Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-27 Thread JF
: Tyler Leavitt thecryofl...@gmail.com To: JF sainti...@yahoo.com Cc: Dafydd Hughes dafyd...@gmail.com; pd list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, 27 July 2012, 2:50 Subject: Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency? 10ms is around the human-ear latency, so anything at that level or below

Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-27 Thread Charles Henry
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Tyler Leavitt thecryofl...@gmail.com wrote: 10ms is around the human-ear latency, so anything at that level or below should be good enough for guitar/drumming (this is anectodtal... Iḿ not sure the exact science behind it). Ive never had a problem with my

Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-27 Thread Simon Iten
Well from a musicians point of view (me) everything above 8ms is not very playable. This is obvioulsy only true if the generated sound has instant attack, otherwise latency does not really matter :-) On Jul 27, 2012 2:30 PM, Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:50

Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-27 Thread chris clepper
There's a threshold for distinguishing two discrete audio events of at least 10ms or so, but that doesn't mean there are no audible artifacts below that. A flanger effect is between 1 and 10ms so low latency can give a static 'hollow' comb filtered sound when the dry and processed sound are

Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-27 Thread Simon Iten
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Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-27 Thread Dan Wilcox
For me this is an important metric. I've been using Pd with guitar at 10-12ms latency for years with no problems ... 0 latency doesn't exist in real life ... On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:58 AM, chris clepper wrote: Also, consider that sound travels about a foot a millisecond so standing 10 feet

[PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-26 Thread JF
I'm on the market for a second hand 13 Macbook Pro circa late 2009 - early/mid 2010. I was wondering if anybody here has had experience of using the stock internal soundcard for low latency for pd? What kind of millisecond ballpark would I be looking at? Thanks in advance, John.

Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-26 Thread Dafydd Hughes
Hi John I've been getting pretty reliable 128-sample buffers using JACK with my mid-2010 15. I don't usually use 64 but when I've tried it's been no problem. Can't remember what it translates to in ms, but 128 seems like instant to me, somewhere between 5-10 I think. Others may be able to

Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-26 Thread JF
Hughes dafyd...@gmail.com To: JF sainti...@yahoo.com Cc: pd list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012, 20:04 Subject: Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency? Hi John I've been getting pretty reliable 128-sample buffers using JACK with my mid-2010 15. I don't usually use 64

Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency?

2012-07-26 Thread Tyler Leavitt
-- *From:* Dafydd Hughes dafyd...@gmail.com *To:* JF sainti...@yahoo.com *Cc:* pd list pd-list@iem.at *Sent:* Thursday, 26 July 2012, 20:04 *Subject:* Re: [PD] 2009-2010 Macbook Pro 2.2GHz Latency? Hi John I've been getting pretty reliable 128-sample buffers using