Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-14 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 6, 2008, at 7:36 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This problem has been 100% solved already: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/pylang/importstatement.html The described way of doing things is a win-win for developers and

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Miller Puckette wrote: Well, what I want to be able to do is put max-compatible objects into Pd vanilla (such as gate and scale) without breaking libraries. However, I didn't realize there were libraries out there that named things the same as Pd built-ins, with the intention of not ever

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 01:36:27PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This problem has been 100% solved already: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/pylang/importstatement.html The described way of doing things is a win-win for

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-06 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 11:39:51AM -0800, Miller Puckette wrote: Well, what I want to be able to do is put max-compatible objects into Pd vanilla (such as gate and scale) without breaking libraries. However, I didn't realize there were libraries out there that named things the same as Pd

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-06 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: This problem has been 100% solved already: http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/pylang/importstatement.html The described way of doing things is a win-win for developers and for users; both get maximum flexibility. I can't think

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Roman Haefeli wrote: hm.. only now, i see that overriding built-ins seems to be intentional. yes, this has been calimed to be a feature: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-dev/2008-06/011846.html i still don't believe it really is. it might be better to add an explicit way to override

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Roman Haefeli wrote: hi all, hi IOhannes after having installed pd 0.42.0test5, i assumed to have discovered a behaviour change of [unpack] and [pack], until i noticed: a) zexy comes with its own version of [pack] and [unpack]. why are they called the same? i really don't get that.

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-05 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, what I want to be able to do is put max-compatible objects into Pd vanilla (such as gate and scale) without breaking libraries. However, I didn't realize there were libraries out there that named things the same as Pd built-ins, with the intention of not ever getting instantiated under the

[PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all, hi IOhannes after having installed pd 0.42.0test5, i assumed to have discovered a behaviour change of [unpack] and [pack], until i noticed: a) zexy comes with its own version of [pack] and [unpack]. why are they called the same? i really don't get that. b) in pd 0.42.0test5 they seem

Re: [PD] scratching my head about zexy

2008-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
hm.. only now, i see that overriding built-ins seems to be intentional. when starting pd with loading zexy, i get: warning: class 'pack' overwritten\; old one renamed 'pack_aliased' warning: class 'unpack' overwritten\; old one renamed 'unpack_aliased' and pd's built-in [pack] can be