Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission

2006-12-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? i would rather change the group of /dev/input/event* via /etc/udev/rules.d/ (and add

Re: [PD] Midi sequencing

2006-12-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: anyway, in pd's media menu, there is the box 'ALSA-MIDI' activated, so i don't know how to interprete this, i mean if pd really supports jack's midi, or if jack does provide some alsa emulation. at

Re: [PD] after pokesdown

2006-12-05 Thread hard off
ok i'll make a topic about that. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] Newbie: output~ couldn't create

2006-12-05 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
I am doing my first tries with pd. I am specially interested in learning building my own synths. I've followed this interesting tutorial. [1]O'Reilly -- Make Your Own Music Software with Pure Data 1. http://digitalmedia.oreilly.com/2005/04/27/pd.html However when loading the provided example

Re: [PD] Newbie: output~ couldn't create

2006-12-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Ismael Valladolid Torres hat gesagt: // Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: I am doing my first tries with pd. I am specially interested in learning building my own synths. I've followed this interesting tutorial. [1]O'Reilly -- Make Your Own Music Software with Pure Data 1.

Re: [PD] Newbie: output~ couldn't create

2006-12-05 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Frank Barknecht escribe: You could simply replace it with [dac~] or copy ouput~.pd from doc/3.audio.examples/ in the Pd documentation patches next to Synth.pd Copying it from the 3.audio.examples directory worked. I assumed that doc was included as a default search path. Are there in Pd

Re: [PD] [Gem] pix_fiducialtrack

2006-12-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Francesco wrote: Hi guys ù i'm trying to use the object pix_fiducialtrack but it doesn't works while reacTIVision retrive information from the same fiducials. Does anyone have the same problems? Could it be an all.trees file problems? I'm using some of the fiducials found on the The design

Re: [PD] Midi sequencing

2006-12-05 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 23:41 +, Cesare Marilungo wrote: Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 15:41 -0500, carmen wrote: On Mon Dec 04, 2006 at 09:20:02PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: hi cypod On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 09:22 -0800, Cypod wrote: Hi PD list,

Re: [PD] Newbie: output~ couldn't create

2006-12-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Frank Barknecht wrote: Only the extra and externs directories are usually used as default search paths. I also think it's a bad idea to include the examples dir into the search path, as most of these files are not intended to be used as abstractions themselfes. i totally agree. The

Re: [pd] a simple, user friendly place to post and link to patches, externals, libraries, etc.

2006-12-05 Thread derek holzer
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: so the steps currently required are: 1) click on add file (1.5 clicks) 2) browse to the file you want to upload (at least 2 clicks) 3) write a dscription of it this makes at 3.5 clicks compared to 1 click (but i guess the 1 click was not to be meant literally). i

Re: [PD] diff between graph and array?

2006-12-05 Thread derek holzer
Perfect. This is the plaintext definition I was waiting for. I did read the thread in question already, but it wasn't so clear as how you just described it. thx, d. Ohannes m zmoelnig wrote: derek holzer wrote: Writing docs sure makes you question the simple things again! Like this: Why is

Re: [PD] Midi sequencing

2006-12-05 Thread Cesare Marilungo
jared wrote: I would recommend Bidule by Plogue. I love this program. Brilliant for live use as well. It has a basic midi sequencer that, from the sounds of it, might be sufficient for what the expressed need here. The next version will have more advanced sequencing capabilities. Most

Re: [PD] Newbie: output~ couldn't create

2006-12-05 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Frank Barknecht escribe: Only the extra and externs directories are usually used as default search paths. I also think it's a bad idea to include the examples dir into the search path, as most of these files are not intended to be used as abstractions themselfes. There's extra but no externs

Re: [pd] a simple, user friendly place to post and link to patches, externals, libraries, etc.

2006-12-05 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at 01:00:01PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i think we really just need something where people can upload a patch or zip file with one click, and then write a description of it. this makes at 3.5 clicks compared to 1 click (but i guess the 1 click was not to be

Re: [PD] Newbie: output~ couldn't create

2006-12-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Frank Barknecht escribe: Only the extra and externs directories are usually used as default search paths. I also think it's a bad idea to include the examples dir into the search path, as most of these files are not intended to be used as abstractions

[PD] Soft synths using pd

2006-12-05 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Any links to more or less simple soft synths developed using puredata by people from this list? I am interested in learning how to create my own. Thanks in advance. Cordially, Ismael -- Ismael Valladolid Torres http://lamediahostia.blogspot.com/ m. +34679156321

[PD] Using netsend/netreceive

2006-12-05 Thread Miguel Cardoso
Ive been using netreceive to receive data from flash, but I cannot send data to flash. It seems that i need to send the messages with \0 at the end, but in pure data i cannot write such message Has anyone been able to do it? ___

[PD] pdp crop?

2006-12-05 Thread metafor
hi list i wonder if this might be possible with pdp. i have to do some heavy image processing (filters and colordetection) on 4 videostreams in realtime, which is a overload for my cpu. all frame manipulations like gain/saturation/stresh/cheby are applied on the whole resolution 320x240. but

Re: [pd] a simple, user friendly place to post and link to patches, externals, libraries, etc.

2006-12-05 Thread derek holzer
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: oh, i was calculating at least 2 clicks for uploading the file for: 1 click to pop up a file-browser 0-n clicks to navigate to the correct folder 1 click to choose the file this makes at least 2 clicks in the file-selection which you cannot get around. which makes

Re: [PD] pdp crop?

2006-12-05 Thread Yves Degoyon
lucky you, pdp_cropper from pidip suerte, sevy hope you an build pidip if you need it, i noticed a few problems with newer libraries building it yesterday on gentoo, and not much time to fix it. metafor wrote: hi list i wonder if this might be possible with pdp. i have to do some heavy

[PD] wavetable distortion after save

2006-12-05 Thread metafor
hi list i experience a strange behavior of pd saving wavetables. i am working on ubuntu edgy amd64, pd is compiled from CVS a week ago. if i draw a wavetable and save my patch, the result is completely distorted when i reopen the patch. like some random sinus curves. i do not compute audio

Re: [pd] a simple, user friendly place to post and link to patches, externals, libraries, etc.

2006-12-05 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Frank Barknecht escribe: You cheated by omitting the two clicks used to select the file on your disk. Can it be done using a text mode browser using keyboard strokes instead of mouse clicks? Seems faster to me, mouse clicks are so boring... Cordially, Ismael -- Ismael Valladolid Torres

Re: [PD] after pokesdown

2006-12-05 Thread Steffen
On 04/12/2006, at 3.58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any thoughts? this one gave me the very warm feeling of not only building the entire sound myself from nothing, without samples or midi, but the feeling that I could do it again, that composing directly in Pd was not just possible, but

[PD] gem2pdp compilation | once again

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick
hi everybody i just catched the cvs-externals and compiled pdp, and the cvs-gem sucessfully. now i tried to compile the gem2pdp: #autoconf #./configure --with-gemdir=../../src/Gem/ --with-pddir=../../ --with-pdpdir=../pdp #make clean #make i tried also with the pdp-0.12-4 version ( ./configure

Re: [PD] after pokesdown

2006-12-05 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Steffen escribe: There is some really poetic creature spiking out of this scientist- brained person. Kudos! And thanks for sharing, and for sharing it this living, elaborate and (again) poetic. Please, I just subscribed this mailing list and I'm still not used to your ironics. ;)

Re: [PD] gem2pdp compilation | once again

2006-12-05 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Patrick wrote: hi everybody and i get only: cat ../pdp/include/pdp.h | grep -v m_pd pdp-light.h g++ -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall -W -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -DGEM2PDP_VERSION=\0.6\ -g -I../..//src -I. -I../pdp/include

Re: [PD] hid/linux: event permission

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2006, at 3:22 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Basically, you can either change the perms of the devices, or add your user to the root group. do i read correctly that you are proposing to add your user to the root group? Yes, the root group

Re: [PD] how do I build plugin~ from the CVS repo?

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
FYI, I just enabled the building of [plugin~] on Mac OS X. So it should be included in nightly builds and upcoming test and final releases. .hc On Dec 3, 2006, at 12:51 PM, John Harrison wrote: I am a bit confused how to use the plugin~ source code from the CVS repo:

Re: [PD] gem2pdp compilation | once again

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick
great : ) please let me know, when you have done it. PatSch. On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 16:52 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: this means, that you should exchange any occurance of post() that gives you an error by ::post() (with 2 colons before the post) i will fix this in gem2pdp-source

Re: [PD] gem2pdp compilation | once again

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick
great : ) it works : ) thanks a lot!! mfg. patsch. On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 17:26 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Patrick wrote: great : ) please let me know, when you have done it. i have done it. mfga.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Using netsend/netreceive

2006-12-05 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Ive been using netreceive to receive data from flash, but I cannot send data to flash. It seems that i need to send the messages with \0 at the end, but in pure data i cannot write such message Has anyone been able to do it? Try Martin Peach's

Re: [PD] pdp crop?

2006-12-05 Thread metafor
hi yves well i am a lucky man. CPU is now down on 10% which will give me enough power to calculate four streams. i still have to test around, but it looks like it's exactly what i need and it seems to work stable. i will definetly have a beer tonight and will think of the miracle happened to

Re: [PD] gem2pdp compilation | once again

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick
dear IOhannes in .pdsettings i've add the entry: loadlib33: pdp loadlib34: pdp2gem loadlib35: gem2pdp when i now start pd in pd appears: PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs pdp2gem: can't load library gem2pdp : a bridge between GEM and PDP/PiDiP v0.6 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) gem2pdp : a bridge

[PD] pidip and ffmpeg compilation

2006-12-05 Thread Patrick
dear list i've downloaded the svn version of ffmpeg and configured it with: ./configure --enable-mp3lame --enable-libogg --enable-vorbis --enable-gpl i tried also manipulating the Makefile and added the variables: /usr/local/src/pd/ffmpeg/libavutil/libavutil.a in PDP_PIDIP_LIBS and

[PD] More Text Strangeness

2006-12-05 Thread timon
Hi, Im doing this typographic project using Gem. I need to have a expanded number of characters - exceeding the usual ASCII. Ran into some problems, first the right encoding of text file - which had to be UTF-8 formatted and second, a properly mapped OTF font (which is not straight

Re: [PD] More Text Strangeness

2006-12-05 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! So, can someone explain how I can have the same character showing in the symbol box but not rendering out the same value into the [text3d] object (å from a text file, and å typed directly into the object). If this is a little confusing Id be happy to explain more. Im very confused.

Re: [PD] after pokesdown

2006-12-05 Thread Steffen
On 05/12/2006, at 16.35, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Steffen escribe: There is some really poetic creature spiking out of this scientist- brained person. Kudos! And thanks for sharing, and for sharing it this living, elaborate and (again) poetic. Please, I just subscribed this mailing

[PD] font to include in Pd-extended packages

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I'd like to propose that we include a default font in the Pd-extended packages and that anything that uses fonts use the included font. I know that the aesthetics of fonts are generally very contentious, I would like to avoid that issue entirely. Instead this is an issue of usability.

Re: [PD] after pokesdown

2006-12-05 Thread padawan12
On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 03:58:48 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a year since I wrote my first Puredata music, so .. Wow, thanks for all the very kind words peeps. An important goal has been proven for me. They were designed to share. I keep seeing Pd as vital part of what MPEG4-SA was always

Re: [PD] font to include in Pd-extended packages

2006-12-05 Thread padawan12
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:01:05 -0500 Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose that we include a default font in the Pd-extended packages and that anything that uses fonts use the included font. Second that. Sure, leave the loading of other fonts open, but a

Re: [PD] wavetable distortion after save

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You can get 0.41 test builds for GNU/Linux from the autobuild farm: http://autobuild.puredata.info .hc On Dec 5, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Miller Puckette wrote: Hi Marc, This is a bug that is fixed in 0.41 (which is in early pre-release right now). cheers Miller On Tue, Dec 05, 2006 at

Re: [PD] wavetable distortion after save

2006-12-05 Thread derek holzer
Hi Marc, there were long-standing issues with PD on 64bit that prevented the correct reading/writing of tables (including soundfiler-loaded ones). I don't know if these were ever resolved. In the end I ran PD under 32bit emulation on my AMD64 laptop (before I sold the damned hairdryer!). You

Re: [PD] how do I build plugin~ from the CVS repo?

2006-12-05 Thread james tittle
On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI, I just enabled the building of [plugin~] on Mac OS X. So it should be included in nightly builds and upcoming test and final releases. ...this sounds good, but what will this build of [plugin~] do on OSX? The problem has

Re: [PD] font to include in Pd-extended packages

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 6, 2006, at 2:35 AM, padawan12 wrote: On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:01:05 -0500 Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to propose that we include a default font in the Pd-extended packages and that anything that uses fonts use the included font. Second that. Sure, leave

Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library

2006-12-05 Thread padawan12
On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:03:39 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was born, manual was all about punching holes in cardboard and feeding it to the card-reader. However, when I actually started programming, manual was about having to press Play at the same time and

Re: [PD] Soft synths using pd

2006-12-05 Thread mik
less simple: http://music.ucsd.edu/~tre/pMachinePro2.3/weblog.php?id=P23 m Ismael Valladolid Torres schreef: Any links to more or less simple soft synths developed using puredata by people from this list? I am interested in learning how to create my own. Thanks in advance. Cordially, Ismael

Re: [PD] how do I build plugin~ from the CVS repo?

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2006, at 1:28 PM, james tittle wrote: On Dec 5, 2006, at 11:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: FYI, I just enabled the building of [plugin~] on Mac OS X. So it should be included in nightly builds and upcoming test and final releases. ...this sounds good, but what will

Re: [PD] Using netsend/netreceive

2006-12-05 Thread Miguel Cardoso
Thanks Martin! do you know where i can find these externals? On Dec 5, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Ive been using netreceive to receive data from flash, but I cannot send data to flash. It seems that i need to send the messages with

Re: [PD] Using netsend/netreceive

2006-12-05 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Thanks Martin! do you know where i can find these externals? In the CVS repository, or hopefully in an upcoming version of pd-extended. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 -

Re: [PD] Soft synths using pd

2006-12-05 Thread Steffen
On 05/12/2006, at 14.33, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Any links to more or less simple soft synths developed using puredata by people from this list? I am interested in learning how to create my own. It might be worth to have a look in doc/7.stuff/synth/

Re: [PD] Soft synths using pd

2006-12-05 Thread padawan12
Frank and I are slowly working on a teachin document called six simple synthesisers. It's a bit immature at the moment, but you can find it on my site. Also studying some of the very good net-pd examples is a cool way to see exemplars of separating things out Good softsynths tend to be built

Re: [PD] diff between graph and array?

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Anyone want to add that to the FAQ? http://puredata.org/docs/faq .hc On Dec 5, 2006, at 7:36 AM, derek holzer wrote: Perfect. This is the plaintext definition I was waiting for. I did read the thread in question already, but it wasn't so clear as how you just described it. thx, d.

Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library

2006-12-05 Thread Thomas Mayer
padawan12 wrote: On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:03:39 -0500 (EST) Mathieu Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was born, manual was all about punching holes in cardboard and feeding it to the card-reader. However, when I actually started programming, manual was about having to press Play at

Re: [PD] Soft synths using pd

2006-12-05 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, padawan12 hat gesagt: // padawan12 wrote: Frank and I are slowly working on a teachin document called six simple synthesisers. It's a bit immature at the moment, but you can find it on my site. Not related to that, but the PDX7 V2 may be another instrument you want to take a look at:

Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2006, at 3:12 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: chris clepper wrote: On 12/4/06, *Hans-Christoph Steiner* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, Gem loads and so does [gemwin]. An ATI from 1998 supports some NVidia extensions that a current ATI does not

Re: [PD] Using netsend/netreceive

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Miguel Cardoso wrote: Thanks Martin! do you know where i can find these externals? In the CVS repository, or hopefully in an upcoming version of pd- extended. They are in the nightly builds, in the library mrpeach

Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library

2006-12-05 Thread chris clepper
On 12/5/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you are saying that they removed NV compatibility from in mesa when going from 6.4 to 6.5? This is just one specific extension for Nvidia specific shaders. I don't know if anyone is using those shaders, but we could probably

Re: [PD] after pokesdown

2006-12-05 Thread hard off
miller vanilla ha ha ha!!! also, that quote from you about pd being the crack cocaine of multimedia software is awesome. go andy! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [pd] a simple, user friendly place to post and link to patches, externals, libraries, etc.

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Dec 5, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Steffen wrote: On 05/12/2006, at 13.58, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: PS: there is a separate mailinglist pdweb@ dedicated to talk about the website. There indeed is. It would be quite valuable if people interested in the topic hooked up there. As a matter of

Re: [PD] after pokesdown

2006-12-05 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I like this idea. MPEG4-SA has always seemed like vaporware that will never get accepted, but maybe someday it will be...perhaps Pd would be a better framwork than Music N. Kudos to keeping it vanilla too, because you're right about the portability issue with that. So when are we getting

Re: [PD] Re: [PD-dev] Pure Data for Solaris?

2006-12-05 Thread Jarbas Jacome
Yes, brother... thanx, but anyway the workshop was very good! The people become really surprised with the possiblities PD can offer. It was just a very introductory workshop and it worked very well. As it was part of a visual art event, I tried to focus on audiovisual. I translated the summary if

Re: [PD] Gem: can't load library

2006-12-05 Thread marius schebella
yup, still no luck with Gem here... when compiling cvs Gem on the machine with the Radeon X300 card, I got rid of the glDeleteProgramsNV error. but I can not play any movies. Pd either crashed or showed only one color. I downgraded ubuntu to libgl1-mesa 6.4 (before it was 6.5). also no

[PD] IntelMac Autobuild, Don't start: Segmentation fault

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think I fixed this bug, please check the autobuilds for tomorrow 2006-12-06. .hc On Dec 3, 2006, at 11:43 AM, SourceForge.net wrote: Bugs item #1607921, was opened at 2006-12-03 17:43 Message generated for change (Tracker Item Submitted) made by Item Submitter You can respond by

Re: [PD] Soft synths using pd

2006-12-05 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
There is some FM stuff included in Help-Browser-3.audio.examples .hc On Dec 5, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Ismael Valladolid Torres wrote: Any links to more or less simple soft synths developed using puredata by people from this list? I am interested in learning how to create my own. Thanks in