Javier Garcia wrote:
Wellcome Donal,
i think you are speaking about a to much complex aplication to be and
object (at least nowadays).
???
an object can have arbitrary complexity.
you could make a [linux] object, that runs a virtualized full operating
system.
however, the power of Pd
hi lis
this is a big discussion :)
im a long term pd user, and no max user
I vote YES for the segmented patchcords.
i belive that it is not good to use them ALWAYS but i came i the situatuon
when they come in handy
and the user have a chance to choose... if you dont like them do not use
them :-),
Donal Carey wrote:
Hi Derek
Thanks for the reply - to follow on from your info, can I create the
database in PD or would I have to use some other program and then read
from that using PD ?
One way to accomplish that would be using [textfile]s:
file no1. contains the file names of the
Hallo,
Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
I think the key point to take from the whole discussion is that Max/MSP
users have a choice, whilst under Pd we have no choice. It's all very
well justifying how great it is to not
Oops, forgot:
Thomas Mayer wrote:
[read file1(
|
[textfile]
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[read $1]
|
[textfile]
|
[open $1(
|
[pix_film]
|
[pix_texture]
|
--
Prisons are needed only to provide the illusion that courts and police
are effective. They're a kind of job insurance.
(Leto II. in: Frank
As Thomas implicitly suggests, it is often easiest to arrange your clips
with names and directories which your database (i.e. [textfile],
[coll], the iem_matrix objects etc) can easily point to, such as:
/home/donal/clips/slow/
-clip1.mov
hi derek, thomas,,
not sure, i havent read the whole thread but for clips and images
lluis has some objects (i have to try but the suggested link is down
and doesnt resolve for me since few weeks... though all is in CVS)
there is a [videogrid] object gui that do exactly this. you can
download it
Le jeudi 06 décembre 2007 à 08:21 +0100, Frank Barknecht a écrit :
Hallo,
Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
I think the key point to take from the whole discussion is that Max/MSP
users have a choice, whilst under Pd we
PDMTL has a growing number of features going into that direction too, as
well as a preset storage system. It also has very pedagogic aspects :-)
++
O.
Le jeudi 06 décembre 2007 à 12:03 +0100, Derek Holzer a écrit :
As Thomas implicitly suggests, it is often easiest to arrange your clips
Hello folks,
I'm Fabio Buda and I study Electronic Music at Istituto Musicale V.
Bellini of Catania (Sicily). I'd like to create an Italian Wiki of
pdpedia: what can I do?
Thanks
Fabio [mbutUbuntu] Buda
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hey,
i'm trying to use oscSend to send some numeric data to another application.
basically i've got a float between 0 and 1. the receiving application
unpacks the packet, assuming it's a float. the problem is, oscSend packs 0
and 1 as an int, but 0.01 - 0.999 as a float. so on the
I cc'ed the list since I think this is of general interest, also,
other people can contribute there as well.
On Dec 6, 2007, at 5:00 AM, wolfgang schwarzenbrunner wrote:
The pdpedia can actually answer this question:
http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Special:Search?
Damian Stewart wrote:
hey,
is there any simple workaround?
yes, use mrpeach's [udpsend]+[packOSC] objects; they allow you use typed
OSC-messages and whatelse.
mfga.sdr
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Damian Stewart wrote:
hey,
i'm trying to use oscSend to send some numeric data to another application.
basically i've got a float between 0 and 1. the receiving application
unpacks the packet, assuming it's a float. the problem is, oscSend packs 0
and 1 as an int, but 0.01 - 0.999
On Dec 6, 2007, at 2:21 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
I think the key point to take from the whole discussion is that
Max/MSP
users have a choice, whilst under Pd we have no choice.
I think some inlets take both, dsp and messages (throw~ for example).
also, did you think about changing the look between edit and run mode?
marius.
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Dec 5, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Phil Stone wrote:
Martin Peach wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Color really
Yes, definitely, I am thinking of something that combines the two,
like a black box with blue inside. I am going to play with that
more. The problem is that it's trickier to program that, hopefully
it's not too tricky.
.hc
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:48 AM, marius schebella wrote:
I think
Michal Seta wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 10:09 AM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a big problem in max is that there is no undo for segmented patchcords.
once segmented, you can only delete them and redraw to make them not
segmented.
That's not true. Ctl-click on a segmented patchcord,
Just ask! :D I made the IT wiki, now create an account in it, and
post your username here. Then I can make it admin:
http://pdpedia.org/
I don't know if you have any contact with this group, but it looks
like it would be good to get them to help too:
http://puredata.bugslab.net/
On Dec 5, 2007, at 12:45 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Ah segmented patch coords again.
How about a real solution to the problem of routing objects in
diagrams?
In PD this could mean a few things:
1. Best patching practise!!! Often you can choose not to overlap
objects
and connections just
Hi Andrew,
I use both. I am in a graduate class at brooklyn polytech, where josh
goldberg teaches real time video interaction. it is an advanced class,
and there are only 6 people, 3 of them are passionate (professional?)
jitter users, and 2 people started using max in this program, but are
marius schebella wrote:
only iohannes and chris clepper are
working on it
and that means thank you very much!
I am not sure how to really support the work you are doing? if you ever
come up with a wishlist...
marius.
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oh! it depends WHERE you click. thanks!
marius.
vade wrote:
you have to command click on OS X - it works, and on patch coords with
only one knee too. (select the half towards the inlet).
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:48 AM, marius schebella wrote:
Michal Seta wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 10:09 AM,
you have to command click on OS X - it works, and on patch coords with
only one knee too. (select the half towards the inlet).
On Dec 6, 2007, at 10:48 AM, marius schebella wrote:
Michal Seta wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 10:09 AM, marius schebella
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
a big problem in max
In reactable, objects are connected together when inlet/outlet matches
the good kind of data, it would be possible to do it also with PureData,
without breaking the rules.
If a box is dragged nearly another box, the connection would happen
when an inlet/outlet passes into the area of
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, marius schebella wrote:
the most obvious and useful things are the tons of @arguments that each
objects accepts.
Having tons of @arguments is not necessarily a blessing. Wherever Jitter
has four @arguments named red,green,blue,alpha, GridFlow has only one,
which is a
Nicely said, hopefully you can drum up more support for Gem. One
thing I think it really great about Gem is that is remains strongly
visual. When getting heavy into jitter, the patches look like you
are writing in C++ with boxes around it. What I would really like to
see is all those
well, FYI in Jitter you do [jit.someobject @color r g b a] (for
example), or can use a message named color.
Ive never seen or used [jit.someobject @red r @green g @blue b @alpha a]
and jitter also has just about every colorspace conversion possible,
that I have ever seen or dealt with
i read your mail as a pledge for a bounty system - is that right?
Am 06.12.2007 um 20:08 schrieb Kyle Klipowicz:
And this is precisely the unfortunate reason why the open source world
will (almost) always lag behind the commercial world of consumer
software. When developers make their bread
You can do both within jitter, anything that is an attribute is by
virtue of being an attribute also a message - so you can send it via
loadbang, loadmess or whenever/however you want, so its up to you to
choose how you want your patch to work :)
On Dec 6, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Hans-Christoph
Now there's an idea! If some donations could be had to offer up bounty
money, I'd say
a few more of us would be inclined to pitch in. Also, has pd been in the
Goggle Summer of Code?
... I'm unfamiliar with the dev setup but have there been any coding camps
where people get
together to just
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, vade wrote:
well, FYI in Jitter you do [jit.someobject @color r g b a] (for
example), or can use a message named color. Ive never seen or used
[jit.someobject @red r @green g @blue b @alpha a]
I forgot to say that it applies only to some of the classes in Jitter.
For
Hallo,
Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
And this is precisely the unfortunate reason why the open source world
will (almost) always lag behind the commercial world of consumer
software. When developers make their bread and butter based upon if
the consumer buys, they're
If I were running a commercial software firm and software made by random
people in their spare time compared pretty well with my pricey software, I
would be a little concerned.
On Dec 6, 2007 1:08 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And this is precisely the unfortunate reason why the
Hi,
I think -noprefs should stop .pdrc as well, since it's in the spirit
that is great news! Btw, is there a document on the available options in
.pdsettings?
For example:
Does defeatrt: 0 imply -rt?
Otherwise, how does one set -rt?
Which Audio-API is which number?
Let me take the opportunity
Thanks for all the info guys - will post the patch up if I get it working.
Cheers
Donal
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hello folks,
I've just translated the Firts Page of the italian wiki...
here there is the IT translation of infobox
# wikipedia terms
$stub = matrice;
$template = modello;
$category = categoria;
$infobox = casella informativa;
# pdpedia terms
$objectclass = classe di oggetti;
# page headers
On 12/5/07, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are using GEM, then look at [pix_image], [pix_film] and
[pix_movie]. You'll need to develop some sort of rudimentary database
to catalog and access the images and clips, of course...
As far as the Database stuff goes, if you would
Yes, a bounty system would be great. At this point, if you are not a
student, Max/MSP/Jitter costs about $850 US. I think that (myself
included) many Pd users would gladly shell out a few dollars to see
features met. I for one have donated to Hans' efforts directly on his
site via PayPal, because
I also think that megaobjects that accept many messages/attributes
become more like application preferences rather than programming, and
that usually limits the possibilities. For example, in C, a function
with more than 5 parameters starts to get quite ugly and unwieldy.
In LISP, which
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Moreover, the code has already been desired and written, just not been
implemented in vanilla.
excuse me, which version of pd really allows you to edit and save cord
segmentations?
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On Dec 6, 2007 10:46 AM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
no real multitexture support for opengl. that is a must, if you want to
work with shader languages like glsl.
Multitexturing works fine. The only drawback is that only texcoords from
the texture unit in the chain with the
This is an interesting viewpoint -
at what point does providing all of these options just get in my way
and make me not think about creating my own solutions - and thus
really really making it mine - while extending my knowledge
Im not sure, I can tell you ive had to make plenty of my own
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
I for one have donated to Hans' efforts directly on his
site via PayPal,
now it's out, YOU were the one...
marius.
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yes, test 09 look good. whatever the screen resolution is.
(at least on my ubuntu computer)
thanks
Cyrille
Miller Puckette a écrit :
OK test09, hopefully, fixes it :)
I've got a long list of bugs to try to fix... otherwise I'm probably
not going to try to add any more features to
I have no idea how complicated this stuff really is. from the user's
viewpoint it looked like some lines of code, that needed to be added.
and I know that it is even harder if you are alone in your problem
solving...
marius.
chris clepper wrote:
On Dec 6, 2007 10:46 AM, marius schebella [EMAIL
Miller Puckette wrote:
Well, not much has happened, but the test version is stable enough it
seems better to work toward a stable version of teh present state than
to try to add all the features I want to put in next :)
that sounds even better!
i'll get my wishlist engine running before soon
Miller Puckette wrote:
OK test09, hopefully, fixes it :)
I've got a long list of bugs to try to fix... otherwise I'm probably
not going to try to add any more features to this release before
canning it.
i have jut assigned you some more patches in the patchtracker at
sourceforge...;-)
Well, not much has happened, but the test version is stable enough it
seems better to work toward a stable version of teh present state than
to try to add all the features I want to put in next :)
M
On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 01:17:19AM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Miller Puckette wrote:
oh, forgot
find last error, even if this does not work all the time, it really
helped me save a lot of time.
plus find feature is also not implemented in max.
marius.
marius schebella wrote:
hi,
after all the complaining, here is a list of features that are special
to pd.
* open source: you
hey...
On Dec 6, 2007 5:50 PM, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
I for one have donated to Hans' efforts directly on his
site via PayPal,
now it's out, YOU were the one...
marius.
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On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 04:24:42PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Moreover, the code has already been desired and written, just not been
implemented in vanilla.
excuse me, which version of pd really allows you to edit and save cord
segmentations?
Le 6 déc. 07 à 22:05, Kyle Klipowicz a écrit :
Yes, a bounty system would be great. At this point, if you are not a
student, Max/MSP/Jitter costs about $850 US. I think that (myself
included) many Pd users would gladly shell out a few dollars to see
features met. I for one have donated to
hi,
after all the complaining, here is a list of features that are special
to pd.
* open source: you can always dig into the deep universe of code to see
how things are done. and change things according to your needs
* no licencing: that means you don't pay money to be allowed to program
in pd.
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 07:45:41PM -0500, marius schebella wrote:
* no licencing: that means you don't pay money to be allowed to program
in pd. (the player is free also in max). but it also means that you
don't have to fiddle around with the licence when you install (which
usually takes a
hi,
i compiled freeverb~ without any problem, but the controls are not
modifying the sound. a theora video of the problem can be seen here:
http://www.workinprogress.ca/pd/pdmtl/freeverbbug.ogg
(vlc, mplayer etc...).
i am on linux / pentium 4.
freeverb~ v1.2
pat
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 01:26 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
i'll get my wishlist engine running before soon with stuff like:
- 64bit-pd (that is, not just run pd on an amd64; but have
t_float/t_sample be *large*)
does that mean, that every float in pd on an 64bit machine will have
64bit
On Dec 6, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Daniel Wilcox wrote:
Now there's an idea! If some donations could be had to offer up
bounty money, I'd say
a few more of us would be inclined to pitch in.
Patches welcome! ;) Seriously, if anyone wants to set this up, I
think it could work. In the past,
Perhaps it's an aliasing bug, I know freeverb has some non-strick
aliases. Basically, you need to compiling it with less optimization.
How about the freeverb included in Pd-extended?
.hc
On Dec 6, 2007, at 8:54 PM, patrick wrote:
hi,
i compiled freeverb~ without any problem, but the
So now the next step is building a system that lets you have the ease
of jitter with the flexibility of Pd :D
.hc
On Dec 6, 2007, at 5:42 PM, vade wrote:
This is an interesting viewpoint -
at what point does providing all of these options just get in my
way and make me not think about
hi hans,
it's the freeverb~ from pd-extended using:
cd pure-data/packages/ make patch
cd linux_make
make install
(a very recent checkout-developer-layout.sh
http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/scripts/checkout-developer-layout.sh?rev=HEAD)
patrick
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Chris McCormick wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 04:24:42PM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, Olivier Heinry wrote:
Moreover, the code has already been desired and written, just not been
implemented in vanilla.
excuse me, which version of pd really allows
On Fri, 7 Dec 2007, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 01:26 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
i'll get my wishlist engine running before soon with stuff like:
- 64bit-pd (that is, not just run pd on an amd64; but have
t_float/t_sample be *large*)
does that mean, that every float in pd
hi
i wanted to play with [tabread~~] and checked out a fresh zexy and
compiled and it went fine. when instantiating [tabread~~], i get an
error though:
load_object: Symbol setup_tabread40x7e_tild not found
tabread4~~
... couldn't create
grep -d recurse setup_tabread40x7e_tild externals/
On Thu, 6 Dec 2007, marius schebella wrote:
find last error, even if this does not work all the time, it really
helped me save a lot of time.
Btw, find last error in DesireData works pretty much all of the time.
In PureData, find last error relies on the good will of external (and
internal)
Roman Haefeli wrote:
hi
i wanted to play with [tabread~~] and checked out a fresh zexy and
compiled and it went fine. when instantiating [tabread~~], i get an
error though:
this is a bug in Pd's hexloader that has been fixed in the latest and
greatest 0.41-test release.
altenatively you
Chris McCormick wrote:
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 07:45:41PM -0500, marius schebella wrote:
In fact, Pd has such a free license that you can even fork it and make
your own closed-source commercial product out of it if you want. The
only requirement is that you include the license and copyright.
Hi all,
Metastudio v0.2 is released. Some bugfixes (e.g. the sequencers now copies the
current pattern properly when new is banged) and some improvements - the
demoresynthfx patch contains an explaination of some machines, and a new effect
- tabmask~ - an FFT phaser.
get it here:
On Fri, 2007-12-07 at 08:00 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Roman Haefeli wrote:
hi
i wanted to play with [tabread~~] and checked out a fresh zexy and
compiled and it went fine. when instantiating [tabread~~], i get an
error though:
this is a bug in Pd's hexloader that has been
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