Re: [PD] get console messages within patch

2011-11-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 02:25, Vincent Kaschner wrote: As a beginner in Pd, I'm also wondering what that means... Hey IOhannes, thank you, but could you please explain it a bit more in detail? I am not a complete newbie, but not so much into the

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 02:43, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I made a patch awhile back that added a get method to pd: [; pd get version rcv-name( sends version $major $minor $bugfix to rcv-name [...] wouldn't it be easier to use a syntax like [get rcvname

Re: [PD] get console messages within patch

2011-11-17 Thread tim vets
2011/11/17 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 02:25, Vincent Kaschner wrote: As a beginner in Pd, I'm also wondering what that means... Hey IOhannes, thank you, but could you please explain it a bit more in detail? I

Re: [PD] get console messages within patch

2011-11-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 09:53, tim vets wrote: How do I get past send: Connection refused (111)? by re-reading my original email and adding a receiver ([netreceive]) within Pd, that listens on the port (and protocol) you specified with pdsend. fgmasdr

[PD] [PD-announce] [pd-annunce] soñando satelites, interactive installation using puredata

2011-11-17 Thread Husk 00
Hi list, I just want to present to you my last work Soñando satelites [Dreaming Satellites]. It uses puredata (thanks to Alberto Zin among others), Din - din is noise, and gpredict with a patch from David Pello. cheers husk Soñando Satelites is a real time satellite sound installation that

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread katja
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Are there Pd attributes other than version and dsp status that would be nice to make gettable? Very useful! I could think of these, to start with: [; pd get tcl-version rcv-name( sends tcl-version $ to rcv-name [;

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 13:14 +0100, katja wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Are there Pd attributes other than version and dsp status that would be nice to make gettable? Very useful! I could think of these, to start with: [; pd get

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Andy Farnell
How about [; pd get self rcv-name( Dumps itself. Once I wanted to get Pd patches to print themselves, can't remember how it was solved now, but the above would have been quite clear. On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:14:58 +0100 katja katjavet...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:43 AM,

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd How about [; pd get self rcv-name( Not sure I understand this one-- what comes out of [r rcv-name]

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Patrice Colet
Hello, would this method provide patch window size and position? [; pd get size pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( [; pd get pos pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( Colet Patrice - Mail original - De: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com À: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Jeudi 17 Novembre 2011 02:43:08

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I think that belongs in the canvas get method: [; pd-mpatch.pd get etc.( -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.fr To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com; pd-list pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [PD] get

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 14:53 +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello, would this method provide patch window size and position? [; pd get size pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( [; pd get pos pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( How would pd know which canvas you mean? Wouldn't it make more sense to ask the canvas

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 14:53, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello, would this method provide patch window size and position? [; pd get size pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( [; pd get pos pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( now we are getting close to why i think using get rcvname ...

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 15:09, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-11-17 14:53, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello, would this method provide patch window size and position? [; pd get size pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( [; pd get pos pd-mpatch.pd rcv_name( now we are

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 15:07, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think that belongs in the canvas get method: [; pd-mpatch.pd get etc.( what would that return if you have multiple instances of the mpatch abstraction? fgmadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 13:14, katja wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Are there Pd attributes other than version and dsp status that would be nice to make gettable? Very useful! I could think of these,

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread katja
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: I made a patch awhile back that added a get method to pd And considering the set method, which is now implicit like in [; pd dsp 1(, it would be nice to have: [; pd samplerate samplerate( Katja

[PD] pd-gui update rate

2011-11-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all I would like some GUI elements in a patch to refresh with the highest rate possible, but at the same time also as economic (in terms of CPU usage) as possible. How can I know at which rate a Pd canvas is updated so that I can adjust the gui update accordingly? Matju directed me to the

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 15:12 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2011-11-17 15:07, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think that belongs in the canvas get method: [; pd-mpatch.pd get etc.( what would that return if you have multiple instances of the mpatch abstraction? I think the most

[PD] disable autogain from pseye-cam in pix_video

2011-11-17 Thread Matthias Moos
Hello guys, this is my very first post to this list... anyone knows how can i disable autogain from my pseye-cam in pd, when using pix_video? specs: macam-driver version Version 0.9.2(+4)(+3) pd extended 0.42.5 osx snow leopard, macbook core 2 Duo 2.66 GHz, 4 GB Ram Thanks for any Help matt

Re: [PD] disable autogain from pseye-cam in pix_video

2011-11-17 Thread Peter Venus
Hello and welcome! you can try opening the camera-dialog by sending a dialog message to [pix_video] ... |  [dialog( | / [pix_video] | ... peter Von: Matthias Moos feuerb...@gmail.com Gesendet: 17.11.2011 15:36:14 An: pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 15:07, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I think that belongs

[PD] send pd-console output to terminal in osx

2011-11-17 Thread olsen
Heho anyone know how to get the pd-console output into a terminal on OSX? Pd-extended is openend from /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS/ thanks in advance ø -- ETs DNA will not be televised http://hasa-labs.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] pd-gui update rate

2011-11-17 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-17 à 15:18:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit : Matju directed me to the respective parts in the source code, but I was not able to make any sense out of it. I said something wrong near the end because I spoke too quick. sched_tick is not a main loop, it's the common part between the big

Re: [PD] send pd-console output to terminal in osx

2011-11-17 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-17 à 16:56:00, olsen a écrit : anyone know how to get the pd-console output into a terminal on OSX? Pd-extended is openend from /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS/ thanks in advance When starting the macho, add the -stderr option. You can also put that in your .plist,

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:33 AM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-11-17 02:43, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I made a patch

Re: [PD] send pd-console output to terminal in osx

2011-11-17 Thread Matthias Kronlachner
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr or /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd-extended -stderr Am 17.11.11 16:56, schrieb olsen: Heho anyone know how to get the pd-console output into a terminal on OSX? Pd-extended is openend from

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Miller Puckette
Unfortunately I already used the name get for something else but I agree this should be an object, maybe 'get-info or even just info. It could get and/or set info about the canvas it's in as well as about other canvases (by name) and Pd globally. cheers Miller On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at

Re: [PD] Troubles running Pd-0.43.1test5 on Windows XP

2011-11-17 Thread Miller Puckette
Please feel free to make reports like this! They add to my general understanding of what's happening to people even if I can never get to the bottom of something :) cheers Miller On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 08:41:22AM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 23:55 +0100, Roman Haefeli

Re: [PD] send pd-console output to terminal in osx

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr | pdsend /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd-extended is just the GUI .hc On Nov 17, 2011, at 11:27 AM, Matthias Kronlachner wrote: /Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd -stderr or

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I like info too, maybe [pd info(. I like Jonathan's ordering because it also makes it easy to have a default receive symbol, so : [;pd info( would dump all the info to: [receive pd] | [route info] Then you could also specify specific things to request: [; pd info dsp( would dump:

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd I like info too, maybe [pd info(.  I like

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Miller Puckette
This leads to an interesting larger design issue. I've so far resisted the idea of using send/receive as a back channel for getting return values because of the unreadablity of the resulting patch. So, for instance, samplerate~ just puts the sample rate on its outlet. The other way, assuming

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-17 à 08:43:00, bra...@subnet.at a écrit : maybe PID, if possible, would be great There's [gf/getpid]. http://gridflow.ca/help/gf/getpid-help.html __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 -

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's a great point, just an [info] object makes a lot of sense. [dsp( | [info] | [route dsp] | [1( Then there could also be [pd-gui], but unfortunately not [pd]. But about the [textfile] example, it seems to be that the second outlet could be used for general meta information. This is

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread brandt
oh...thank you yours sincerely :-) der.brandt Zitat von Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: Le 2011-11-17 à 08:43:00, bra...@subnet.at a écrit : maybe PID, if possible, would be great There's [gf/getpid]. http://gridflow.ca/help/gf/getpid-help.html

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-17 à 15:15:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : which tcl-version is reported for pd -nogui? or rather, how are non-existing attributes reported? symbol none symbol unknown float -1 float 0 etc. whatever float or symbol best fits the situation.

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-11-17 à 15:10:00, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : Le 2011-11-17 à 15:15:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : which tcl-version is reported for pd -nogui? or rather, how are non-existing attributes reported? symbol none symbol unknown float -1 float 0 etc. whatever float or symbol best fits

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread katja
Say you'd have a [global] object, with a getter and / or setter for things like dsp, samplerate, version etc. Obviously, some things are gettable but not settable, like version or path/to/pd, and some things are not even gettable in certain circumstances, like IOhannes pointed out. The object

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hm, how about this: [info symbol] where symbol is pd for pd, an array name, subpatch or abstraction name, the receive symbol of an iemgui, or no args for this canvas the only inlet takes: get attribute to output an attribute value(s) message get to get a sequence of all attribute value(s)

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: katja katjavet...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 3:33 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd Say you'd have a [global] object, with a getter and / or setter for things like dsp, samplerate, version etc.Obviously,

[PD] Loaded event

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Hans, I'm close to finishing a revision of my tooltips patch.  To properly loadbang a canvas tip I need something like a Loaded event, but one that tells me when the a pd patch window has finally finished being drawn by Tk.  Loaded seems to trigger once the procedure for creating

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Mike Moser-Booth
Would the device names and numbers from the Audio and MIDI settings be considered gettable Pd attributes? If so, that would be awesome. .mmb On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: I made a patch awhile back that added a get method to pd: [; pd get version

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread katja
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: I think [thispatcher] would be analogous to [sendcanvas], or, a pointer to the head of a glist, which you can get with [pointer] and use its send-window method to send messages to it.  My canvas get method patch makes

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mike Moser-Booth mmoserbo...@gmail.com To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd Would the device names and numbers from the Audio and MIDI settings

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd T his leads to an interesting larger design issue. 

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for

Re: [PD] Loaded event

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's a tricky one. I think that Loaded should be sent when the patch is all done, so the current situation is a bug. Since the drawing commands come from 'pd', 'pd' would have to trigger the Loaded event. I forget how its triggered now. Definitely avoid 'update', I recently refactored my

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for

Re: [PD] Loaded event

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loaded event That's a tricky one.  I think that Loaded should be sent when the

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 05:21:29AM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd How about [; pd get self

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:45:57PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hm, how about this: [info symbol] where symbol is pd for pd, an array name, subpatch or abstraction name, the receive symbol of an iemgui, or no args for this canvas the only inlet takes: get attribute to output an

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for Pd On Thu, Nov 17, 2011

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Thursday,

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 8:43 PM, Chris McCormick wrote: On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:45:57PM -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hm, how about this: [info symbol] where symbol is pd for pd, an array name, subpatch or abstraction name, the receive symbol of an iemgui, or no args for this canvas

[PD] [PD-announce] NYC Patching Circle this Tuesday 11/22, 6-9pm

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Sofy is hosting us again at the new space, 319 Scholes, in East Williamsburgh, right around the corner from 3rd Ward. We'll also be there the next month on Tuesday 12/20. Join us to patch your way to delicious turkey or tofurky or whatever you're going to eat!

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:17 PM Subject: Re: [PD] get method for

Re: [PD] get method for Pd

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:58 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu; pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at; IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November

Re: [PD] Loaded event

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loaded event That's a

Re: [PD] Loaded event

2011-11-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loaded event On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: -

Re: [PD] Loaded event

2011-11-17 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Loaded event On