Re: [PD] OT: help needed setting up Hammerfall, ALSA and JACK on debian

2007-07-22 Thread Michal Seta
Hi Martin, What do you mean by hard time? does cat /etc/proc/asound/cards show your RME card? if so, does hdsploader upload the firmware to your card? if so, did you run hdspmixer to make sure the audio channels are not muted? if the answer to all of the above is yes it *should* be all nice and

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: [unpack] does not have default values. If you unpack a list of length 2 using [unpack 0 0 0], the last outlet won't be used. The zero is never used as a float. So, if one believes that the type declarations only have to do with

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote: It's not in my responsibility to decide, if and where people may rely on the ouput of [unpack] and how they use it, but as I see it, [unpack 0 0] is of contract between the patch

[PD] Fwd: circular motion of a shape using TranslateXYZ

2007-07-22 Thread Richard Powell
-- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 22, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: circular motion of a shape using TranslateXYZ To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, This is my first post to the list so please bear with me. I am trying to move a shape (sphere,

Re: [PD] Fwd: circular motion of a shape using TranslateXYZ

2007-07-22 Thread Thomas O Fredericks
Here is the corrected patch (much simpler than what you are expecting) Tom On 7/22/07, Richard Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul 22, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: circular motion of a shape using TranslateXYZ To:

Re: [PD] Fwd: circular motion of a shape using TranslateXYZ

2007-07-22 Thread Stephen Sinclair
here's another solution, only using Translate Steve On 7/22/07, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is the corrected patch (much simpler than what you are expecting) Tom On 7/22/07, Richard Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From:

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Stephen Sinclair
Actually a thought occured to me: If the arguments of [unpack] should not also specify their types, why do we have these arguments at all? As I see it, then they would only be there to specify the number of outlets. However using the argument count to specify the outlet count is really awkward

[PD] polygon object

2007-07-22 Thread Timon Botez
Hi, is there a more efficient way of feeding co-ordinates to the polygon object? If I have more than 20 points it is somewhat difficult to match a feed to the inlets. Something like a matrix input could make that simpler... Thanks. T. ___

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Stephen Sinclair hat gesagt: // Stephen Sinclair wrote: I know what you're saying, and I just had to reply: I would not be surprised if the reason it was chosen to use the argument count was simply to ensure that the graphical box was large enough to support the number of specified

Re: [PD] How do you find exposure from pixel or video?

2007-07-22 Thread B. Bogart
hi Henry, pix_mean_color? May need to use one of the pd-extended nightly build installers since they have a newer gem than the stable pd-extended. .b. Henry Lin wrote: hello what i mean is we need to use the cam recorder to capture the lighting and send out a number... which mean that a

Re: [PD] polygon object

2007-07-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Timon Botez hat gesagt: // Timon Botez wrote: Hi, is there a more efficient way of feeding co-ordinates to the polygon object? If I have more than 20 points it is somewhat difficult to match a feed to the inlets. Something like a matrix input could make that simpler... I

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote: I was hoping that compatibilty as a goal would be a two-way compatibility: Patches, that were developed on DD would also be running on MSP-Pd, minus some features like faster graphics or special objects like [tracecall] (which would only be like a

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: I just find the disappearing or changing meaning of 0 confusing. What have you ever used that meaning for? Well, for making sure, that unpack will give a number at that outlet or nothing there at all. I think, the usefulness,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Andy Farnell
I'm now quite confused about the purpose and direction of DesireData. When Chun made his presentation at FAVE last year I was very excited. The idea of forking the pd-gui to make a much improved interface that could be used with Pd seemed wonderful, sensible, and needed. Several people asked

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote: Actually a thought occured to me: If the arguments of [unpack] should not also specify their types, why do we have these arguments at all? [...] So instead of [unpack 0 0 0] an [unpack 3] would create an unpack with 3 outlets for any kind of atom.

[PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-22 Thread Richard Powell
Hi again, Most of my ideas with pD revolve around different visuals that react in some way to sound. I seem to be progressing fine with the visuals but I've always been a visual person rather than a musician. As such my knowledge of digital audio is poor. I wonder if anyone could point me in

[PD] default value for an abstraction's creation argument

2007-07-22 Thread robbert van hulzen
dear all, i'm wondering how to get a default value for an abstraction argument that is not specified. eg: my abstraction [equality] can take 3 arguments, but i don't want to *have* to type the arguments, in which case the abs should use a default value. i came up with the following solution:

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Andy Farnell wrote: Will I still be able to install the DesireData interface and use it with Pd? You can't use that user interface with Miller's pd because Miller's pd does not offer the functionality required so that this user interface can be implemented. I've never

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Miller Puckette
It's lame, but the idea behind the original design of pack/unpack was to have the argument lists look the same. So, to send a variety of (known-type) data down a send/receive channel or whatnot, one could use pack tea for 2 and a corresponding unpack tea for 2. Of course, that in the unpack

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Thomas Grill
Am 23.07.2007 um 09:54 schrieb Andy Farnell: Why are these great new objects like [tracecall] that Mathieu is building not being added to Pd? The question for me is rather why desiredata announcements are posted into the PD-list given that the codebase has moved away in a way that makes

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-22 Thread Derek Holzer
Here's a partslist for experimentation: * [bonk~] for attack detection * [fiddle~] for pitch detection * [env~] for gain detection, use after [hip~], [lop~] or espc [bp~] to listen to levels of certain frequencies * [rmstodb], [dbtorms] convert between RMS (absolute, linear) gain measurement

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-22 Thread Patrice Colet
Derek Holzer a écrit : * [expr 6/f$1] I always do this typo, ;) begin:vcard fn:Patrice Colet n:Colet;Patrice adr;dom:;;;Nice;;06100 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;cell:06 32 66 03 57 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___

Re: [PD] default value for an abstraction's creation argument

2007-07-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, robbert van hulzen hat gesagt: // robbert van hulzen wrote: dear all, i'm wondering how to get a default value for an abstraction argument that is not specified. eg: my abstraction [equality] can take 3 arguments, but i don't want to *have* to type the arguments, in which case the abs

Re: [PD] default value for an abstraction's creation argument

2007-07-22 Thread robbert van hulzen
thanks, i'll have a look at that. (atm it seems there's sth funny with the paths--it creates, but the [test_dollarg] and [pp set] bits don't create.) cheers, robbert On 7/23/07 12:09 AM, Thomas O Fredericks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best object for this is dollarg from iemlib. Check it out,

Re: [PD] Audio Analasys

2007-07-22 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Check out the 3.Audio : I patches in Pd Help. That's I as in starting at A. The I section is frequency analysis. -Chuckk On 7/22/07, Richard Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, Most of my ideas with pD revolve around different visuals that react in some way to sound. I seem to be

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD workshop, Budapest

2007-07-22 Thread Chuckk Hubbard
Too bad, I will be moving to Romania soon, and I could make the trip, but not before August. Any Pd people in Romania? I'll be in Bucharest at first, perhaps to relocate. I married a Romanian woman who came to the US on a Fulbright scholarship, and one of the agreements she made by accepting

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
On 7/22/07, Thomas Grill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 23.07.2007 um 09:54 schrieb Andy Farnell: Why are these great new objects like [tracecall] that Mathieu is building not being added to Pd? The question for me is rather why desiredata announcements are posted into the PD-list given

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Miller Puckette
Sure enough... It does not work in Pd. I checked and it still worked in Max/FTS vintage 1993, so it's Pd at fault :) M On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 05:12:31PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: It's lame, but the idea behind the original design of

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Miller Puckette wrote: On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 05:12:31PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: There's no way to use tea and for as being default values in that context. Sure enough... It does not work in Pd. I checked and it still worked in Max/FTS vintage 1993, so it's Pd at

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Miller Puckette
But to return to the original question, if my 'improvement' of pack destroys the nice symmetry of pack and unpack arguments, this certainly calls the design of unlack into question, since the only reason its arguments are as they are is that they were designed so in the context of a

Re: [PD] arduino+solenoid concert

2007-07-22 Thread naysayer
i roman, i was just revisiting this thread. could you tell me what solenoids you used, i'm have a really hard time finding cheap domestic solenoids for a similar project. they all seem to be really expensive. is there a good place to purchase cheap solenoids, or somewhere to get second hand ones.

[PD] hidio bug?

2007-07-22 Thread Diego Azar
Hi. I'm using the hidio object with a mouse and it seems there's something I'm not getting. The problem is when routing the list from the rel_x to obtain the x relative axes; the value, sometimes, is greater than abs(1) when the mouse is not moving. Is this behavior correct? Is this a bug? Has

[PD] GEM installation OS 10.3.9 how do I do it?

2007-07-22 Thread Daniel Zajicek
I have downloaded PD, and have been trying to get GEM to work for most of today. I have downloaded Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc4-macosx104-powerpc.dmg from Han's site (http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html), but I continually get errors saying: iemabs: can't load library iemmatrix: can't load library

Re: [PD] default value for an abstraction's creation argument

2007-07-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Frank Barknecht wrote: Almost as elegant as possible with current Pd: Arguments, that you don't specify, get initialized as 0. That's not strictly true: if a dollsym gets expanded using nonexistent arguments, those parts do not get replaced. A_DOLLAR atoms are atoms

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] the end of type restrictions

2007-07-22 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007, Thomas Grill wrote: The question for me is rather why desiredata announcements are posted into the PD-list given that the codebase has moved away in a way that makes it impossible to transfer most of the features. Although I find DD an interesting project, it's