[PD] Selectable Dimensions for Data Structures?

2008-10-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Is there a way to enlarge the selectable dimensions of graphical objects like [drawpolygon] and [filledpolygon], similar to the way the size option works in the properties for canvas? I like the way elements of an array move when plotted, but it's always difficult to click that first graphical

[PD] cnv height/width in pixels

2008-11-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I'm building a gui scroll menu in pd-vanilla with some cnv's. Looking at the cnv properties window, I see that next to visible_rectangle height/width it says it's measured in pixels. But a default cnv with height = 60 creates a cnv that in fact is 61 pixels high. (same problem for width, too)

[PD] Multi-slider attempt

2008-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
After checking out Frank Barknecht's ds slider example, I'm trying to build a ds bar-graph that behaves like the max multi-slider, where you can click-drag to change multiple values in one mouse-swoop. In the attached patch, you can click on the red handle and drag across the bars to

Re: [PD] Multi-slider attempt

2008-12-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I haven't put it to practical use yet. But if I weren't using arrays, I would just have a scalable rectangle, for example, and get the y-value from the outlet of the corresponding struct. When stretching the rectangle, it gives a change message plus a pointer to the object, so there's no need

Re: [PD] Multi-slider attempt

2008-12-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
would be generally useful. -Jonathan --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PD] Multi-slider attempt To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org, hard off hard@gmail.com Cc: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday

Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse

2009-01-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Haven't all of the patching desires currently under discussion been implemented in desiredata? I'm looking at: http://code.goto10.org/projects/desiredata/wiki/UserDocs The only thing I don't see is the ability to have msg boxes as part of automatic object chaining. I'd be interested to hear

Re: [PD] Outlet on 'struct' object

2009-01-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
The selectors I'm aware of (and the mouse behaviors that trigger them): click (vanilla 0.42): click the object in non-editmode change: stretch or move an object in non-editmode select: click an object or drag-click/highlight several objects in editmode (or select-all) deselect: click away from

Re: [PD] Outlet on 'struct' object

2009-01-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I made a clone of max's gswitch using the click selector a while back. With 0.42, you can click the gop window to switch inputs. --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Outlet on 'struct' object To: pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Outlet on 'struct' object

2009-01-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Sure! I didn't know about the ds-gui section, I'll check it out when I get a chance. --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Luke Iannini lukex...@gmail.com wrote: From: Luke Iannini lukex...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Outlet on 'struct' object To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Yet more DS GUI excursions

2009-01-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Here's an example where some ds stuff is drawn outside the bounding box by hiding it before the gop dimensions are set. Move the red box to make the y-value and mouse-action appear. For the y-value on the right, there's obviously a bug because if you quickly minimize and maximize the patch

Re: [PD] Question on [struct]'s

2009-01-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Symbols can be used with the -symbol flag like: [set -symbol struct_name var] They can't be used in [append]. Also note that if you click and drag a symbol, it outputs the message drawnumber_motion: symbol to the console for every pixel you move the mouse. -Jonathan --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Mike

Re: [PD] Outlet on 'struct' object

2009-01-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
finally be done! Mind if I add it to a ds-gui section in SVN? Thanks for sending it along Luke On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: I made a clone of max's gswitch using the click selector a while back. With 0.42, you can click the gop window

[PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Is it possible to get a pointer to arrays created by the put menu or [table] object? -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Miller On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:01:54PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: tabread, tabplay~, etc. gives you something that acts like a pointer. .hc On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Is it possible to get a pointer to arrays created by the put

Re: [PD] Pointer to array

2009-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Miller On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 10:01:54PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: tabread, tabplay~, etc. gives you something that acts like a pointer. .hc On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Is it possible to get a pointer to arrays created by the put

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 46, Issue 108

2009-01-31 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Maybe there could be a menu item that toggles between a) making pasted objects dangle from the mouse (similar to what happens when hitting ctrl-1), or b) shifting 10x10 for the same window and leaving everything as is for different windows. (Hopefully I didn't double post this...) -Jonathan

[PD] ds animation trick

2009-02-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I recently discovered a use for how data structures in gops bleed through to the parent. test.pd demonstrates a gui object that jumps out of its gop box when clicked. This technique is limited, though, because you can't manipulate the grob with the mouse once it goes outside the gop box; so a

[PD] div vs. / i

2009-02-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
This is puzzling me. I've been using [div] as the equivalent to [/] | [int] But I just noticed while scrolling in a number box that they aren't the same when the dividend is negative. In the source for [div], I see this before doing the division: if (n1 0) n1 -= (n2-1); I feel like I'm

Re: [PD] div vs. / i

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] div vs. / i To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 4:12 PM On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: But I just noticed while scrolling in a number box that they aren't the same when

Re: [PD] Consistency Problem - OS X[intel] - when modifying Abstractions

2009-02-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I'm not sure if this is related since I'm running winxp, but I was getting about seventeen of the following errors when closing test.pd on pd-vanilla 0.42-4: error: .xa22a90: no such object if I would: 1) open test.pd 2) right-click and open one of the instances of the ds-tgl 3) click the ds in

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I think it would make sense (both pedagogically and practically) if $0 in message boxes actually _did_ something. Incrementing per message box would be one option, but expanding to a user-defined symbol or float could be very useful: [loadbang] | [f $0] | [; set $0( That way, message box $0

Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions

2009-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Oops, I screwed up that ascii art patch. It should be more like this: [loadbang] | [f $0] | [; set dollarzero $1( -Jonathan --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] here I go again..dynamic abstractions To: PD-List

Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) move object

2009-02-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 2/17/09, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) move object To: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org, pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 12:34 AM Maybe check out this:

Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) move object

2009-02-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Thanks for the info on your patches, I'll check them out when I get a chance. In one of your tutorials, you asked about the sort message. Have a look at 07.sequencer.pd. If you open the synthesis subpatch, you'll see that pd-data is sent a sort message before sequencing. This sorts the data

Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) move object

2009-02-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 2/18/09, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [PD] data-struct: (x:y) move object To: jancs...@yahoo.com, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org, pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 2:03 AM In one of your

Re: [PD] Best way to deal with many tables.

2009-02-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 2/21/09, B. Bogart b...@ekran.org wrote: From: B. Bogart b...@ekran.org Subject: [PD] Best way to deal with many tables. To: PD list pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 5:59 AM Hey all. I've managed to get my patches to use less objects, and more messages.

Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 Windows build

2009-02-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I get a 403 Forbidden error when I click the link. -Jonathan --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Subject: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 Windows build To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:41

[PD] bug report about pow~ creation argument

2009-02-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, Is there a way to edit the entry on the bug tracker about [pow~] to include [log~] and [exp~]? It's the same problem about the creation arguments not being recognized. Thanks, Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: [PD] list issue

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] list issue To: YOhannes this_is_...@web.de Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 5:39 PM On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, YOhannes wrote: i like to apply more

Re: [PD] list issue [Off-topic]

2009-03-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] list issue To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: YOhannes this_is_...@web.de, pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 1:29 AM On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Jonathan

Re: [PD] visible bang without output

2009-03-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Or you can just make your own bng, and add whatever features you want. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr wrote: From: Nicolas Montgermont nicolas_montgerm...@yahoo.fr Subject: Re: [PD] visible bang without output To: Hans-Christoph Steiner

Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com

2009-03-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
This looks very nice! I especially like the illustrations like the dac-speaker in 3.1.1.1.1. What version of pd is this? I don't recognize some of the object names in the list-of-all-objects jpg in chapter 2, like active and allow. -Jonathan --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Johannes Kreidler

Re: [PD] dynamic creation arguments for route

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I built a settable route abstraction using dynamic patching. It requires [initbang], which is missing in pd-vanilla, so you'll need pd-ext if you want to use it. Let me know how it works if you try it. -Jonathan --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com wrote: From: Ingo

Re: [PD] dynamic creation arguments for route

2009-03-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
]. No dynamic patching or externals necessary. Ciao -- Frank Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I built a settable route abstraction using dynamic patching. It requires [initbang], which is missing in pd-vanilla, so you'll need pd-ext if you want to use it. Let me

Re: [PD] GSoC Fwd: Thank you for your application

2009-03-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Well, hindsight is 20/20, but I do have some ideas about improving upon the application itself (esp. regarding past successes/failures at GSoC). I'll be happy to contribute time for editing/touch-ups/clarifications for the next go-around. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 3/19/09, danomatika

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: dmotd dm...@gmx.net Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 5:25 PM I am not proposing to limit the use of

Re: [PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I don't think it's possible to delete a ds object unless selecting it with the mouse (or maybe with the mouse msg). Notice that if you turn off drawing instructions by using an inlet to [filledcurve], for example, all other visible data structures will flash off and on again. I think that's

[PD] Patch-off (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( )

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ok, I'd like to propose a patch-off. What's the cleanest, clearest way to present adsr.pd from the audio tutorials? I choose this patch because there are lots of crossed wires, plus one has to leave space for the explanatory comments of the patch. Here are two versions I could think of.

Re: [PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/21/09, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [PD] data-structures short questions To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, PD-List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:37 AM sorry, forgot to ask: and there's

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
, at 5:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: dmotd dm...@gmx.net Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, March 20

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I agree. I also like the use of list in that patch to store parameters. So if you wanted to set parameters with creation arguments, would it just be a matter of using $1...$5 in the [list]s and (un)[pack]? -Jonathan --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kyle

[PD] Horizontal Connections (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( )

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Martin, Here's my proposal: horizontal connections should only be used when the upper object has only one outlet, and the lower object has only one inlet. Otherwise there will be always be ambiguity. With your example of all outlets pointing to the same inlet, there is still ambiguity as

[PD] Horizontal Connections (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( )

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Martin, Here's my proposal: horizontal connections should only be used when the upper object has only one outlet, and the lower object has only one inlet. Otherwise there will be always be ambiguity. With your example of all outlets pointing to the same inlet, there is still ambiguity as

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off] To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 2:37 AM Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I agree

Re: [PD] Horizontal Connections (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send

2009-03-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Matt, I like the usage agreement idea, as long as there's visual feedback. For example, if the inlets and outlets in pd-ext protruded one or two pixels, you'd be able to see the connection crossing over to the wrong outlet. -Jonathan --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com

Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]

2009-03-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
as [list append $1 $2 etc.] in this case. -Jonathan --- On Sun, 3/22/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off] To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 12:27 PM Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Why not use Miller's output~ as the default in pd-ext? I like the fact that the tutorials have both an abstraction and a subpatch for output, and it might be nice to have another gop that uses a slider as in your proposed abstraction. I think it would additionally be nice to have something

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at, Pd List pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 6:10 PM The current [output~] is not easy to use, lots of people have trouble with it. Scrolling in a number box is not a standard GUI interaction, and not particularly

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 5:38 AM Intuition improves itself by learning. This is my most beloved

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Steffen Juul st...@dibidut.dk wrote: From: Steffen Juul st...@dibidut.dk Subject: Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended To: Pd List pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 7:48 AM On 24/03/2009, at 18.10, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Scrolling in a

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Cc: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, March 25,

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com, pd

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 3/26/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com, pd

Re: [PD] DIY GSoC: getting those projects done

2009-03-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] DIY GSoC: getting those projects done To: Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx Cc: Pd List pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:01 PM On Mon, 23 Mar

[PD] iemguts on windows

2009-04-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, Has anyone been able install iemguts objects on windows xp? I tried using the guide for compiling externals with mingw that was posted here some time ago, but after putting the dll files in the extra folder, I get an error like couldn't load propertybang and the object isn't created.

Re: [PD] iemguts on windows

2009-04-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
it compiles every file in the directory (not nice but works ok). hope it helps. g. Jonathan Wilkes schrieb: Hi, Has anyone been able install iemguts objects on windows xp? I tried using the guide for compiling externals with mingw that was posted here some time ago, but after

Re: [PD] my pd shirt design submission.

2009-04-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Here's an idea, inspired by the most aptly named pd object... :) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Jason Plumb ja...@noisybox.net wrote: From: Jason Plumb ja...@noisybox.net Subject: [PD] my pd shirt design submission. To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Cc: bbakersm...@gmail.com Date: Friday, April 3,

Re: [PD] iemguts on windows

2009-04-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Yes, I have msys installed. Would it make a difference where pd is installed? -Jonathan --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Georg Werner ge...@fricklr.de wrote: From: Georg Werner ge...@fricklr.de Subject: Re: [PD] iemguts on windows To: PD-List pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 2:21 PM have

Re: [PD] Writing -dB or VU level to a TXT File

2009-04-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Adam, I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to do with that patch, but if you're having trouble with file names in windows, use the following chain of objects: [bang( | [savepanel] | [write $1( | [textfile] In this case, bang and write $1 are messages (created with ctrl-2), and

Re: [PD] Writing -dB or VU level to a TXT File

2009-04-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
. Benalt Production Technology Director 212-664-1142 desk 646-306-4751 blackberry MSNBC -Original Message- From: Jonathan Wilkes [mailto:jancs...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 7:59 PM To: Benalt, Adam D (NBC Universal, MSNBC); Pall Thayer Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD

Re: [PD] , , , || etc

2009-04-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: From: Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [PD] , , , || etc To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: pd list pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 5:50 AM Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sun, 5 Apr

Re: [PD] a story for Lists

2009-04-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20 foo instead of list 20 foo? -Jonathan --- On Mon, 4/6/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] a story for Lists To: pd list pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 10:54 AM

Re: [PD] a story for Lists

2009-04-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 4/6/09, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] a story for Lists To: pd list pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 11:41 AM Jonathan Wilkes wrote: So is it a bug that [20 foo(--[print] posts 20 foo

Re: [PD] a story for Lists

2009-04-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] a story for Lists To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 8:54 AM Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: It wouldn't confuse anyone

Re: [PD] a story for Lists

2009-04-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 4/7/09, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] a story for Lists To: jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 12:08 PM Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Oops, there was supposed

[PD] Creation Argument Weirdness

2009-04-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, I think I may have found a bug. After changing the abstraction argument, nothing comes out of the outlet to the parent patch. I'm on windows; can someone confirm before I post it on the bug tracker? Thanks, Jonathan patch.pd Description: application/puredata abstraction.pd

Re: [PD] Creation Argument Weirdness

2009-04-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
but disable (non-[pipe]ed) outlets. -Jonathan --- On Fri, 4/10/09, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Creation Argument Weirdness To: pd-list@iem.at, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 4:34 AM Hi, I

Re: [PD] Pd FLOSS Manual Update pt 1

2009-04-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 4/11/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] Pd FLOSS Manual Update pt 1 To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 8:49 PM Hallo, Derek Holzer hat gesagt: // Derek Holzer wrote: as I've mentioned

Re: [PD] Pd FLOSS Manual Update pt 1

2009-04-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 4/12/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] Pd FLOSS Manual Update pt 1 To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 8:29 AM Hallo, Jonathan Wilkes hat gesagt: // Jonathan Wilkes wrote: I agree that meta

Re: [PD] symbolarray

2009-04-18 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Frank, Does [drawpolygon] affect creation time with that many elements? -Jonathan --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote: From: Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] symbolarray To: PDlist pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 3:52 PM

Re: [PD] asigning colors to gui objects

2009-04-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi S., [universal] in the cyclone library should do what you want. --- On Sun, 4/26/09, Sebastian Saa sebastian_nico...@yahoo.es wrote: From: Sebastian Saa sebastian_nico...@yahoo.es Subject: [PD] asigning colors to gui objects To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, April 26, 2009, 4:50 AM

[PD] list of creation arguments

2009-04-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi list, Here's a pd-vanilla subpatch that outputs an abstraction's creation arguments as a list. Just copy and paste pd arguments to your abstraction and it should work. It will output a single bang only if no creation arguments are supplied, so you can check whether they exist or

[PD] question about propertybang

2009-04-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
When using [propertybang] from iemguts in an abstraction, I notice that properties for other abstractions (and subpatches) become disabled, even if I close the patch with the [propertybang] in it. Only quitting and restarting pd resolves it. I'm on windows xp. Does this behavior happen on

Re: [PD] signal / message

2009-05-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] signal / message To: Wolfgang Jäger wolfgang.jae...@gmx.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 5:54 PM On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 17:29 +0200, Wolfgang Jäger

Re: [PD] signal / message

2009-05-10 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote: From: Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk Subject: Re: [PD] signal / message To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: wolfgang.jae...@gmx.at, reduzie...@yahoo.de, pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:57 PM

[PD] Abstraction load time

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I've been doing a lot of dynamic patching and notice that using abstractions slows down the process immensely. Why is it that test-abs.pd is so much slower than test-sp.pd (which just creates chains of internal objects in a subpatch)? Is there any way this could be sped up in

Re: [PD] Abstraction load time

2009-05-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org wrote: From: Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org Subject: Re: [PD] Abstraction load time To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 12:39 PM Hi, Jonathan

Re: [PD] Abstraction load time

2009-05-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] Abstraction load time To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 9:39 PM it behaves like the opposite on my machine

Re: [PD] Abstraction load time

2009-05-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 5/12/09, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Subject: Re: [PD] Abstraction load time To: jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 11:53 PM On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 14:31 -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote

Re: [PD] [expr] for if, then, else?

2009-05-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, padovani josepadov...@yahoo.com.br wrote: From: padovani josepadov...@yahoo.com.br Subject: Re: [PD] [expr] for if, then, else? To: Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, May 15, 2009, 2:15 PM You don't need to declare the variables... it is just: [expr if ($f3 0,

[PD] Tidy question

2009-05-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi list, Has anyone ever tried increasing the values for XTOLERANCE and YTOLERANCE in g_editor.c to improve the usefulness of Tidy Up? Like maybe jacking both values up to 14, for example? Currently, objects have to be within 4 vertical or 3 horizontal pixels of each other for tidy up to

Re: [PD] Tidy question

2009-05-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 5/28/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 4:06 PM Sounds worth trying, I haven't myself.  We've

Re: [PD] Tidy question

2009-05-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 5/29/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 4:37 PM On May 29, 2009, at 4:17 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote

Re: [PD] ds-gui errors - bad window path name

2009-05-30 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I just made a nbx matrix* and I'm curious if could be better make this with data structures (by now i will prefere this approach because most of people I distribute my patches uses pd-extended0.41, but I will start some tests)... When there's a lot of ds-gui's in motion, they don't react as

Re: [PD] Tidy question

2009-06-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
... Would be nice to have a keyboard shortcut for this in the future (CTRL+Y?) -Jonathan --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Tidy question To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday

Re: [PD] Revising Help Files

2009-06-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
? 5. Is there a limit to the number of arguments an abstraction may have? Thanks, Jonathan On Wed, 6/10/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: Revising Help Files To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: a. tonal ladat

Re: [PD] Revising Help Files

2009-06-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 6/12/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: Revising Help Files To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 7:45 PM On Jun 12, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote

Re: [PD] Techniques for atomic/controlled variable updates

2009-06-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 6/16/09, Fred Smith fxsm...@gmail.com wrote: From: Fred Smith fxsm...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Techniques for atomic/controlled variable updates To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 1:21 AM Hello all - I'm currently building a simple video project using PD and

Re: [PD] Revising Help Files

2009-06-17 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ok, a couple of questions before I get deeper into the revisions: 1. Should help patches be tailored for font sizes other than 10? It might be feasible to do this for size 12 fonts, but it will make patches look worse at size 10. For example, to accommodate 12pt fonts, paragraphs and

Re: [PD] Revising Help Files

2009-06-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ok, a few more questions concerning help patches: 1. What is a PD-meta GENRE? Is there a list of them somewhere to choose from? 2. For PD-meta DATATYPE, take gatom-help.pd as an example: should this list acceptable DATATYPEs like bang float list symbol, or just the datatypes that are most

Re: [PD] workshop in Boston August 1st

2009-07-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
After reading the page, I would assume the instructor is requiring the students who need the extra hour for installation to use the oses for which he has expertise (notice that both Linux and also Vista may not be used). It's not totally clear, but I can't imagine he's forbidding students to

Re: [PD] Pd Tutorial redesigned

2009-07-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
b/ i think tutorials are basically producing people making the same kind of music and/or visuals, every library has its own help, why would you need to be guided from A to Z? result would be just another clone, like people learning to play guitar playing beatle's songs... not what i'm

[PD] question about get/set/setsize

2009-07-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, I'm revising the helpfiles, and I noticed some weird behavior while looking at pointer-help.pd: 1. Hook up a [get template1 y] to the first pointer example. 2. Traverse and click next to the end of the list. 3. Get happily outputs the y field for template2 without error. Which makes

Re: [PD] video interviews from Montreal online

2009-07-19 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I started to download one of these but saw that it's ca. 500mb for a few minutes of video. I don't do a lot with video, but I'm sure someone on this list can tell you an easy way to compress a batch of video files. -Jonathan --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Greg Pond gregp...@gmail.com wrote: From:

[PD] tabsend~ help patch

2009-07-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I'm currently editing the help patch tabsend~-help.pd, which is attached. It didn't have an example patch, so I went ahead and made one. Problem is, I've never used tabsend~, so I'm not sure how useful that example is. If someone has a better example to include in this patch, please send it

Re: [PD] tabsend~ help patch

2009-07-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
The inlet is the audio signal that will be write on the array, check your description! Thanks. I think that came from using [noise~] as a template, and mindlessly changing noise~ to tabsend~ on the first pass. Anyway it was helpful, I didn't know samplerate~... Thanks, I'll take a

Re: [PD] changeable receive

2009-07-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Hans Roels hans.ro...@versateladsl.be wrote: From: Hans Roels hans.ro...@versateladsl.be Subject: [PD] changeable receive To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 5:00 PM hello, From what I read and tried, it is impossible to change the argument of

[PD] Help Docs: element vs. item

2009-08-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
[list one two three( How should the help patches refer to one above: as the first element or the first item in the list? Currently the reference docs use both, and I'd like to pick one and stick to it. -Jonathan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing

Re: [PD] tabwriteat~ object

2009-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 8/3/09, Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu wrote: From: Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [PD] tabwriteat~ object To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, August 3, 2009, 9:30 PM Yep, it's a damn pity I used the tabwrite~ name for the wrong object!  We're

Re: [PD] Help Docs: element vs. item

2009-08-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 8/9/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Help Docs: element vs. item To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: puredata mailing list pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 9:37 PM That's a good

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