Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-12 Thread Malte Steiner
yeah, expensive locked down boutique device, Apple gets worse all the time, there have been different times when they were much more open. But, at least when they drop now the 'Computers' in the name, now we know that they focuse on content and vertical integration. Guess GP2X or Nokia N800

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-12 Thread carmen
On Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 03:03:07PM +0100, Malte Steiner wrote: yeah, expensive locked down boutique device, Apple gets worse all the time, there have been different times when they were much more open. But, at least when they drop now the 'Computers' in the name, now we know that they focuse

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread vade
how quickly the tide changes. iPhone is not Intel. http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx? storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com: 20070110:MTFH49765_2007-01-10_17-52-32_N10288928type=comktNewsrpc=44 Samsung ? http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070110/sector_snap_semiconductors.html?.v=1

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread Matthew Shanley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to be the buzz kill, but this hurts me as much as anyone else. Word on the street is that there will be no possibility of software development or installation of software by anyone but apple. A few sources:

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread carmen
On Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 10:59:56PM -0500, Matthew Shanley wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to be the buzz kill, but this hurts me as much as anyone else. Word on the street is that there will be no possibility of software development or installation of software by

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread Abram Hindle
Matthew Shanley wrote: Sorry to be the buzz kill, but this hurts me as much as anyone else. Word on the street is that there will be no possibility of software development or installation of software by anyone but apple. ... If you can save webpages or open local webpages in safari then you

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-11 Thread vade
Well, no official support for it. Jobs actually stated that to allow applications on the iPhone apple have will screen them. Google and Yahoo are already writing applications for it (on record), with apples go ahead. This means that apps can, and will be made available. chances are they will

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-10 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Unfotrtunately, their tech specs aren't that detailed: Technical Specifications Screen size 3.5 inches Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi Input method Multi-touch Operating system OS X Storage 4GB or 8GB GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900) Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE +

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-10 Thread vade
http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articlehybrid.aspx? storyID=urn:newsml:reuters.com: 20070110:MTFH36379_2007-01-10_09-19-12_FAB012644type=comktNewsrpc=44 Doesnt say much, but points to XScale or one of intels other lower power embedded CPUs. On Jan 10, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Yeah, an XScale is an ARM. Sounds like Apple has built the Zaurus but with a good interface. The Zaurus' hardware is nice, but the interface is attrocious. It is free though. I think the most recent Zaurii have VGA out and USB host, so you can plug in the keyboard, mouse, monitor

[PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-09 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Sorry for the cross post. I can't wait to see when Pure Data gets on this thing. http://www.apple.com/iphone/ ~Kyle -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()(((

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Know anything about the hardware? If it really is running OSX as they claim, porting it should trivial. My guess is that it uses integer-only CPUs like ARMs. So then it could use Günter's PDa. .hc On Jan 9, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Sorry for the cross post. I can't

Re: [PD] Apple iPhone

2007-01-09 Thread vade
Ive heard read reports (unconfirmed) that its intels XScale. Possibly also has 16Mb dedicated graphics. GEM too please :) Jobs also had a video output cable during they keynote, which is pretty badass, if thats an option down the road On Jan 10, 2007, at 12:40 AM, Hans-Christoph