Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-04-22 Thread João Pais
that's of course true. but two details are against it: - if you really know what you want, you'll want to design your own patch for that, and won't take any other already made programs - but if you go for it, you'll spend your time programming the mixer, instead of the project you were

Re: [PD] Do not use OSCx. Use mrpeach's externals instead

2010-04-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-04-22 03:18, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:30 +0200, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: A way could be to include help-patches (which are missing right now) and put a comment that read DEPRECATED in each of them. Absolutely.. Again,

Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-04-22 Thread Lorenzo
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, João Pais wrote: if you need a program to mix tracks in a session, then there's no point in even thinking of programming something like that in pd, just use any of the very good programs around. There is a very simple and oft-overlooked point to

Re: [PD] length in midifile

2010-04-22 Thread colet . patrice
It's not me that has decided there is no midi note length, it's the midi protocol creators. you have Note On for playing the note, and Note Off to stop playing the note, how would it be better? for this reason we often use [stripnote] because [makenote] sends a Note On and a Note Off (the

Re: [PD] length in midifile

2010-04-22 Thread colet . patrice
Maybe you mean by delta, finding an algorithm that is able to add delta values between note On and note Off messages? http://253.ccarh.org/handout/vlv/ - Mail Original - De: colet patrice colet.patr...@free.fr À: Rory Walsh rorywa...@ear.ie Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Jeudi 22

Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-04-22 Thread João Pais
if you need a program to mix tracks in a session, then there's no point in even thinking of programming something like that in pd, just use any of the very good programs around. There is a very simple and oft-overlooked point to reinventing such programmes inside of pd : it gives you a mixing

Re: [PD] External to get boxes' informations

2010-04-22 Thread João Pais
for me, iemguts is something highly experimental (e.g. not something most people would use in their everyday life; but of course it's up to the people to chose what they use in their everyday life). more important, what i want to do can be mainly done as an external (even though using private

Re: [PD] External to get boxes' informations

2010-04-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-04-22 12:16, João Pais wrote: you often say that iemguts is very experimental and can be broken in the it's probably a disclaimer, just as Pd seems to be not reaching a release 1. next day (due to developments in pd gui or something?). there are some very interesting things there,

Re: [PD] External to get boxes' informations

2010-04-22 Thread João Pais
#2 iemguts are mainly research driven. the only userbase that counts for me, is currently(?) myself. this is unlike other to libraries i provide, like zexy or Gem, where there is an acknowledged userbase, which i feel a responsibility for (e.g. even after major changes of an object's API, i will

Re: [PD] length in midifile

2010-04-22 Thread PF
i'm no expert in midi, but i want to send midi notes (and durations) from a .mid file to a synth of mine. i see the midifile help has a bunch of stuff for noteOn and noteOff events, but it's confusing to me. if anyone can clarify a bit i'd really appreciate that. On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:50

Re: [PD] Do not use OSCx. Use mrpeach's externals instead

2010-04-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i don't know why you want to depict a scenery with hans sitting there like a bulldog and watching people to not mess around with other's code. it's not like that. I don't have to depict it, it happened for real. I just don't want to paste

Re: [PD] Do not use OSCx. Use mrpeach's externals instead

2010-04-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 07:42:17PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: another way could be to _not_ include help-patches, so people don't learn how to use them :-) And so that people don't know how to translate old OSCx-based patches to

Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: ok, what are the margins of canvases for? what happens when I change them? I see nothing... :( They move the red rectangle for GOP to a different position. Do you see the rectangle? Ciao -- Frank

Re: [PD] Do not use OSCx. Use mrpeach's externals instead

2010-04-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-04-22 16:23, Frank Barknecht wrote: Didn't someone write wrapper abstractions for this? oscx might be i think i posted such wrappers once or twice. fgmasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] length in midifile

2010-04-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
I'm no expert either, but from what I understood, Patko meant to say, that a midi-file is organized in a way, that note-on and note-off messages are separate events, of which each has its own time stamp. Translated into human-readable instructions, a midifile says 'press key C# now'. And a few

Re: [PD] External to get boxes' informations

2010-04-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-04-22 12:16, João Pais wrote: there are 2 parts, why i need the disclaimer: #1 iemguts use private headers of Pd; a change in these headers might/will break iemguts. Everybody and their dog are using private headers in Pd, and everybody

Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-04-22 Thread João Pais
- if you really know what you want, you'll want to design your own patch for that, and won't take any other already made programs - but if you go for it, you'll spend your time programming the mixer, instead of the project you were thinking of in the first place. I would guess that unless someone

Re: [PD] nusmuk_audio WAS: Max Smoother Audio than Pd?

2010-04-22 Thread colet . patrice
hmmm, in fact I'm using workstations like ardour, (I don't often use ardour thought even if I've set a bunch of scripts to configure jackd and pd with it) since ages for producing sounds or instruments made with dataflow stuff, I just wanted to check if someone has invented this wheel in

Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Miller Puckette
It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no effect for canvases that aren't graph-on-parent. cheers Miiler On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 09:12:41PM -0400, Alexandre Porres wrote: ok, what are the margins

[PD] VJ tools using pure data on Mac

2010-04-22 Thread Adityo Pratomo
Hi all, I've been looking for a nice VJ tool on Mac. Been trying the resolume, but sadly my graphic card couldn't handle it. So, I've seen the pdvjtools and qeve patches made from Pd, but sadly this is for Linux only. So, is there any patch that I can use to do some VJ practice? Thanks and

Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Alexandre Porres
Thanks! seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way, cheers 2010/4/22 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the upper left edge of the red rectangle inside a graph-on-parent canvas -- has no effect for canvases that aren't

Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Alexandre Porres
Hmm, what about Units per Pixel when GOP is unticked? Cheers Alex 2010/4/22 Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com Thanks! seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way, cheers 2010/4/22 Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu It's not a really good name... this sets the location of the

[PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Dear list: hello to everybodyi have a problem, in the university i request about a second partition with ubuntu 9.04 for working with pd, they use a mac intel intel core 2 duo, desktop line, i installed pd and work, but the sound no...in all the system. Any idea or command in terminal?

Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread András Murányi
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list: hello to everybodyi have a problem, in the university i request about a second partition with ubuntu 9.04 for working with pd, they use a mac intel intel core 2 duo, desktop line, i installed

Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Thanks, ill try and comment... thanks Andras... José 2010/4/22 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list: hello to everybodyi have a problem, in the university i request about a second partition

Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:04 +0200, András Murányi wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list: hello to everybodyi have a problem, in the university i request about a second partition with ubuntu 9.04

[PD] several distributions populate array

2010-04-22 Thread João Pais
Hi, before I start programming wanted to ask: does anyone knows / has made any patches to populate an array with values? something like make 10 values between X and Y, being at a constant rate, or following an exponential curve, or with (more or less) random deviations, ... Thanks, João

[PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode

2010-04-22 Thread João Pais
Hi, just had a thought for a gui development: a runtime mode, feasible for demos or finished applications where the user only gets presented with the finished program, and no menus. In opera it's called kiosk mode (http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/kiosk/): all the menus are hidden,

Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode

2010-04-22 Thread András Murányi
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 8:01 PM, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, just had a thought for a gui development: a runtime mode, feasible for demos or finished applications where the user only gets presented with the finished program, and no menus. In opera it's called kiosk mode (

Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread Ariane stolfi
hi, I don't know if you had followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac#Sound for imac https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryMac for other macs they have steps to get mostly of your hardware working a 2010/4/22 Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de On Thu, 2010-04-22 at

Re: [PD] several distributions populate array

2010-04-22 Thread Martin Peach
João Pais wrote: Hi, before I start programming wanted to ask: does anyone knows / has made any patches to populate an array with values? something like make 10 values between X and Y, being at a constant rate, or following an exponential curve, or with (more or less) random deviations, ...

Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread Ricardo Lameiro
and after that you can look into this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation It may help you. and also, AFAIK you can instal the package ubuntustudio controls to help you to set some configurations. 2010/4/22 Ariane stolfi arianesto...@gmail.com hi, I don't know if you

Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread Pagano, Patrick
I have ubunutu on my mac and I had to tweak the sound settings quite a bit. Are you sure there is NO sound or very very faint sound? pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Ricardo Lameiro Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:32 PM To: Ariane stolfi Cc: PD List;

Re: [PD] gui devel idea: kiosk mode

2010-04-22 Thread errordeveloper
i think it's probably better to do this via a msg so basically there would be commands like: gui-hide-menu gui-hide-scrollbar gui-hide- ... gui-canvas-fullscreen gui-hide-decortion so basically you can put this into a subpatch and loadbang whichever one you need ;) may it's better to implement

[PD] installation / configuration problem? getting od to make noise

2010-04-22 Thread Bernhard Garnicnig
Dear pd users, since several weeks I'm stuck with a Mac Mini [1] on which I just cannot get pd (0.42-5 and 0.41.4-extended using both portaudio and Jack on Mac OS 10.5.8 and now 10.6) to output any sound when running testtone.pd. Yes, compute audio is enabled ;-) I've gotten pd to run just fine

Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd

2010-04-22 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Thank to all mac intel dont have sound, i dont even try... i comment the results, thanks a lot to this great community... Best regards José 2010/4/22 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu I have ubunutu on my mac and I had to tweak the sound settings quite a bit. Are you sure

Re: [PD] several distributions populate array

2010-04-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, João Pais wrote: before I start programming wanted to ask: does anyone knows / has made any patches to populate an array with values? something like make 10 values between X and Y, being at a constant rate, or following an exponential curve, or with (more or less) random

Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote: Thanks!seems to not affect arrays as well, by the way,  Arrays are canvases, and margins are about canvases, so, they affect the canvas aspect of them, so, goppable objects are moved and cropped according to the red rectangle, yet at the same

Re: [PD] margins

2010-04-22 Thread Alexandre Porres
I didnt want it to do anything really, just wanted to know what it did... what about those unit pixels thing? when the canvas is not gopped? cheers alex 2010/4/23 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Alexandre Porres wrote: Thanks!seems to not affect arrays as well, by