Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc2 released

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Enrique Erne wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: - remove the entire hexloader quirks and just claim that you cannot write objects with filenames containing special characters. should it work on osx? it never worked for me. i reported it a couple of times and last time i checked the

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Chris McCormick wrote: Something struck me whilst out walking today; has anyone applied the seam carving technique: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seam_carving www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcIJXTlugc to FFT data to do a timestretch/timecompress that is more sensitive to attack

Re: [PD] compiling external in Linux

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jaime Oliver wrote: Hello all, I am trying to compile a simple external (non-signal one) in Fedora in the following way: I put a folder with the .c file, m_pd.h and the makefile (attached) in the extra folder, it is _really_ bad style to bundle the m_pd.h file with your code. imo, the

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
João Pais wrote: Hi, I guess new users use extended, since both are now in parallel versions. with in parallel versions, do you mean the latest officially released versions Pd-0.41-4 vs Pd-extended-0.39.3 or not-yet released versions Pd-0.42.0-test1 vs Pd-extended-0.40-rc4? (admittedly the

Re: [PD] Delete scalars

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Miller Puckette wrote: I'm thinking about making a message to pointer that deletes the object after the pointed-to one (thus leaving the pointer itself unchanged) -- the gotch is that it would stalify all other pointers to the list, at least as things are currently

Re: [PD] mrpeach osc - pipelist question

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Martin Peach wrote: make [pipelist] accept lists without the list selector (aka meta-messages) then. i agree. OK, the latest [pipelist] in svn pipes lists as well as meta-messages. the problem with this is that the object behaves weird if it is also meant to have special messages. e.g.

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread João Pais
with in parallel versions, do you mean the latest officially released versions Pd-0.41-4 vs Pd-extended-0.39.3 or not-yet released versions Pd-0.42.0-test1 vs Pd-extended-0.40-rc4? I meant the latest usable (which I have installed) builds of pd-extended, and the last version of

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
João Pais wrote: I meant the latest usable (which I have installed) builds of pd-extended, and the last version of pd-vanilla-without-documentation-about-data-strucutures-and-so-on (also being unfair). I haven't being using pd too much these days for sound, but in the last builds of

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread João Pais
I meant the latest usable (which I have installed) builds of pd-extended, and the last version of pd-vanilla-without-documentation-about-data-strucutures-and-so-on (also being unfair). I haven't being using pd too much these days for sound, but in the last builds of pd-ext I didn't

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
João Pais wrote: by any chance, you are not running an amd64 system? (this is getting hot ground for me, as i am not so sure whether PdX actually does have some x86_64 patches incorporated; but chances are low) my new desktop is a 64 d-core intel, I have windows and ubuntu there. i

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Great !!! Thats very helpful.. Is it diffcult to implement detecting abstractions within abstractions ??? That would be perfect Cheers Luigi Am 04.07.2008 um 13:20 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I've made a patch that might be useful for others. In the attached patch you can open a

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread João Pais
i was trying to say that you are obviously not trying to run a native 64bit system (with a 64bit kernel and running Pd as 64bit application) the good thing about amd64/emt64 is, that they can also run 32bit (i386). anyhow, if you want to run Pd in as a native 64bit app, you will need

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
João Pais wrote: you mentioned 64bit, and the other things, do you know of any place where to find a small reference about that? now I am curious. I usually update the version anyway, but more for sport than after a carefully-pondered reflexion (in the case of Pd). well, in theory it

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Hi, Yet another approach ;) I've got a suite of bash scripts that help narrow down which externals are missing. Here's a real-life-example: --8-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maximus/pdpatchinfo$ cat ../2007/d01234two/*.pd | ./objs.sh | ./externals.sh pd-0.41-4.txt | ./externals.sh Gem.txt |

Re: [PD] mrpeach osc - pipelist question

2008-07-08 Thread Martin Peach
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Martin Peach wrote: make [pipelist] accept lists without the list selector (aka meta-messages) then. i agree. OK, the latest [pipelist] in svn pipes lists as well as meta-messages. the problem with this is that the object behaves weird if it is also meant to

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:53:56AM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Chris McCormick wrote: Something struck me whilst out walking today; has anyone applied the seam carving technique: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seam_carving www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NcIJXTlugc to FFT

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Chris McCormick wrote: Compared to the deleting least important columns technique that they show at 1:40, the Seam Carving technique sweeps the distorsions under the carpet. After that, don't wonder what the big lump under the carpet is. Yes, that is the exact point of

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread Damian Stewart
Chris McCormick schreef: Isn't part of what makes a note perceptible it's higher energy compared to the surrounding space in the spectrogram? If this is the case, seam carving would delete seams around the notes since they have less energy, whilst preserving the sounds of the notes themselves.

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread Damian Stewart
Chris McCormick schreef: This might sound like a mess, but I'd like to hear it. (i'm reminded of a particular electroacoustic composition tutorial class i attended when studying a couple of years ago, where we were being taught to use SoundHack and the tutor was saying all sorts of things to

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread hard off
i'm thinking about how you'd do this, and the picture in my mind is of a single 2 second long clarinet note with a hihat being hit after about 1 second. so, if you were going to stretch or compress that, you'd want to preserve the parts with the most 'colour' ...which i would guess would be the

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Damian Stewart wrote: (i'm reminded of a particular electroacoustic composition tutorial class i attended when studying a couple of years ago, where we were being taught to use SoundHack and the tutor was saying all sorts of things to us like 'you should use the Hanning

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-07-08 Thread cyrille henry
hello Chuck, i tested this. (and commited) i think tabread6c~ is a bit better than tabread4c~. but differences are more smaller thx Cyrille Charles Henry a écrit : On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 6:43 AM, cyrille henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok, i'll try that. but i don't think adjusting the

[PD] delay problems

2008-07-08 Thread Ricardo Dueñas Parada
Hi list, I want to ask you about a problem I'm having for a while. Sometimes the object delay doesn't work correctly, I mean, if I put a 500, I expect to have a 500 ms bang delay. And it does, but when it wants. Other times it just let the bang pass, as with 0 delay. Most of the times it happens

Re: [PD] delay problems

2008-07-08 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Ricardo Dueñas Parada wrote: Hi list, I want to ask you about a problem I'm having for a while. Sometimes the object delay doesn't work correctly, I mean, if I put a 500, I expect to have a 500 ms bang delay. And it does, but when it wants. Other times it just let the bang pass, as with 0

Re: [PD] delay problems

2008-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Ricardo Dueñas Parada hat gesagt: // Ricardo Dueñas Parada wrote: Sometimes the object delay doesn't work correctly, I mean, if I put a 500, I expect to have a 500 ms bang delay. And it does, but when it wants. Other times it just let the bang pass, as with 0 delay. Most of the times

Re: [PD] mrpeach osc - pipelist question

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: (the other, more clumsy solution was of course to use [list]-[pipelist]-[list trim]) This doesn't work with real lists, because [list] won't prepend an extra list selector, so [list trim] will remove that when $1 is a symbol. Then you can use

Re: [PD] Seam carving audio

2008-07-08 Thread Ico Doornekamp
* On 2008-07-08 hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : i'm thinking about how you'd do this, and the picture in my mind is of a single 2 second long clarinet note with a hihat being hit after about 1 second. so, if you were going to stretch or compress that, you'd want to preserve the

Re: [PD] mrpeach osc - pipelist question

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Martin Peach wrote: It has 'clear' and 'flush'. I suppose (without trying it right now) that those two will be interpreted as messages to pipelist, since the 'anything' method is called as a last resort by Pd when no method matches the selector. Perhaps renaming them to

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-07-08 Thread Charles Henry
Hey, Cyrille, I kind of thought so... we are quickly running into the law of diminishing returns. I was up late, last night, working on the analysis some more. I think I can have another 6-point version with better characteristics tonight. Chuck On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:35 AM, cyrille henry

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-07-08 Thread cyrille henry
ok, cool now, it would also be nice to have a good band limited table reader... cyrille Charles Henry a écrit : Hey, Cyrille, I kind of thought so... we are quickly running into the law of diminishing returns. I was up late, last night, working on the analysis some more. I think I can

[PD] smallest number from a stream of numbers

2008-07-08 Thread Ben Carney
Hello there list! pretty simple question I think, but I'm a bit stumped. I have a stream of numbers coming in from a flex sensor and I would love to be able to grab the lowest number from x amount of numbers, every 30 numbers or so. I looked through the [list minmax] example, but could not

Re: [PD] smallest number from a stream of numbers

2008-07-08 Thread cyrille henry
Ben Carney a écrit : Hello there list! pretty simple question I think, but I'm a bit stumped. I have a stream of numbers coming in from a flex sensor and I would love to be able to grab the lowest number from x amount of numbers, every 30 numbers or so. I looked through the [list

Re: [PD] mrpeach osc - pipelist question

2008-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: However I can't think of a solution for dealing with list list a b c going through [route list] to become list a b c then through [list prepend list] to become list list a b c and not list list list a b c, in which case it will

Re: [PD] smallest number from a stream of numbers

2008-07-08 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, cyrille henry hat gesagt: // cyrille henry wrote: Ben Carney a écrit : Hello there list! pretty simple question I think, but I'm a bit stumped. I have a stream of numbers coming in from a flex sensor and I would love to be able to grab the lowest number from x amount of

Re: [PD] smallest number from a stream of numbers

2008-07-08 Thread Ben Carney
hmm... I have to say I don't quite know what this [mapping] is. I tried the obvious (trying to create a [mapping] object). can I get a bit of a further explanation f what you mean, cyrille? thanks On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 1:58 PM, cyrille henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Carney a écrit :

Re: [PD] smallest number from a stream of numbers

2008-07-08 Thread Ben Carney
oh shit. there is a mapping/last_n object. I thought you meant using the mapping object with my last 30 numbers. argh - On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Ben Carney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm... I have to say I don't quite know what this [mapping] is. I tried the obvious (trying to

Re: [PD] XML-files

2008-07-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 7, 2008, at 9:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: altern wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED](e)k dio: How is it possible to make-XML files useable in Pd. e.g for controlling not sure what you are after but i am reading an XML file using python via pyext external and returning some data to PD

Re: [PD] [pd] where is sssad?

2008-07-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 30, 2008, at 6:15 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 07:37:36PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, dani hat gesagt: // dani wrote: you mean this? http://mccormick.cx/viewcvs/oldcrap/s-abstractions/sssad/ If your frightended by the oldcrap in that URL (though

Re: [PD] Pdpedia error messages

2008-07-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
IDMI/Poly, the hosts, are in the process of upgrading their server to Leopard and it seems to have broken a lot of things. I guess you get what you pay for ;) Too bad it had to be on the Mac OS X server, rather than the Debian server. I'll try to fix it ASAP. .hc On Jun 30, 2008, at

[PD] change in range

2008-07-08 Thread Ben Carney
since cyrille answered my question with cat like speed and pinpoint accuracy, I have another on for the list. I know change doesnt let same numbers pass on. Is there a way to only let numbers pass on if they are say... plus or minus 3 of the current value? -- Ben C.

Re: [PD] change in range

2008-07-08 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Ben Carney wrote: since cyrille answered my question with cat like speed and pinpoint accuracy, I have another on for the list. I know change doesnt let same numbers pass on. Is there a way to only let numbers pass on if they are say... plus or minus 3 of the current value? something like

Re: [PD] change in range

2008-07-08 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Ben Carney wrote: I know change doesnt let same numbers pass on. Is there a way to only let numbers pass on if they are say... plus or minus 3 of the current value? Arg, sorry - I was too hasty. The attached works ok for me (although with some minor quirks

Re: [PD] change in range

2008-07-08 Thread Ben Carney
I believe that this is perfect thank you so much. did you just whip that up or did you have it on hand? Best, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: Ben Carney wrote: I know change doesnt let same numbers pass on. Is

Re: [PD] change in range

2008-07-08 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Ben Carney wrote: I believe that this is perfect thank you so much. did you just whip that up or did you have it on hand? Made freshly, so fresh that there's a bug when changing right hand inlet.. Attached is a fixed version (I hope) Best, On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Claude

Re: [PD] smallest number from a stream of numbers

2008-07-08 Thread Enrique Erne
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, cyrille henry hat gesagt: // cyrille henry wrote: Ben Carney a écrit : Hello there list! pretty simple question I think, but I'm a bit stumped. I have a stream of numbers coming in from a flex sensor and I would love to be able to grab the lowest number

Re: [PD] delay problems

2008-07-08 Thread Ricardo Dueñas Parada
That was the problem, indeed. Thanks. 2008/7/8 Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, Ricardo Dueñas Parada hat gesagt: // Ricardo Dueñas Parada wrote: Sometimes the object delay doesn't work correctly, I mean, if I put a 500, I expect to have a 500 ms bang delay. And it does, but when

Re: [PD] analog-modelling 808 hihat and cowbell

2008-07-08 Thread Damian Stewart
Damian Stewart wrote: hey everyone, to complement Roman Haefeli's excellent 808 kick and clap abstractions (http://www.romanhaefeli.net/software/pd/rdz_dsplib.tar.gz), i've put together a hihat and cowbell, constructed by close listening to a collection of 808 samples. it's not perfect but

Re: [PD] analog-modelling 808 hihat and cowbell

2008-07-08 Thread hard off
that's a brilliant idea to use receives on the oscillators, so that the same ones can be used for both the bell and the hat. sounds great too. here are some other drum sounds i have made and/or collected: http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1930-diy-library-part-diy-perk

Re: [PD] print all abstractions and externals

2008-07-08 Thread Luke Iannini
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 3:36 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Yet another approach ;) I've got a suite of bash scripts that help narrow down which externals are missing. Here's a real-life-example: --8-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/maximus/pdpatchinfo$ cat

[PD] compiling pd-extended ubuntu hardy amd64

2008-07-08 Thread Sergi Lario
I get some errors trying to compile pd-extended in a ubuntu hardy amd64. I did this steps: 1.- Get pd-extended trunk code via svn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/pd-extended$ svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/ ./ 2.- Get Gem code from http://gem.iem.at/ and copy

[PD] Mac OS X 10.3 build for Pd-extended

2008-07-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I put together a test build for Pd-extended on 10.3. Please test it: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html You might need to copy Gem.pd_darwin out of the previous version of Pd-extended to make it work. .hc

Re: [PD] better tabread4~

2008-07-08 Thread Matt Barber
Cyrille, Could you try this optimization for the tabread6c~ I threw together? It uses the same general notation as the tab4c~ suite: t_sample a3plusa4plusa5 = 0.25f*c+0.125f*e-0.333f*d-0.0417*a; t_sample fminusa = f-a; t_sample eminusb = e-b; t_sample

Re: [PD] best way to do 1/x

2008-07-08 Thread PSPunch
Hi, I've never noticed send/receive causing unpredictable execution order. Can someone show me an example of under what circumstances this occurs so I can avoid future head aches? -- David Shimamoto Atte André Jensen wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Yes, it is. ;) But slightly more

Re: [PD] best way to do 1/x

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, PSPunch wrote: I've never noticed send/receive causing unpredictable execution order. Can someone show me an example of under what circumstances this occurs so I can avoid future head aches? all cases. the receivers are ordered in the order that they are created. if you

Re: [PD] best way to do 1/x

2008-07-08 Thread PSPunch
Mathieu, I was imagining rather a single send/receive pair messing around with execution order of data entering at once. Thanks a bunch though. -- David Shimamoto On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, PSPunch wrote: I've never noticed send/receive causing unpredictable execution order. Can someone

[PD] vline~, vsnapshot~, etc.

2008-07-08 Thread Matt Barber
Dumb question: What does the v in [vline~], [vsnapshot~], etc. mean? Is it also the same in the vinlet and vexpr object classes? Thanks, Matt ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc2 released

2008-07-08 Thread Luke Iannini
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:37 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke Iannini wrote: So, sorry to pick on the hexloader some more : ) but it seems it is the culprit. Can anyone confirm? it makes sense. could you send me the complete output of the pd-console when loading your

Re: [PD] best way to do 1/x

2008-07-08 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008, PSPunch wrote: I was imagining rather a single send/receive pair messing around with execution order of data entering at once. This does not happen except for the confusion that is caused by creating those invisible wires across parts of the programme that are presumed to