wow, this is great!
thanks
Cyrille
Le 21/01/2013 02:57, Miller Puckette a écrit :
Hi all -
I just now tried again (after some months of not fooling with it) and
got audio in+out working with no trouble at all... from a clean and
recently updated Raspian install (i.e. 'apt-get update; apt-get
On Son, 2013-01-20 at 21:30 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
If you want to have a look on your own, open chat.pd from netpd and
click the 'unpatch' button. Here, on Ubuntu 12.04.1 with pd-l2ork from
yesterday it immediately starts eating memory.
You can download it from here:
Robert Grah wrote:
any ideas? can you give me an hint in which logfiles i have to look to maybe
figure out what the problem causes?
Look in /var/log/Xorg.log.
I've had something similar with some xwidgets applications related to some
bug with intel video and/or unaccelerated video.
The crash
Hi Miller,
You made my day!
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/21 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu
Hi all -
I just now tried again (after some months of not fooling with it) and
got audio in+out working with no trouble at all... from a clean and
recently updated Raspian install (i.e. 'apt-get update;
Tried the 0.44.0 build from your website. It has the same issue with
subnormal values. My test patch is with [lop~]. If inf or nan is fed
into [lop~], these 'values' keep circulating in the object, it can no
longer process normal signal values.
I also tried my reverb stuff with specific compiler
On 19/01/13 20:20, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On 01/19/2013 01:56 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 01/18/2013 22:31, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
I would love it if someone started this since it would greatly help with the
goal of splitting the GUI from Pd itself. And of course I'd help
Pierre, the way how denormals can impact performance on the Pi, is
whenever a an object with feedback delay (IIR filter, reverb etc.)
stops receiving input signal, it's values decay into the subnormal
range, which causes substantial increase of CPU load. Such situations
can be avoided by adding a
I am working on a pd-clone intended to explore a lot of the topics in this
thread. It's not fully baked yet but I'm particularly excited about the
approach to namespacing and scope management, which works a lot like
Thanks,
Bill Gribble
On Jan 21, 2013, at 6:13, Lorenzo Sutton
[sorry about partial message send, thumb slip]
I am working on a pd-clone intended to explore a lot of the topics in this
thread. It's not fully baked yet -- the biggest working patch is a biquad
filter designer with pole-zero and freq response plotting -- but I'm
particularly excited about
Dear List,
I've been working a lot with Python and Pd lately, and i would like to have
better means of communication between the two.
I know next to nothing about inter-process communication, I know nothing
about FUDI (except that it's the protocol used by pdsend and pdreceive),
and I have no
Shouldn't we try to organize this?
I mean, apparently we had people testing and working with the toolkits.. It
would be great to know which ones have been tested so far, what are their
pro and cons... Then we could pick one approach and go for it... or is it
too soon?
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at
Hi Katja, thank you for your reply! It is now (slightly) clearer. Every
time you post something here I feel like some messages from a technical
NASA mailing list are being accidentally sent to pd-list!
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/21 katja katjavet...@gmail.com
Pierre, the way how denormals can
Hi,
I've succeed in make Pd and Python communicate by OSC (no sure it's the
best way) with mrpeach library.
I'll try to find the simple version of my patch/script but if not, you
know now it's possible.
To be continued...
Cheers
01ivier
Le 21.01.2013 15:42, Pierre Massat a écrit :
Dear
its not to hard to get your keyboard settings screwed up when changing
them around.
in the settings editor there are several places that you can view
modify the keyboard control
window manager, window manager tweaks and keyboard are a few places to
check. maybe setting everything back to default
Yes, I think that's a great idea. Its definitely not too soon, these have
been discussed for years. Its the time for action :)
.hc
On 01/21/2013 10:12 AM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
Shouldn't we try to organize this?
I mean, apparently we had people testing and working with the
On 01/21/2013 12:54 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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To: IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] GUI toolkits and custom GUIs WAS: Integra Live 1.5
FUDI is not just netsend/netreceive, its all Pd messages, including what
pd-gui sends to pd. Its basically space-separated data terminated with a
semi-colon and a newline i.e. ;\n
.hc
On 01/21/2013 09:42 AM, Pierre Massat wrote:
Dear List,
I've been working a lot with Python and Pd lately,
Well,
You can look at the attached archive.
I repeat that I'm not sure it a good way...
But it's a working way... :-p
Cheers
01ivier
Le 21.01.2013 15:42, Pierre Massat a écrit :
Dear List,
I've been working a lot with Python and Pd lately, and i would like
to have better means of
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To: pd-list@iem.at
Cc:
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd -- Python, IPC, FUDI, pdreceive, et cetera !
FUDI is not just netsend/netreceive, its all Pd messages, including what
pd-gui sends
Yes, I only want to launch Pd from Python and the status of some objects in
return, so nothing too critical.
I'll try the OSC example.
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/21 padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk
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With popen you'll quickly discover the joys of unix buffers, queueing
Assuming that i can find a description of this protocol, how would I use it
to communicate between Pd and Python ? I guess this more a question to ask
in a Python forum, but still, i'd love to have at least some hints...
Cheers,
Pierre.
2013/1/21 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
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That sounded like a Lego approach. :)
So the way I see it the GUI development should be in the most seemless way
for the user, right?
And we also have the problem between people who prefer a simple, leaner GUI
approach (the classic PD, for instance) against people who prefer a more
sofisticated,
I can't access it at all!
Pierre.
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i found hid keyboard but for some reason it's not working with my keyboards
is there a way for me to use give puredata exclusive response to the
keyboard regardless if i click on another window and bring it into
focus with the mouse?
also is there a way to use 2 keyboards and have one of
I think this is the general idea of what everyone wants to support. But the
way is actually takes shape is going to depend on whoever actually does the
work. A great example of this is the PDDP (Pure Data Documentation Project).
We had lots of design meetings and then no one implemented the
Put a simple but unique and relatively prime resistor in each pod. Measure
the network resistance and using Thevenin's theorem work out the
configuration.
Problem: You cant tell order, as A followed by B in series is equivalent
to B then A.
Wow, brilliant! The order may not matter in my
You could also just play sine waves thru them and then feed all signals to a
set of bandpass filters. Measure the amplitude of the filtered signals and
you know which one you have. But perhaps your PWM technique would use less
CPU, if that's an issue.
That's an interesting idea! In my
You're right. Damn, you're always right :)
So, just to know where we are right now... What have been tested/done
regarding the GUIs toolkits so far? I think we should at least have this
set and go on from there...
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:
I
Try:
man pdsend
man pdreceive
There's a thread where I think matju and Tim Blechmann gives
examples of how to use them on the command line.
-Jonathan
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Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 01/21/2013 02:41 PM, Tedb0t wrote:
You could also just play sine waves thru them and then feed all signals to a
set of bandpass filters. Measure the amplitude of the filtered signals and
you know which one you have. But perhaps your PWM technique would use less
CPU, if that's an issue.
So all those interested in a new GUI should start working on it, there is lots
of interest. Then we can incrementally change pd itself as there is a need.
.hc
On 01/21/2013 02:48 PM, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
You're right. Damn, you're always right :)
So, just to know where we are
so let's see...Who´s working with what so far?
I´d love to join a team and start learning how to code with one of the
toolkits.
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:
So all those interested in a new GUI should start working on it, there is
lots
of
hi!
maybe this helps you?
not sure if its close to what you want.
http://www.openmusiclabs.com/projects/repatcher/
and pd patches: http://wiki.openmusiclabs.com/wiki/Repatcher
d.
El 21/01/13 20:59, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió:
On 01/21/2013 02:41 PM, Tedb0t wrote:
You could also just
Hi all,
The BiDi-plugin is aborted ?
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Assuming that i can find a description of this protocol, how would I use
it to communicate between Pd and Python ? I guess this more a question
to ask in a Python forum, but still, i'd love to have at least some hints...
In python use sockets... in Pd
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The BiDi-plugin is aborted ?
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On 2013-01-21 20:41, Tedb0t wrote:
You could also just play sine waves thru them and then feed all
signals to a set of bandpass filters. Measure the amplitude of
the filtered signals and you know which one you have. But
perhaps your PWM
This definitely sounds quite useful.
Scrolling to the selection is not something easy to do right now, but its
something that could be made easy to do. Basically, if the selection is
tagged with a tag that marks it as the selection, then it would be easy to
find the selection object's location
Weirder and weirder. Pd-ext still cannot load 1.list.pd_linux. I get
error: /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup
library'!
but :
~$ ls /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/ | grep list
1.list.pd_linux
So i deinstalled the last auto-build of Pd-extended for ubuntu 12.10
Yip yip - same here:
0.43.4-extended-20130107
WARNING: 64-bit builds are still beta, some libraries are known to have
serious issues (cyclone, maxlib, moonlib, moocow, pdp, bsaylor, etc.)
/usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl/../startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup
library'!
[list] has only one
Definitely something odd is going on because when trying to load
1.list.pd_linux, it then tries to find `Lp.pd_linux which does not exist:
Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
tried ./`Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried /home/batinste/pd-externals/`Lp.l_ia64 and failed
tried
hid only sees my input devices if i start pd with sudo
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Hey Julian,
Can you run this and send me the results:
$ pd-extended -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nrt
.hc
On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Julian Brooks wrote:
Yip yip - same here:
0.43.4-extended-20130107
WARNING: 64-bit builds are still beta, some libraries are known to have
serious issues
~$ ls -l /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 janv. 20 15:40
/usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux -
../extra/vanilla/list.pd_linux
On 21/01/2013 22:51, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Definitely something odd is going on because when trying to load
Check puredata.info, there is a HOWTO for changing that.
.hc
On 01/21/2013 04:50 PM, Billy Stiltner wrote:
hid only sees my input devices if i start pd with sudo
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Also, does it happen if you use the Ubuntu/oneiric package (should work for
wheezy, you might want to use quantal or raring for sid):
https://launchpad.net/~eighthave/+archive/pd-extended/+files/pd-extended_0.43.4%7E20130121-1%7Eoneiric_amd64.deb
.hc
On 01/21/2013 04:37 PM, Julian Brooks
hi all!
simple question here... pix_image is giving me a failed to load image error.
i'm certain the path/filename are correct, and i've tried both png and jpg. any
ideas of why Gem isn't loading the image?
i'm on Crunchbang11 linux with pd 0.43.2 from the Debian repos.
thanks much... cheers!
Wouldn't it be a good idea to settle on a graphics metalanguage rather
than translating tcl code to qt or whatever?
Martin
On 2013-01-21 15:11, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
so let's see...Who´s working with what so far?
I´d love to join a team and start learning how to code with one
Sounds like a good idea, but I don't think that should block anyone from
starting. And having a real example to work with will make it much easier to
figure out how to convert the Tcl into something more generic. The graphic
ideas in Pd are almost all really simple: draw an object box, draw a
how would that work, martin?
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.cawrote:
Wouldn't it be a good idea to settle on a graphics metalanguage rather
than translating tcl code to qt or whatever?
Martin
On 2013-01-21 15:11, Leandro da Mota Damasceno wrote:
Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW menu..
2013/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Ok, that's much better! Try the attached makefile.mingw. The problem is
actually here:
/bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
/bin/sh: -c:
I found it, its fixed here:
http://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=pure-data/pd-extended.git;a=commitdiff;h=2236af8a4bed5fd3f0339fdf578ffc7bab6643a4
.hc
On 01/18/2013 12:37 AM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
I have the same error... But I can't reproduce that yet...
Esteban Viveros
MinGW Shell is what you want. They used to call that the MSYS shell.
.hc
On 01/21/2013 06:14 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW menu..
2013/1/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Ok, that's much better! Try the
Strange, you're is trying a blank object name:
verbose(4): Loading /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
tried ./.l_ia64 and failed
tried /home/julian/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed
tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/.l_ia64 and failed
tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/.l_ia64 and
Yeah.. I can gender a log file now.. The next log I will use that! Thanks!
2013/1/20 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at
On 01/20/2013 01:50 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
HC, can the compilation process gender a log file?
i'm not HC, but hopefully i can give some hints.
$ make make.log
ls -l /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Jan 21 22:00
/usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux -
../extra/vanilla/list.pd_linux
On 21 January 2013 23:28, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
ls -l /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
With the below Ubuntu package all seems better - list has 2 inlets once
more:)
Jb
On 21 January 2013 22:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
Also, does it happen if you use the Ubuntu/oneiric package (should work for
wheezy, you might want to use quantal or raring for sid):
On 01/20/2013 01:35 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
On the flip-side pd-l2ork provides a solid, bug-free environment on Linux
and looks a lot more contemporary than the aged default tk iteration. In
other words, it is a targeted Linux distribution of pd (something that can
be easily lost in a
2013/1/21 Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com
Well.. I have here only MinGW shell and Uninstall mingw-get on MinGW
menu..
I don't know... But using MinGW shell I have the same output... This shell
is not the same msys shell?
I tried in mingw shell the command
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
MinGW Shell is what you want. They used to call that the MSYS shell.
Ok.. I tryed it... Same output...
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BTW - all the ubuntu installs give me dependency errors (asking for
pulseaudio-utils). I really don't want pulseaudio. So have ignored it so
far.
Cheers for the super-quick-fix though.
Best wishes,
Julian
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2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
MinGW Shell is what you want. They used to call that the MSYS shell.
Ok.. I tryed it... Same output...
Did you replace the makefile.mingw?
.hc
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Did you replace the makefile.mingw?
Ops... My fault... I'm was tried the worng makefile.mingw .. :/
Excuses...
Now I have new troubles.. :)
See make.log attached... (Thanks IOhannes!!)
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You need to get the ASIO files:
http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WindowsMinGW
once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio so
that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this: ~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
.hc
On 01/21/2013 07:15 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio so
that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
~/pure-data/pd/asio/ASIOSDK2
Ok! It's done.
New log file
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Messages to the gui _should_ be pd messages (FUDI), no?
-Jonathan
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To: Leandro da Mota Damasceno lem...@gmail.com
Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] GUI toolkits and
Nope, not fixed for me.
Just re-installed the Ubuntu Quantal package, and I still get
/usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux: can't load startup library'!
It does work after [import list] though.
Joel
On 01/21/2013 06:31 PM, Julian Brooks wrote:
With the below Ubuntu package all seems
Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
.hc
On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into ~/pure-data/pd/asio so
that there is a folder called ASIOSDK2 like this:
Ok.. It's done!
How to play?
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Getting closer... try the newly attached makefile.
.hc
On 01/21/2013 07:25 PM, Esteban Viveros wrote:
2013/1/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
once you get the asiosdk2.2.zip, then unzip it into
* download the zip version:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
* unzip it into ~/pure-data
* in ~/pure-data/pd/src, run:
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 prefix=
install
(make sure the last
Hey Joel,
Are you on Debian or Ubuntu? i386/amd64? Can you run these two commands and
send the log?
pd-extended -stderr -verbose -noprefs -nrt
ls -l /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
I'm running Linux Mint Maya amd64 (which is basically Ubuntu/precise) and I've
never seen this...
Yeah.. I'm trying that but nothind happend.. Maybe the pd-extended
installed in system...??
2013/1/22 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
* download the zip version:
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2013-01-17/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117-windowsxp-i386.zip
* unzip it into
You can look at the date on the pd.exe in
~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin and see if its your new one. And
make sure this is all on the same line:
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117
prefix= install
.hc
On 01/21/2013 09:11 PM, Esteban Viveros
Yes... Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 .. Nut I need to run the pd.exe in
~/pure-data/pd/src or ~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin ??
~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117/bin/pd.exe are running.. But I
don't have jackrouter option...
~/pure-data/pd/src/pd.exe nothing happens
2013/1/22
I tried to run in ~/pure-data/pd/src/pd in cms and I have:
C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\srcpd
spawnl: No such file or directory
C:\MinGW\msys\1.0\home\Esteban\pure-data\pd\bin\wish85.exe: couldn't load
TCL
2013/1/22 Esteban Viveros emvive...@gmail.com
Yes...
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] GUI toolkits and custom GUIs WAS: Integra Live 1.5 released
Sounds like a good idea, but
I'm on Ubuntu Quantal amd64.
$ ls -l /usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Jan 21 17:09
/usr/lib/pd-extended/startup/1.list.pd_linux -
../extra/vanilla/list.pd_linux
I'm attaching the log.
Joel
On 01/21/2013 09:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Hey
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Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
On
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Subject: Re: [PD] enhance pd-extended with pd-l2ork featues ?
On
Ah, I think I know the issue, try rebulding it, there were a couple of changes
in the latest makefile.mingw that didn't take effect:
cd ~/pure-data/src
make -f makefile.mingw clean
make -f makefile.mingw
make -f makefile.mingw DESTDIR=~/pure-data/Pd-0.43.4-extended-20130117 prefix=
install
Could all three of you who are affected by this issue send me the result of
these two commands:
$ export | grep LANG
$ export | grep LC_
There seems to be some kind of odd unicode bug. Your system is also looking
for the wrong thing:
verbose(4): Loading
$ export | grep LANG
declare -x LANG=en_US.UTF-8
declare -x LANGUAGE=en_US:en
$ export | grep LC_
$
(ie nothing)
-Joel
On 01/21/2013 10:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Could all three of you who are affected by this issue send me the result of
these two commands:
$ export | grep LANG
$
-wheel of externals all written just to
get
the args
list when this is all that is needed to solve all but the exotic cases.
-Jonathan
You can also try the binary builds I just posted (20130121 version) that has
all of the aforesaid fixes (assuming you use Ubuntu).
Cheers
. Perhaps
it's from going through the hamster-wheel of externals all written just to
get
the args
list when this is all that is needed to solve all but the exotic cases.
-Jonathan
You can also try the binary builds I just posted (20130121 version) that has
all of the aforesaid fixes
thanks.
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