Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !

2013-02-09 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi, Ok, so Charles Henry has been working on this, good. Anybody else would have something to propose ? I'd love to help but my technical background is far from sufficient. Bringing this to the attention of the RPi foundation is about all I could do I think. @Hardoff : the patch i'm using in the

Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !

2013-02-09 Thread i go bananas
10ms or less would be totally acceptable. wow, i really wanna give this a go ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !

2013-02-09 Thread katja
Hi Pierre, There has been intensive discussion about GPU processing on RPI: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33t=6188 Did you read it? In the light of this discussion, I wonder what Eben means when writing We have a bunch of GPU compute available on the device just waiting for

[PD] Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7

2013-02-09 Thread Björn Eriksson
Object cursor don´t work in 0.43.4 / Windows 7, === (maybe its in a special library not included now in the new version? Might it be a crappy installation I did? For instance I keep the old 0.42.3 installation, might that interfere with the newer?) I filled in an

Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !

2013-02-09 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi Katja, I wasn't aware of this at all. Thanks for the link ! I'll read it this afternoon. Thank you! Pierre. 2013/2/9 katja katjavet...@gmail.com Hi Pierre, There has been intensive discussion about GPU processing on RPI: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33t=6188

Re: [PD] Archlinux packages (was: enhance...)

2013-02-09 Thread michael noble
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: ok. I get working pd-vanilla, pdx, pd-l2ork on one archlinux system. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/pd-l2ork/ Fantastic that you've made these available. Thanks a lot. Unfortunately, the build for pd-l2ork is

Re: [PD] Archlinux packages (was: enhance...)

2013-02-09 Thread Fero Kiraly
honestly I dont know where could be problem with compiling disis wiimote, on my system it builds. I just tried example disis_wiimote-help.pd and the object is not available. In console are errors: /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/disis_wiimote.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-l2ork/extra/disis_wiimote.pd_linux:

[PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Fero Kiraly
Iam trying to rotate GEM object with my android phone, sending from acc sensor througth OSC Gem object rotateXYZ is not the solution for that, maybe because of gimbal lock effect... Did anybody similar working patch in pd ? Or can somebody hel me ? many thanks. fk.

Re: [PD] Archlinux packages (was: enhance...)

2013-02-09 Thread michael noble
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: honestly I dont know where could be problem with compiling disis wiimote, on my system it builds. I just tried example disis_wiimote-help.pd and the object is not available. In console are errors:

Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation ! (Jon)

2013-02-09 Thread Jonathan Sheaffer
Hi All, I've been a silent observer for some time now, but since GPU processing is 'close to my heart', I thought I'd jump in... So there goes my first post in the pd-list... In general, GPUs are really beneficial for parallelisable algorithms involving heavy-computations, such as FFTs, fast

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sam, 2013-02-09 at 13:07 +0100, Fero Kiraly wrote: Iam trying to rotate GEM object with my android phone, sending from acc sensor througth OSC Gem object rotateXYZ is not the solution for that, maybe because of gimbal lock effect... Did anybody similar working patch in pd ? Or

[PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi again Katja, I just read through it. Couldn't find anything about having the GPU process some audio. It's really mostly about why it's a bad (or good) thing to keep the GPU closed-source (at least that's what I understand [?]). So I guess there isn't must we can do on our own to access the

Re: [PD] Archlinux packages (was: enhance...)

2013-02-09 Thread Fero Kiraly
maybe should be packaged as cwid-pd-l2ork. I have no time now. fk. 2013/2/9 michael noble loop...@gmail.com On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Fero Kiraly fero.kir...@gmail.com wrote: honestly I dont know where could be problem with compiling disis wiimote, on my system it builds. I just

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Fero Kiraly
I have 3 axis accelerometer and 3 axis orientation sensor in my device. So i can get 0 - 360 deg on X, Y and Z. When I draw in GEM a rectangle, I am able to rotate it with each of 3 axes, but only separately. When I try it with all three axes together it has strange movements, so I guess it has

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Cyrille Henry
hello, rotateXYZ is doing : rotation X then rotation Y then rotation Z this is not the same than : rotation Z rotation Y rotation X So, depending on how works your orientation sensors, you could have to change the rotation order. you can try, using 3 rotateXYZ object. cheers c Le

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
I believe it is (unfortunately) not as simple as that. When you rotate with [rotateXYZ], the three axis are not always perpendicular to each other. For instance, if you set Y to 90, the X and the Z rotate around the same axis. However, the gyroscope (at least the one from Wiimote MotionPlus and

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Fero Kiraly
Roman, thank you, that is exactly what I mean. Google said to me that it has something with: kalman or complementary filter, gimbal lock, quaternions arithmetic with matrixes ( there I can use iemmatrix library) my input data are: accX, accY, accZ, pitch yaw, roll (from HTC desire) how to get

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Cyrille Henry
Le 09/02/2013 15:49, Fero Kiraly a écrit : Roman, thank you, that is exactly what I mean. Google said to me that it has something with: kalman or complementary filter, gimbal lock, quaternions arithmetic with matrixes ( there I can use iemmatrix library) translate/rotate/scale/shear are

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Cyrille Henry
Le 09/02/2013 15:39, Roman Haefeli a écrit : I believe it is (unfortunately) not as simple as that. When you rotate with [rotateXYZ], the three axis are not always perpendicular to each other. For instance, if you set Y to 90, the X and the Z rotate around the same axis. every rotation keep

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread chris clepper
GPUs are not made for very low latency processing of tiny chunks of data. Trying to run the GPU at 5k to 100k FPS on 256 bytes of data is not going to work well at all. Processing a few seconds of audio at once would show massive gains though. Just ask yourself - how many professional DAWs use

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Miller Puckette
Just a comment on Chris's last point: Also, I don't get the obsession with the Pi. There are now lots and lots of under $100 ARMv7 dual core (!) boards that run Linux and have way more I/O options. Why not get something not totally out of date to begin with? My personal reasons for being

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Antoine Villeret
hi, the only realtime audio tool which use GPU I knew is the one from LiquidSonic http://www.liquidsonics.com it uses CUDA to compute reverb with convolution This is the only application I found when I was interested in 3 years ago for my master thesis but it was the very first steps of CUDA,

Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error

2013-02-09 Thread Jack
Le 08/02/2013 22:05, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : When Running Gem in 0.43.4-extended on Windows 7 64 bit I gets L: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid

[PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Jonathan Sheaffer
Just as a side-note, and although this does not seem feasible on the RPi (at least yet), anybody generally interested in audio DSP on GPUs may want to have a look at: Savoija, Lauri, Vesa Valimaki, and Julius O. Smith. Audio Signal Processing Using Graphics Processing Units. *Journal of the Audio

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
From: Jonathan Sheaffer j...@jonsh.net To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !) [...]   In my experience, doing scientific computations

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Cyrille Henry
Le 09/02/2013 18:55, Jonathan Sheaffer a écrit : Just as a side-note, and although this does not seem feasible on the RPi (at least yet), anybody generally interested in audio DSP on GPUs may want to have a look at: Savoija, Lauri, Vesa Valimaki, and Julius O. Smith. Audio Signal Processing

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu To: chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !) Just a

Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation ! (Jon)

2013-02-09 Thread Scott R. Looney
i read that whole discussion thread on the RPi board, and based on that it certainly sounds murky at best that GPU processing is going to become a reality on the RPi anytime soon, without Broadcom's support/permission. JamesH, one of their main hardware dev guys, seems pretty determined you can't

[PD] xensynth9.01.7

2013-02-09 Thread Billy Stiltner
http://www.geocities.ws/billy_stiltner/music/pd/xensynth9.01.7.zip it ought to load and play with the builtin virtual keyboard on windows without having midi routed. done some stuff with the delay and other stuff i don't remember at the moment. recording done today testing out microphone to

Re: [PD] Raspberry Pi : DSP on the GPU ? (WAS : Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !)

2013-02-09 Thread Miller Puckette
I/O options.  Why not get something not totally out of date to begin with? My personal reasons for being attracted to the Pi are, 1, that it's vastly better engineered and supported than other linux+ARM solutions I've seen; and 2, although I'm not sure about this, it seems to dissipate

Re: [PD] gimbal lock solution?

2013-02-09 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sam, 2013-02-09 at 16:41 +0100, Cyrille Henry wrote: Le 09/02/2013 15:39, Roman Haefeli a écrit : I believe it is (unfortunately) not as simple as that. When you rotate with [rotateXYZ], the three axis are not always perpendicular to each other. For instance, if you set Y to 90, the X

Re: [PD] New 0.43-4--Pd-extended GEM Error

2013-02-09 Thread Pagano, Patrick
It's every Gem patch. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Jack j...@rybn.orgmailto:j...@rybn.org wrote: Le 08/02/2013 22:05, Pagano, Patrick a écrit : When Running Gem in 0.43.4-extended on Windows 7 64 bit I gets L: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant GL: invalid enumerant

Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !

2013-02-09 Thread fls
Dear all I know 2 works on GPU and PD. André developed something with PD and GPU. http://www.ime.usp.br/~ajb/wiki/artigos/article-icmc2012-ajb-mqz.pdf Chuck (Charles Henry) also developed something and he helped Andre to develop his code.

Re: [PD] Fwd: absolute vs relative filepath on oggread~

2013-02-09 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
On 02/08/2013 05:32 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: - Original Message - From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu To: 'Hans-Christoph Steiner' h...@at.or.at; pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Fwd: absolute vs relative filepath on oggread~ But it doesn't

[PD] japanese language and text3d

2013-02-09 Thread philippe boisnard
Hello I hav a big problem : I have read thread about the integration of language in text3d but it does not work I try to use [number I [string( I [text3d] but I have no result in the other languages than english or french. I try to use japanese and no result too ? I m in OSX 10.7.5 and

Re: [PD] Message from the boss of Raspberry Pi Foundation !

2013-02-09 Thread Charles Z Henry
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote: That's awesome Pierre! Charles (Henry) was working on GPU related computation with Pd. Some pretty cool stuff. It would be relevant to see how his work developed so far, and whether it might be useful in this context.