[PD] questions for everibody...

2008-01-13 Thread David Schaffer
A little poll: -According to you, what is THE feature/fonction/object that Pd misses the most? -What Pd feature/fonction/object causes you the most problems? Thanks for your contribution! http://www.flickr.com/photos/schafferdavid/

Re: [PD] questions for everibody...

2008-01-13 Thread cdr
On Sun Jan 13, 2008 at 12:35:38PM +0100, David Schaffer wrote: A little poll: -According to you, what is THE feature/fonction/object that Pd misses the most? uniformity in implementation allowing reuse and clean abstraction across the levels. with blackbox objects written in C, orthogonal

Re: [PD] Pix_record issue

2008-01-13 Thread Olivier Heinry
Le Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:54:59 +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Oli44 wrote: 2007/12/30, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Olivier Heinry wrote: Hi, there's a problem with the pix_record object which is

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
On Jan 12, 2008 1:18 PM, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many abstraction collections are sloppy when handling this. (Even abstractions by pd-extended advocates can forget to always fully specify the full names of abstractions with import or a prefix. I don't want to point fingers,

Re: [PD] Using GEM for a music visualizer

2008-01-13 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Ross, Running GEM and PD for audio in the same instance isn't such a good idea. Better to keep the threads separate. Normally, if I want to use both together I run two different instances of PD, and communicate between them with OSC. One for the GEM and one for the audio. On OSX, you may

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi Luke, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: I know Pd-E does this to be as easy as possible to set up for new users, but at the same time perhaps it is best that a new user sticks with the vanilla objects anyways, and if they're really interested in more objects, they can learn how to use the

Re: [PD] Problems to substract

2008-01-13 Thread raul diaz
Hi! I think a counter approach with a changing jump could be the easiest way as Frank suggested, and no c/c++ programation would be necessary (Pd is easier!). Look at attached patch Javier! My two cents! ;-) Saludos. 2008/1/3, Steffen Leve Poulsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Javier You could

Re: [PD] questions for everibody...

2008-01-13 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting cdr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -What Pd feature/fonction/object causes you the most problems? lack of proper 64 bit support what are you missing? gmadsr IOhannes This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
On Jan 13, 2008 5:24 AM, Derek Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I strongly disagree. Most beginners want to play with high-level objects that do a lot of the programming for them, rather than dive deep into data flow etc. Do we give them what they want, or do we do what's good for them? I

Re: [PD] questions for everibody...

2008-01-13 Thread hard off
who has problems with crashing? on os x, pd is super stable for me. don't think i've ever had a crash unless i did something really stupid. does it crash on linux or windows??? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] pix_gain problem on Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing

2008-01-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour This is my first post to the pd-list. I have seen a problem on Ubuntu-Studio 7.10 Gutsy + Pd-0.39.3-extended-debian-testing-i386.deb (25 10 2007): Gem [pix_gain] display a black image to see the problem: examples - Gem - 04.pix - 17.pix_gain - The

Re: [PD] PD Server

2008-01-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Agent Engram wrote: will output binary data in the form of lists of byte-values. so this may be a misunderstanding. I am writing my own server that intercepts the OCS events, that all works. what I am trying to figure out is since you keep calling it OCS, i guess my assumption that you mean

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: I know Pd-E does this to be as easy as possible to set up for new users, but at the same time perhaps it is best that a new user sticks with the vanilla objects anyways, and if they're really interested in

[PD] Max's [!/] as a Pd abstraction

2008-01-13 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi folks, This is ultra-simple, but I find it so useful that I thought I'd make it available. Basically it's an abstraction that provides functionality equivalent to Max's [!/], [!-] etc. With these objects the inlets are in the opposite order to the operands. The pd abstraction is essentially

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Damian Stewart
Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: I know Pd-E does this to be as easy as possible to set up for new users, but at the same time perhaps it is best that a new user sticks with the vanilla objects anyways, and if they're really interested in more objects, they can learn how to use the directory prefixes

[PD] [OT] Diagrams of the Day

2008-01-13 Thread Alexandre Castonguay
Hi all, I have compiled a list of about 300 'Diagrams of the Day' that have been posted on the #dataflow channel over the past couple years. Just like the original posters, I thought they may be intriguing to others. http://artengine.ca/acastonguay/dotd Cheers, Alexandre -=-=-

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Derek Holzer
Hi all, Damian Stewart wrote: 1) download Pd 2) download awesome super rad pre-made patch 3) open awesome super rad pre-made patch and scratch heads when it doesn't work because they don't have particular externals My point precisely. Or, as someone told me their Dutch media-arts

Re: [PD] Max's [!/] as a Pd abstraction

2008-01-13 Thread Jamie Bullock
On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 17:17 +, Jamie Bullock wrote: The pd abstraction is essentially syntactic sugar, so instead of doing: |0.4( | [t b a] |/ |1( / | / [- ] You can just do: |0.4( | [! - 1] As someone just pointed out to me, this is also syntactic sugar for the

Re: [PD] adding externals to search path

2008-01-13 Thread hard off
1) make a folder on your harddisk called 'pd-externals' or something. 2) in the taskbar of pd, go into preferences-path….there will be no space to add a new path, but you can do it this way: on an existing line, without adding any spaces, add a colon and then the path to 'pd-externals' so, for

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread hard off
pd extended gets you rocking in the free world. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] great sense of melody

2008-01-13 Thread hard off
beautiful melodic piece made using a pd sampler: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2aXxgICaZwUeurl=http://mixi.jp/view_diary.pl?id=681897923owner_id=15888475 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Andy Farnell
Its a good point Damien. And to expand on it let's say it's not a personality type but a mode of working or a level of comfort. We all do it in one way or another, indeed we must to accomplish anything. We could take this to any level and find the same. Going down one level we can say there are

Re: [PD] Max's [!/] as a Pd abstraction

2008-01-13 Thread Jack
You also have : |1 0.4( | [- ] ++ Jack Le 13 janv. 08 à 19:55, Jamie Bullock a écrit : On Sun, 2008-01-13 at 17:17 +, Jamie Bullock wrote: The pd abstraction is essentially syntactic sugar, so instead of doing: |0.4( | [t b a] |/ |1( / | / [- ] You can just do: |0.4(

Re: [PD] Max's [!/] as a Pd abstraction

2008-01-13 Thread Andy Farnell
Funny, I was just saying to Jamie about the more than one way to do it and how old working habits die hard. I've started to use list input distrubution much more recently, but still find I do things the old way by force of habit. Maybe, as a personal choice, I find explicit operations are a bit

[PD] performance with puredata + midi controller

2008-01-13 Thread Damian Stewart
hey, here's a performance i did in Eindhoven, NL (to a crowd of about six people, haha) on a freezing cold Wednesday last month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YlQxFmeV1k it's Pd + MIDI controller + pop music. this is just an edited excerpt, one day i'll put the full video up on my website.

Re: [PD] adding externals to search path

2008-01-13 Thread Damian Stewart
hard off wrote: 1) make a folder on your harddisk called 'pd-externals' or something. 2) in the taskbar of pd, go into preferences-path….there will be no space to add a new path, but you can do it this way: on an existing line, without adding any spaces, add a colon and then the path to

Re: [PD] performance with puredata + midi controller

2008-01-13 Thread Phil Stone
Very nice! Phil Damian Stewart wrote: hey, here's a performance i did in Eindhoven, NL (to a crowd of about six people, haha) on a freezing cold Wednesday last month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YlQxFmeV1k it's Pd + MIDI controller + pop music. this is just an edited excerpt, one

[PD] Installing pd-extended binaries on Mac OSX 10.4 intel

2008-01-13 Thread Dudley Brooks
Newbie question: I downloaded 0.39.3-extended for MacIntel, for a MacBook Pro with OSX 10.4. None of the extensions work. I had previously downloaded the binaries for Gem, to go with vanilla pd 0.40.2. Following the instructions in an included text file, I had put Gem.pd_darwin in the Extra

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread marius schebella
I think with pd-extended many decisions just happened. the goal was to get a lot of libraries included to make installation and distribution of an extended version of pd easy - not only for new users. In the case of counter, there are at least two objectclasses, the one from cyclone (cloning

[PD] NEVER MIND, was Re: Installing pd-extended binaries on Mac OSX 10.4 intel

2008-01-13 Thread Dudley Brooks
I found the answer at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers-0.39.2-extended-rc4.html namely, trashing the old .plist file, since the newer version has embedded preferences. -- Dudley Dudley Brooks wrote: Newbie question: I downloaded 0.39.3-extended for MacIntel, for a MacBook Pro with OSX

Re: [PD] problems with pdmtlabs

2008-01-13 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi libero unfortunately i am not able to answer your question directly but probably people from the pdmtl-abs mailing list are. http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Mail roman On Sat, 2008-01-12 at 23:05 +0100, Libero Mureddu wrote: Merci beaucoup, but unfortunately I dont have the

Re: [PD] Max's [!/] as a Pd abstraction

2008-01-13 Thread hard off
[0.4 ( | [- 1] | [abs] ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] counter + list of objects

2008-01-13 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Hm, I don't think this is really about trying to force new people into grappling with arcanum, or telling them what's best, so much as it is about what is actually best for Pd as a community, the benefits of which will also touch new people. If we want to encourage a large library of these

Re: [PD] performance with puredata + midi controller

2008-01-13 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Yeah, I like it very much! Keep posting : ) An overview of your midi controller use would be interesting... as I said I'm nearing completion of a library for that very purpose so I'd be keen on knowing how other people are using their 0-127s. Cheers Luke On Jan 13, 2008 2:25 PM, Phil Stone

Re: [PD] great sense of melody

2008-01-13 Thread hard off
ah yeah. so cute ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Pd version 0.41-0 test 10 - path crashing

2008-01-13 Thread Miller Puckette
OK, this should be fixed the next test version - thanks for warning me. Miller On Fri, Jan 04, 2008 at 02:29:44AM -0500, patrick wrote: hi miller, thanks for the effort on 0.41 test 10, i can edit more externals from Startup screen (38 on in 1280x1024) but pd-extended + xsample, py etc..