Re: [PD] soundfiler is slow; readsf~ no filelength

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Here's the actual attachment... Le 2011-11-03 à 21:18:00, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : Le 2011-11-03 à 19:04:00, Samuel Burt a écrit : Thanks, Hans, but iemlib/soundfile_info is also giving me the error. soundfile_info_read-error: /filepath/growl.oeoeoe.01.aif is no RIFF-WAVE-file I made

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-11-04 Thread i go bananas
apple just rang me. as andy predicted, they are still being highly cagey and will not give a yes/no answer to me. grrr. however, what they told me, was to go part of the way through developer registration, so i could read the ios_program_standard_agreement, in which case i would find what i

Re: [PD] symbol2list leading zero

2011-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-11-03 at 17:54 -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2011-11-03 à 21:09:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : And it does not make so much sense to compare Pd/Max to anything outside of Pd/Max. Why ? You said (as it is like with any string-splitter outside of pd/max). I should have said

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Charles Goyard
Hi Hans, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Threading is not the only way to do concurrency. Think of all of those objects in your patch, they are all running in parallel. Yes, there's other ways than threading. ligthttpd and HAProxy are good examples of monolithic state machine that can serve

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-11-04 Thread Olivier B
2011/11/4 i go bananas hard@gmail.com apple just rang me. as andy predicted, they are still being highly cagey and will not give a yes/no answer to me. grrr. however, what they told me, was to go part of the way through developer registration, so i could read the

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread João Pais
I imagine if this were changed to tag the entire scalar and move it by tag, it would improve the performance quite a bit. that would be a revolution :) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread katja
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Oh, wow-- lines, polygons, and text of scalars get deleted and recreated every time they get moved.  This is what gets sent to the GUI for every motion event when dragging a scalar (in run mode here): .x291cf70.c

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread João Pais
because of the things explained by Mathieu and HC, it will never be perfect. but there are some small solutions that can try to avoid the problem: - don't have any graphical display: put your array in a [table] instead of an array, or in a subpatch where it's not showing - load all samples

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread katja
By coincidence I noticed an svn commit access request from Damian Stewart, back in 2008, where he proposes to 'implement multithreaded [soundfiler] read' (http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-12/012447.html). What has become of this? Is there any code from this project? [readsf~] and

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi all, have you had a look at this: http://grh.mur.at/software/sndfiler.html It used to work for me, although i haven't tried for a long time (that is, with current pd versions) gr~~~ Am 04.11.2011 um 11:26 schrieb katja: By coincidence I noticed an svn commit access request from Damian

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Fri, 2011-11-04 at 11:26 +0100, katja wrote: By coincidence I noticed an svn commit access request from Damian Stewart, back in 2008, where he proposes to 'implement multithreaded [soundfiler] read' (http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-12/012447.html). What has become of this?

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Pierre-Olivier Boulant
Hi, This seems to have been debated several times. It's one of those recurring subjects. If I had only one wish for Pd it would be to have a non blocking/low priority [soundfiler] alternative. I have the same trouble as mentioned. I have no graph for the tables, it's not a GUI issue. I

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread katja
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote: Hi all, have you had a look at this: http://grh.mur.at/software/sndfiler.html It used to work for me, although i haven't tried for a long time (that is, with current pd versions) gr~~~ Hi Thomas, Thanks for pointing to

[PD] sssad saving big messages to text files

2011-11-04 Thread berenger recoules
Hello list, I'm trying to use sssad to save content of a patch designed to be used with PdDroidParty. I understand the way it works for numbers and tables but is there a way to save a full message to a textfile ? but more precisely how to store several messages into the same textfile ? I want to

[PD] Mac OS X/PowerPC nightly builds are back

2011-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
After a pretty long hiatus, the Mac OS X/PowerPC builds are back. The plan is to have a fully supported PowerPC build for at least this release. Gem is currently not included in the Mac OS X builds, but will be again soon, but otherwise, please try this build and let me know how it works for

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Olivier B lamouraupeu...@gmail.com To: i go bananas hard@gmail.com Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; PD-List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [PD] expr alternative 2011/11/4 i go bananas hard@gmail.com apple

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 5:23 AM Subject: Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued? On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com

Re: [PD] symbol2list leading zero

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 08:56:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : You said (as it is like with any string-splitter outside of pd/max). I should have said it more precisely: It doesn't make sense to compare Pd/Max with anything outside of Pd/Max regarding string-splitting, because 'just' splitting symbols

Re: [PD] Osx Lion PD-extended problem

2011-11-04 Thread hans w. koch
sorry for chiming in very late, but i ran into the exact same problem today on a students computer while giving a pd-workshop in seoul. the solution was quite funny: after a lot of head scratching, it dawned on me, that he might have pirated software from a certain company installed and in

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 16:28:00, i go bananas a écrit : 7.1    Delivery of Freely Available Licensed Applications via the App Store; Certificates If Your Application qualifies as a Licensed Application, it is eligible for delivery to end-users via the App Store by Apple and/or an Apple Subsidiary.

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 07:16:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : I'll put up $200 for a 3-clause-BSD-licensed [expr] family replacement where 3 / 2 = 1.5 3/2 = 1.5 ? Is that another « private joke » ? Olivier a écrit : Just to say that, even if my patchs are published under GPL, as I definitely need my

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Olivier B lamouraupeu...@gmail.com; i go bananas hard@gmail.com; PD-List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [PD] expr alternative Le

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 11:26:00, katja a écrit : By coincidence I noticed an svn commit access request from Damian Stewart, back in 2008, where he proposes to 'implement multithreaded [soundfiler] read' But (multi)threaded [soundfiler] had already been implemented in 2005 (or 2004 ?) by Tim

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 11:50:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : The problem with the '[readsf~]-in-an-upsampled-patch' approach is that you cannot know how fast you can do it without interrupting audio. Also you cannot really fine-tune it since you can only set it to a speed to any power of two. Ideally, a

Re: [PD] symbol2list leading zero

2011-11-04 Thread rolf meesters
with trialerror i came up with a quite complicated patch for the task to convert a MAC addres in the form 00-ab-7d- etc into it's equivalent without the '-' character. any comment is welcomed rolf #N canvas 104 217 569 343 10; #X obj -94 16 symbol2list -; #X obj -75 125 makefilename %.2s; #X

Re: [PD] symbol2list leading zero

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 17:44:00, rolf meesters a écrit : with trialerror i came up with a quite complicated patch for the task to convert a MAC addres in the form 00-ab-7d- etc into it's equivalent without the '-' character. Two solutions, a long one using [gf/l2s] and [gf/s2l] (which Roman calls « 

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 07:37:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : Functionally there is no difference between altering a polygon's shape and the way I am moving it. In Tk, to change the coordinates of a canvas-item, you don't have to delete it and recreate it. There's always a canvas-method named « coords 

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: katja katjavet...@gmail.com; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: katja katjavet...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array Le 2011-11-04 à 11:26:00, katja a écrit : By coincidence

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 10:37:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : It seems like it does redraw stuff between the delete and create for a scalar with enough canvas items associated with it.  For example, if you make a ds array where each element is a little 10x10 rectangle and plot it with an array size

[PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread katja
-- Forwarded message -- From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:06 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array To: pd-...@iem.at On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: I don't find anything

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-04 à 10:51:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : Well if it works it should go into Pd-extended 0.43.  But if it goes into Pd-extended 0.43, who will maintain it if there are bugs? What power would be granted to such a maintainer to ensure that the bugfixes do get in pd-extended binaries 

[PD] Rép : PDGST - no pix_gst2pix... and building Gem 0.93 with mac OS 10.6

2011-11-04 Thread x.garnier
Good evening, I've downloaded Gem 0.93.1 but I didn't succeed in installing it. I've tried to : - download the last version of pd-extended but it's 0.42.5 and it's mine (which also means that I have Gem 0.92). - get some informations here :

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: katja katjavet...@gmail.com; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array Le

Re: [PD] expr alternative

2011-11-04 Thread Andy Farnell
I'll pitch EU 50. (while its still worth anything) And politely encourage RjDj to dig in too. I've made my feelings clear enough about Apple. On Fri, 4 Nov 2011 09:29:59 +0100 Olivier B lamouraupeu...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/11/4 i go bananas hard@gmail.com apple just rang me.

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy is discontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Ico, What not just use the displacefn to do the move with tags? Then we wouldn't need to change that core struct. .hc Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: The said changes are in pre-git tarballs. I think they are also listed in the changelog under a specific date which should make

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2011, at 2:08 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2011-11-04 à 10:51:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : Well if it works it should go into Pd-extended 0.43. But if it goes into Pd-extended 0.43, who will maintain it if there are bugs? What power would be granted to such a maintainer to

Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

2011-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Interruption of audio / Loading sound into array

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy isdiscontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Because after studying the code it looked like a difficult thing to pull off. This is because the regular displacefn is used for initial posting of objects which is absolute in nature while displacewithtag is relative, so the two don’t play very nice. HTH Ico _ From:

Re: [PD] how to capture window-related mouse-events when toxy isdiscontinued?

2011-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The problem with changing t_widgetbehavior is that it breaks binary compatibililty, I think. That makes it a pain to manage the transition. Personally, I think it'd be worthwhile to use the struct as it. Or really, I'd like to see bigger changes to offload more stuff to the GUI, like mouse