exchanges for the details) I
replaced the pd.gem_drawin file from a more recent CVS version and that
fixed
Le mercredi 10 octobre 2007 à 02:18 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
implying that the phrase Mongolian hordes represents a historically
valid viewpoint is perpetuating a western-biased (racist) falsehood.
horde is not a viewpoint. It's a
Hallo,
Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
I'm a bit torn on this. I actually like the concept, but you're right,
like all good things that make life easy they tend to erode discipline
and structure. The patch messy and sweep it all under the rug
philosophy is probably very
It seems my Gem is missing [yuv2rgb] (and rgb2yuv ).
A bit of history: I'm using pd0.39-extended from at.or.at, but that
version of Gem had problems (see previous exchanges for the details) I
replaced the pd.gem_drawin file from a more recent CVS version and that
fixed many problems. I am
hi,
in the colorgrid case, only last version (from last week) is working
correctly in GOP.
you can dowload it here .
http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/pd/pdvjtools/src/colorgrid/colorgrid-0.5.tar.gz
i hope it will be in the extended soon ...
El dc 10 de 10 del 2007 a les 09:50 +0200, en/na
Hi Kevin,
it's a nice idea, since dragging is the thing that gives you
carpal-tunnel syndrome the worst! Very un-ergonomic motion, if ever one
was invented my only way around it is to patch with a Wacom tablet.
I'd support this as a feature request.
best,
d.
Kevin McCoy wrote:
Hi list,
these are now abstractions, you have to add the path were the Gem.pd_darwin
lives to pd's search paths.
the path is usually path-to-pd/extra/Gem/
Two quesion than:
1) as far as I could tell [rgb2hsv] and [rgb2yuv] exist in the same
directory. and while gem finds the former it doesn't find
Oded Ben-Tal wrote:
1) as far as I could tell [rgb2hsv] and [rgb2yuv] exist in the same
directory. and while gem finds the former it doesn't find the latter.
Unless there is another version of [rgb2hsv] in the linrary as an object
and not an abstraction?
this might be the case: afaik
Wikipedia FR uses ébauche for stub and Modèle for template:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:%C3%89bauche
Let's keep ébauche then.
And infobox seems to be a universal term in Wikipedia:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox
Well, in plain French, it would rather
this might be the case: afaik [rgb2hsv] is also part of markEx (which used to
be part of Gem but is no more; only the hsv-rgb functions have stayed as
abstractions)
do you have other markEx objects like [tripleLine]?
Yes. that explains things
thanks
Oded
Thanks guies, thanks Lluis,
I'm not using extended and I couldn't remember how to only compile
[colorgrid] from cvs' sources... I'm trying this new version as soon as
I get home.
++
Jé
Lluis Gómez i Bigordà a écrit :
hi,
in the colorgrid case, only last version (from last week) is
hi everybody
same here, would love to have it too...
it is also complicated to connect object that are far away, and it is not
always wise to use s~ and r~
greets
n.
On 10/10/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kevin,
it's a nice idea, since dragging is the thing that gives you
(tried to send this an hour ago, but seems like it didn't get
through. sorry if you receive it twice)
Hi Tim all!
my 50c on the Duch translations you proposed..
$arguments = argumenten;
maybe parameters is better here. if i hear argumenten in Dutch i
rather think of arguments like in a
I haven't been able to reproduce this problem. All of the libraries
should be loaded by default. This is how it worked for me on the two
WinXP machines I've tested on.
Perhaps there is something stuck in the registry that is causing
problems. Try deleting the Pd registry settings.
This is the stuff that I think is much more interesting, it's the
stuff that doesn't make for sexy videos, but actually improves your
life:
http://www.cycling74.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2007/9/28/105551/882
Let me give you just one example of what I'm talking about. In Max
4.x there was
I don't understand people complaining about additional features. you
don't have to use it, if you don't want. but for other people it makes
sense to layout their interface independently from their code.
design is so important for a graphical user interface!
I heard this so often I can't share my
hey
On 10/10/07, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?
not all of us do!
there are still some of us on the lunatic fringe although you won't
hear about any of it in the corporate media. and although the anti-war
movement keeps
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Enrique Erne wrote:
there are two submit buttons underneath the search input field. Go directly
displays the site with the highest ranking, like googles i'm feeling lucky.
ah thanks; i equally never understood the meaning of the i'm feeling
lucky
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, john saylor wrote:
On 10/10/07, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?
not all of us do!
there are still some of us on the lunatic fringe
No, I don't mean lunatic fringe. I mean especially parties that
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
I'm not sure which culture is our culture,
In this context, it would be all the west-european, canadian, australian,
nz, usa, ... mostly that.
It also seems to me that hacker culture uses lots of terms
tongue-in-cheek, and that a reference to
On Oct 10, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Wikipedia FR uses ébauche for stub and Modèle for template:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:%C3%89bauche
Let's keep ébauche then.
And infobox seems to be a universal term in Wikipedia:
Yeah, it would be nice to have...
.hc
On Oct 10, 2007, at 8:25 AM, Nikola Jeremic wrote:
hi everybody
same here, would love to have it too...
it is also complicated to connect object that are far away, and it
is not always wise to use s~ and r~
greets
n.
On 10/10/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL
On Oct 9, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Enrique Erne wrote:
Searching for counter works pretty well (unfortunately, Go is
the
default when you hit enter):
i see. what does Go mean?
there are two submit buttons underneath the search input field.
Go directly
displays the site with the highest
Pd-extended is using the latest CVS files. Sounds like a bug, please
add it to the tracker.
.hc
On Oct 8, 2007, at 12:40 PM, marius schebella wrote:
I just found a working version at http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.91
the version gem-CVS20070605-OSX-i686-bin-doc.tar.gz
strange, the
The one part of presentation that I was intrigued by is the idea of
separating the interface from the implementation. I think it's
interesting to explore the idea, I just think that having the only
connection be that little fade effect when switching is not really a
strong enough
Hmm, that shouldn't be too hard to fix, I think... could you file a
bug report in the tracker?
http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker
Thanks,
.hc
On Oct 9, 2007, at 9:48 PM, Myo wrote:
Hello everyone,
sorry that you have to hear from me again so soon, but I uncovered
something funky when
On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:01 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Oded Ben-Tal wrote:
It seems my Gem is missing [yuv2rgb] (and rgb2yuv ).
A bit of history: I'm using pd0.39-extended from at.or.at, but that
version of Gem had problems (see previous exchanges for the
details) I
replaced the
On Oct 9, 2007, at 12:57 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Oct 8, 2007, at 6:00 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
and how can i find the different counters?
Searching for counter works pretty well (unfortunately, Go is
the default when you hit enter):
i see.
The current default builds are for G4s and newer, since Altivec
support can make a really big difference. I think I can make a G3
build of the final release.
Or if you want to try the build, trying getting the pd-extended-
release sources via rsync:
but then i need to compile it on the mac ...
what about the latest PD release that supported G3 architecture? I could
probably use that, i just need it for small simple tests.
enrike
Hans-Christoph Steiner(e)k dio:
The current default builds are for G4s and newer, since Altivec support
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Americans today make ironic references to the Axis of Evil and the
war on terror and homeland security all the time. It doesn't mean
they buy it, even if the media makes it seem that way.
Yeah but why do they still vote for one of the two big parties?
why? I
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Actually, [import Gem] won't work since it'll find the Gem.pd_darwin
which is ok, [hsv2rgb] is supposed to sit in the same directory as
Gem.pd_darwin;
ah i remember that [import] doesn't like that...
first. I don't think it really works to have a Gem.pd_* and
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
It also seems to me that hacker culture uses lots of terms
tongue-in-cheek, and that a reference to Mongolian hordes may even be, in
some folks' minds, a jab at the Westerners who coined the term.
Man. I just said. Mongolian
I tested your patch here on an Intel Mac and it works like I think it should
work. Two of the layers are partially transparent based on the individual R
G and B values. Can you post a screen capture of the working and
non-working output?
On 10/8/07, Oded Ben-Tal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
Hi Kristof,
(tried to send this an hour ago, but seems like it didn't get through.
sorry if you receive it twice)
I have this too with pd-list, sometimes it takes more than an hour for
my mail to appear.
$arguments = argumenten;
maybe parameters is better here. if i hear argumenten in
hi
tim wrote:
Hi Kristof,
(tried to send this an hour ago, but seems like it didn't get through.
sorry if you receive it twice)
I have this too with pd-list, sometimes it takes more than an hour for
my mail to appear.
hey guys, i hope you are aware that a mailing-list is an
which is ok, [hsv2rgb] is supposed to sit in the same directory as
Gem.pd_darwin;
ah i remember that [import] doesn't like that...
Actually Gem.pd_darwin got installed in
{..}/Resources/extra
while the hsv2rgb.pd file was installed at:
{..}/Resources/extra/Gem/
so they aren't in the same
*Pure Dated, Sensors and Actuators - 20 hour *
This module proposes an initiation into the Pure use of the language Dated,
finalized(worked out) by an artists' international community developers, at
instigation of Miller Puckette (also at the origin of Max / MSP). The
flexibility of this language
I prefer PD with a small GUI, it's better for CPU and GPU.
Jack
Le 10 oct. 07 à 16:07, marius schebella a écrit :
I don't understand people complaining about additional features. you
don't have to use it, if you don't want. but for other people it makes
sense to layout their interface
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On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 10:34:30PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ola,
i'm sorry to be boring on this list,
but here i read everyday terms as :
'wet dream', 'gang bang' , ..
Women have wet dreams too. It's been studied and confirmed since the
Unfortunately, I don't remember which is it. trying going back thru
the test release. The back links are at the bototm of the page:
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
It might be pretty old...
.hc
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:59 AM, altern wrote:
but then i need to compile it on the mac
On 10/10/2007, at 16.07, marius schebella wrote:
I don't understand people complaining about additional features. you
don't have to use it, if you don't want.
Minimal or to-the-point-ness of an application can be very desirable.
To illustrate I've for the same reasons used EevilWM not
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, Mirko Maier wrote:
i wonder if it's possible to write an abstraction that has a variable
number of inlets or outlets, given as argument.
i've tried it with messages like
;pd-[argument file name] inlet 10 10
and so on, but then you always get asked if you want to discard
A programming environment should encourage people to program in a way
that not only works, but also is clearly legible to people who have
never seen that program before. This makes it much easier to reuse
and maintain code, and that leads to much less duplicated effort.
That means
USB HIDs are usually polled every 8ms to 10ms, which is plenty fast
(have you ever noticed the latency of your mouse pointer or
clicks?). I have not seen any reports of latency caused by [hid],
but I suppose it could be possible.
.hc
On Oct 7, 2007, at 8:30 PM, Warrior Bob wrote:
Hi
Wow, its rounded/bubbly !!!
I just realized the fancy shaded PD icon has open inlets, and closed
outlets, which as far as I know comes from a rendering bug in tk... Not
by design, or maybe I'm wrong...
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Hmm, looks nice, with lots of nifty features. But I
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:18:10 -0400
Chris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example, the British Empire
covered more land than the Mongolian Empire ever did
Yeah Bitches!
... what? :)
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Am 10.10.2007 um 12:24 schrieb Jack:
I prefer PD with a small GUI, it's better for CPU and GPU.
Jack
i wonder why people do things in pd like
$ reducing the number of sliders, toggles and bangs to a minimum, or
$ running two instances of pd for the gui, or writing their gui
themselves in
Ok, I created the NL pdpedia:
http://pdpedia.org/nl/
Tim, you are the emergency contact. I don't really know what that
means, but it seems to be a required field in the setup. Create an
account in the NL wiki, and I'll make it a sysop and bureaucrat.
Feel free to edit it now, when we do
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 10:07 -0400, marius schebella wrote:
I don't understand people complaining about additional features. you
don't have to use it, if you don't want. but for other people it makes
sense to layout their interface independently from their code.
design is so important for a
Hi,
can anybody point me to the right direction here? I tried to compile pd on a
64bit machine with Suse 10.2 but failed.
cheers
Georg
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On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 18:24 +0200, Jack wrote:
I prefer PD with a small GUI, it's better for CPU and GPU.
since when does pd-gui affect gpu? and what would be bad about using a
most of the time just unused gpu power for a gui?
i noticed, that cpu based guis in many linux audio programms are the
Post the errors, and more info.
.hc
On Oct 10, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Boenn G (CCI) wrote:
Hi,
can anybody point me to the right direction here? I tried to
compile pd on a 64bit machine with Suse 10.2 but failed.
cheers
Georg
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with the level of virtuosity you also want to demand new levels of
requirements. it is not about displaying a visualization of the
programming flow or readability of code, it is only about efficiency and
user interaction.
for other situations than performance or user interface, this feature is
Hallo,
Luke Iannini (pd) hat gesagt: // Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
On 10/7/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Weird in that you'd need [namecanvas] and it's basically not useable,
because connections made to dynamically created xlets in the parent
patch don't survive saving.
Hallo,
Boenn G (CCI) hat gesagt: // Boenn G (CCI) wrote:
can anybody point me to the right direction here? I tried to compile
pd on a 64bit machine with Suse 10.2 but failed.
A right direction would be to tell us more about how you failed? Some
error messages etc. Without that, we can only
Dear Santa-Claus,
you have regaled to my neighbor a new release of max. You know, I'm a bad
kid and use linux, but in last time I try to be better person. Ok, bad kid
can't have a very stable software is a nature law but could I to have a new
PD. That is my list of new derired features:
-A gui
I have some panoramic video that I want to use to texture a hemisphere
[or rather, the bottom half of a sphere].
I cannot simply texture the sphere with the video because the warping
is not correct.. it seems that I need some sort of non-rectangular
warping of the image before I texture the
wow, only a few pages before the inevitable usa bashing.
BORING.
last i checked the primary developer of pd was an american, yes?
marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Americans today make ironic references to the Axis of Evil and the
war on
Since i don't like a program to educate me, but i rather like to use a
program to do things that i want, the new Max features will help with that.
The pd-based vibrez gui has also always separated the patcher logic from
the gui, and i'm already curious to compare the two systems.
To my mind it
I just found the same thing, could not resolve the dependency
Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmm, that shouldn't be too hard to fix, I think... could you file a
bug report in the tracker?
http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker
Thanks,
.hc
On Oct 9, 2007, at
On 10/10/07, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Chuckk Hubbard wrote:
I'm not sure which culture is our culture,
In this context, it would be all the west-european, canadian, australian,
nz, usa, ... mostly that.
That sounds more like hundreds of cultures,
just noticed...a bouchard flaming an american for his peoples Genocide?
Where were your ancestors when the french starved the iroquois into peace in
new france man?
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From: eric labelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10 oct. 2007 18:50
Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] Re:
shouldn't have singled anyone out like that...my apologies it's just this
whole nonesense is getting to me after the x number of days it has lasted
and gone nowhere.
2007/10/10, eric labelle [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
just noticed...a bouchard flaming an american for his peoples Genocide?
Where were
installation powered by Pd,
in case, you're in Berlin (I can't be there, sorry).
marius.
PARTICLES OF INTEREST: TALES FROM THE MATTER MARKET
(a b.a.n.g lab project)
by
Ricardo Dominguez and Diane Ludin (Principal Investigators)
Nina Waisman, Tristan Shone, Caleb Waldorf (Lead Researchers)
I'm from the statesi've spent a lot of time overseasi find it
hilarious that, on several different occasions, I've been in
conversations with Europeans who would talk bad about the USthen,
after talking shit for an hour, they always end the conversation with,
yeah, I'm going to the US
jared wrote:
if its so fucking
bad why would you want to visit?
Some people have the hope, the true situation would not be so depressing.
.but who
is worse: the Idiot, or the guy who follows the idiot?
except for romania, there are not so many countries in the world, who
follow
jared wrote:
if its so fucking
bad why would you want to visit?
Some people have the hope, the true situation would not be so
depressing.
Hope? Please. The conversations that I was talking about,
these people weren't talking about 'hope'...they were flat out trashing
the
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, eric labelle wrote:
just noticed...a bouchard flaming an american for his peoples Genocide?
Where were your ancestors when the french starved the iroquois into peace in
new france man?
No, this is not what I have written. Please read emails carefully, and
look at who
hi all
it seems, that some discussions are not only off-topic pd-wise, but even
off-topic thread-wise (it started with sexism and is now somewhere
around the perception of the american people in the world and first
nation issues).
i don't see, how such discussions could come to an end, that is
Thank you Peter! This is a great workaround and I will use it in the
meantime. In fact it is almost nicer than all that clicking.
cheers!!
km
On 10/10/07, Peter Plessas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For anyone on Linux, there is a nice workaround using your capslock-key
as a mouse button as
I am creating an abstraction to ease the communication with an UBW (USB Bit
Wacker: http://greta.dhs.org/UBW/index.html).
The abstraction uses comport to communicate with the device. It is
considered as USB modem by the system. See the tail of dmesg when the device
is plugged in to my Ubuntu
which beer?
...
marius.
Roman Haefeli wrote:
hi all
it seems, that some discussions are not only off-topic pd-wise, but even
off-topic thread-wise (it started with sexism and is now somewhere
around the perception of the american people in the world and first
nation issues).
i don't see,
On 10/10/07, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that is why i
propose, that the next one, who continues this certain thread, pays for
a round of beer.
As loing as it is not the crap beer we make in America! ;)
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a nice stout for mefirst round is on me!!!
From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: pd-list@iem.at
Subject: Re: [PD] about pd
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:56:39 -0400
which beer?
...
marius.
Roman Haefeli wrote:
hi all
it seems, that some discussions are not
As loing as it is not the crap beer we make in America! ;)
I know what you mean... I could go for a nice Stella Artois or a
Peroni... or a dozen Harboes...
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Thomas O Fredericks wrote:
I am creating an abstraction to ease the communication with an UBW
(USB Bit Wacker: http://greta.dhs.org/UBW/index.html
http://greta.dhs.org/UBW/index.html).
The abstraction uses comport to communicate with the device. It is
considered as USB modem by the
I'll drink to that. Everyone raise a glass to death of the sexism thread.
May it never be spoken of again.
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:20:53 -0500
Jared Regan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a nice stout for mefirst round is on me!!!
From: marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andy Farnell wrote:
I'll drink to that. Everyone raise a glass to death of the sexism thread.
May it never be spoken of again.
well then peace. I raise a bottle of becks to roman the great thread slayer.
marius.
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Any other comments on this translation? I'll do the import this
weekend, if not. :D
.hc
On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:07 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
(1st mail went to the wrong list)
Portuguese:
(checked by a programmer)
# wikipedia terms
$stub = Esboço;
$template = Template;
$category =
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