Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-21 Thread bigswift
And have fun with the host of NIGHTNMARES that Vista provides. I teach/taught a digital design course using GEM/pidip and it was a nightmare. I gave extra credit for those who switched to linux. John Harrison john.harri...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Are you sure Gem is more stable? From my

Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-21 Thread bigswift
Just switch to linux and everything works better. pidip, GEM everything. I woudl love pdp/pidip to work on OSX completely too but people only seem to have so much time to devote. pp John Harrison john.harri...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Are you sure Gem is more stable? From my last project I

Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-21 Thread ydegoyon
bigsw...@cox.net wrote: And have fun with the host of NIGHTNMARES that Vista provides. I teach/taught a digital design course using GEM/pidip and it was a nightmare. I gave extra credit for those who switched to linux. here in cairo installing lots of linux ( ubuntu hardy ).. there's no

[PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-20 Thread John Harrison
Wondering if there has been any exploration of any of the pdp/pidip objects in win32 maybe even through cygwin. Personal motivation: I'm teaching a class come mid-Jan where I'd like to incorporate pdp/pidip. Many of the students are on windows and it would be nice if they could do some

Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-20 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi John, Well, I know what Yves' response to this will be ;-) At any rate, I'd suggest GEM over PDP anyways, you can do most of the same things, it's truly cross-platform (i.e. has optimizations for each different architecture/processor, rather than PDP which is optimized for Linux + x86

Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-20 Thread Derek Holzer
In such a case, why not turn them on to one of the many live CD Linux distros with Pd? D. John Harrison wrote: In terms of the Windows port idea of pdp/pidip, it's just a way for people to play around at home. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista

Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-20 Thread ydegoyon
Derek Holzer wrote: Hi John, Well, I know what Yves' response to this will be ;-) At any rate, I'd suggest GEM over PDP anyways you can also know that we are friends with Iohannes and that there's no such competition between gem and pdp. you can also know i did the bridge from gem to pdp,,

Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-20 Thread John Harrison
I had the same idea. Problem is that the course is already 40 lbs of potatoes stuck in a 5 lb bag as they say here in the midwest States. I may still go this route tho. I'm a huge fan of Linux. While it improves at an astounding rate, still it can be rough to get Linux w/ 3D accel and sound

Re: [PD] pdp/pidip on win32?

2008-12-20 Thread John Harrison
Are you sure Gem is more stable? From my last project I feel very burned by Gem. I started coding the visuals 100% in Gem and through much pulling of my own hair gradually ended up redoing the project in pdp/pidip. The end result was stable (the Gem version wasn't --- multiple objects were