Re: [PD] Small bug with comment

2010-02-09 Thread Pierre Massat
Sorry, what is Pd-gui-rewrite/0.43?? 2010/2/9 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Does this still happen with Pd-gui-rewrite/0.43? .hc On Feb 5, 2010, at 1:46 PM, cyrille henry wrote: thats because it is compiled with TCL 8.5 and not 8.4 c Pierre Massat a écrit : hi, I believe i

Re: [PD] [env~ ] vs [vsnapshot~ ]: which one is more cpu consuming?

2010-02-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, ypatios hat gesagt: // ypatios wrote: Also, you should know that the result of [env~] is something akin to a low-pass filter; the speed limiting from the original patch might be done more efficiently by squaring the signal and sending it through a (probably aggressive) low-pass

Re: [PD] [env~ ] vs [vsnapshot~ ]: which one is more cpu consuming?

2010-02-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-02-07 10:34, ypatios wrote: hello! By using [block~ 1], you're increasing the number of clock calls, and the arithmetic for finding an index is kind of wasted since the block is only one sample long. Maybe it would be best to avoid [block~] and bang vsnapshot~ with a metro set to

[PD] peak amplitude in pd vanilla (was: [env~ ] vs [vsnapshot~ ]: which one is more cpu consuming?)

2010-02-09 Thread ypatios
Hallo Frank :-), thanks for your reply (i updated the subject since the discussion moved on..) While you could bang vsnapshot~ at samplerate and keep track of samples in a list or so, this is a waste of resources. Something like tabsend~ or tabwrite~ probably is much better: Just write a

Re: [PD] peak amplitude in pd vanilla (was: [env~ ] vs [vsnapshot~ ]: which one is more cpu consuming?)

2010-02-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-02-09 11:21, ypatios wrote: Hallo Frank :-), thanks for your reply (i updated the subject since the discussion moved on..) While you could bang vsnapshot~ at samplerate and keep track of samples in a list or so, this is a waste of resources. Something like tabsend~ or tabwrite~

Re: [PD] Small bug with comment

2010-02-09 Thread James Dunn
It's the latest version of pd (still in development) which includes a rewrite of the GUI (graphical user interface) and can be downloaded from here: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-gui-rewrite/0.43/ James Quoth Pierre Massat, on 09/02/10 07:59: Sorry, what

Re: [PD] peak amplitude in pd vanilla (was: [env~ ] vs [vsnapshot~ ]: which one is more cpu consuming?)

2010-02-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, ypatios hat gesagt: // ypatios wrote: As I understand it (and hopefully i am not completely wrong..) you don't have to 'store' a list and 'then' read again it to find the max magnitude. It's as simple as the following: (some signal) *I* *I* [pd me...@samplerate] Note that [metro]

Re: [PD] Small bug with comment

2010-02-09 Thread Pierre Massat
Ok, i'll check whether the bug is still there and I'll report to the list. 2010/2/9 James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com It's the latest version of pd (still in development) which includes a rewrite of the GUI (graphical user interface) and can be downloaded from here:

[PD] metro limit

2010-02-09 Thread hard off
is there any need for the 1ms metro limit? couldn't it at least be lowered to 0.01ms to enable sample accurate timing? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] metro limit

2010-02-09 Thread ypatios
i guess the limitation is for safety reasons. but you can always use a self-feeding delay: [toggle ] | [sel 01] | \ [bang ( [stop ( \ / [t b]X[del 0.0226757] | .. -- ypatios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] metro limit

2010-02-09 Thread ypatios
[sel 01] oops! i mean [sel 10] ciao -- ypatios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] metro limit

2010-02-09 Thread hard off
yeah yeah, i know, so don't let it go to infinitely small values, but 1ms is probably getting a bit outdated. surely it's time for a revision? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] metro limit

2010-02-09 Thread brandt
take a del and feeback the outletBang with the inlet of the del. do not forget a stopmessage (caution infinite loop) yours sincerely der.brandt is there any need for the 1ms metro limit? couldn't it at least be lowered to 0.01ms to enable sample accurate timing?

Re: [PD] metro limit

2010-02-09 Thread Andrew Faraday
I do some sample accurate work, the best way I've found is [bang~] which outputs a bang every every audio cycle. Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 14:26:40 +0100 From: bra...@subnet.at To: hard@gmail.com CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] metro limit take a del and feeback the outletBang with

Re: [PD] peak amplitude in pd vanilla (was: [env~ ] vs [vsnapshot~ ]: which one is more cpu consuming?)

2010-02-09 Thread Matt Barber
As I understand it (and hopefully i am not completely wrong..) you don't have to 'store' a list and 'then' read again it to find the max magnitude. It's as simple as the following: (some signal) *I* *I* [pd me...@samplerate] *I*/ [vsnapshot~ ] | [abs ] | [moses ]X[t f ]            |

[PD] PD Gui-Rewrite Linux Problem

2010-02-09 Thread ailo
I am unable to create an object. When I fill an object with any text and push enter, it won't deselect. Only way to do it is going out of edit mode. I'm running the new PureDyne which comes with Pure Data already installed. I've been swapping different versions of PD-extended after removing

Re: [PD] Http request

2010-02-09 Thread Pagano, Patrick
Try and bother Bill about it! :-) pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of ydego...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 1:51 PM To: jim Cc: pd list; Marco Donnarumma Subject: Re: [PD] Http request yes i tried this already

[PD] [PD-announce] Thirty-third meeting of the PureData users group of Montréal

2010-02-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
21 février 2010, de 13:00 à 17:00 à Vidéographe Production, 4550, Garnier, Montréal, QCattachment: pdmtl-33.png___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Thirty-third meeting of the PureData users group of Montréal

2010-02-09 Thread Derek Holzer
Will it last longer than 30 seconds? ;-) D. Mathieu Bouchard wrote: 21 février 2010, de 13:00 à 17:00 à Vidéographe Production, 4550, Garnier, Montréal, QC -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 200: How would you explain this to your parents?

Re: [PD] PD Gui-Rewrite Linux Problem

2010-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Pressing Enter doesn't usually create new objects, or at least any version of Pd that I know. Which version of Pd are you using? .hc On Feb 9, 2010, at 9:52 AM, ailo wrote: I am unable to create an object. When I fill an object with any text and push enter, it won't deselect. Only way

[PD] vsnapshot~ help patch?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
All this talk about vsnapshot~ makes me want to take a look. Anyone have a help patch for it? .hc All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but

Re: [PD] vsnapshot~ help patch?

2010-02-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: All this talk about vsnapshot~ makes me want to take a look. Anyone have a help patch for it? It's the same as snapshot~, but acts sample-accurate with clock-delayed messages. Similar to vline~ vs. line~. Ciao --

Re: [PD] vsnapshot~ help patch?

2010-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 9, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: All this talk about vsnapshot~ makes me want to take a look. Anyone have a help patch for it? It's the same as snapshot~, but acts sample-accurate with clock-

Re: [PD] Small bug with comment

2010-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Nightly builds are available on some platforms too: http://puredata.info/dev/PdGuiRewrite .hc On Feb 9, 2010, at 7:04 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Ok, i'll check whether the bug is still there and I'll report to the list. 2010/2/9 James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com It's the latest version of

Re: [PD] vsnapshot~ help patch?

2010-02-09 Thread James Dunn
Quoth Hans-Christoph Steiner, on 09/02/10 17:05: On Feb 9, 2010, at 11:30 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: All this talk about vsnapshot~ makes me want to take a look. Anyone have a help patch for it? It's the same as

Re: [PD] Small bug with comment

2010-02-09 Thread Max
there is a bug in vanilla and even in the latest rewrite, that dots followed by a space are disappearing after saving and reopening patches. make the first line in this patch read first 1. - see there is no dot! after reopening you'll see: first 1 - see there is no dot! comments.pd

[PD] pd vanilla vs. pd extended

2010-02-09 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, (I am using puredata on Linux only) I am always trying to compile the applications and system tools for my Linux system myself. This way I am only installing things, which are at least interface compatible with the rest ... but this may be or may be not a spleen ... only my two cent...

Re: [PD] pd vanilla vs. pd extended

2010-02-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
For now, deep hack mode is your best bet. Its not hard tho. Mostly all you'll need to do is remove items from the LIB_TARGETS line in externals/Makefile. .hc On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:17 +0100, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, (I am using puredata on Linux only) I am always trying to

Re: [PD] PD Gui-Rewrite Linux Problem

2010-02-09 Thread ailo
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pressing Enter doesn't usually create new objects, or at least any version of Pd that I know. Which version of Pd are you using? .hc Sorry. My confused. What I meant was that I am unable to deselect the object using the mouse. I propably tried the enter key

Re: [PD] metro limit

2010-02-09 Thread hard off
i'm not looking for suggestions. i'm just saying that the 1ms lower limit on metro speed is probably getting a bit outdated, and could be lowered to 0.01ms, to allow for sample accurate timing. i assume that 1ms was an arbitrary decision made years ago when computers were much less powerful, and

Re: [PD] PD Gui-Rewrite Linux Problem

2010-02-09 Thread András Murányi
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:03 AM, ailo infinite.ailo...@gmail.com wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Pressing Enter doesn't usually create new objects, or at least any version of Pd that I know. Which version of Pd are you using? .hc Sorry. My confused. What I meant was that I am

Re: [PD] peak amplitude in pd vanilla (was: [env~ ] vs [vsnapshot~ ]: which one is more cpu consuming?)

2010-02-09 Thread William Brent
Note that [metro] has a lower limit of 1 ms, so you need to make your own metro-abstraction. Ah - I had no idea that this was true. I suggested using a metro with a rate of 1/44.1 ms as an alternative to [block~ 1], but I guess there's no way around it... It seems like the best thing to have

Re: [PD] Can I control the velocity of a video?

2010-02-09 Thread Alexandre Castonguay
Hi, Use [pix_film] with a [counter] and vary the speed of the [metro] going to the counter. I think you will need to send the 'auto 0' message to [pix_film]. There is also an object named [gems.movies~] in the pdmtl abstractions package. All these objects have good help patches detailing

[PD] vertical column of msg boxes

2010-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, I've been doing a lot of work with the help patches, and I've noticed the following idiom: a column of msg boxes lined up neatly above an object. Each message box is connected to the object box below. So you get one straight vertical line down the inlet of the msg boxes to the