that works fine for sending audio to and from live and pd, but not midi (as
far as i know). if anyone knows how to send midi to and from live and pd
(having live's metronome in charge). midi ox/ midi yoke is extremely
glitchy, it constantly sends signals that turn things on and off within
live,
jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Jeffrey Concepcion jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
To: Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com, pd-list Pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 1:57 PM
that works fine for sending
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Jeffrey Concepcion
jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com wrote:
that works fine for sending audio to and from live and pd, but not midi (as
far as i know). if anyone knows how to send midi to and from live and pd
(having live's metronome in charge). midi ox/ midi yoke is
i can't remember exactly where i read this, sorry. but i'd really like to be
able to use the vst object to run it in ableton. Jeff
Hey, why don't you just create a bridge between Live + Pd with Jack?
Alex
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i can't remember exactly where i read this, sorry. but i'd really like to be
able to use the vst object to run it in ableton.
Jeff
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 5:21 AM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote:
the last i read about the [vst] object in Pd was that is was generally
defective (can anyone
Hallo,
Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
I'd just add that one could start from the end of 3.audio.examples
and 4.data.structures to get a decent overall idea of what Pd is capable
of doing.
I learned most of the basic Pd knowledge from these patches (and the
Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote:
From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these
compare?
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com, pd-list@iem.at, Matteo
Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com
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From: Michal Seta m...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these,
compare?
To: Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
Cc: PD list pd-list@iem.at, Matteo Sisti Sette
matteosistise...@gmail.com
I'm almost finished revising the docs: 2.control.examples,
3.audio.examples, 4.data.structures, and 5.reference. I'll post them to
the list when I'm done (should be shortly).
cool!
Anyway learning Pd is _not_ easy and it doesn't have to be. Hence the
learning curve and learning tools
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 09:58 +0100, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Talking about Pd It's fundamental to learn how things works, imho.
Pd is the fundament for learning how things work. That was my experience
(and still is).
Roman
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From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
To: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at, Matteo Sisti
Hallo,
Pierre Massat hat gesagt: // Pierre Massat wrote:
Another thing that'd be nice to make available for new users would be a
comprehensive set of generic patches, which would cover the whole range of
DSP audio. A little bit like Puckette's audio help patches, only on a higher
level (stuff
On Fri, 2010-03-19 at 11:02 -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
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Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these
compare?
To: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Cc
--- On Fri, 3/19/10, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
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Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these,
compare?
To: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 7:08 PM
Hallo,
Pierre Massat hat gesagt: // Pierre Massat
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To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com, pd-list@iem.at, Matteo Sisti
...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these
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Sorry for previous mistake.
I feel concerned because i have been using all of these softwares. It all
started with Reaktor, which is clearly music-oriented (though some people
are able to make video games on it !). I had a lot of fun and headaches. It
was a good introduction to
Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote:
I personally think there is nothing to compare. All of them are quite
separate environments, and i mean not only computing capabilities,
flexibility and GUI, but above all each community supporting the
projects.
Well I think Max and PD _are_ quite
By the way I once collaborated with a guy who composes electroacustic music
and now is doing a Ph.D. at Harvard University (I made some Pd patches for a
piece he wrote)
i hope you got paid. because he certainly is.
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i hope you got paid. because he certainly is.
Yes indeed he did pay me. On an earlier occasion, in which he wasn't
paid at all (before he entered at Harvard), he also paid me. He is a
very nice guy :)
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--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote:
From: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these
compare?
To: quietdi...@gmail.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Wednesday
Marco Donnarumma escribió:
Well, what is reasonable is quite subjective though.
You have a point :)
Anyway I referred
to a global comparison, as you said the (_computing_) domain of both
do overlap, but I specified the importance that IMHO the community
supporting the project has.
I
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:02 AM, saint sainti...@yahoo.com wrote:
But I also can't wait for it to evolve into a more user friendly and
intuitive program (not at the expense of it's simplicity though!).
Is that an oxymoron?
Well, I was using Pure Data wy before it could emit a speaker
Hi all,
I only know Pd and i've been using it for only a year and a half, so i don't
have anything interesting at all concerning the comparison with other
softwares. But since many of you have been discussing Pd's documentation,
i'd like to share my own experience and point to something
--- On Thu, 3/18/10, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote:
From: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: quietdi...@gmail.com, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010
Hi Pierre,
You raise some interesting questions. I teach pd occasionally or just
help newbies to get their feet wet, get off the ground or simply help
with some specific projects. I will address some of the issues you
raise below but note that my comments are not exhaustive nor
definitive:
On
Hi Didit,
Sorry for long post.. but the topic is ever so fascinating :)
Sorry for bringing this old thread up, I find Alex's opinion very
interesting. Actually I kinda feel that using Pd, I'm stuck in the
process of making the instrument instead of the music kinda situation.
I guess this comes
the last i read about the [vst] object in Pd was that is was generally
defective (can anyone confirm or correct this?).
Jeffrey, do you know where you read this?
I would certainly be interested to hear about bug reports.
thanks, Thomas
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From: Lorenzo lsut...@libero.it
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
To: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 9:03 AM
[...]
I guess this comes up frequently in 'computer-based' music
As many other said before, I personally think there is nothing to compare.
All of them are quite separate environments, and i mean not only computing
capabilities, flexibility and GUI, but above all each community supporting
the projects.
this is not better than that, it's only about what fit best
mmm, I can't get what you mean here by smoother.
Best,
M
Ah, by saying smoother, I feel that Pd produce a more harsh noise. I can
here a little bit of click on my windows. While on my Mac,when using mlr
application (a sampler for monome) the Pd and the Max version, I also feel
that Pd
ciao
Gareth Loy with the title 'The Composer Seduced into Programming'
It is important to note just what the
seducing agent in these cases really is. It is certainly not carpentry or
programming, or we would have ceased as artists and become tradesmen. It is
really the will of the composer,
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:58 PM, john saylor js0...@gmail.com wrote:
ciao
Gareth Loy with the title 'The Composer Seduced into Programming'
It is important to note just what the
seducing agent in these cases really is. It is certainly not carpentry or
programming, or we would have
2010/3/17 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com
Remember, ancient people used to make their instruments, sometimes taking
a lot of time.
Actually, whatever i'm operating, i find it an advantage to know how it
works inside, and an ultimate advantage to operate my own creation.
2 cents, Andras
--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com wrote:
From: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
To: quietdi...@gmail.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:16 AM
As many other said
Sorry for bringing this old thread up, I find Alex's opinion very
interesting. Actually I kinda feel that using Pd, I'm stuck in the process
of making the instrument instead of the music kinda situation.Even though
at first, I can custom made an instrument specific to what I want, I ended
up
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Jeffrey Concepcion
jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com wrote:
From an audio processing perspective...
My first introduction to a visual programming environment was Reaktor, then
Max, then Pd. Only recently did i find out about plogue bidule. As far as
interface goes
hi,
Here are MY thoughts:
As a composer attending composition courses in brazilian universities I was
presented with the idea that MAX was professional and stable. and pd
experimental and unstable. Another given point is that MAX had some
wonderful capabilities that Pd might never, giving the
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