Re: [PD] sssad in pd-extended?

2010-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:43 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: As for alternate ways of including things besides libdirs, there are lots of kludges currently in Pd-extended. I've been spending a lot of my time maintaining them. I'm working on

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Maurizio De Cecco wrote: Given the fact that jMax slept a few years, it cannot compete with puredata in terms of available libraries, patches, and in general maturity of the solution. No, it wasn't in this order :

[PD] hi

2010-09-22 Thread punchik punchik
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Re: [PD] how to create a sound like this?

2010-09-22 Thread Andy Farnell
You could approximate it with an additive method, and a bit of noise to help. see patch a. On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 16:22:03 -0700 ronni montoya ronni.mont...@gmail.com wrote: hello list, i was wondering how can i create a sound like this? Do you have any idea of how to simulate this kind of

[PD] Random parameters of an abtraction affect the parameters of the others

2010-09-22 Thread punchik punchik
hello, what would be the best approach for this in pd? I have i patch that generates dynamically abstraccions, when each abstraction is created it begin to make sound in a random way : its parameters moves randomly. I was wondering what would be the best approach if i want that the random

Re: [PD] web client

2010-09-22 Thread Jordi Sala
Hi, I finished the first verision of the patch where I needed the httpget... It works so well. http://vimeo.com/15138625 On 21 September 2010 19:57, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I posted it to a tutorial page: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/SimpleWebclient I think this

Re: [PD] panning abstraction or object?

2010-09-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, ronni montoya wrote: Hi list, i was wondering if theres an abstraccion or object like this in pd: I need a pan object that when is -1 is complete silence and when is +1 is complete silence too. when the value begins to move from -1 to +1 the sound begins to appear in the

Re: [PD] Random parameters of an abtraction affect the parameters of the others

2010-09-22 Thread Andy Farnell
If this behaviour is to be global then the lesser used value object [v] might help here. On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 23:52:51 -0700 (PDT) punchik punchik punch...@yahoo.com wrote: hello, what would be the best approach for this in pd? I have i patch that generates dynamically abstraccions, when

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
OK i'm installing the dev packages as well. (very long on osx) In fink there are labeled: gstreamer-dev 0.8.12-1029 but i can't see no plugins-dev... i'll try to compile after that and get back to you if problem. thx for your help. n Le 21/09/10 14:52, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
OK i'm installing the dev packages as well. (very long on osx) In fink there are labeled: gstreamer-dev 0.8.12-1029 but i can't see no plugins-dev... after that , i checkout last pdgst, try to compile following your instructions and get back to you. thx for your help. n Le 21/09/10 14:52,

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-22 10:06, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: OK i'm installing the dev packages as well. (very long on osx) In fink there are labeled: gstreamer-dev 0.8.12-1029 no, you need gstreamer-0.10 (i think development on gstreamer-0.8 has been stopped about 6 years ago) fgmasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
ok my fault. now i have installed: gstreamer-0.10 gstreamer-0.10-dev gstreamer-0.10-shlibs but it is missing the plugins package, maybe the shlibs is the same? trying to compile in pdgst/src gives: Liszt:src ncio$ make PD_SRC=/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/

Re: [PD] sssad in pd-extended?

2010-09-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Ok, but how can we define which library has to be listed there and which not? for example, Dan has a nice set of objects, could his library be listed? or we talk about externals only... M On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Ok, I've been posting the

Re: [PD] sssad in pd-extended?

2010-09-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
ya, I never got that neither... M On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be great if you could add other libs to that page that are not currently included in Pd-extended, things like Gridflow,

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
Le 22/09/10 10:57, Nicolas Montgermont a écrit : but it is missing the plugins package, ok i get them under the name: gst-plugins-base-0.10 i install all that and try to compile n -- http://nim.on.free.fr ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [PD] web client

2010-09-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Nice work Jordi! Hey Dan, I posted your tutorial here http://www.thesaddj.com/tutorial-simple-web-client-in-pure-data-by-danomatika/ Hi, I finished the first verision of the patch where I needed the httpget... It works so well. http://vimeo.com/15138625 On 21 September 2010 19:57, Dan

Re: [PD] pdp_theonice on ubuntu lucid: Video streaming problem

2010-09-22 Thread Nick Burge
Hi, many thanks for your reply Now I cannot connect with the ogg patch either. thsi is what i get playing back an ogg audio file oggread~: START oggcast~: connecting to port 8000 oggcast~: logging in to IceCast2 server... oggcast~: logged in to

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Maurizio De Cecco
Given the fact that jMax slept a few years, it cannot compete with puredata in terms of available libraries, patches, and in general maturity of the solution. No, it wasn't in this order : first it already couldn't compete with PureData, AND THEN jMax 4 appeared, which finished

[PD] inprogress - framework and single abs to enable dynamic GOP patching

2010-09-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hi all, there has been few threads about dynamic patching and I wasn't able to show my work before. So finally I got it working as I wanted. - everything happen in run mode, no need to switch - You can create working GOP abstractions chains in different workspaces (4 at the moment) simply

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread servando barreiro
HI there.. I just want to share my experiences with Os´s.. I started in the nineties with a windows machine, I tried 95, 98, millenium, nt, xp It hanged really frequently  (20 times in a day w cad software..) so I assumed that as a normal function state from the machine.. At some point I

Re: [PD] [readanysf~] refuse 96kbps ogg's!?!

2010-09-22 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 02:49 +0200, august wrote: Hi list, all in the title... I tried different types (mp3, wav, ogg, at different rates and frequencies...) Some didn't passed: Invalid file or unsupported codec. The only relation I found on 12 ogg files, the five that didn't passed

Re: [PD] [readanysf~] refuse 96kbps ogg's!?!

2010-09-22 Thread Raphael Raccuia
Le mercredi 22 septembre 2010 à 02:49 +0200, august a écrit : Hi list, all in the title... I tried different types (mp3, wav, ogg, at different rates and frequencies...) Some didn't passed: Invalid file or unsupported codec. The only relation I found on 12 ogg files, the five that

Re: [PD] midi learn

2010-09-22 Thread Raphael Raccuia
Thank's for that, I thing I'll stay without defaults the moment, but I'll remember this approach. I added a 'bang' option, so object outputs a bang instead of a value for non-zero midi value, for use with a button. The list now has a third item, 0 or 1, to indicate if it's enabled or not...

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread James Dunn
I love linux and ubuntu but the driver support is a bit of an issue. I recently upgraded my mother's computer to 10.04 and now her Dell V505 all-in-one printer doesn't work. I got no (helpful) response from emailing Dell. Secondly on a pd related problem, I am still running 8.04 because the

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread servando barreiro
Hmmm, yeah,, sounds familiar to me.. but, have you checked the ubuntu forums?.  maybe If the hardw is too new, there´s still not a driver for it.. : ( Also the graphic card Issues sounds familiar.. for me the solution to this issues was buying a used thinkpad (quite cheap) that I know is

Re: [PD] web client

2010-09-22 Thread Dan Wilcox
Hah, you don't need to put by danomatika. I just posted a patch by others. My main point in doing so is to reiterate that we should be moving useful information and example patches out of the list and onto the wiki. It would help others and provide a buffer from those commonly asked questions,

Re: [PD] sssad in pd-extended?

2010-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:02 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It would be great if you could add other libs to that page that are not currently included in Pd-extended,

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
I have installed the gst-plugins-0.10 package, it normally contains all the plugins (it needed an update of xcode by the way) Trying to compile now gives: Liszt:src ncio$ make PD_SRC=/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/Resources/include/pd

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread Pagano, Patrick
the achilles heel for linux in my opinion is still video editing. I've tried everything from Broadcast2000 to Lives with no luck bueller? From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of James Dunn [ja...@4thharmonic.com] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This is for making plugins/shared libs on GNU/Linux: gcc -shared on Mac OS X its should be: gcc -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup .hc On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: I have installed the gst-plugins-0.10 package, it normally contains all the plugins (it needed

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
How about kdenlive or cinelerra? I've been working a bit with kdelive and it seems pretty straightforward and even usable ;) .hc On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: the achilles heel for linux in my opinion is still video editing. I've tried everything from Broadcast2000

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread Pagano, Patrick
cinelerra is basically Bcast2000 redone IMHO I will look at kdenlive i guess! :-) thx. From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [h...@at.or.at] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 10:07 AM To: Pagano, Patrick Cc: James Dunn; pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] unix and

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread Husk 00
Hi Patrick, Wich kind of problems did yo have with video editng application for linux? I don,t feel to say that they are like some privative software (like apple finalcut) but kdenlive, ospenshoteditor, are for me quite good programs for video efiting and they are freesoft! I use kdenlive with

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread Olivier Heinry
I started using Blender's sequence engine a few months back, and as long as you install a version compiled with ffmpeg support, it works nicely. it's a very different environment though. pros: * x-platform * features 3D! * big community, alive project cons: * implies learn very different

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies. [is: video editing]

2010-09-22 Thread jurgen
LIGHTWORKS goes open source in october - as far as I read it should run on Linux. On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:16 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: cinelerra is basically Bcast2000 redone IMHO I will look at kdenlive i guess! :-) thx. ___ ___

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 8:01 AM On Sep 21, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Mathieu

Re: [PD] unix and (bad) companies.

2010-09-22 Thread Dan Wilcox
Can you guys take this to pd-ot please? On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: How about kdenlive or cinelerra? I've been working a bit with kdelive and it seems pretty straightforward and even usable ;) .hc On Sep 22, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

Re: [PD] web client

2010-09-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Yes, I know what you mean, and that's why I posted that way. I didn't imply the patch were yours. It's quite rare to see tutorials and similar posted on the community site. I myself did it only once or twice... that's why I appreciate your post. we should be moving useful information and example

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
ok cool. hacking the makefile in pdgst/src replacing -shared by -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup allow the code to compile without errors. Now if i open pdgst-help.pd, here is the log: -- pdgst $Revision: 0.0 $ (copyleft) IOhannes m zmoelnig @ IEM / KUG compiled on Sep 22 2010 at

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-22 17:18, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: ok cool. hacking the makefile in pdgst/src replacing -shared by -bundle -undefined dynamic_lookup allow the code to compile without errors. Now if i open pdgst-help.pd, here is the log: -- pdgst $Revision: 0.0 $ (copyleft) IOhannes m

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
ok thanks. only the audio/x-run-float is not created i'll try to do some streaming tomorrow following jack's patches thanks a lot n Le 22/09/10 17:42, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On 2010-09-22 17:18, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: ok cool. hacking the makefile in pdgst/src replacing -shared

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Maurizio De Cecco wrote: For the record, jMax Phoenix support the jMax 2.x API, not the 4; the APIs are extended wrt 2.x, but in a backward compatible way. Ah, that's good. What motivated you to go back to the 2.x API ? I would call it a bug (even fatal), no a

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: The point is the [expr] object supplies a way to do the kind of syntax under discussion, and in certain cases it seems necessary to avoid the Max paradigm cliche of spaghetti/spider webs. At least that's my position-- Btw I started coding [#expr]

Re: [PD] pdp_theonice on ubuntu lucid: Video streaming problem

2010-09-22 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
wth? the server is working perfectly fine : http://giss.tv/gstats/genstats.php?x=16y=6 the server is not called source.giss.tv but giss.tv ... anyway, it's not a pd problem, giss has its own support contact ... ciao, sevy Nick Burge wrote: Hi, many thanks for your reply Now I cannot

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-22 18:00, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: ok thanks. only the audio/x-run-float is not created yes, that's how it currently is, i haven't found a good way to do proper caps-filtering. you should be able to do the same thing with [capsfilter] and setting the caps property to

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Maurizio De Cecco
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Maurizio De Cecco wrote: For the record, jMax Phoenix support the jMax 2.x API, not the 4; the APIs are extended wrt 2.x, but in a backward compatible way. Ah, that's good. What motivated you to go back to the 2.x API ? Well, the biggest motivation for working of jMax

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-22 16:48, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: expr if(bx=20, if (py=by py+60=by, 0, 1), -1); if (bx=415, 2, -1); if (by=0, 4, if (by=500, 5, -1)) honestly i find this hard to read as well, esp. compared to traditional C-like syntax: if(bx=20) if(py=by py+60=by) return 0; else

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Maurizio De Cecco wrote: By the way, jMax expressions are *compile* time expression (actually, load time expression), not objects like expr (that exists in jMax, coming straight from the ISPW). It is just a way to parametrise an abstraction/patch wrt its arguments.

Re: [PD] prosilica GigE camera

2010-09-22 Thread cyrille henry
hello, i just have blaster gige cam. could you be a bit more verbose on what should be installed? thanks cyrille Le 20/09/2010 22:00, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : On 2010-09-20 15:52, Jack wrote: Hello, Is there someone who has tested a GigE camera with GEM under Linux or MacOSX ?

Re: [PD] sssad in pd-extended?

2010-09-22 Thread Marco Donnarumma
These questions, I don't know the answer to, IOhannes set those up. I personally think they are gratitious and should be removed. I think we should have: * distributions * applications (curently stand-alone products) * libraries and externals (maybe just call it libraries) * GUI plugins

Re: [PD] [pdgst] and [pix_pix2gst] problem to stream

2010-09-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-21 03:53, Jack wrote: Is there someone who has succeeded to send a stream to an Icecast2 server with : [pix_pix2gst yuv 128 64] | [typefind] (or without) | [ffmpegcolorspace] | [theoraenc]

Re: [PD] prosilica GigE camera

2010-09-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-09-22 19:11, cyrille henry wrote: hello, i just have blaster gige cam. could you be a bit more verbose on what should be installed? there are 2 backends in Gem that should support GigE cameras: AVT[1] and halcon[2]. grab either of the sources and compile Gem against it. there are

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 9/22/10, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 6:36 PM On 2010-09-22 16:48, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: expr if(bx=20, if (py=by py+60=by,

[PD] [PD-announce] [Pd-announce] mediagrid v0.1

2010-09-22 Thread Husk 00
Hi list, just to share this abstraction I'm using in my recent patches. Mediagrid is a graphical file chooser. It is based on videogrid external from Sergi Lario and Lluis Gomez i Bigorda. Apart to be an abstraction and not an external, the main difference is that mediagrid is cross-platform and

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at, pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 6:09 PM On Wed, 22

Re: [PD] pdgst on mac

2010-09-22 Thread Nicolas Montgermont
Le 22/09/10 18:26, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : try the patches in ./tests, some of them should work :-) yes this one at least work to get mp3tag :) i think i have to dig into gstream philosophy now... incredible, osx can compile things! cheers, n -- http://nim.on.free.fr read_id3_mp3.pd

Re: [PD] how to create a sound like this?

2010-09-22 Thread Andy Farnell
That dynamic builder works great with additive method. I guess another way would be to use sinesum to pre-gen a table for [tabosc~] a. On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:42:28 +0200 (CEST) patko colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: This one uses only oscillators following harmonics - Andy Farnell

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Wed, 9/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Btw I started coding [#expr] last week... but I think that it will take a long time to finish coding it. Great! * [#expr 3 / 2] ? At this point 1.5, and I think I will keep it that

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Bernardo Barros
the only solution I see to write this kind of things in Max-like languages is to allow the user to just open a text-box and write what he/she wants in python or supercollider :-) that's for control structures, loops, etc 2010/9/22 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com: --- On Wed, 9/22/10,

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Bernardo Barros
Well maybe there is a Python object? If it has a neat and clean implementations would be brilliant. 2010/9/22 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com: the only solution I see to write this kind of things in Max-like languages is to allow the user to just open a text-box and write what he/she

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Iterative loops are pretty easy with [until]. In certain circumstances recursive loops are not so difficult, either. For me there are just certain types of conditional statements and chains of operators that are easier to do and read in expr rather than with several objects. In the attached

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread chris clepper
Now you just need Chris Klippel to dust off the old video code he and I worked on those many, many years ago (almost a decade!). On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Maurizio De Cecco j...@dececco.namewrote: Hallo, my name is Maurizio De Cecco, and i am the maintainer and developper of the jMax

Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix

2010-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 9/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] jMax Phoenix To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, gridflow-...@artengine.ca Date: Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 8:46 PM On Wed, 22 Sep 2010,

Re: [PD] [Pd-announce] mediagrid v0.1

2010-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Wow, the GUI is impressive, that's Pd? Downloading now. You should post this on the library downloads page: http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/ Also, you don't need httpS, http just works and without the certificate warning:

Re: [PD] [Pd-announce] mediagrid v0.1

2010-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
That's really nice! Unfortunately when your abstraction initializes itself, something you are doing is setting the dirty flag. This means for each instance you'll get a dialog asking if you want to save the changes. (I think it's because you are sending a donecanvasdialog message to a

Re: [PD] [Pd-announce] mediagrid v0.1

2010-09-22 Thread João Pais
Unfortunately when your abstraction initializes itself, something you are doing is setting the dirty flag. This means for each instance you'll get a dialog asking if you want to save the changes. (I think it's because you are sending a donecanvasdialog message to a canvas somewhere.) This is

Re: [PD] [Pd-announce] mediagrid v0.1

2010-09-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ah, that's good to know. Thanks. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 9/23/10, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [PD] [Pd-announce] mediagrid v0.1 To: pd-list@iem.at List pd-list@iem.at, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at, Jonathan Wilkes