Re: [PD] Ubuntu. PD, Pulseaudio problems

2009-09-04 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi, i had similar problems on Jaunty and i solved everything with this tutorial: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130384 it's pretty complete. On my machine every application uses now Pulseaudio mixer, except Pd which makes happily use of Jack. Starting qjackctl from terminal (before

Re: [PD] [pd REFERENCE] format [was: Re: Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors]

2009-09-04 Thread João Pais
Is there any place where it's explained what are the meta patches, and what should be in each patch? I never understood the meaning of them, and therefore, have never made any. I could find any clear docs about that myself. I can however send you the I could try to do it myself as well.

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, Trying to think of a few releases that do it for me, that don't go for the quantized clubstep grid or the usual academic Fast Fourier Tropes, use computers and related technologies in a refreshing way and sound really visceral and alive, off the top of my head I'd say: Kevin Drumm -

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread Andy Farnell
Analog - kinda... I saw Merzbow at Highbury Islington back in 1992/3. His stage act was a chain of fx pedals and guitar, and electric drill/grinder wheel. On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:35:00 +0200 ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com wrote: ola, Trying to think of a few releases that do it

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread chris clepper
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:35 AM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment : wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A., kk null, ... 'The King of Noise' Boyd Rice made some of the best noise records

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread Chris McCormick
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:35:00PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment : wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A., kk null, ... Pretty sure I saw two kaoss pads on stage when kk null was playing. Chris.

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
Chris McCormick wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:35:00PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment : wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A., kk null, ... Pretty sure I saw two kaoss pads on stage when

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread Chris McCormick
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:40:20PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: Chris McCormick wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:35:00PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: as far as noise is concerned, my favs all use analog equipment : wolf eyes, incapacitants, macronympha, to live and shave in L.A.,

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This is the band I most enjoy recently: http://www.slavicsoulparty.com/ I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can hold a candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people dancing face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into completely physical

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread glerm soares
I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can hold a candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people dancing face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into completely physical instruments. same for satanique samba trio:

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread glerm soares
2009/9/4 glerm soares organi...@gmail.com I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can hold a candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people dancing face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into completely physical instruments. we don't even need

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 4, 2009, at 12:09 PM, glerm soares wrote: 2009/9/4 glerm soares organi...@gmail.com I have yet to see any computer or electronic music show that can hold a candle to the feeling of being packed into a room of people dancing face-to-face with 9 musicians pouring their guts into

[PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, so there are now some Mac OS X and Windows test builds for people to try. For GNU/Linux, building from source is still the easiest way. http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewriteTestBuilds I think its pretty useable on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. The Windows side needs more work, so I would

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread Derek Holzer
When there's finally a computer that sounds its best after I've pounded the living hell out of it and sweat all over it for at least 4 hours, then I might get more interested in live computer music again. Hunting and pecking at the keyboard while you IRC with your coding buddies is a poor

[PD] pd crash oddity (and a workaround)

2009-09-04 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Greetings all, It has come to my attention recently that when the following conditions are true, Pd (pd-extended 0.41.4 with custom patches) freezes (this is on Ubuntu 9.04 Linux with custom 2.26.29 rt kernel): 1) a low-power cpu (in this case Atom 1.6GHz) is using ondemand cpu governor, thus in

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 6:45 PM Ok, so

Re: [PD] computer music WAS: Re: Pd at a livecoding event on the BBC

2009-09-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Chris McCormick wrote: On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:40:20PM +0200, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: classification analog/digital is very arbitrary, as all use both, like pan sonic uses a lot of electronics, i don't know why they will still be classified in computer music, maybe the

Re: [PD] [pd REFERENCE] format [was: Re: Pd META: Author/Help Patch Authors]

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
There isn't any explanation, so let's make one. On pd-ext, have a look at the help file for [float], there should be a pd META subpatch there with all tags except the ones I proposed to add: AUTHOR HELP_PATCH_AUTHOR Most tags are self-explanatory; the only one that isn't is GENRE. I think we

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: CRC failed in pd-0.43-gui-rewrite\lib\tk8.5\tkfbox.tcl. The file is corrupt ! C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Desktop\pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.zip: The archive

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Thanks, fixed. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: 403 Forbidden for the windows link. (macos link works) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To:

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hmm, strange, on Mac OS X, I get a weird permissions error, but if I use 'unzip' from the command line, it works fine... .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I'm getting errors when I try to extract the zip. WinRAR gives me: ! C:\Documents and

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sounds like good stuff. I tried it on Mac OS X using Pd-extended 0.41.4, there are some ttk:style statements not wrapped in the Tcl/Tk 8.5 test around line 414, so that caused problems with 8.4. On Mac OS X, the font is a bit weird and others things are too. That's the pain of

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, rezipped it using the command line 'zip' program in Cygwin and reuploaded. It works for me on Mac OS X. Please try it and let me. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Yep, same errors on two different XP machines. There's something wrong with your zip file.

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Still says it's corrupted. Can you zip it using the native windows compression? (right click the folder - send to - Compressed (zipped) folder ) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD]

[PD] Blogging PureData Bootcamp

2009-09-04 Thread J. Simon van der Walt
A patch and some musings from the PureData Bootcamp at the RWCMD; http://jsimonvanderwalt.blogspot.com/ -- J. Simon van der Walt - Composer www.jsimonvanderwalt.com +44 (0) 7905 270 198 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread gnd
Hello, i repacked the .zip into a .tar (should be no problem to unpack it in windoze) http://itchybit.org/pd-0.43-gui-rewrite.tar when unzipping i got this: ... creating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/ inflating: pd-0.43-gui-rewrite/extra/pan/equal_power_pan~.pd

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org wrote: From: g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009,

Re: [PD] Blogging PureData Bootcamp

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Nice sounds in that first patch! .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 5:35 PM, J. Simon van der Walt wrote: A patch and some musings from the PureData Bootcamp at the RWCMD; http://jsimonvanderwalt.blogspot.com/ -- J. Simon van der Walt - Composer www.jsimonvanderwalt.com +44 (0) 7905 270 198

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, so it seems there was some kind of permissions problem. I reset the permissions and zipped it with the native zipper. .hc On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:17 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Sat, 9/5/09, g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org wrote: From: g...@itchybit.org g...@itchybit.org

[PD] [PD-ot] RSS feeds from puredata.info

2009-09-04 Thread Jack
hello, I'm trying to get feeds from http://puredata.info/news/RSS for a Drupal web site but it doesn't work. Do you know if there is something to do for this problem (what is the exact adress with the extension ? : .xml, .rss, .php ?). For example, i have no problem with the Processing web site :

Re: [PD] call for translations for new Pd GUI

2009-09-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 4, 2009, at 9:40 PM, András Murányi wrote: 2009/8/28 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Please submit it to the patch tracker so we can keep track of what need doing :) .hc wuh, patch tracker, where is it please? do i join at sf? thanks, Andras

Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds

2009-09-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-GUI-Rewrite test builds To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: g...@itchybit.org, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 3:24 AM Ok, so