Re: [PD] how to avoid (most/many/some) readsf~ dropouts

2008-07-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: as an alternative: assuming the files were in 16 bit, wouldn't it make more sense to create a ramdisk and store all wav-files there in order to read them with [readsf~]? this way you would save half of the amount, because they are

Re: [PD] [nosleep] WAS: how to avoid (most/many/some) readsf~ dropouts

2008-07-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think a suite of low-level objects would be very useful, then you could create your own [performance_mode] abstraction. Things like [hdparm], [/sys], [/proc], etc. Wow, not even the module-heavy Python has

Re: [PD] Spell checking / existence of a word

2008-07-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 07:17:48PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Lua is trivial to build on OS-X. Did you have to install the XCode developer kit (or whatever it's called) to do this? Or is there a built in compiler? What version

Re: [PD] Spell checking / existence of a word

2008-07-16 Thread Luke Iannini
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Chris McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 07:17:48PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Nicolas Montgermont hat gesagt: // Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Has anybody developped a way to check the existence of a word in a given

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hard off wrote: why do tilde objects work in vanilla pd, but the zexy tilde objects are so uncooperative? which object gives you trouble? [noisi~], [limiter~], [dirac~]? anyhow, zexy's objects are not uncooperative at all. zexy is and was meant to be compiled as a multi-object library, just

Re: [PD] Spell checking / existence of a word

2008-07-16 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
Hi Frank, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, You could use Lua instead. It's like [shell] on steroids, if you employ something like io.popen like this: word = get_word_from_inlet() cmd = aspell -c .. word p = assert(io.popen(cmd)) result = p:read(*all) Lua is trivial to build on

Re: [PD] Spell checking / existence of a word

2008-07-16 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Nicolas Montgermont wrote: Hi Frank, Frank Barknecht a écrit : Hallo, You could use Lua instead. It's like [shell] on steroids, if you employ something like io.popen like this: word = get_word_from_inlet() cmd = aspell -c .. word p = assert(io.popen(cmd)) result = p:read(*all)

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:01 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hard off wrote: why do tilde objects work in vanilla pd, but the zexy tilde objects are so uncooperative? which object gives you trouble? [noisi~], [limiter~], [dirac~]? anyhow, zexy's objects are not uncooperative at all.

Re: [PD] frequency components analysis

2008-07-16 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2008-07-13 at 02:00 -0700, Julian Villegas wrote: I did, in fact I'm using sigmund~ cause somewhere in this list, someone (Miller?) said it was better to use it instead of fiddle~. Can anybody confirm that sigmund~ is better? What do you mean 'better'? What is it you are trying to

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread hard off
oh sorry i should have been clearer. yes i was referring to ~ and ~ specifically. pd vanilla can load both the and characters, and tilde~ characters too.but pd extended can't load them together as part of the zexy library. iohannes, i really appreciate all your hard work, and maybe my

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hard off wrote: oh sorry i should have been clearer. yes i was referring to ~ and ~ specifically. pd vanilla can load both the and characters, and tilde~ characters too.but pd extended can't load them together as part of the zexy library. iohannes, i really appreciate all your

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Roman Haefeli wrote: (and was almost solved in Pd-vanilla - but alas! in the end it was not), what was the reason for that? who knows? anyhow, i don't think it will be fixed upstream within the next years... even while using pd-vanilla, i used to compile zexy as single-object

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread cyrille henry
hello sorry if i misunderstand. rotateXYZ will rotate in X direction, then in Y, finally in Z. if you wish to rotate in Z, then in X, you just need 2 rotate objects: the 1st for the rotation in Z, then an other for the rotation in X. anyway, there is no matrix manipulation that i was not able to

Re: [PD] Spell checking / existence of a word

2008-07-16 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
Claude Heiland-Allen a écrit : local LSpell = pd.Class:new():register(lspell) This could be the problem, registering classes is usual in .pd_lua files but not .pd_luax files. I haven't really understood how to build a pd_luax file then... nevermind. function

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: even while using pd-vanilla, i used to compile zexy as single-object externals in order to make my patches as troublefree as possible on pd-extended. Pd-extended has no problems whatsoever in loading multi-object libraries.

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Enrique Erne
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: (and was almost solved in Pd-vanilla - but alas! in the end it was not), what was the reason for that? who knows? the inability of the pd community to agree on a standard (on a social level) please correct me if i'm wrong.

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:09 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: (and was almost solved in Pd-vanilla - but alas! in the end it was not), what was the reason for that? who knows? anyhow, i don't think it will be fixed upstream within the next years... even

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Martin Peach
Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:09 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: (the only difference i know of is troubles with special-characters when using single-object externals) there is also the issue, that aliases are not (completely) supported by pd-extended, afaik. Seems to me

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 09:25 -0400, Martin Peach wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 13:09 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: (the only difference i know of is troubles with special-characters when using single-object externals) there is also the issue, that aliases are

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Roman Haefeli wrote: (the only difference i know of is troubles with special-characters when using single-object externals) there is also the issue, that aliases are not (completely) supported by pd-extended, afaik. Don't expect aliases to be supported by software made

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Martin Peach wrote: Seems to me weird characters always cause trouble somewhere along the line. Why not rename them [lt~] and [gt~]? Then there's something in gridflow I think that actually uses * in its name, I encoded that using the hexloader's convention for the

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread marius schebella
I think we have to face that pd's current features are not able to meet all needs: namespaces, special characters, fast loading, aliases... what is missing? does pd have something like a registered objects list? an index, which is created on pd startup that holds the name and aliases to all

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Martin Peach
Roman Haefeli wrote: (whoever decides, which are considered weird and which not) characters To me, the set of characters that are not acceptable as part of filenames on at least one of the usual OSs, inclusive ored with the set of characters that are not acceptable to Tcl via Pd, comprise the

Re: [PD] Spell checking / existence of a word

2008-07-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Nicolas Montgermont hat gesagt: // Nicolas Montgermont wrote: function LSpell:in_1_symbol(s) pd.post(received : .. s) word = get_word_from_inlet() cmd = aspell -c .. word p = assert(io.popen(cmd)) result = p:read(*all) end I know there is no output yet but

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, marius schebella wrote: does pd have something like a registered objects list? an index, which is created on pd startup that holds the name and aliases to all objects that can be created but without loading the objects themselves? reminds me that jMax had a two-step setup

[PD] Backslash

2008-07-16 Thread Jorge Cardoso
Hi all, I'm having a problem with backslashs on windows and none of the solution I found on the web works in my case: I have an OSC message that has a path to a file. Something like: c:\folder\image.jpg How can I convert that, in PD, to c:/folder/image.jpg? I can't control how the OSC

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread B. Bogart
Indeed, Seems to me all the matrix discussion does not get to the heart of the question. So, Pspunch, what are you really trying to do? I agree with cyrille that It's very likely the normal rotation objects will do what you want it to. If you are just wanting to rotate many times, using huge

Re: [PD] Backslash

2008-07-16 Thread Damian Stewart
Jorge Cardoso schreef: How can I convert that, in PD, to c:/folder/image.jpg? I can't control how the OSC messages are generated... text-processing in Pd is difficult but not impossible. have a look at the mrpeach/str object.. ___ Pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Martin Peach
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: If all internal classes became single external classes, as some people have wished already, then you end up with bunch of classes named like [*] and [/] that have to be named something in the filesystem, and so should their helpfiles. Furthermore, by consistency, things

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, B. Bogart wrote: If you are just wanting to rotate many times, using huge numbers then tricks like: wrap 0 359 work well... Depends how huge they are. Pick 100032. That should give 312 degrees, supposing you use [wrap 0 360] instead of [wrap 0 359]. But as a pd

[PD] bringing an open subpatch to the foreground needs one click too many

2008-07-16 Thread tim
Hi all, I don't know if it's pd-specific or a Gdm thing... Though it's a simple 'problem' it's kind of long to describe. here goes: 1. Click a subpatch object in a patch. It opens the subpatch in a new window. 2. click on the parent patch's window so the subpatch gets hidden behind it. 3. Click

Re: [PD] Backslash

2008-07-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Jorge Cardoso hat gesagt: // Jorge Cardoso wrote: I'm having a problem with backslashs on windows and none of the solution I found on the web works in my case: I have an OSC message that has a path to a file. Something like: c:\folder\image.jpg How can I convert that, in PD, to

Re: [PD] bringing an open subpatch to the foreground needs one click too many

2008-07-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
tim wrote: Hi all, I don't know if it's pd-specific or a Gdm thing... this sounds awfully like a feature of your window manager. if your wm supports tuning tryto do so. else change the wm dfgam,sdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 16, 2008, at 12:37 PM, Martin Peach wrote: Mathieu Bouchard wrote: If all internal classes became single external classes, as some people have wished already, then you end up with bunch of classes named like [*] and [/] that have to be named something in the filesystem, and so

Re: [PD] [nosleep] WAS: how to avoid (most/many/some) readsf~ dropouts

2008-07-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 16, 2008, at 4:21 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think a suite of low-level objects would be very useful, then you could create your own [performance_mode] abstraction. Things like [hdparm], [/sys], [/proc],

Re: [PD] [nosleep] WAS: how to avoid (most/many/some) readsf~ dropouts

2008-07-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 15, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I think a suite of low-level objects would be very useful, then you could create your own [performance_mode] abstraction. Things like [hdparm], [/sys], [/proc], etc. doesn't

[PD] vst~ again Status and Questions

2008-07-16 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Hi List What about the infamous vst~ object ?? I am trying it on XP now...installed pd-extended 0.39.3 and there is no help file ??? Ok...i took it from somewhere else and i can load the plugins .. just fine But i cant get the edit window to work (on XP) is it supposed to work ??

Re: [PD] Backslash

2008-07-16 Thread Jorge Cardoso
Thanks, [makefilename %c] worked. I ended up with this: [bang] | [dumpOSC 999]-- | | 92 ( [OSCroute /message] -- || [unpack s s s] [makefilename %c] |

Re: [PD] Backslash

2008-07-16 Thread Jorge Cardoso
Sorry, just realized that my great ascii work might not display well on some email clients. The patch is in attachment. jorge -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jorge Cardoso Sent: Wed 7/16/2008 8:48 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Backslash Thanks,

Re: [PD] vst~ again Status and Questions

2008-07-16 Thread Thomas Grill
Am 16.07.2008 um 21:47 schrieb Luigi Rensinghoff: But i cant get the edit window to work (on XP) does your vst plugin have an editor at all? I know there are some that don't work too well, but even those should at least show up. is it supposed to work ?? yes, it usually does

Re: [PD] vst~ again Status and Questions

2008-07-16 Thread Luigi Rensinghoff
Am 17.07.2008 um 00:17 schrieb Thomas Grill: Am 16.07.2008 um 21:47 schrieb Luigi Rensinghoff: But i cant get the edit window to work (on XP) does your vst plugin have an editor at all? I know there are some that don't work too well, but even those should at least show up. No it

[PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday

2008-07-16 Thread Dafydd Hughes
Hey folks Just in case there are Pd users hanging about in or around Toronto that I'm not in regular contact with who don't have anything to do next Thursday night. This is bound to be loads of fun. All the participants are really cool and funny people.

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread B. Bogart
I suppose we'll here from David... I do certainly not quite understand what he is aiming to do. As for the heart of the question: ...I have come across concepts such as multiplying matrixs and converting a matrix to 'quarternion', 'gimbal lock'. Does not sound like he is explicitly trying to

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread PSPunch
Hi, My primary goal is to place an object you can rotate by dragging the mouse. Basically, whenever the mouse is clicked to start drag, I want to rotate the object on the X Y axises. Up to this point is no problem, but I want the rotation to begin assuming the direction of the viewer being

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, PSPunch wrote: My primary goal is to place an object you can rotate by dragging the mouse. Ok, if it's through a user interface like that, for computing just one rotation matrix, I guess you could use [accumrotate] unless it accumulates too much error. Suppose that it

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, B. Bogart wrote: ...I have come across concepts such as multiplying matrixs and converting a matrix to 'quarternion', 'gimbal lock'. Does not sound like he is explicitly trying to avoid gimbal lock to me. ;) if he is using [accumrotate] he is trying to avoid gimbal lock.

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, PSPunch wrote: Well, that's sort of it, if you use the name 'matrix' as taken from Jitter, or as taken from a plain linear algebra system that has been expanded to higher-order structures. I was referring to matrix as in linear algebra like you mentioned. I no nothing

Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday

2008-07-16 Thread Dafydd Hughes
You're the second person who's mentioned video or streaming. There's a pretty good chance we'll record it - streaming is less likely. I'll make sure I post links to whatever video we make. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:50 PM, PSPunch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there. Sounds like a great event

Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday

2008-07-16 Thread Dafydd Hughes
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, how is the Pd community in Toronto nowadays? Ask me again next Friday. -- www.sideshowmedia.ca skype: chickeninthegrass ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday

2008-07-16 Thread Matthew Logan
Oh, definitely want to see a vid of this one. That would be great! On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:25 PM, Dafydd Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're the second person who's mentioned video or streaming. There's a pretty good chance we'll record it - streaming is less likely. I'll make sure I

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-16 Thread PSPunch
O/T Now that I've got a grasp of what they are good for in real (or virtual) life, I enjoyed spending the last week or so studying math putting patching aside. :( So why don't you smile? I was practicing my sarcasm which I've just proved that it can use some improvement. Of course

Re: [PD] vst~ again Status and Questions

2008-07-16 Thread David Powers
Hey, I have used vst~ to great effect in PD before, and had no problem viewing the VST GUI interface... in fact I gave a workshop on basic synthesis for techno producers where I used all free VST's inside of PD, and PD as the routing/sequencing engine and it worked great. However I have no idea