Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-15 22:53, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, I'm trying to play some mpeg4 and h.264-encoded video files with pix_film in Ubuntu 10.04, and it is terribly slow: it reads about 4-5 frames per second and eat 100% of the CPU. it seems like a missed the information about the exact

[PD] make me

2010-08-16 Thread patrick
hi all, http://vimeo.com/14173386 make me is a pure data patch with voice recognition (simon) to detect the position of your head (opencv) and replace your face with a still picture. presented at the pd users group in montreal awhile ago. pat

[PD] 0.42.5-extended-rc5, entering number values with keyboard

2010-08-16 Thread Johnny Ferguson
Hi, I've seen in many pd guides that it is possible to use the keyboard to enter values into number and symbol atoms. I've tried clicking, double-clicking, and I can't seem to enter values with my keyboard. It's very difficult to use the mouse to reach certain values, and I've had to resort

Re: [PD] Change CPU rules and another unrelated question

2010-08-16 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 01:11:53AM +0200, Pierre Massat wrote: I have two questions: Is there a way i could tell my laptop to use a certain cpu rule from within Pd? In a previous post I was advised to change the cpu rules so as to prevent the processor from lowering it's frequency. I am

Re: [PD] 0.42.5-extended-rc5, entering number values with keyboard

2010-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-16 10:44, Johnny Ferguson wrote: Hi, I've seen in many pd guides that it is possible to use the keyboard to enter values into number and symbol atoms. I've tried clicking, double-clicking, and I can't seem to enter values with my keyboard. try again: - click on the numberbox -

Re: [PD] Change CPU rules and another unrelated question

2010-08-16 Thread Pierre Massat
I use a subpatch that is very cpu-intensive, and the problem i have (as i already wrote in a previous post) is that it works fine for hours on certains days, and on some others it can start freaking out right away. This seems to be closely related to cpu load, since the load is always higher than

[PD] process control: startup priority/cpu weirdness?

2010-08-16 Thread Damian Stewart
hi Pd/piksel, apologies for cross-posting, and for off-topicness, but i need an answer kind of quick and i figure these channels will get a fastest response :-) so i'm trying to start up my openFrameworks ofxPd app on my beagleboard, running Ubuntu 10.04. if i start it manually as a normal

Re: [PD] Object List (was: Re: [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual)

2010-08-16 Thread João Pais
Here's an object list I dynamically created, relying on the PDDP tags that I added to each patch. http://puredata.info/Members/jwilkes/object-list/view It makes use of pddp/helplink (although I'm finding that for objects that all share a common help patch, like [cos] and [sin], helplink doesn't

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi IOhannes, thanks a lot for your help. it seems like a missed the information about the exact version of Gem. It's 0.92.3 (Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100601) we need to know at least which backends are enabled on your system (you get that information the first time you create a

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/16/2010 02:29 AM, John Harrison wrote: I don't have problems with codec performance in ubuntu 10.04. I would try playing the videos with mplayer, totem and/or vlc to see if the performance problem is a codec one. They play fine in totem; they seem to consume about 50% of each processor

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Olivier Baudu
Hi Just to say I have the same problem. (Pd version 0.42.5-extended-rc5 // Ubuntu 10.04) My avi file is in XVID MPEG-4. I can read it with VLC and others players but with [pix_film] it's slow like Matteo've described it. If there's nothing below [pix_film] it's still slow. 2010/8/16 Matteo

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi On 2010-08-16 12:30, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi IOhannes, thanks a lot for your help. it seems like a missed the information about the exact version of Gem. It's 0.92.3 (Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100601) thanks. we need to know at least which backends are enabled on

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Olivier Baudu
If there's nothing below [pix_film] it's still slow. I would say... If there's nothing below [pix_film] the CPU is stil at 100%... :-p 2010/8/16 Olivier Baudu lamouraupeu...@gmail.com Hi Just to say I have the same problem. (Pd version 0.42.5-extended-rc5 // Ubuntu 10.04) My avi file is in

Re: [PD] recording GEM output weird framerate

2010-08-16 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Thanks Cyrille, I made different tests and I noticed what you said about the fps, that's a very good tip. Besides, I realized that I can gain 5/6 fps moving the gemwin in another workspace (different from the one I actually see). M On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 2:44 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net

Re: [PD] exact meaning of netsend outlet

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/13/2010 06:06 PM, Peter Plessas wrote: Dear list, wondering what the exact meaning of the outlet of [netreceive] in TCP mode is: Does it indicate whether Pd through the OS was able to open a port or does it indicate if a TCP packet arrived at the destination? Seems you meant the

Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: [piksel] videojack

2010-08-16 Thread Pagano, Patrick
cool From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of ydego...@gmail.com [ydego...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 1:46 PM To: PD List Subject: [PD] Fwd: Re: [piksel] videojack ___

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/16/2010 12:46 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: I guess if only these are enabled it is because no more are available on the system, do I guess right? actually it means, that the version of Gem you are using has been compiled with only these 2 backends. Ok I guessed wrong :) I got the

[PD] [SOLVED] process control: startup priority/cpu weirdness?

2010-08-16 Thread Damian Stewart
solved - on ubuntu or any other system without inittab, the solution is to edit (eg) /etc/init/ttyS2.conf and change where ttyS2 is one of the ttys - in my case, it's the built-in serial connection on the beagleboard. exec /sbin/getty 115200 ttyS2 to something like: exec /sbin/getty -n -l

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/16/2010 12:46 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: however, from your backend list i learn, that your h.264 file is decoded using libquicktime (since libmpeg3 won't). you could try to play back the movie with the command line player lqtplay (part of the quicktime-x11utils). see if this one

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
One curious thing is that totem and lqtplay seem to distribute the load among the two CPUs (I guess one thread is reading/decoding and another one is rendering the image), with a load of approximately 50% each; while GEM is consuming 100% of one CPU and less than 5-10% on the other one. Is it

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: They play fine in totem; they seem to consume about 50% of each processor (if the System Monitor is to be trusted); I wouldn't expect that much but it's probably normal and at least they play smoothly. In pix_movie they eat 100% of one processor

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Can you put it in slow motion (play at a lesser fps than what's indicated by the file) and confirm that below a certain wanted fps, it starts to take radically less real time per logical time ? that should be when it stops skipping frames. oops,

Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-16 Thread patrick
yes pix_opencv, thx for that by the way! of course, if you want you can link the video, i can share the patch too, but it's really a clone of your example (also the patch have network stuff for the voice recognition). it works well for 2d positioning, but for 3d i didn't found an open source

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] GridFlow 9.10

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: It's not just an attempt, it's the future. (but for Cancel/Apply/Ok, it requires -lib ggee from pd-extended) now doesn't require -lib ggee, as it uses the new [gf/tk_button] in 9.11. That way you could just send a clear message to that subpatch

Re: [PD] GEM: pix_film terribly slow in Ubuntu

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/16/2010 05:37 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: If a movie decoding induces frame skipping, the frame skipping consumes a lot more CPU than the normal decoding. I've seen this happen in MAX as well. The slowness and high CPU consumption happens even with auto 1: shouldn't frame skipping

[PD] I wanna sing like Paris

2010-08-16 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi, I've been thinking of writing a pd version of autotune, but before i get started i m wondering if anybody as ever tried doing this? I m assuming they're making a ton of money selling it, so there 's probably not much information available as to how it actually works, but i guess Miller

Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-16 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
patrick wrote: yes pix_opencv, thx for that by the way! of course, if you want you can link the video, i can share the patch too, but it's really a clone of your example (also the patch have network stuff for the voice recognition). it works well for 2d positioning, but for 3d i didn't found

Re: [PD] I wanna sing like Paris

2010-08-16 Thread mik
Op 16-08-10 18:21, Pierre Massat schreef: but i guess Miller Puckette's Phase vocoder example could be a good starting point. Or this: http://web.mit.edu/tbaran/www/autotalent.html m ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] 0.42.5-extended-rc5, entering number values with keyboard

2010-08-16 Thread Johnny Ferguson
On 08/16/2010 05:05 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-08-16 10:44, Johnny Ferguson wrote: Hi, I've seen in many pd guides that it is possible to use the keyboard to enter values into number and symbol atoms. I've tried clicking, double-clicking, and I can't seem to enter values with my

Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-16 Thread Johnny Ferguson
On 08/16/2010 11:40 AM, patrick wrote: yes pix_opencv, thx for that by the way! of course, if you want you can link the video, i can share the patch too, but it's really a clone of your example (also the patch have network stuff for the voice recognition). it works well for 2d positioning, but

Re: [PD] 0.42.5-extended-rc5, entering number values with keyboard

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/16/2010 07:16 PM, Johnny Ferguson wrote: so: - click on the numberbox - notice that nothing has changed - type the number - notice that the numbers appear in the numberbox as you type them - hit return - notice that the number will be sent out What a coincidence that you're talking

[PD] prepending osc messages with a tag

2010-08-16 Thread Peter Plessas
Dear List, how to prepend an OSC message with a (ideally settable) tag? [/sheep 4 | | | [magic-object /animal] | | resulting in: [/animal/sheep 4 A normal [prepend] does not work as it includes a whitespace. A [makefilename] will not work with OSC messages of varying length and content.

[PD] dislocated cursor on comments

2010-08-16 Thread Eduardo Patricio
Hi all, I don't know if it's a known bug or not. But I found that if I use accents like '^' in my comments and I want to make some later corrections (deleting a letter, typing more etc.)the cursor appears dislocated. I'm running Pd-0.42.5-extended-rc4-macosx104-i386 on OSX 10.6.5. Am I

[PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, I've found out that making a float grow and grow and grow it eventually reaches a value that is displayed in number boxes as +Inf. Then if I multiply that number by 0 I get a value that is displayed in a number box as NaN. Is this expected behaviour? If so i guess infinities and NaN

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Here's a test patch. Inf and NaN seem to be treated almost correctly (except NaN is displayed as -nan), but not all mathematical operation that should generate them actually do (indeed it seems you can only get Inf by overflow) On 08/16/2010 07:59 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Hi, I've

Re: [PD] prepending osc messages with a tag

2010-08-16 Thread Roman Haefeli
Check attached patch. Rename it to fit your needs. Roman On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 19:39 +0200, Peter Plessas wrote: Dear List, how to prepend an OSC message with a (ideally settable) tag? [/sheep 4 | | | [magic-object /animal] | | resulting in: [/animal/sheep 4 A normal

Re: [PD] dislocated cursor on comments

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Eduardo Patricio wrote: I don't know if it's a known bug or not. But I found that if I use accents like '^' in my comments and I want to make some later corrections (deleting a letter, typing more etc.)the cursor appears dislocated. I'm running

[PD] on mouse over

2010-08-16 Thread Ariane stolfi
Hi, does anybody know if theres an object that can recognize the mouse over it? It could be to turn of and on a toogle, without have to click. I know that this is possible to do in a gemwindow, but its possible to do also in the main window? thanks a

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
On 16/08/10 18:59, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: Is this expected behaviour? Yes. IEEE floating point (used by most common CPUs, though GPUs might not support all features) is a bit warty. If so i guess infinities and NaN have been recently introduced, haven't they? No. But Pd tries to

Re: [PD] on mouse over

2010-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-08-16 20:32, Ariane stolfi wrote: Hi, does anybody know if theres an object that can recognize the mouse over it? It could be to turn of and on a toogle, without have to click. I know that this is possible to do in a gemwindow, but its possible to do also in the main window?

[PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
Hi, This has probably been discussed, but I still cannot search the archives with google. Whenever I try to use a [wrap] object, I get the error: error: New imcompatible [wrap] object. For a backwards-compatible version, use [zexy/wrap] What does that mean? The [wrap] object does

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Andy Farnell
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:44:52 +0100 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org wrote: Pd [/] guards against division by 0 by outputting 0 instead of +infinity, -infinity or NotANumber (depending on the sign of the left argument). The reason why NaN and (to a lesser extent?) infinities

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/16/2010 08:44 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: If so i guess infinities and NaN have been recently introduced, haven't they? No. But Pd tries to guard against them. Ok, that's why I had never seen them. Pd [/] guards against division by 0 by outputting 0 instead of +infinity, The

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i have searched the entire externals/ directory for imcompatible but cannot find it. It's an annoyance found in (the core of) Pd-extended 42, in pd/src/x_arithmetic.c. It prompted me to create a clone of this functionality just to avoid this

Re: [PD] on mouse over

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Ariane stolfi wrote: does anybody know if theres an object that can recognize the mouse over it? It could be to turn of and on a toogle, without have to click. I know that this is possible to do in a gemwindow, but its possible to do also in the main window? you can use

Re: [PD] Object List (was: Re: [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual)

2010-08-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 8/16/10, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Object List (was: Re: [PD] [FM Discuss] Portuguese translation of the PD manual) To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc:

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Andy Farnell wrote: Yep, there's a few synthesis techniques like 1/1+cos(x^n) eee, do you mean 1/(1+cos(pow(x,n))), or do you mean 1/(1+pow(cos(x),n)) ? and then, why would it want a zero there ? Not sure to what extent it's still true but NaN used to royally screw up

[PD] Res: on mouse over

2010-08-16 Thread Eduardo Patricio
De: Ariane stolfi arianesto...@gmail.com Para: PD list pd-list@iem.at Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 16 de Agosto de 2010 15:32:43 Assunto: [PD] on mouse over Hi, does anybody know if theres an object that can recognize the mouse over it? It could be to turn of and

Re: [PD] on mouse over

2010-08-16 Thread Ariane stolfi
thanks for the answers, as I can see it can be done with mouse coordinates, but it would be nicer if it was something that could be dragable. I want to make one object to play each chord when the mouse is over, and to be able to select one scale for each music by placing the objects together

Re: [PD] on mouse over

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Ariane stolfi wrote: as I can see it can be done with mouse coordinates, but it would be nicer if it was something that could be dragable. I want to make one object to play each chord when the mouse is over, and to be able to select one scale for each music by placing the

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/16/2010 09:20 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: However there seem to be some inconsistency: 5/4 returns 0 (as I was used to), not +inf. 5/4 is not a division by 0, it's a division by 4. Sorry I meant 5/0 and then, if it were a division by

[PD] FM Synthese in Pure Data

2010-08-16 Thread hghoyer
Hi, I try to understand the FM synthesis with Pure Data. A simple FM synthesis is understandable.But what about a more complex FM synthesis? I once created a simple patch. Can someone tell me if that is really FM synthesis? Or I do something wrong? Dear .hg complex_fm.pd Description: Binary

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: I think in this cases the limit is said to be infinity (without sign), meaning that being y=f(x), Not all number systems have a single infinity. standard floats have a split infinity. In math, the usual Extended Reals have a split infinity, but

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Matteo Sisti Sette
On 08/17/2010 12:45 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: It's a common source of disagreement. Eventually, any system of rules for handling infinity will fail at one point. Any? Or only those that try to _split_ the infinity into a positive and a negative one?

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 16, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i have searched the entire externals/ directory for imcompatible but cannot find it. It's an annoyance found in (the core of) Pd-extended 42, in pd/src/ x_arithmetic.c. It prompted me

Re: [PD] Infinite and NaN float values?

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: On 08/17/2010 12:45 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: It's a common source of disagreement. Eventually, any system of rules for handling infinity will fail at one point. Any? Or only those that try to _split_ the infinity into a positive and a negative

Re: [PD] dislocated cursor on comments

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Eduardo Patricio wrote: I don't know if it's a known bug or not. But I found that if I use accents like '^' in my comments and I want to make some later corrections (deleting a letter, typing more etc.)the cursor

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Personally, its much more annoying if you have used [wrap] in your patch, then your patch mysteriously breaks. Hence the error. I could be worded better, so I'm updating it. can you make it a warn() instead, so that people can use Find

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Personally, its much more annoying if you have used [wrap] in your patch, then your patch mysteriously breaks. Hence the error. I could be worded better, so I'm updating it. can you

Re: [PD] dislocated cursor on comments

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I'm betting that there won't be a 'pd-extended stable release' with proper UTF-8 handling until late 2011. That's why I made this hack last year. UTF-8 is slated to become an official part

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: a broken wrap is really an error in my opinion. Anyway, [gf/wrap] is only 7 short lines of code, so why bother with this discussion. \class GFWrap : FObject { float b; \constructor (float f=1) {b=f;} \decl 1 float

Re: [PD] dislocated cursor on comments

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I'm betting that there won't be a 'pd-extended stable release' with proper UTF-8 handling until late 2011. That's why I made this hack last

Re: [PD] make me

2010-08-16 Thread patrick
yes, faceapi by seeing machines is closed source (there's a non-commercial license with limitations) and guess what yves, only for windows :) basically what is missing from opencv is an 6 DOF Head Tracking. à+ pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
On 17/08/10 01:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Personally, its much more annoying if you have used [wrap] in your patch, then your patch mysteriously breaks. Hence the error. I could be

[PD] object that only outputs list when it changes?

2010-08-16 Thread Johnny Ferguson
I'm wondering if anyone knows of an object that will only pass on a list if it changes. I'm sure I could whip something up, but I'd rather not if it exists. -Johnny ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] object that only outputs list when it changes?

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Johnny Ferguson wrote: I'm wondering if anyone knows of an object that will only pass on a list if it changes. I'm sure I could whip something up, but I'd rather not if it exists. [t a a] | | | [list.==] | | [spigot] using [list.==] from GridFlow™. _ _ __ ___

Re: [PD] FM Synthese in Pure Data

2010-08-16 Thread Johnny Ferguson
On 08/16/2010 05:57 PM, hghoyer wrote: Hi, I try to understand the FM synthesis with Pure Data. A simple FM synthesis is understandable.But what about a more complex FM synthesis? I once created a simple patch. Can someone tell me if that is really FM synthesis? Or I do something wrong? Dear

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 16, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: On 17/08/10 01:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 8:30 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Personally, its much more annoying if you have used [wrap] in your patch,

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: The pd-extended users in 3 who want to make patches with [wrap] work with both puredata and pd-extended should have known that they were using an extension, but sadly I don't think that people aren't aware that pd extended bundles a lot of

Re: [PD] new wrap incompatible object error

2010-08-16 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 16, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: The pd-extended users in 3 who want to make patches with [wrap] work with both puredata and pd-extended should have known that they were using an extension, but sadly I don't think

Re: [PD] object that only outputs list when it changes?

2010-08-16 Thread Johnny Ferguson
On 08/16/2010 10:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Mon, 16 Aug 2010, Johnny Ferguson wrote: I'm wondering if anyone knows of an object that will only pass on a list if it changes. I'm sure I could whip something up, but I'd rather not if it exists. [t a a] | | | [list.==] | | [spigot] using

Re: [PD] object that only outputs list when it changes?

2010-08-16 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 17 Aug 2010, Johnny Ferguson wrote: Awesome external. I've coded up an abstraction to filter out repeated lists. See attached. What are you trying to achieve using [moses] and the two messageboxes ? I don't understand. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _