2011/7/16 Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com:
I know I'm talking about joining the enemy here, but I'm dabbling in the
dark and scary world of supercollider from a few years using PD. Anyone know
what's a good resource to make the switch?
1. pd and sc are not enemies, just very different
2011/6/17 Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com:
Is there a way to launch Pd from a script with -nogui in such a way that
when the terminal in which it was launched is closed, the Pd process is also
killed?
That's what already happen with all jobs running on one particular
terminal.
strange indeed.. :/
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I'd suggest for serious work consider using JACK. Then you can also do
other fancy stuff.
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It's not an anti-pd workshop per se... It's just about SuperCollider.
The problem is with the promotion then?
Consider the catching phrase just a joke to undo the opposite
marketing strategy that graphical programming is better blah blah...
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Billy,
Did you try the recent rtirq deamon script? There was a recent update
this month.
Do you have problems just with PD? And pd without gui?
Hope you find the solution!
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Hi guys,
BTW: How did you measure this on Windows? And on Linux? What kernel
and jack versions? PureDyne is far from an up-to-date distro, as far
as I know.
50ms is a hell of a big latency for playing live, or recording with
monitoring and other kind of user cases.
But it all depends of what you
Some general and useful hints:
== Install up-to-date kernel (2.6.38.1) or the last rt-patch (still 2.6.33)
== Install up-to-date JACK (jack1 or jack2, try both and see -- jack2
has support for multi-core)
== Edit the /etc/security/limits.conf to allow you (user) to have rt
priviledges
@audio
2011/3/25 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com:
== Edit the /etc/security/limits.conf to allow you (user) to have rt
priviledges
@audio soft cpu unlimited
@audio - rtprio 100
@audio - memlock unlimited
And add
2011/3/25 Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.com:
Studio? Also how do I point puredyne to a repository to upgrade the
kernel?
I know that PureDyne is based on Ubuntu too, so you're using Ubuntu,
and you can use Ubuntu packages. If they don't provide you packages
you can search for a ppa, that
2011/3/25 Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.com:
I did try something similar but with cpu at 95 I think and memlock at
30% of ram. still same glitching. once I get the glitching to stop
when pd window is open I will mess around with that. again. I guess If
I set cpu to unlimited I will have
I agree too. But in my case I have a minimal setup with OpenBox.
Probably because devs and users have tested more extensively on GNOME
and MACOSX?
Do you guys already have a list of cool tk widgets to use?
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Hans,
It worked for me:
option add *PatchWindow*Canvas.background #E1E1E1
option add *PatchWindow*Canvas.foreground #363554
I liked the idea of GUI plugins. Cool!
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Hi Miller and other devs,
PD 0.43 has an annoying bug... He somehow capture a color from the
default color theme system and applies to background color of the
canvases. I use Openbox, but I have KDE installed (Arch). I reported
this last year, but it seems nobody looked at it...
Happy debugging
2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
I don't understand what you mean. Future work is future. It's not like
rewarding past efforts. A past effort doesn't imply feature requests going
to the same person and implementing those features doesn't constitute a
reward for past efforts.
2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
Any investment in free software is an investment in all corporations that
use free software, regardless of how they use it. Very few corporations that
use free software make proprietary forks. Proprietary forks aren't the only
way corporations can
2011/3/19 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
And how do you measure the proportion of money that should go to each
developer in a project ? Take for example pd-vanilla : Miller gets what
percentage of the donations ?
I don't know. Let the donator choose?
2011/3/18 Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com:
... perhaps try one of the rolling
distributions (like aptosid, there are several) if you want your
distribution to contain recent versions.
I'd say go for Arch + ArchAudio in that case. It is and getting
better and better for audio/multimedia right
2011/3/18 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
already. Then the only way to get a reward for having done work that hasn't
been asked for, is always in terms of how much it will get people to offer
you money for future work. Perhaps there ought to be a donation system for
work that has been
Why don't you add this feature then?
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2011/3/10 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
where ?
PD? Or PD-ext or even GridFlow?
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Ingo, I think OSS can offer you just very high latency. You can't get
realtime with it. Did you test this 8ms latency, is that actually
waht happens?
I get latencies as low as 5~10 ms with alsa and jack.
Besides, if you configure your system right with ALSA and JACK, you
don't need to run PD as
Just some ideas...
- Not that this is particularly important, but the word class will
not intensify the BIG confusion of considering PureData as a
object-oriented language even further?
- I understand the word 'external' as external to PD, but PD isn't
itself written in C/C++? Aren't they
2011/2/16 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
what about a box makes it look built-in vs not ?... is it just the habit of
having learned a lot of built-ins and then suddenly realise that the boxes
don't have to be built into ?
That's funny how other languages jargons uses words with different
2011/2/6 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
I've started to write a GUI for generating biquad coefficients (something
like Max/MSP's [filtergraph~]). I've gotten the GUI interaction working
well, now I'm looking for the algorithms for generating a plot of the
frequency response of a given
2011/2/3 Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com:
SuperCollider or CSound or whatever. But neither of
those is an option for me.
For legal reasons? If it's your own project, consider the option
charging for your work, you just have to make your modifications
available. Or because they don't on
2011/1/9 ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com:
ahh yes that definition of RJDJ is clear now...
It's nice have Pd ported to here and there but perhaps time need to sort
of licence matters would not make it worth it.
I remember using Pd for the old ipods via ipod linux- that was a really
I don't want to loose time to studying apple guidelines. One question
is important since it was an issue with the iPhone store: is GPL
compatible with this stuff?
http://www.fsf.org/news/2010-05-app-store-compliance
best!
bernardo
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AppStore wants to lock users even more, I suggest not contribute to
this ugly plan.
Besides... If your user interface is complex or less than very good
it may be rejected.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/01/mac_app_store/page2.html
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2010/12/16 Dima Bak sounddesign3...@gmail.com:
Is there a way to use js in PD like in Max (js object)? Thanks
I think just python and lua (much better btw :-)
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just a question: how to change the default font for tk/tcl?
2010/12/10 B. Bogart b...@ekran.org:
Hi Hans Andras,
Andraz, Indeed the wish test looks fine.
Hans, I removed 8.4 to make sure everything was running on 8.5. wish
certainly (eventually) points to wish8.5
Note I have pd-vanilla
2010/12/4 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
It's because GPL is for hippies, or something.
It's the other way around. BSD is hippier:
Someone in Berkley smoked marijuana and said:
hey man, let's just give it away, who cares what people will do with it,
let them turn this into proprietary or
I don't get all this discussion... why not just stick with plain GPL?
That's why Google Code restricted the possible licenses to choose...
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how big? if it is really big (2gb), maybe you may try wave64 format.
2010/11/22 ronni montoya ronni.mont...@gmail.com:
hello, when i load a big .wav file with sounfiler i get this message:
soundfiler_read: truncated to 400 elements ?
and i cant load the complety sound , just a part.
Arch is being very fine for audio/SC/PD so far. very good distro.
2010/11/15 cyrille henry c...@chnry.net:
hello,
195.36.24 is the nvidia driver version i'm using. mainly because it's the
version shiped with ubuntu 10.04.
i don't know what 260 would offer better, but i think it's not
It was very hard to me to build pd-extended on Fedora 13 x86_64. I
remember I had to tweak something, I can check it later if you want. I
think the scripts are not tested on Fedora at all... And there is no
package for 64bit :-(
On Arch is was kind of easy, there is a AUR on ArchAudio.
2010/11/6 Aykut Caglayan aykut_cagla...@yahoo.com:
Did you try Fomus?
http://fomus.sourceforge.net/
it's supposed to be used with Pd too.
Fomus is very functional to transpose numerical data flow into musical
notation.
FOMUS would be the simplest way, I guess. Just write a temporary text
Marcus Bittencourt did some work in this direction:
http://www.rem.ufpr.br/_REM/REMv11/13/13-bittencourt-puredata.html
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I get this bug since 2005 on the mac...
maybe related to a broad issue in gui-pd communication?
2010/10/28 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org:
Hi,
On 28/10/10 16:41, Jamie Bullock wrote:
Pd's idle CPU usage is 15-20%.
Does anyone know why this is?
probably a bug.. you could
sorry for the speculation. I really did not go deeper into this, I
just used linux and less pd.
but 20%cpu is a serious bu anyway.
2010/10/28 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
On Thu, 28 Oct 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote:
I get this bug since 2005 on the mac...
maybe related to a broad issue
... But maybe it generates a
conflict... I try
Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 11:50 -0300, Bernardo Barros a écrit :
Don't run programs as root, your system will be as insecure as a
windows box...
Just allow rt privileges to the audio group, and add yourself to this
group.
Then start jack with rt
Don't run programs as root, your system will be as insecure as a windows box...
Just allow rt privileges to the audio group, and add yourself to this group.
Then start jack with rt privileges. All software linked to Jack will
run with -rt.
from http://jackaudio.org/faq
JACK requires real-time
Not here. Iḿ on Fedora/KDE and I get good size fonts with console=12
(not 9) and canvas=16 (not 12).
There is a control structure in pc.tcl that turns console font size to
9 if tcl is 8.5. Maybe that is a problem in gnome, I don't know.
2010/10/9 patrick pured...@11h11.com:
that's weird because
A better model for the libs would be just to have packages, spreading
the effort between people to maintain each package. And leaving space
to develop the pd-core/pd-gut themselves. Don't you think? Maybe I'm
missing something.
I didn't know about the incompatibility of BSD and GPL. This happens
why not having a separate git branch(es) that remains compatible and
pulls from vanilla-pd?
then some people can try things out there and at the same time it can be tested.
2010/9/29 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, João Pais wrote:
In case someone is interested in
I have python 2.6.4 (linux x86_64, fedora build) and the py object
does not work here.
where is the source? so I can try to build it.
2010/9/29 patrick pured...@11h11.com:
the version in pypdrssparser is compiled for python 2.6, you should not get
the error if using this version. so yes, be
never mind, it is compiled to 2.5, I misunderstood
2010/9/29 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com:
I have python 2.6.4 (linux x86_64, fedora build) and the py object
does not work here.
where is the source? so I can try to build it.
2010/9/29 patrick pured...@11h11.com:
the version
this tread is about gui performance, isn't it?
2010/9/28 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at:
On 2010-09-28 00:32, Bernardo Barros wrote:
(well, poor performance *is* a bug)
i suspect this is not meant seriously, but why post it?
fgmas
IOhannes
to have it.
2010/9/28 Lorenzo lsut...@libero.it:
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2010-09-28 00:32, Bernardo Barros wrote:
(well, poor performance *is* a bug)
i suspect this is not meant seriously, but why post it?
It looks like the gui discussion and 'critique' really reiterates so often
maybe this is a bug od pd-gui?
(well, poor performance *is* a bug)
2010/9/27 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Well, it's not very exportable as i have modified/overwritten some
abstractions made by others. Baaad
the CPU on João's box too
2010/9/28 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com
maybe this is a bug od pd-gui?
(well, poor performance *is* a bug)
2010/9/27 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:45 AM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Well, it's not very
Just curious,
Any developer never considered taking a look at Nova?
Once I skimmed Tim's thesis and it seemd interesting for Max-like
languages like PD,
It was reliable, performed 2 times faster then Pd and had a pretty
Python+Qt Gui. (And Qt is very efficient, pretty and cross-platform).
anuway,
I didn't understand your problem, but if you are looking for a simpler
way to write c++ dsp code you can try Faust. Then you can have a pd
object-box, a supercollider ugen or a ladspa plugin with the same
code. For the latency problem try to optimize your operating system
for audio work, maybe try
Yes, I see there is a py object now. thanks
2010/9/23 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at:
On 2010-09-22 20:58, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Well maybe there is a Python object? If it has a neat and clean
implementations would be brilliant.
i guess you are not really aware that there _is_ a python
I don't know the multiple syntaxes SuperCollider supports is a bad or
good thing (comparing to Python where there is only one syntax for
everything):
if (0.5.coin) {Hey.postln} {Ho!};
OR
if (0.5.coin, {Hey.postln}, {Ho!});
But since SC is object-oriented and if is a method of boolean,
this also
the java gui for supercollider (swingosc) is not very efficient
performance-wise. It makes the cpu go from 8 to 25%...
The new Qt (gui toolkit with c++ code) is incredibly more efficient
and much more pleasant to the eyes, at least on gnu/linux.
I also can't understand a very good reason to start
the only solution I see to write this kind of things in Max-like
languages is to allow the user to just open a text-box and write what
he/she wants in python or supercollider :-) that's for control
structures, loops, etc
2010/9/22 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com:
--- On Wed, 9/22/10,
Well maybe there is a Python object? If it has a neat and clean
implementations would be brilliant.
2010/9/22 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com:
the only solution I see to write this kind of things in Max-like
languages is to allow the user to just open a text-box and write what
he/she
can you give examples? I work with Pd, sibelius, reaper, ...
I was referring to Microsoft Windows when talking about audio work. I
understand someone using macos because of coreaudio and other good
software, but I don't get it for Windows.
Since you speak of contributing, you can go back read
I have everything working here, no problems, thanks
2010/9/18 João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com:
then I have the perfect linux system - just installed ubuntu 10.04 two
days ago, and at this release the trackpoint in my thinkpad r51 still
doesn't work out of the box.
use an external mouse,
What's the point of advocating a proprietary operating system that
does not even have good quality software?
Other think is: do not talk about price when you talk about free
software That's losing the point. I think free software should be
of very good quality and people should be encouraged
BTW I think the use of free software on Windows can be only
*moderately* encouraged. Just to give a taste, but the main
development focus should be on a free operating system.
2010/9/18 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com:
What's the point of advocating a proprietary operating system
this 15-20% cpu always made me wonder that the mac implementation was
not as good as the linux one
since supercollider with dsp on is like 0%
2010/9/18 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Pd-extended is the GUI and pdextended is Pd itself.
Just stop losing energy with Windows. Better concentrate our limited
resources
Linux is better for audio anyway, and it's so easy to use/install/try
these days.
2010/9/16 ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com:
ola,
The Windows package is still the most downloaded.
so what? that's where
abandoning them.
Just 2 cents.
Andras
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Bernardo Barros bernartdobarr...@gmail.com
wrote:
Just stop losing energy with Windows. Better concentrate our limited
resources
Linux is better for audio anyway, and it's so easy to use/install/try
these days.
2010/9/16
choose linux, and if you are a jerk you choose windows. Be more tolerant,
and of course be happy that you are already on the right side, but try to
help those on the dark side rather than abandoning them.
Just 2 cents.
Andras
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr
Get an real-time kernel if possible.
Tune your system:
check here for a test script:
https://realtimeconfigquickscan.googlecode.com/hg/
When I need full power I use this script:
(I think you have to install some package for this, I dont use ubuntu)
#!/bin/bash
/sbin/sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10
some people reported good results with FFADO + MOTU on Linux.
Check the latest version and report back to us :-)
2010/9/17 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt:
this sh*tty recorder =P
http://www.samsontech.com/products/productpage.cfm?prodid=1901
Works as soundcard, nice (low) latency. I wish I
USB 1.0 they all have same driver. Not true for 2.0 and maybe this is
not true for 3.0.
I wonder why this happens...
2010/9/17 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org:
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:54:25PM +, Ed Kelly wrote:
Ah! I have an H2, although I've never considered it anything other
Windows7_Error: 001 Windows 7 loaded - Warning your computer is now in danger
2010/9/17 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, patko wrote:
(please don't read this serioulsy)
Hahaha ! Hey, I have one :
Q: how many Windows users does it take to screw a light bulb ?
A:
If someone contribute to a really cool, pretty and
performance-friendly GUI side for PureData, Max would become pretty
much irrelevant now.
2010/9/14 Lorenzo lsut...@libero.it:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
[cut]
Oh, and instead of [transport] just use a metro with a
[cut]
It's also
one package for each lib would be the right way to go, I think.
2010/9/14 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
Pd-extended 0.42.5 is designed to be installed at the same time as the
packages that are in Debian and the ones that we are adding to Debian. That
means that it installs all its
I prefer KDE for desktop everyday usage. When I need more performance
I use OpenBox.
It is really minimal and customizable with an clean autostart script
where you can tell what you want.
I don't really like Xcfe because it compromises the desktop and it is
not as minimal as OpenBox.
It is good
yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
I like it
2010/9/13 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com:
Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com
Planet CCRMA offers rt-kernel for x86_64 systems. Give it a try.
2010
proprietary codecs, etc...
2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com
yes, planet_ccrma is a repo for the Fedora/CentOS/RedHat family
I like it
2010/9/13 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com:
Hmm, hmm. That means switching to Fedora, right?
2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr
, know that i have convinced my Fedora friends to switch to Ubuntu,
what do I tall them when i go back? :o)
I'll take a look at it, and also at home-brewing a kernel. Maybe that's the
way forward.
Thanks,
Andras
2010/9/13 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com
Then you have to add Fusion
, medibuntu)
- nice brownish look :o)
Andras
2010/9/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com
just curious... why switch from fedora to ubuntu?
2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
The Debian tools make it quite easy and manageable to build your own
kernel.
Try
companies compare in terms of
how much code they contribute.
.hc
On Sep 13, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
come'on, I hate brown... :-)
One thing is that Canonical do much much less to Linux kernel
development then RedHat. They don't give back :-(
2010/9/13 András Murányi muran
wow! I got a thinkpad w510 and I use nouveau driver (experimental). I
hope I'm not at risk here of damaging my system. This graphic drivers
issue sucks!
2010/8/26 pierre pie...@314r.net:
Hi all
I'm in the way to buy a laptop theses days and would know if someone could
give me a good advice,
just rename it. Then you can benefit from the hacking of other people
and if one day you share your hacks then your neighbour won't have
problems either. What some people do is to just add a prefix to their
objects/abstractions/modules/classes etc. like [sttReverb] or
something like that. One
Are you planning some kind of colours for some kind of 'syntax
colouring' support for the boxes (message/number/audio gen/video etc.)
and cords (audio non-audio)? This should be less problematic lhen the
font size issue, shouldn't it?
2010/8/26 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
Looks like
at 03:14:57PM -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
nice:
pd -jack -font-face Inconsolata -font-size 12
It seems that this will just make all your patches default to a font
size of 12 (check with Edit-Font), it will not make your 10px font
become bigger.
Ciao
--
Frank
I wonder how much CPU is lost with this fancy max graphics. maybe not
much, I don't know what technology they are using. Is it based on qt4
toolkit?
2010/8/21 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com:
While this might be a work around, 2010 one might expect of a graphic user
interface that you can tear
maybe as audio signal through JACK? That is the fastest way I'm aware.
That would be 441000 values per second per channel -1.0/+1.0, then you
had to rescale again.
2010/8/20 Jack j...@rybn.org:
Hello Mathieu,
I have already do that with [packOSC]/[unpackOSC] and
[udpsend]/[udpreceive], it is
Maybe that is a limitation of the PD control rate cords. You only
get audio rate messages between audio boxes.
2010/8/20 Jack j...@rybn.org:
Le vendredi 20 août 2010 à 11:58 -0300, Bernardo Barros a écrit :
sorry: 44100 (or 48000 or 96000)
2010/8/20 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com
btw I remember to ask myself why pd do not allow the user to choose
his/her own fonts... why?
2010/8/20 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org:
Hi,
attached screenshot shows a comparison of the font, I use with Pd on
Debian Squeeze: FreeMono. I start Pd with -font-face FreeMono, no size
or weight
: SHA1
On 08/20/2010 04:58 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
maybe as audio signal through JACK? That is the fastest way I'm aware.
That would be 441000 values per second per channel -1.0/+1.0, then you
had to rescale again.
is that true.
jack internally uses floating point samples, so i don't see
[2] if you don't do block processing
ah yes, I was thinking as one value per block.
2010/8/20 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at:
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Hash: SHA1
On 08/20/2010 05:45 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Maybe that is a limitation of the PD control rate cords. You only
I would vote for this fixed-spaced (but not ugly) font:
http://www.levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html
2010/8/20 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org:
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:17:27AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote:
I don't know how to do this in a way that's portable across platforms...
nice:
pd -jack -font-face Inconsolata -font-size 12
2010/8/20 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at:
You can choose your own fonts, but only from command line flags, or by
editing the Tcl files.
.hc
On Aug 20, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote:
btw I remember to ask myself why pd
I have one suggestion to the developers: at least with kde the canvas
has the color of the current theme. It's ok, no problem. Can be
prettier then the ugly old pd, but... the objects also have to have
their color according to it because it somebody likes a dark theme
with dark background he/she
For communications between the two instances you can use OSC - that's
very flexible.
Em 17 de agosto de 2010 11:55, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com escreveu:
Does this mean that in Linux and on a dual core machine one instance of Pd
only uses one processor? Is there a way to know which
2010/8/13 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Hum, yes. For PD it is a problem indeed. The file format would have
separate content from presentation, right?
Yes and no... there are different things that this idea can mean. the
documentation
2010/8/14 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
So, why do you mention graphviz ?
That was a way to have a file format just with the significant
information for the actual procedures plus comments linked to objects.
Doc would arrange this objects in an optimal way in the screen IF
there is no
Well, yes, this would look like manuals, but I think that could be
changed. There is this proprietary software for mac that is basically
a dot engine behind the scenes with point-and-click mouse interaction:
http://www.omnigroup.com/products/omnigraffle/features/
2010/8/14 Bernardo Barros
is on the left or right of another one).
2010/8/13 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote:
yeah. ok :-) My point was based that we (free software guys) have
limited resources. And we (Portuguese speaking free software guys)
have a bit less. Is it nice
I don't know but maybe create a perl, python or bash script that
creates 2 instances of PD, one with GUI and other without GUI?
2010/8/12 Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com:
Hi there,
is it possible to start a patch automatically on boot up containing both an
audio and GEM patch either with
:
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Personally I don't see the point why so many materials of pratical use in
free software splits the efford make two translations for brazilian and
european portuguese. It does even lees sense after the new orthography
common to both sides. Ok, I
, and with the Wikipedia too. Do we really need two massive
Wikipedias one for each side?
2010/8/12 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote:
Sometimes it's just one letter (with the new orography rules this is
not a problem anymore),
But do people actually use the new rules
Personally I don't see the point why so many materials of pratical use
in free software splits the efford make two translations for brazilian
and european portuguese. It does even lees sense after the new
orthography common to both sides. Ok, I know, there *are* differences,
but, come on!, they
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