Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:14:57PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote: nice: pd -jack -font-face Inconsolata -font-size 12 It seems that this will just make all your patches default to a font size of 12 (check with Edit-Font), it will not make your 10px font become bigger. Ciao -- Frank

Re: [PD] tk version weirdness with 0.43test2

2010-08-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 09:00:31PM +0200, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: i guess this is because frank (and cyrille, btw) used miller's build system (cd pd/src; ./configure; make) rather than the new shiny automake system (cd pd; ./autogen.sh; ./configure; make) Yeah, indeed. I think, the

Re: [PD] signal objects inside dynamically created abstractions?

2010-08-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:00:38AM +0200, Peter Plessas wrote: Pd's dsp is switched on. Creating an abstraction inside a subpatch by internal pd messages like [obj 10 10 abstraction The tilde objects inside this abstraction do not work unless Pd's dsp is toggled (off and on again). If I

Re: [PD] tk version weirdness with 0.43test2

2010-08-21 Thread cyrille henry
hello, Le 20/08/2010 21:00, IOhannes m zmölnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/20/2010 08:27 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI: you don't need Tcl/Tk -dev packages anymore, the GUI is now pure Tcl and no longer has a C component. What seems odd to me is

[PD] Window placement weirdness with 0.43test2

2010-08-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, now this weirdness is very weird: My window manager (openbox 3.4.11.1-1) places the windows of 0.43test2 in a completely different way than with previous versions of Pd, and unfortunatly in a vey unusable way. Plain File-New windows or [pd]-subpatch canvas windows are placed with the upper

Re: [PD] problem using [udpsend] from iemnet (or mrpeach) in a sub-process (with [pd~])

2010-08-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 23:54 +0200, Jack wrote: One remark : I am not sending 2 or 6 floats per message but 2 messages of 3 floats every frame (near every 20 ms). Yeah, I know, but I actually meant to propose to do so. Sending 20'000 times a triple message is what is causing high

Re: [PD] signal objects inside dynamically created abstractions?

2010-08-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 00:00 +0200, Peter Plessas wrote: Dear list, wondering about the following behavior: Pd's dsp is switched on. Creating an abstraction inside a subpatch by internal pd messages like [obj 10 10 abstraction The tilde objects inside this abstraction do not work unless

Re: [PD] problem using [udpsend] from iemnet (or mrpeach) in a sub-process (with [pd~])

2010-08-21 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 23:01 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote: Indeed, I can confirm it does not truncate audio signals to -1+1. Neither does Pd. Not that I have a good application for this in mind, but I find this valuable to know. Just like

Re: [PD] problem using [udpsend] from iemnet (or mrpeach) in a sub-process (with [pd~])

2010-08-21 Thread Jack
OK, i understand now, i will give it a try. Thanx again. ++ Jack Le samedi 21 août 2010 à 11:11 +0200, Roman Haefeli a écrit : On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 23:54 +0200, Jack wrote: One remark : I am not sending 2 or 6 floats per message but 2 messages of 3 floats every frame (near

[PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread tim vets
Hi list, Is there a way to put newlines in comments that stay there after closing and reopening a patch? I am unable to create a comment like: first line second line third line without it becoming: first line second line third line after reopening the patch. I pasted some text from elsewhere and

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:47:22PM +0200, tim vets wrote: Is there a way to put newlines in comments that stay there after closing and reopening a patch? Not that I know of. I pasted some text from elsewhere and don't want to have to break it up into 50 separate comments. Poor Tim ...

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread Max
While this might be a work around, 2010 one might expect of a graphic user interface that you can tear on a bounding box and the text is floating in it. feature request? this is from max5, the mouse was hovering over the square at the bottom right: inline: bounding_box.png m. Am 21.08.2010 um

[PD] Loading Gem's abstractions

2010-08-21 Thread Miha Tomšič
Hello! I am using pd 0.42-5 on Linux and yesterday I compiled Gem 0.92-3. I am very happy with new Gem, but I have some minor problems with loading Gem's abstractions. When loading gem/examples/02.advanced/12.Hsv.pd the abstraction objects [hsv2rgb] and [rgb2hsv] don't get loaded. I can get the

Re: [PD] problem using [udpsend] from iemnet (or mrpeach) in a sub-process (with [pd~])

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 23:01 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote: Indeed, I can confirm it does not truncate audio signals to -1+1. Neither does Pd. Not that I have a good application for this in mind, but I find

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread Martin Schied
Hi, you could use semicolons at the end of ech line as workaround. comment; line2; final line without semicolon. Martin tim vets wrote: Hi list, Is there a way to put newlines in comments that stay there after closing and reopening a patch? I am unable to create a comment like: first line

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, tim vets wrote: Hi list,Is there a way to put newlines in comments that stay there after closing and reopening a patch? I am unable to create a comment like: first line second line third line without it becoming: first line second line third line after reopening the

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread cyrille henry
hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) cheers Cyrille Le 20/08/2010 17:10, cyrille henry a écrit : hello, ./configure, make and sudo make install work as usually

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Frank Barknecht wrote: Maybe you can do some scripting outside of Pd to create the comment as a subpatch? I don't understand : why into a subpatch instead of the main patch ? _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal,

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Max wrote: While this might be a work around, 2010 one might expect of a graphic user interface that you can tear on a bounding box and the text is floating in it. feature request? I had that feature in jMax in 2001 and I had to leave it behind when I switched to Pd in

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: i think the problem is, that my full auoconf support patch (building on what hans had done) was not fully applied originally. in the meantime this has been fixed, at least in git. i cannot currently download the release tarball (due to network

[PD] small patch for [pdp_mix]

2010-08-21 Thread John Harrison
I just submitted 2 trivial patches for [pdp_mix]. Not sure if sevyves or somebody else needs to review/consider/submit: when crossfade is set to 1 for [pdp_mix], outlet should return exact copy of middle inlet. Instead [pdp_mix] still tries to mix the left and middle inlet, resulting

Re: [PD] Loading Gem's abstractions

2010-08-21 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/21/2010 03:20 PM, Miha Tomšič wrote: Hello! I am using pd 0.42-5 on Linux and yesterday I compiled Gem 0.92-3. I am very happy with new Gem, but I have some minor problems with loading Gem's abstractions. When loading gem/examples/02.advanced/12.Hsv.pd the abstraction objects

Re: [PD] pd books...

2010-08-21 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
hi. As far as I know, pd has only two books about itself (bang and loadbang) How come ? Is this only a userbase issue? having a pd [...] And also http://pd-tutorial.com since loadbang was already mentioned, i didn't reenumerate it. fgmasdr IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [PD] tk version weirdness with 0.43test2

2010-08-21 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/21/2010 10:20 AM, cyrille henry wrote: i guess this is because frank (and cyrille, btw) used miller's build system (cd pd/src; ./configure; make) rather than the new shiny automake system (cd pd; ./autogen.sh; ./configure; make) ok ok. with automake, i've got a new shiny error :

Re: [PD] pd books...

2010-08-21 Thread Martin Dupras
The University where I teach would gladly buy several copies of any PD book, and I know for sure that many students would buy such a book too. I am sure there are a number of other institutions who would too. I'm not saying that there is necessarily great demand, but there is some demand. Just

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
well, it looks different here. If I check the menu option, the boxes are not placed so well. I like the looks like this, Inconsolata 16 (that is our 12) and no *bold*: -font-face Inconsolata -font-size 16 -font-weight normal 2010/8/21 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org: Hi, On Fri, Aug 20, 2010

Re: [PD] pd books...

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Martin Dupras wrote: In my opinion, published books dealing with open-source subjects also contribute a perception that it is not just a fringe curiosity. What would you think of a book form of something such as the help files of GridFlow ? If only to achieve the double

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread Bernardo Barros
I wonder how much CPU is lost with this fancy max graphics. maybe not much, I don't know what technology they are using. Is it based on qt4 toolkit? 2010/8/21 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com: While this might be a work around, 2010 one might expect of a graphic user interface that you can tear

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Frank Barknecht wrote: I can fix the size difference by adding -font-size 12 to the startup options or probably by some tcl hacking, but actually I was hoping, that the GUI reqrite would finally allow me to avoid using startup options for basic GUI configuration and

Re: [PD] pd books...

2010-08-21 Thread Martin Dupras
The more books the better, in my err... book. (pun intended.) What follows is just my opinion. rantI think that books are really very helpful for a number of reasons, not least of which because they give you a chance to think more conceptually, away from the screen. That is a double-edged sword,

Re: [PD] newline in comment

2010-08-21 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/21/2010 07:31 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: I wonder how much CPU is lost with this fancy max graphics. maybe not much, I don't know what technology they are using. Is it based on qt4 toolkit? it's based on juce, which uses openGL to render graphics. mfgsdrd IOhannes signature.asc

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Inconsolata is an awesome font, by far the best fixed-font I've seen anywhere. That's why made Pd use it if it can find it. Otherwise it settles on what Tcl/Tk decides to call courier (see Tk font docs). set testfonts {Inconsolata Courier

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 14:08 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I'm not counting files. I'm reading the code, and even diffing the code, and the difference is about 2% of the C code of the server. That should not come as a surprise since that was a

Re: [PD] Font weirdness with 0.43test

2010-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Aug 21, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Inconsolata is an awesome font, by far the best fixed-font I've seen anywhere. That's why made Pd use it if it can find it. Otherwise it settles on what Tcl/Tk decides to call courier

Re: [PD] pd books...

2010-08-21 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010, Martin Dupras wrote: For something like GridFlow, I think it would be really, really great if there was a book which spent some time explaining how it works. I'd certainly buy that. I'd find it very hard to justify the purchase of a printer set of help files on their own.

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread Marco Donnarumma
mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.)

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is install somwhere else.) you should be able to tell [pd~] where Pd really lives with the message: [pd~ pddir

Re: [PD] Window placement weirdness with 0.43test2

2010-08-21 Thread Miller Puckette
I'm getting similar behavior using evilwm and hope to look into it :) Miller On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:28:06AM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hi, now this weirdness is very weird: My window manager (openbox 3.4.11.1-1) places the windows of 0.43test2 in a completely different way than with

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread Miller Puckette
... but at least the help window in Pd should work, however it's installed :) I don't understand at all the various scripts install Pd or I'd fix this :) M On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:09:11PM +0200, IOhannes zmölnig wrote: On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Can you post a test patch? .hc On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 21:03 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote: mm, I was going to write about the same issue. It might be OT, but the same happens here on pd-ext 42.5 rc5 - Ubuntu Jaunty - compiled M hello i've got probleme

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:48 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: Le 21/08/2010 22:09, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error : pd~: can't stat /usr/local/lib/pd/pd (pd is

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43 test 2 (first 'real' test version) released

2010-08-21 Thread cyrille henry
Le 22/08/2010 00:10, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 23:48 +0200, cyrille henry wrote: Le 21/08/2010 22:09, IOhannes zmölnig a écrit : On 08/21/2010 04:19 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello i've got probleme with pd~ when sending a start message, i've got an error :