Re: [PD] big soundfiles

2010-11-23 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/23/2010 04:04 AM, Bernardo Barros wrote: how big? if it is really big (2gb), maybe you may try wave64 format. you may, but Pd proper does not support anything like that. [readanysf~] may be able to read them though. fgmasdr IOhannes

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread João Pais
Hi, this sounds great. I might have a chance to try it next week (back to dsl), if I have a break. But some questions in advance: - is there a release program? are the testers to make sure the implementations are working well, or do you still take requests? - what is going to happen to

Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-23 Thread chrism
Hi, No, but there could/should be. I wish I had the time and motivation to do that. Technically it would not be difficult at all, just time consuming. There is also this for Firefox 4: http://code.google.com/p/web-pure-data I have not been contributing much but you can see that Brandon and

Re: [PD] big soundfiles

2010-11-23 Thread João Pais
I usually use the [wavinfo] to know how big a file is, and then maxsize $1 to set an array to the necessary size. Maybe it would make sense to remove this 4M samples boundary from Pd? there are more and more people for whom that's just in the way. João Check the help patch for

Re: [PD] 200 voices of timbre-space navigation

2010-11-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:47:43PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These are based on voicepoly/voicepolywrap, which aims to be an easy-to-use replacement for nqpoly4. Is there a special reason tha I'm missing for voicepoly using [initbang] instead of [loadbang]? Ciao -- Frank

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] many - a library for managing many instances

2010-11-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi Hans-Christoph, just a quick note before I take a deeper look: The archive 0.0.20101122 misses [bundle], instead it has polypoly. You can of course keep polypoly in, if you like. :) Ciao -- Frank On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:49:49PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I finally got off my

Re: [PD] GridFlow on Android

2010-11-23 Thread chrism
On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 00:15:45 -0400 (EDT), Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Got GridFlow on Android working, with no options at all. Cool! Therefore, [#out window] does not work, and there's no other form of window output, because there is no x11, no quartz, no sdl, no aalib, no tk,

Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-23 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
Hi Chris, I also know about the web-pure-data and it seems really interesting for adding e.g. 'generative audio' to the web (I see it similar to SVG in a way). What also interests me about your project (if I understood correctly how it works, because I have no android myself and couldn't

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] many - a library for managing many instances

2010-11-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi Hans, these look pretty cool and very useful. The rj library has two polypoly-like objects as well: [u_makepoly] and [u_robinpoly] (of course the latter don't require any externals or modifications to vanilla Pd). I have found in some benchmarks, that the [inlet]---[route 0 1 2 3 ...]

[PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]

2010-11-23 Thread Ingo
Hi everybody, I just noticed a very strange behaviour concerning [phasor~]. It started when I wanted to replace [phasor~] with [creb/blosc~]. Normally they should sound pretty much the same except for the obvious aliasing problem of [phaser~]. Then I noticed that in some cases they

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Ico cd pd/src make distclean aclocal autoconf ./configure (with flags you wish to use, typically --prefix=/usr --enable-jack --enable-alsa) make cp pd.tk ../bin (old stale one crept into the tarball inside the bin directory--I will fix this shortly and reupload the tarball) at that point

Re: [PD] big soundfiles

2010-11-23 Thread Derek Holzer
And keep in mind that sound quality goes down as file size goes up. This is because of the interpolation. You might do better cutting your file up and putting it into several different arrays. D. On 11/23/10 4:16 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Check the help patch for soundfiler, you'll

[PD] Invitation à se connecter sur LinkedIn

2010-11-23 Thread Pierre-yves Fave via LinkedIn
LinkedIn Pierre-yves Fave requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: -- Barry, J'aimerais vous inviter à rejoindre mon réseau professionnel en ligne, sur le site LinkedIn. Pierre-yves Accept invitation from Pierre-yves Fave

Re: [PD] GridFlow on Android

2010-11-23 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
OMG...nice! José 2010/11/23 chrism ch...@mccormick.cx On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 00:15:45 -0400 (EDT), Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Got GridFlow on Android working, with no options at all. Cool! Therefore, [#out window] does not work, and there's no other form of window

Re: [PD] GridFlow on Android

2010-11-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, chrism wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 00:15:45 -0400 (EDT), Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Got GridFlow on Android working, with no options at all. Cool! Unfortunately, we got stuck with bugs that we don't know how to get out of. Some weird crashes at startup,

[PD] pd conferences

2010-11-23 Thread richard duckworth
Hi all, are there any pd conferences or mini-conferences planned for next year? I'm asking because we are thinking of organising a mini-conference involving pd in Dublin with a tentative date somewhere in the first week of April? All the best, Rich  Rich Duckworth Lecturer in Music Technology

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
It appears your also missing tk dev libraries ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ico cd pd/src make distclean aclocal autoconf ./configure (with flags you wish to use, typically --prefix=/usr --enable-jack --enable-alsa) make cp pd.tk ../bin (old stale one crept into the

Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]

2010-11-23 Thread Ingo
The thing I'm really afraid of is: Do subpatches with several [phasor~] used as a audiosignals produce a different result as intended without summing up in total over 1. Especially as in my cases where I'm using lots of [phasor~] mostly for amplitude modulation and most of the time they are not

Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]

2010-11-23 Thread Derek Holzer
Did you try graphing the output of the combined [phasor~] objects? To me, it seems likely that the lack of a zero-crossing in the [phasor~] waveform would create a large amount of DC offset, and perhaps that is what you are hearing. [creb/blosc~], [osc~] and pretty much any other audio

Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]

2010-11-23 Thread Ingo
Hi Derek, that's it !!! I just subtracted 0.5 from the [phasor~] outlet and now it behaves as expected. Thank you! Now I have to find all the [phasor~] objects in my patches und change it there. Using [blosc~] is just too expensive for simply producing some slight dirt modulations. Ingo

Re: [PD] pd conferences

2010-11-23 Thread Malte Steiner
On 23.11.2010 14:00, richard duckworth wrote: Hi all, are there any pd conferences or mini-conferences planned for next year? I'm asking because we are thinking of organising a mini-conference involving pd in Dublin with a tentative date somewhere in the first week of April? All the best, Rich

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
- is there a release program? are the testers to make sure the implementations are working well, or do you still take requests? Not only requests but also active contributions are very much welcome. Ideally, patches provided would be both pd vanilla and our pd-compatible, so that

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Ok, this is looking familiar-- have a look at tidy-test.pd, select each group of objects one at a time and do 'tidy up': 1. Works as it should. 2. Objects are below the y-threshold, so they (understandably) collapse. 3. Works as it should. 4. Objects spaced 30 px apart vertically seem

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Thanks Ico, it's working now- no errors- *Really* sorry to be a pain but can I ask how I can easily point pd to pick up my libraries, Gem etc, other than inputting the folders and binary names one by one from start up paths menu? Thanks again ! Al On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Ivica

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!! yeh! sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extended based on this license. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:18 AM, ydego...@free.fr wrote: jooo, que espeso ... i told you 1 times not to package my

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Thanks Ico, it's working now- no errors- Really sorry to be a pain but can I ask how I can easily point pd to pick up my libraries, Gem etc, other than inputting the folders and binary names one by one from start up paths menu? Thanks again ! Al Assuming you've been using

Re: [PD] 200 voices of timbre-space navigation

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hi, On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:47:43PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: These are based on voicepoly/voicepolywrap, which aims to be an easy-to-use replacement for nqpoly4. Is there a special reason tha I'm missing for voicepoly

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread John Harrison
Yves: It's your code so you get to choose. From my standpoint as an educator, removal of PiDiP from pd-extended is very unfortunate. I hope at some point you reconsider your position. -John On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:46 AM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: good!!! i'm free to do

Re: [PD] 200 voices of timbre-space navigation

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Its really simple when you look at it, just checkout voicetest~.pd, that's it, multiplied by 200. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Phil Stone wrote: Really, really great, Hans! I'm having a lot of fun with this, and look forward to digging into it to figure out how it works... Phil

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] many - a library for managing many instances

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That was just a preliminary release, check the SVN for the most up-to- date (also I think I updated the tarball to have [bundle]). The dynamic send idea is interesting, especially since you benchmarked it. How did you benchmark it? That would be useful. Also, did you try making the

Re: [PD] big soundfiles

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think iemlib/soundfile_info is less buggy than ext13/wavinfo these days. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:44 AM, João Pais wrote: I usually use the [wavinfo] to know how big a file is, and then maxsize $1 to set an array to the necessary size. Maybe it would make sense to remove this 4M

Re: [PD] 200 voices of timbre-space navigation

2010-11-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:57:26AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Is there a special reason tha I'm missing for voicepoly using [initbang] instead of [loadbang]? It makes the coding much easier, IMHO. Also, it gives the possibilities

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] many - a library for managing many instances

2010-11-23 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:28:12PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: That was just a preliminary release, check the SVN for the most up-to- date (also I think I updated the tarball to have [bundle]). The dynamic send idea is interesting, especially since you benchmarked it. How

Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]

2010-11-23 Thread Derek Holzer
Have a look here: http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/DCOffset My basic formula is [*~ 2] | [-~ 1] Best! D. On 11/23/10 3:18 PM, Ingo wrote: Hi Derek, that's it !!! I just subtracted 0.5 from the [phasor~] outlet and now it behaves as expected. Thank you! Now I have to find all the

Re: [PD] 200 voices of timbre-space navigation

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:57:26AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:52 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Is there a special reason tha I'm missing for voicepoly using [initbang] instead of [loadbang]? It makes the

Re: [PD] many - a library for managing many instances

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, I refactored voices~.pd (previously known as voicepoly) so that it no longer uses [initbang]. It turns out the rest of the 'many' lib was already using [loadbang]. Also I just remembered another advantage to using [initbang]: you can create a [throw~] to have audio inlets, and Pd

Re: [PD] 200 voices of timbre-space navigation

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ah, excellent! Please keep me posted, this library is very much a work in progress. I want to make it as easy to use as possible, while being super flexible. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Phil Stone wrote: I meant I'm going to dig in to your many techniques...thanks for putting

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:37 AM, João Pais wrote: Hi, this sounds great. I might have a chance to try it next week (back to dsl), if I have a break. But some questions in advance: - is there a release program? are the testers to make sure the implementations are working well, or do you

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: - is there a release program? are the testers to make sure the implementations are working well, or do you still take requests? Not only requests but also active contributions are very much welcome. Ideally, patches provided would be

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 23, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: - is there a release program? are the testers to make sure the implementations are working well, or do you still take requests? Not only requests but also active contributions

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick Pagano
removing pdp/pidip is a bad idea On 11/23/2010 11:58 AM, John Harrison wrote: Yves: It's your code so you get to choose. From my standpoint as an educator, removal of PiDiP from pd-extended is very unfortunate. I hope at some point you reconsider your position. -John On Tue, Nov 23, 2010

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
PDP has a regular GPL license, so its staying in. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Patrick Pagano wrote: removing pdp/pidip is a bad idea On 11/23/2010 11:58 AM, John Harrison wrote: Yves: It's your code so you get to choose. From my standpoint as an educator, removal of PiDiP from

[PD] Deep thinking ... Problem with ADSR

2010-11-23 Thread Pierre Massat
Dear List, I was trying to build a simple (very simple) metronome using [metro] to see if i could change the speed without having to reset the metro object (has this changed in 0.42 by the way?). In order to test it i need an equally simple ADSR upon an oscillator to hear the bangs. Now please

Re: [PD] Strange behavior between [phasor~] and [creb/blosc~]

2010-11-23 Thread Ingo
Yes, Derek, that formula makes absolutely sense. The funny thing is that the level with the - 0.5 was identical with [creb/blosc~]. It should have been half the level. Strange! Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Derek Holzer [mailto:de...@umatic.nl] Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November

Re: [PD] Deep thinking ... Problem with ADSR

2010-11-23 Thread Lawrence Joseph
Have a look at the metronome here (2nd from the bottom of the page), which allows changing speeds: http://lawrencejoseph.org/1pdpatches.html I am sure it can be improved, but the basic idea is there, Lawrence - Original Message - From: Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com To: pd-list

Re: [PD] Deep thinking ... Problem with ADSR

2010-11-23 Thread martin.peach
You need to put a bang before the delay, otherwise the [1 10( message sets the delay to 1ms. Martin Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:37:35 +0100 From: pimas...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Deep thinking ... Problem with ADSR Dear List, I was

Re: [PD] Deep thinking ... Problem with ADSR

2010-11-23 Thread Pierre Massat
Oh, I didn't know that. Still, putting a bang between [1 10( and the delay doesn't make any difference. I'd tried that, and was very confused. 2010/11/23 martin.pe...@sympatico.ca You need to put a bang before the delay, otherwise the [1 10( message sets the delay to 1ms. Martin

Re: [PD] Deep thinking ... Problem with ADSR

2010-11-23 Thread martin.peach
Maybe you need to re-instantiate the delay; it works fine here (Pd version 0.42.5-extended-rc6 on WinXp), all your examples work. Martin Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:59:51 +0100 From: pimas...@gmail.com To: martin.pe...@sympatico.ca CC: pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Deep thinking ... Problem with ADSR

2010-11-23 Thread Pierre Massat
You're right, it works fine know. I'm feeling much better know! Thanks! Pierre 2010/11/23 martin.pe...@sympatico.ca Maybe you need to re-instantiate the delay; it works fine here (Pd version 0.42.5-extended-rc6 on WinXp), all your examples work. Martin

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Patrick Pagano wrote: removing pdp/pidip is a bad idea it's also a bad idea to cause the simple things that cause people to want to remove pidip. if the military decides to use pidip for military use, chances it will be classified information, and no-one of us will

Re: [PD] pd conferences

2010-11-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, richard duckworth wrote: Hi all, are there any pd conferences or mini-conferences planned for next year? I'm trying to organise a mini-conference for the thirtyeighth time now (or almost)... they last about 4 hours each. I started in decembre 2003. Thanks to everybody

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Perhaps you'd be interested in my unreleased tkwidgets library, its in SVN. Basically, I am working on creating a framework to make it much easier to make GUI objects. Part of that framework includes things like resizing things with the mouse. I have that much working but its

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at, 'João Pais' jmmmp...@googlemail.com

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
thank you officer you'll stay in too, you made your good job of tracking deviants, a song for you : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nULKw8s061E ciao, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: PDP has a regular GPL license, so its staying in. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:27 PM, Patrick Pagano wrote:

Re: [PD] Pd + HTML on Android

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Lorenzo, On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:03:34AM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: What also interests me about your project (if I understood correctly how it works, because I have no android myself and couldn't play with it) is that the 'dsp' and 'interface' (i.e. html+js) remain somewhat

[PD] Java Pd file parser

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi, Before I go ahead and write it myself, does anyone have code for parsing Pd files into sensible Java data structures? Seems like I am always writing this same bit of code in different languages - Python, Javascript, and now Java. Cheers, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx

Re: [PD] Java Pd file parser

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Perhaps it would be a good idea to make the Pd C code into a C lib, then make bindings for other languages? .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 11:30 PM, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi, Before I go ahead and write it myself, does anyone have code for parsing Pd files into sensible Java data structures?

Re: [PD] Java Pd file parser

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Hans, I understand and basically agree, but practically speaking the Python one is done already and works very nicely http://mccormick.cx/projects/PyPd/PdParser.html the Javascript one is web based so it doesn't make sense there (cross browser plugins, gah) and is done anyway too (WebPd).

Re: [PD] Java Pd file parser

2010-11-23 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Have you seen iemguts? Its a Pd library for inspecting state of patches. I suppose it could be turned into a C library also, then wrapped for Java, Python, etc. ;) .hc On Nov 24, 2010, at 12:02 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi Hans, I understand and basically agree, but practically

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Notice that both [cyclone/Scope~] and [flatspace/entry] have a bug: a sudden increase in height/width by about 5-10 pixels when you initially drag to resize. This makes it difficult if not impossible to make minor size changes (especially since there is no Properties dialogue). Good to

Re: [PD] Simple Subtractive Synth filter envelope

2010-11-23 Thread Ingo
Hi Samuel, as an alternative to [phasor~] you could try either [creb/blosc~ saw] or the one Roman Haefeli just suggested: If you're after a cheap band-limited saw generator, check this out: https://github.com/reduzent/pd-bloscabs It's pure vanilla and cpu-wise not much more expensive than

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McCormick
i want to like this reply, but i can't find the facebook 'like' button On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 05:46:22PM +0100, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!! yeh! sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extended based on

Re: [PD] Java Pd file parser

2010-11-23 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:27:46AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Have you seen iemguts? Its a Pd library for inspecting state of patches. I suppose it could be turned into a C library also, then wrapped for Java, Python, etc. ;) That sounds pretty awesome but you are forgetting my