Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Would it be feasible to have a log of all pd-ext libraries and their objects, each time a new stable version is released? Such a list would probably be overwhelming, but at least a good place where to start. M Having a static table of objects that informs the user what's included in the

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Marco Donnarumma
Hans, you're right I'll add some projects myself, to start with. I'm still keen to work on the css, but last time I got no answer about access privileges to the plone platform. I'll get this on the web list and try again, IOhannes, shall we try something about it? cheers, Marco On Sat, Feb

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Someone could easily script that, especially now that Jonathan has been adding the metadata to so many help patches, and almost all the libraries are in libdir format, which means every object has its own help patch. Then they could post that to a page on puredata.info, flossmanuals.net or on

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I replied on the pdweb list. If anyone is interested in the working on the website, that's the place for the discussion on that topic. .hc On Feb 11, 2012, at 5:45 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Hans, you're right I'll add some projects myself, to start with. I'm still keen to work on the

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread João Pais
jonathan has already wrote a script for that (I think), maybe it's better to ask him directly. besides that, the most complete list is my excel file, which was made by manual copy-paste, and therefore will never be up to date. How about making a script from Jonathan's script that generates a

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread João Pais
That table came from a static solution itself - I copy-pasted every one of those entries (and many more which didn't get in) - into an excel file first, which I use for myself. Pasting the most relevant parts of that file to a wiki format was my main contribute to the floss manual. But it's

Re: [PD] ubuntu linx: a couple of pd+jack errors

2012-02-11 Thread João Pais
error: JACK error: cannot lock down memory for RT thread (Cannot allocate memory) this error seems to indicate that you are lacking real time priviliges (what's the content of your /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf?) I can reply later, I can't access the computer where this happened. This

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-10 à 20:09:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : For me the create-delete method uses more CPU but both are pretty intensive. Any Qt devs out there?  Or gtk'ers?  Maybe a JUCEr?  Would those toolkits be able to utilize the GPU?  Those would be nice to compare, too. In the end, switching

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at; Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu; pd-list@iem.at List pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [PD] GUI and

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com To: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com; Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at; Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-08 à 04:50:00, Max a écrit : FUNDING: Getting the necessary funding was certainly the issue I personally spent the most time on. We had an overall budget of around 17.000 EUR. [...] That budget is less than a third of what the convention in Montréal had available. It's easy to

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-11 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
JUCE is amazing in terms of gui speed-up. Just check out bundled demos that come with the sdk... Half of Gem could be easily reimplemented using JUCE sdk... Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 11, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-10 à 20:09:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : For me the create-delete method uses more CPU but both are pretty intensive. Any Qt devs out there? Or gtk'ers? Maybe a JUCEr? Would those toolkits be able to utilize the GPU?

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 11, 2012, at 1:01 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Le 2012-02-08 à 04:50:00, Max a écrit : FUNDING: Getting the necessary funding was certainly the issue I personally spent the most time on. We had an overall budget of around 17.000 EUR. [...] That budget is less than a third of what

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Max
El 11.02.2012, a las 19:01, Mathieu Bouchard escribió: Le 2012-02-08 à 04:50:00, Max a écrit : FUNDING: Getting the necessary funding was certainly the issue I personally spent the most time on. We had an overall budget of around 17.000 EUR. [...] That budget is less than a third of what

[PD] FLOSS Manuals

2012-02-11 Thread Max
El 11.02.2012, a las 05:57, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: The FLOSS manuals book is editable by anyone. Please fix it if it has wrong info. :) I've tried to fix obviously wrong stuff, like for instance the senctence: “The numbers sent from our counter will increase endlessly.” on the

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Marco Donnarumma
that sounds quite promising, thanks Jonathan... +1 M On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com To: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com; Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc:

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-11 à 21:25:00, Max a écrit : we looked into the private accommodation option as well but decided against it because the convention took place during the summer break and parallel to the bauhaus-summer school. the summer school did pay for people subletting and thus had already

Re: [PD] FLOSS Manuals

2012-02-11 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Feb 11, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Max wrote: El 11.02.2012, a las 05:57, Hans-Christoph Steiner escribió: The FLOSS manuals book is editable by anyone. Please fix it if it has wrong info. :) I've tried to fix obviously wrong stuff, like for instance the senctence: “The numbers sent from our

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com Cc: PD list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention Le 2012-02-11 à 21:25:00, Max a écrit :

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-11 à 18:06:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : I'd prefer a self-coding system where you just have to write the documentation. Actually, we'd prefer a self-coding self-documenting system in which we would just have to be armchair theoricians writing witty remarks on the mailing-list.

Re: [PD] robotcowboy 2.0

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-06 à 20:31:00, Dan Wilcox a écrit : robotcowboy is dead. Long live robotcowboy! Change is good and it's time for robotcowboy 2.0. I'm rebuilding the system in an OpenFrameworks app using libpd. Think of it as an RjDj on steroids with a visual engine running lua scripts. I put

Re: [PD] Thoughts in conclusion of the 4th Pure Data Convention

2012-02-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Caution: probably want to run this one with -noloadbang. :) -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com; PD list pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 9:51 PM Subject:

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-01-15 à 18:15:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit : http://youtu.be/V47C7AlTEUw Enjoy, feedback welcome. Sounds pretty much like it's the best stuff ever made with Pd. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801

Re: [PD] number to fractions external?

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2011-12-18 à 12:51:00, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : I will take care of that after february, when I finish up my thesis. Can I count on you to help me revise it? Sorry, I meant to say : « Yes ». __ | Mathieu

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-11 Thread Patrice Colet
De: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca À: Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Dimanche 12 Février 2012 05:47:22 Objet: Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind Le 2012-01-15 à 18:15:00, Billy Stiltner a écrit : http://youtu.be/V47C7AlTEUw

Re: [PD] GUI and DSP

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-11 à 09:15:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit : Do you still have any of those changes you made to Tk?  If so, how do they compare to unpatched Tk when running Hans' array-demo? Well, yes, I have them, but it's not very relevant, as I already know that those changes make Pd really worse

Re: [PD] Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated

2012-02-11 Thread Patrice Colet
Thanks a lot! Ivica, what about using this for backtrace? http://code.google.com/p/backtrace-mingw/ - Mail original - De: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca À: Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.fr Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Vendredi 10 Février 2012 06:28:44 Objet: Re:

Re: [PD] My new PD music - HelmholtzShipHarmonicWind

2012-02-11 Thread Dafydd Hughes
Lovely! On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.frwrote: De: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca À: Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Dimanche 12 Février 2012 05:47:22 Objet: Re: [PD] My new PD music -

[PD] backtrace() for MinGW (and Android)

2012-02-11 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Le 2012-02-12 à 06:06:00, Patrice Colet a écrit : Thanks a lot! Ivica, what about using this for backtrace? http://code.google.com/p/backtrace-mingw/ Does anyone have such a thing for Android ? I found something similar, except it doesn't work inside a signal handler, so, unlike any other

[PD] roughness Pitch-Comonality objects (was Re: number to fractions external?)

2012-02-11 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Mathieu wrote: Sorry, I meant to say : « Yes ». Alex wrote: I will take care of that after february, when I finish up my thesis. Can I count on you to help me revise it? Mathieu wrote: | So, btw, where can people download the psprofile externals? Great Mathieu, I'm finishing the PhD

Re: [PD] roughness Pitch-Comonality objects (was Re: number to fractions external?)

2012-02-11 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
wow, that came out ugly... some of that text shouldn't be there, damn you control c + control v anyway, I'd just like to say that I hope people will enjoy playing around with these objects, specially the pitch-commonality (that you called psprofile). I didn't explore them creatively as much as