Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Luigi
That means: the only workaround is to use pd-vanilla for now ?? This leads to anoher question: What is the best way then to use pd- vanilla but with the externals and documentation from pd-extended ??? was that discussed before ?? Grüße Luigi Am 10.02.2009 um 03:34 schrieb Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: I only see two options: I see a third option: $0 is not only different from the $-variables in message boxes, but it's also different from the $-variables used as object arguments.[1] So another way out would be to replace only $0 with

Re: [PD] resizing samples, noob question

2009-02-10 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Andrew Faraday hat gesagt: // Andrew Faraday wrote: Hey guysI'm trying to create a patch that play samples 'at speed' but which is then variable. I need an equation to turn the number of samples in a table into the length of the sound file in seconds. Using this I should be able to

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread zmoelnig
Quoting Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org: Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: I only see two options: I see a third option: $0 is not only different from the $-variables in message boxes, but it's also different from the $-variables used as object arguments.[1] So another

Re: [PD] Crasher bug found...

2009-02-10 Thread Luke Iannini
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu wrote: Thanks -- that was just what I needed to find it... here's a patch that should fix it. I'll be puttint up a new bugfix release after I manage to clean up another couple of problems. Hi Miller, a little late, but

[PD] String Port

2009-02-10 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, look at this: http://www.keithmcmillen.com/stringport/index.html It's Miller's pd~conv Montreal paper in hardware. Congratulation! Actually I found this URL in a comment of bonk~.c when trying to make it use canvas_open() Ciao -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _

[PD] japanese encoded chars in PD

2009-02-10 Thread august
hey'aw. Can anyone give me hand on handling Japanese character encodings in PD. I feel like I've read every document on character encodings and still don't understand the messeven for my own pragrams that work with text. Is there a way to handle UTF-8 in PD? thanks -august.

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Phil Stone
Frank Barknecht wrote: I see a third option: $0 is not only different from the $-variables in message boxes, but it's also different from the $-variables used as object arguments.[1] So another way out would be to replace only $0 with something like #0. Yes. This, at least, would end the

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote: I don't know why, but it makes parsing Pd patches 1000x less straightforward than required (you need a two-phase parser that has a special exception to detect message boxes and not expand dollars, allowing the message box objects to parse them

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Messages don't have anything comparable to the canvas' $0. A possible alternative use for $0 in messages would be the selector (list, symbol, ...) as that is the thing before $1, but implementing that could be even more confusing to beginners. Why

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, zmoel...@iem.at wrote: i think it is simple, if the users understand the philosophical idea behind $args in message-boxes vs objects. hence my long explanations. once you understand what you are doing, it becomes quite simple to make Pd what you want (and why it does make

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Messages don't have anything comparable to the canvas' $0. A possible alternative use for $0 in messages would be the selector (list, symbol, ...) as that is the thing before $1, but

Re: [PD] div vs. / i

2009-02-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Thanks a lot for the explanation. Would it be possible to add a help patch to pd, something like the one attached? div, mod, and % currently default to otherbinops-help.pd but aren't included in that patch. It would be better if you used [*] and

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Messages don't have anything comparable to the canvas' $0. A possible alternative use for $0 in messages would be the selector (list, symbol, ...) as

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Jack
There is already [route] to get the selectors bang, symbol, list, float and only 'other'. But it would be nice to have something like this : [33 hello -4.5 world( | [$0( | [print] and get print: list not 0 as now or [open mytext.txt 45( | [$0( | [print] and get print: open not 0 as now

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: But it does make a lot more sense if we don't think about how else it could have been and instead just accept it as it is... the winter sunshine, cold hands connecting boxes; Pd crashed again. [bang(/[until], Chris.

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Phil Stone
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: Messages don't have anything comparable to the canvas' $0. I missed this the first time it went by, and I think it's central to (my) confusion

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Matt Barber
From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org [1] Actually the $-variables 1,2,3,... in message boxes and those in object boxes aren't that different, because the contents of object boxes also are messages to Pd's objectmaker and they are used explicitely as messages when doing dynamic patching.

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Chris McCormick wrote: the winter sunshine, cold hands connecting boxes; Pd crashed again. [bang(/[until], #N canvas 599 200 450 300 10; #X obj 30 49 t a; #X obj 0 0 loadbang; #X obj 0 19 t a a; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 2 1 0

[PD] exporting gem structures to cad

2009-02-10 Thread punchik punchik
Hello, i was experimenting with gem combining diferent generatives techniques to create 3d iterative complex shapes. I would like to use these structures for architecture and I was wondering if its possible to export the generated structures to other 3d modelling software or maybe to autocad,

Re: [PD] japanese encoded chars in PD

2009-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
august wrote: hey'aw. Can anyone give me hand on handling Japanese character encodings in PD. I feel like I've read every document on character encodings and still don't understand the messeven for my own pragrams that work with text. Is there a way to handle UTF-8 in PD? hmm,

Re: [PD] Crasher bug found...

2009-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Mathieu Bouchard wrote: if (!s-s_name) s = gensym(file.%d); vs if (!*s-s_name) s = gensym(file.%d); Because Pd uses s_ as default value for a symbol arg, not a null pointer, so s-s_name is never considered false... same bug, really. btw, this has been fixed in some bugfix release

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Jack wrote: What do you think ? s this is basically what frank has been suggesting and what matju and me have kind-of supported. it would have been good if it was like that in the first place. the rest frank, matju and me have written about it is, that it would be a bad idea to add this to Pd as

Re: [PD] exporting gem structures to cad

2009-02-10 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
punchik punchik wrote: Hello, i was experimenting with gem combining diferent generatives techniques to create 3d iterative complex shapes. I would like to use these structures for architecture and I was wondering if its possible to export the generated structures to other 3d modelling

[PD] one gui for diferent subpatches

2009-02-10 Thread punchik punchik
Hi , i would like to use one gui to control diferent gem subpatches, one per time, for example i have 5 gem subpatches each one with a different gemhead but 4 of them are turned off, each one of these subpatches has a set of recievers from the gui, so with the gui i just control the values of

[PD] MIDI on OSX

2009-02-10 Thread enrique franco
Hi, How can I play MIDI sounds from PD in OSX? It is necessary to have another MIDI software running? Can I just play General MIDI from PD? Cheers, -- Enrique Franco Telefono/Phone: +572 5552334 ext 388 Webpage: http://richie.idc.ul.ie/~enrique/ http://www.iua.upf.es/~ffranco/pfm.htm

Re: [PD] exporting gem structures to cad

2009-02-10 Thread cyrille henry
hello, i did use the same kind of technic to create .obj file, that i open and convert in blender. here is an extern i make to speed things up and exemple how to export to a obj file... (works only with cubes) cyrille Claude Heiland-Allen a écrit : punchik punchik wrote: Hello, i was

Re: [PD] MIDI on OSX

2009-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: - build your own synthesizer which could be controlled by MIDI. if you are truely lazy, there's an object called [fluid~] that let's you import soundfonts... to be more precise: i meant that you can build your own software synthesizer in Pd (you can also build your

Re: [PD] exporting gem structures to cad

2009-02-10 Thread marius schebella
hi, there was some talk about exporting gem to obj files on the gem-dev list. but afaik nobody got it working. I think the closest was an object by cyrille, which probably never made it into the svn... http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/gem-dev/2008-02/003303.html there are also some

Re: [PD] MIDI on OSX

2009-02-10 Thread Max
there is a wrapper application which lets you use the general midi instruments in quicktime http://notahat.com/simplesynth/ it's only 204 KB big. this is the simplest solution afaik. Am 10.02.2009 um 19:45 schrieb enrique franco: Hi, How can I play MIDI sounds from PD in OSX? It is

Re: [PD] japanese encoded chars in PD

2009-02-10 Thread august
august wrote: hey'aw. Can anyone give me hand on handling Japanese character encodings in PD. I feel like I've read every document on character encodings and still don't understand the messeven for my own pragrams that work with text. Is there a way to handle UTF-8 in

[PD] [PD-announce] Pure Data Basics: a Project-Oriented Workshop with Derek Holzer

2009-02-10 Thread Derek Holzer
Pure Data Basics: a Project-Oriented Workshop with Derek Holzer Wednesday 11 March - Sunday 15 March 2009 11.00-19.00 daily with one hour lunch break Final presentation Sunday 15 March, 19.00 Location: eNKa / ElsenStr. 52 (2.Hof) Berlin, Germany Telephone: +49 (0)176 20626386 Course

Re: [PD] japanese encoded chars in PD

2009-02-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 10, 2009, at 3:14 PM, august wrote: august wrote: hey'aw. Can anyone give me hand on handling Japanese character encodings in PD. I feel like I've read every document on character encodings and still don't understand the messeven for my own pragrams that work with text.

Re: [PD] String Port

2009-02-10 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Beautiful objects!!! On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: Hi, look at this: http://www.keithmcmillen.com/stringport/index.html It's Miller's pd~conv Montreal paper in hardware. Congratulation! Actually I found this URL in a comment of bonk~.c when trying