Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2014-02-25 at 21:11 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your replies. I get the same error message in the console about JACK, regardless of whether I start it before Pd or not. The sound works though most of the time. This error indicates, that you didn't set the

Re: [PD] mac os9 version

2014-02-26 Thread Jean-Marie Adrien
pd vintage edition the true pure root thing ! :) Le 26 févr. 2014 à 08:40, Simon Iten a écrit : too bad, thanks. On 25 Feb 2014, at 16:19, Peter P. p8...@aol.com wrote: * Simon Iten itensi...@gmail.com [2014-02-25 14:31]: is there or better was there ever a version of pure data for mac

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Billy Stiltner
when i first installed miller's latest vanilla on a new 64 bit installation of 13.04(I actually installed it on a different laptop last summer then put the drive ina new laptop the other day then installed vanilla. it crashed till i upgraded the intel graphics driver. then it crashed till i

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Billy Stiltner
proof that it works https://archive.org/details/newcpusmandelbox only after almost hours did the graphics stop updating, the audio kept going. been a while since i could run for hours. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.comwrote: when i first installed

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Billy Stiltner
re: :P Moreover, processors haven't gotten faster in a while you can say that again! I think it was 2005 I ordered the mayor of Appalachia a 3.2Ghz Intel CPU 17laptop. My current machine is only 2.2 Ghz. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Peter Brinkmann peter.brinkm...@googlemail.com wrote:

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Pierre Massat
Hi Roman, Good point about the permissions, i'll check that. I don't need to know where I installed pd-extended from (I'm too young to suffer from dementia). I said it's there in the Ubuntu repos because this is where I got it (not from puredata.info or anywhere else, and certainly not from a

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-26 09:40, Pierre Massat wrote: I don't need to know where I installed pd-extended from (I'm too young to suffer from dementia). I said it's there in the Ubuntu repos because this is where I got it (not from puredata.info

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 09:40 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote: Hi Roman, Good point about the permissions, i'll check that. I don't need to know where I installed pd-extended from (I'm too young to suffer from dementia). Good for you. I said it's there in the Ubuntu repos because this is

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Pierre Massat
I might have indeed added other sources, so Roman and IOhannes are probably right. Still, knowing that doesn't really solve my problems, does it ? I will try what Katja suggests regarding rt priorities. Hopefully that will fix the errors I get with JACK (problem one of 3). Cheers, Pierre.

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-26 10:27, Pierre Massat wrote: I might have indeed added other sources, so Roman and IOhannes are probably right. Still, knowing that doesn't really solve my problems, does it ? it mgiht help finding out which version of pd-extended

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 10:27 +0100, Pierre Massat wrote: I might have indeed added other sources, so Roman and IOhannes are probably right. Still, knowing that doesn't really solve my problems, does it ? I was suggesting this is related to your problems. You told us where you have your

Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS

2014-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
Sorry, that got sent prematurely. On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 11:33 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: Regarding your other problems: - and Alsa throwing this error in the console : ALSA output error (restart failed): Broken pipe (though the sound does work). I think I see this error from time to

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread patrice colet
Le 26/02/2014 04:41, Peter Brinkmann a écrit : 3. I'm sort of losing track of all the stakeholders and their agendas. Here's a rough list of players and their agendas as I see them: * Pd Vanilla (maintain backward compatibility so that existing works won't bit-rot). * Pd

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 02/26/2014 12:53 PM, patrice colet wrote: * pdvst (plugin for VST hosts) ? that's a *perfect* usecase for libpd fgmrdsa IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] arduino/comport load hang

2014-02-26 Thread Allen, Michael
On Feb 25, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca Well without seeing the patch, I can only guess: Does the loadbang hit the baud rate or the open first? Make sure you don't send anything to the arduino for a few seconds or you will invoke the bootloader by mistake.

Re: [PD] mac os9 version

2014-02-26 Thread Miller Puckette
Hi al - As far as I know there was never any version of Pd for Mac OS9 - the stumbling block (as I recall perhaps imperfectly) was that Tcl/Tk wasn't available for it. cheers Miller On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 09:21:05AM +0100, Jean-Marie Adrien wrote: pd vintage edition the true pure root thing

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 02/25/2014 10:41 PM, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Late to the party, but here are a few thoughts on the topics that have come up: 1. Pd and concurrency: Audio processing must be separate from user interaction. If you want decent latency, you need to do your audio processing on a real-time

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Rafael Vega
So to keep this from becoming yet another copy of a previous thread in the archive, here's the thing: someone has to step up and say, I am going to maintain 'core Pd'. That would mean listening to the needs of the community, reviewing patches, and _delegating_ responsibilities. Yes! I

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
While it would be incredibly pretentious of me to even think about proposing pd-l2ork as an upstream standard, What I can share instead is that I welcome all submissions and as was the case with patches submitted so far we try to merge them quickly provided there are no major showstoppers. Even if

[PD] easing in pd

2014-02-26 Thread David Schaffer
Hi , I was wonderning if anyone of you had tried to implement easing in pd. I'm working on a video animation patch that uses random objects and the result would look much better if I could find a way to smooth the transitions. I already use the line object, but I'm looking for a way to slow

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Dan Wilcox
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Rafael Vega email.r...@gmail.com wrote: It's been fascinating for me to see what has happened with OpenFrameworks and their Do it with others philosophy. It would be great if the Pd community would migrate into something similar. What's interesting to me is

Re: [PD] easing in pd

2014-02-26 Thread Alexandros Drymonitis
The mapping library is very likely to have stuff that would be helpful to you, I guess.. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:42 PM, David Schaffer schafferda...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi , I was wonderning if anyone of you had tried to implement easing in pd. I'm working on a video animation patch that

Re: [PD] easing in pd

2014-02-26 Thread Cyrille Henry
you can have a try with line3 from the nusmuk-utils lib. it's a line object using a 3rd order interpolation aiming to smooth transition... it really look at what you describe. cheers c Le 26/02/2014 21:42, David Schaffer a écrit : Hi , I was wonderning if anyone of you had tried to

Re: [PD] easing in pd

2014-02-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I refactored a bunch of the easing styles from Raphael.js to use with data structures (attached).  Look in [pd movers] and then [pd animate]. The patch itself only works in Pd-l2ork, but you can break out all of the animation logic.  You'll just need to replace any instance of [pi(--[pdinfo],

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Ivica Bukvic
The reason why I believe combining all of these will not be feasible is because in one of my recent conversations with Miller (and Miller please correct me if I somehow misremember here) he expressed his belief any project that exceeds N lines of code which I believe in this case it was something

Re: [PD] easing in pd

2014-02-26 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mit, 2014-02-26 at 20:42 +, David Schaffer wrote: Hi , I was wonderning if anyone of you had tried to implement easing in pd. I'm working on a video animation patch that uses random objects and the result would look much better if I could find a way to smooth the transitions. I

[PD] Strange behavior using custom external

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Esler
Hello everyone, I'm having a strange issue with a custom external built using C++. When using my external in Pd I send it set commands using a message box to change internal parameters, e.g [set tempo $1( The strange behavior is as follows: 1) Sometimes when opening the patch the word

Re: [PD] Strange behavior using custom external

2014-02-26 Thread Charles Z Henry
Hi Robert, Just to clarify--have you also observed the error in any patches where you have not loaded the external? For example, if you take your patch, remove the external and save as test.pd, will the word tempo appear correctly and without replacement? This sounds to me like a mismatched

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Miller Puckette
HI all - My figure was 100K lines, not 10K. PD's C code is at about 70K now, and the Tcl/TK code is 7K - so I am only adding expansions very carefully now. Another related idea with an absurdly arbitrary round number attached: the code is built to last 50 years. It's now about 17 ywars in

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Rich E
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote: HI all - My figure was 100K lines, not 10K. PD's C code is at about 70K now, and the Tcl/TK code is 7K - so I am only adding expansions very carefully now. Another related idea with an absurdly arbitrary round number

Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core

2014-02-26 Thread Rich E
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: The reason why I believe combining all of these will not be feasible is because in one of my recent conversations with Miller (and Miller please correct me if I somehow misremember here) he expressed his belief any project that