[PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
Hello, I have a question, how hard do you think it would be create a notation engine for GEM? What considerations would go into the design? On the simplest level, I'm imagining doing non-rhythmic notation to display chords and cells for improvisors. Since the number of notes on a chord would be

Re: [PD] Harware and video card with Linux

2008-07-17 Thread Simon Wise
On 13 Jul 2008, at 7:28 AM, Jack wrote: I would like to use one PC with ubuntu and 2 graphic cards with 2 outputs (total : 4 video outputs). I usually use a Mac. Can you give me a good harware configuation using Pd and GEM equivalent to a MacPro configuration (2 intel Quad-core 2,8 GHz and

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-17 Thread hard off
ok, sorry to have caused a fuss. last question: hypothetically, if miller was to include ~ and ~ into vanilla, would they load properly then? i think those objects SHOULD be a part of vanilla pd anyway. in any sort of audio synthesis patch i do, they invariably need to be used.

Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday

2008-07-17 Thread vade
This sounds like all kinds of awesome. I second (third?) the call to document. BTW, us Max users dont just hate puppies. We eat them! And vote for McCain! WE ARE EVIL! I really hope people trash talk during the contest, Oh man, that would just be awesomely hysterical. On Jul 16, 2008, at

[PD] sssad glitch

2008-07-17 Thread hard off
frank, i found a glitch with sssad. if you use sssad to save the state of a toggle, then sending a [set( message to SSSAD_ADMIN will force a bang on the toggle, even if sssad has not received any data for that toggle. a [route bang] or [sel bang] before the [sssad] outlet fixes this problem.

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hard off wrote: ok, sorry to have caused a fuss. last question: hypothetically, if miller was to include ~ and ~ into vanilla, would they load properly then? yes of course. again: the only problem with these objects is that you cannot have files (e.g. binary files containing the code for

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-17 Thread cyrille henry
ok. i think i undersand. there is an other possibility based on the gemlist_info object that get curent transformation matrix and convert it to rotation / translation ... so, what i think is the most simple is : gemhead | rotateXYZ (for the drag rotation, should be (0

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-17 Thread PSPunch
Thanks, cyrille, I looked up some of the objects which were new to me in order to understand your method, and your example makes an awful lot of sense. I will try implementing it later today. Mean while, you can save few cpu using gemlist_matrix and GEMglMultMatrix. Can you please show

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
PSPunch wrote: Thanks, cyrille, I looked up some of the objects which were new to me in order to understand your method, and your example makes an awful lot of sense. I will try implementing it later today. Mean while, you can save few cpu using gemlist_matrix and

[PD] the fastest way to read/write a lot of information from memory/hard disk

2008-07-17 Thread hard off
i have a couple of sequencers with 16 steps and about 5 parameters for each step , and then a bunch of synths and drum machines running. i have always used textfile for saving sequence and control data for such setups, but if i have a hundred patterns or more, it gets really slow. i guess its

Re: [PD] Pd/MAX grudge match in Toronto next Thursday

2008-07-17 Thread Michal Seta
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Dafydd Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Competitors: Frank Tsonis vs. Dafydd Hughes and David McCallum While I play for the Pd team, I find this rather unfair, 2 on 1. But on the other hand, most Max users I've met think that Max is twice as good so I guess that

Re: [PD] the fastest way to read/write a lot of information from memory/hard disk

2008-07-17 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
hard off wrote: i have a couple of sequencers with 16 steps and about 5 parameters for each step , and then a bunch of synths and drum machines running. i have always used textfile for saving sequence and control data for such setups, but if i have a hundred patterns or more, it gets

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-17 Thread PSPunch
Cyrille, With your advise, I think I've successfully implemented the algorithm I had in mind. The sad thing is, the algorithm I imagined did not exactly function in the way I wanted. i.e. 1, during one drag session, when rotating the Y axis (dragging right or left) 180 degrees and then

[PD] How to read .mid files

2008-07-17 Thread Costis Benardis
Hi I have a simple (i hope) question. How can i read a midi file stored in my hd. What i want to do is to read data from a .mid file and write them in a table. Thanks _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger 

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-17 Thread Matthew Logan
This is rotating about local axes within the pot, which move when the pot moves, creating the strange response. The response should be based on a global set of axes, which will remain constant and provide the response you want. On 7/17/08, PSPunch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cyrille, With

Re: [PD] How to read .mid files

2008-07-17 Thread Martin Peach
You could use [mrpeach/midifile] or [mrpeach/binfile] depending on how raw you want the data. Martin Costis Benardis wrote: I have a simple (i hope) question. How can i read a midi file stored in my hd. What i want to do is to read data from a .mid file and write them in a table. Thanks

Re: [PD] How to read .mid files

2008-07-17 Thread Spencer Russell
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:26:28 +0200 From: Costis Benardis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PD] How to read .mid files Hi I have a simple (i hope) question. How can i read a midi file stored in my hd. What i want to do is to read data from a .mid file and write them in a table. Thanks

[PD] saving state of a patch

2008-07-17 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi I'm trying to build something generic for performing live with pd and for the most parts, it's going really well. But I need to save the state of everything (a patch with some instances of some abstractions), so that the widgets will preserve their state between sessions. I looked into

Re: [PD] Free rotation in GEM

2008-07-17 Thread cyrille henry
hello, yes, there was a small bug in your algo. it's easier for me to make a patch than to explain the problem. so, i think this is what you need. cyrille PSPunch a écrit : Cyrille, With your advise, I think I've successfully implemented the algorithm I had in mind. The sad thing is,

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
This sounds interesting, I will take a look at it when I get out of work... As far as what improvisors need, I'm working in the more 'experimental' improv scene right now, which means: 1. They won't be playing 'Cmajor7' but rather collections of pitch cells such as (0 3 5 1 2 4) in some specific

[PD] background color of instances of abstraction

2008-07-17 Thread Atte André Jensen
Hi Is it possible (for reasons of visual feedback) to change the background color of one instance of an abstraction? It's an abstraction where only one instance is active at the time, so I'd like to change the background color of the active one. Is obviously should be done programatically

Re: [PD] background color of instances of abstraction

2008-07-17 Thread marius schebella
hi, either put a canvas in the background and change it via send/receive or use sys_gui in combination with hcs/canvas_name which lets you change the font/bg colors of your patch dynamically. marius. Atte André Jensen wrote: Hi Is it possible (for reasons of visual feedback) to change the

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread patrice colet
David Powers a écrit : This sounds interesting, I will take a look at it when I get out of work... As far as what improvisors need, I'm working in the more 'experimental' improv scene right now, which means: 1. They won't be playing 'Cmajor7' but rather collections of pitch cells such as (0

[PD] Pd-extended 0.40 cannot load libraries

2008-07-17 Thread Thomas Mayer
Hello, after my switch from Debian Etch to Lenny I have also tried the latest versions of Pd-extended, 0.40-rc3 and the current autobuilds for 0.40 and 0.42. All three of them cannot load certain libraries that are in my startup list. Having not followed the list closely in the last weeks and

Re: [PD] background color of instances of abstraction

2008-07-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, you could probably use the float value of $0 to generate the color. .hc On Jul 17, 2008, at 1:18 PM, marius schebella wrote: hi, either put a canvas in the background and change it via send/ receive or use sys_gui in combination with hcs/canvas_name which lets you change the

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.40 cannot load libraries

2008-07-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Can you post the transcript from the Pd window? Are you using your own .pdrc or .pdsettings? Sounds like 'libdir' might not be getting loaded. It needs to be loaded first. Also, it is better to use the default preferences, then use either [import] or [declare] to load other libraries

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 17, 2008, at 4:34 AM, hard off wrote: ok, sorry to have caused a fuss. last question: hypothetically, if miller was to include ~ and ~ into vanilla, would they load properly then? i think those objects SHOULD be a part of vanilla pd anyway. in any sort of audio synthesis patch

Re: [PD] really annoying question about tildes~

2008-07-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 17, 2008, at 5:03 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hard off wrote: ok, sorry to have caused a fuss. last question: hypothetically, if miller was to include ~ and ~ into vanilla, would they load properly then? yes of course. again: the only problem with these objects is that you

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
1. (0 3 5 1 2 4) might make sense for an engineer because zero for him would be the first note, but a musician uses to start with one, not zero. If this notation is for expressing some voicings, that is a lot easier and free to read under jazz notation for a human, unless the numbers

Re: [PD] saving state of a patch

2008-07-17 Thread Michal Seta
Hi Atte The best way to start using memento is to get a patch that works, copy and paste the guts into your own and adapt. That is, providing that memento works at all on your system. There is a guide on footils.org that should get you started with the ideas behind the system. It works fine

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread David Powers
Okay, I guess I need to check out the pdmtl stuff, I don't have pd2ascii and ascii2pd but it definitely looks useful. (It took me a second to realize you wrote a note explaining where pd2ascii was from, I thought my pd-ext was missing something at first...) In fact, I definitely better revisit

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread patrice colet
David Powers a écrit : 1. (0 3 5 1 2 4) might make sense for an engineer because zero for him would be the first note, but a musician uses to start with one, not zero. If this notation is for expressing some voicings, that is a lot easier and free to read under jazz notation for a human,

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread patrice colet
Just remember I've made an abstraction for that long ago, it won't be as fast as DS but it works and it's attached patrice colet a écrit : David Powers a écrit : 1. (0 3 5 1 2 4) might make sense for an engineer because zero for him would be the first note, but a musician uses to start

Re: [PD] Creating music notation with GEM

2008-07-17 Thread Collin Oldham
Hi David list, I did a project at Stanford/ccrma, for which my pal Rob designed a system that used Lilypond to display the output of a patch, and that worked beautifully, from the performer's (my) point of view. Here's a link to his paper, see section 2.7.