Re: [PD] [Pd] Writing subpatch contents, was Re: [Csnd] Writing subpatch contents

2007-11-22 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On Nov 21, 2007 11:28 PM, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 18:36 +0900, hard off wrote: yeah, but what chuck wants to know is WHICH objects are in his subpatch. so...if he puts a slider, 2 number boxes and 3 arrays in a subpatch, he needs something that will

Re: [PD] OT : Ubuntu Studio and 64Studio

2007-11-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: yo, that is the way how linux works, for sure. but from a psychological perspective, it might feel good to make 'tabula rasa'. also do many people tend (me included) to install stuff and install stuff, so that they don't anymore what

Re: [PD] [Pd] Writing subpatch contents, was Re: [Csnd] Writing subpatch contents

2007-11-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chuckk Hubbard hat gesagt: // Chuckk Hubbard wrote: Not sure I understand. I have 8 subpatches, which could as well be 8 abstractions, though I've set up a working system for now. Each of those subpatches is to be a free playground while working on any one piece. Each is for sending

Re: [PD] [Pd] Writing subpatch contents, was Re: [Csnd] Writing subpatch contents

2007-11-22 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On Nov 22, 2007 11:58 AM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, I would indeed use abstractions for this. They can be saved with Ctrl-S, which is easier than your subpatch saving, which seems overcomplicated to me. But of course to each his own. ;) To save all 8 automatically with

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
On Nov 22, 2007 12:33 PM, Chuckk Hubbard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 22, 2007 1:34 AM, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FFT can also be defined to only use real numbers, but the formulas are more complicated and the data layout is slightly irregular. Pd does not support those:

Re: [PD] pdpedia in spanish (castellano)

2007-11-22 Thread Vircy Parker
It's nice to look at a good spanish documentation for pd. I would like to participate in this documentation, do I need any permision for fill an object class definition in the wiki? Would be good to have a list where look at fillled objects, in order to complete the not filled ones. Regards

Re: [PD] pdpedia in spanish (castellano)

2007-11-22 Thread Vircy Parker
Hi Vircy sorry for the delay, i checked your edits and they look good. I did some of my own, based on the documentation, not the english pdpedia although i did read it. are we looking for something like this? http://wiki.puredata.info/es/line Yes! I think that is the idea. Thanks also,

Re: [PD] pdpedia in spanish (castellano)

2007-11-22 Thread raul diaz
Ok Vircy! I have created my account and now I can start to translate some object class definitions. But my point is, would be good to create a space into the wiki in order to listing translated objects and make a better and more efficient work. What do you think about? Saludos. 2007/11/22,

Re: [PD] [pdp_rec~] and record my vj sessions using [pdp_qt]

2007-11-22 Thread Javier Garcia
Jack wrote: You can do something like that (for exemple) : [pdp_qt] | [pdp_contrast] |\ | \ |\ | \ | [pdp_rec~] | [pdp_glx] Thanks Jack, but the problem with [pdp_rec] in this case you tell me, is if i seek the video, the time of the video recorded oscilates. Anyone knows if

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread marius schebella
Hi, in the rfft (as opposite to the fft) the missing dataset is supposed to be 0, that means if you think of a stereo channel as input, the second channel does not contain data/is muted. the missing data it is not related to time or index. the information in both domains (time and frequency) is

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread Georg Holzmann
marius schebella schrieb: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: this is actually cos^2+sin^2=1 in this context, these are not unity vextors, if you square the cosine and sine part you don't get one, but a square of the amplitudes, so it is more cos^2+sin^2=amplitude^2 hm, I don't really understand

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread marius schebella
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: this is actually cos^2+sin^2=1 in this context, these are not unity vextors, if you square the cosine and sine part you don't get one, but a square of the amplitudes, so it is more cos^2+sin^2=amplitude^2 marius. ___

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread marius schebella
hi, 51% here, with mbp 2.33, osx 10.5.1. when I turn off audio I am at 22%. I am using the osx native sound engine (no jack). btw there is no difference if I use sphere or a model of a sphere. marius. cyrille henry wrote: hello, i just made a performance test on osX, using pmpd exemple 22 (i

[PD] Drawing lines in GEM again

2007-11-22 Thread Isidro Gonzalez
--- Isidro Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:44:20 -0800 (PST) From: Isidro Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Drawing lines in GEM To: pd-list@iem.at Hello: To my knowledge, there are two GEM objects capable to draw a polygon with lines: 1-polygon 2-curve But

Re: [PD] question about antialiased canvas on pd-extended osx release

2007-11-22 Thread Patrice Colet
Hello, Ivica Ico Bukvic a écrit : Greetings all, This is perhaps a bit OT, but I was wondering if the same appearance is reproducible on Linux as far as the antialiasing of the object boxes, connector rectangles, cords, and cord colors are concerned? The pd-extended osx looks IMHO a lot

[PD] pdp_opengl and 3dp_mouserotate

2007-11-22 Thread Husk 00
hi list! i'm try to use pdp's opengl extension but i i have a problem: i compiled pdp from 0.12.5-test-7 and all was ok. It recognize all objects exept 3dp_mouserotate. Someone knows why and how can i repair it? i'm on gnu/linux ubuntu 7.4 with a kernel 2.6.20-15-generic thanks in advance Husk

[PD] [PD-announce] Apéro PURE DATA - 16 dé c 07 - Nantes

2007-11-22 Thread Olivier Heinry
Hello, Crealab organizes a meeting around Puredata Sunday 16 December, from PM 5:00 thru PM 8:00 at the Bistrot du Chantier, 6 quai François Mitterrand, sur l'île de Nantes, à Nantes (Fr) An updated programme will be posted on this page soon: http://crealab.info/zone/drupal/?q=node/30

Re: [PD] question about antialiased canvas on pd-extended osx release

2007-11-22 Thread Andre Schmidt
hi, tcl/tk8.5 can use antialiased ttf fonts on every os and tkpath* could be used to get antialiased lines also under linux. .andre * http://tclbitprint.sourceforge.net/ On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 21:24 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Greetings all, This is perhaps a bit OT, but I was

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread cyrille henry
helo, you're right, i should update pmpd exemple. i tried this patch with gem turn off. performance did not really increase. so i don't think openGL was the problem. thanks Cyrille chris clepper a écrit : I suspect it is Apple's subpar OpenGL causing this. Rather than use a ton of sphere

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread cyrille henry
ok, thanks. osX5 is not the solution. :-( cyrille vade a écrit : MBP 2.33, 3GB ram, OS X 10.5.1, also @ 40% Just for another data point. :'( ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread Andrew Brouse
salut Cyrille, Maybe the following will be helpful. (MacBook Pro, 2.4 GHz Core 2 duo, OS 10.5.1, 2GB ram) /Applications/Pd-0.40.3-extended-20071117.app running with no patch open: PID COMMAND %CPU TIME #TH #PRTS #MREGS RPRVT RSHRD RSIZE VSIZE 4784 pd 21.3% 0:37.54 6

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread cyrille henry
hello, thanks all for your answer. yes, switching to jack improve performance, but it still not as good as in linux (i use oss). i was able to use this computer for 2 days (it's not mine), so now i can't make more test. i did not have time to install a newer version of tcltk. does pd-extended

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread marius schebella
I try to say, that the results you get from an fft or rfft are the cosine and sine portion of the signal (one value per frequency) in the frequency domain. (also referred to as real and imag part. but if you square them, you will not get 1 for each frequency but the amplitude. so

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Cyrille, cyrille henry wrote: Derek : do you know if this performance problem happend only with pd, or also with other software? I didn't take a lot of time to benchmark different applications between the two platforms, although I did spend about 3 months (2 years ago) seeing how much

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, marius schebella wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: this is actually cos^2+sin^2=1 in this context, these are not unity vextors, if you square the cosine and sine part you don't get one, but a square of the amplitudes, so it is more cos^2+sin^2=amplitude^2 i mean cos and

Re: [PD] pdpedia in spanish (castellano)

2007-11-22 Thread Jaime Oliver
maybe we can put some sort of symbol to mean that it is done, i was thinking of doing one vanilla/day, i am quite busy for now so i at least hope to be able to do that... J On 11/22/07, raul diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok Vircy! I have created my account and now I can start to translate some

Re: [PD] SDIF

2007-11-22 Thread Rich E
i'm getting ready to package an external i wrote for reading SDIF files, but it still has a couple bugs that i need to work out. What uses would you have with SDIF? Personally, I use the 1TRC spectral analysis files from SPEAR, synthesizing them in pd. This has been working well for me, but I'm

Re: [PD] SDIF

2007-11-22 Thread Ben Carney
Rich, Sounds awesome. One of my friends gave me a brief into to what SDIF sound like in MAX/MSP and I was quite jealous to say the least. As I know next to nothing about them except for the way that they can sound, I was wanting to experiment with synthises and SPEAR as well. eagerly awaiting

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread cyrille henry
Derek Holzer a écrit : Hi Cyrille, cyrille henry wrote: Derek : do you know if this performance problem happend only with pd, or also with other software? I didn't take a lot of time to benchmark different applications between the two platforms, although I did spend about 3 months

[PD] pd 0.41.0 test07 font size

2007-11-22 Thread cyrille henry
hello, i'm using latest pd test version on miller website. depending on my screen(s) resolution the size of pd font change a lot. see : http://nusmuk.free.fr/pd_font/ cyrille ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: If I run two rfft's from the same signal, and multiply the imaginary outputs, do I get negative squares? I'll see... Pd does not support Complex numbers directly, and so any Complex signal is represented as two Real signals, in which you have to do

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Even more interesting to me is when my physicist friend told me that the Uncertainty Principle is deeply rooted in the trade off between time window size and frequency resolution of the FFT. Kinda demystifies a whole decade of my life... That's quite

Re: [PD] performance on osX

2007-11-22 Thread vade
Um. Typically all of the GUI is GPU powered, and should not hit the CPU. Why do you think this? There are plenty of high performance applications that run just dandy on OS X. On Nov 22, 2007, at 5:43 PM, cyrille henry wrote: I'm fairly positive it has to do with whether Aqua handles the

Re: [PD] fft beginner question

2007-11-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007, Martin Peach wrote: Only the kinetic energy can be measured directly. The potential energy can only be calculated. So how do you measure the kinetic energy without calculating? There is no real instrument that can measure the potential energy So, where is the

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 17 Nov 2007, Uur Güney wrote: But the musical data of composition (in the mind of the composer), or the sound producing mechanisms are not one dimensional. The composer builds its ideas not on one dimensional space but she has structures which may have certain hiyerarchies or

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Charles Henry wrote: Yes, but there is evidence for the fundamental bass that occurs between pairs of notes, with a strength dependent on those ratios. Complex harmonies could have multiple fundamentals. It's a mystery to me how harmony/rhythm work at a fundamental

Re: [PD] tabread4~~

2007-11-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Uhm, just the fact that the majority of musicians don't even know what topology is, yet their music still sounds great, is enough for me to believe your conjecture. Most musicians don't use pd. What does that mean about the usefulness of pd? You