Re: [PD] [pd] tables as patch storage
I haven't been on this list for a long time. The first thing I see is the same old crank acting like a crabby sour puss. Par for the course. I think that kind of negativity spoils a lot of productivity. Maybe you could work on social skills and how to not come off as a jerk so much? Peace and Love, ~Kyle On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Le 2012-03-27 à 17:37:00, Frank Barknecht a écrit : On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:04:37AM -0700, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca (Of course, there are externals, but they're not the kind of thing used by the kind of people who come up with list-abs.) I don't know what that means. What does that mean? Matju is teasing me as maintainer of list-abs as a vanilla-based library, deliberatly jumping to the wrong conclusion I would despise externals. But I ignored the remark. Or actually now I didn't. Well, by calling it « teasing » you're avoiding the point of my remark, which is essentially ignoring it. I think that you're deliberately jumping to the wrong conclusions about my mail, too. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] XmiX
Very neat and tidy! It would be nice to integrate a good selection of sequencers into this. Perhaps some of the ones from netpd could be converted for this purpose? ~Kyle On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Gabbroral Complex mag-...@autistici.orgwrote: hi, new revision, checked on OSX and Windows: http://puredata.info/Members/gabbro http://mag-one.noblogs.org/xmix bye, mag-one -- http://mag-one.noblogs.org On 01/24/2011 03:13 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Worked like a charm, now I can just open the -gui.pd patch and it just worked! I like the sliders, the whole look is quite cool. .hc On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 01:32 +0100, Gabbroral Complex wrote: hi, I put the paths declarations out of the shell script and added them in patches with [declare]. Now everything works even when opened via Pd without using the script. check the new rev.176 if you pleased: http://puredata.info/Members/gabbro/XmiX-rev176.tar.bz2/at_download/file Thanks a lot, :) Mag-ONE On 01/23/2011 08:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Looks interesting, but I didn't get it running. I recommend using [declare] to set the paths rather than a shell script, that way it'll work on all platforms, and it will work when someone just opens the patch via Pd rather than running a shell script. You could have something like [declare -path ../x_ABS] .hc On Jan 22, 2011, at 3:31 PM, Gabbroral Complex wrote: hi, after two years of lurkin'n'coding I wrote XmiX, a full OSC oriented 8 tracks environment with client/server architecture over TCP/IP: http://puredata.info/Members/gabbro http://mag-one.noblogs.org/xmix hope you like it, :) mag-one ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list A cellphone to me is just an opportunity to be irritated wherever you are. - Linus Torvalds ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd quine?
That could almost be the start of a Pd-based virus. ~Kyle 2011/1/29 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt This is awesome!! You should add it to the wikipedia page on Quines ^_^ :) True! 2011/1/29 IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2011 08:12 PM, Tedb0t wrote: The thought just occurred to me... Has anyone ever made a Pd quine? Sounds like an interesting challenge... i once did a simple HQ9+ implementation. http://puredata.info/Members/zmoelnig/hq9/ fgasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1D9aQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQcKgCeJX2fQKR8Qhl5ZY+1fVNfGxLj fC8An3yk77kEuWp3jxLC0LyLzihoTalY =Hqih -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Music made with Pd
Yeah sounds good. Kind of a Field Music or Ghosts and Vodka sound to it. Good work on making some nice tunes. ~Kyle On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: Hi Pierre, nice music! Yes, it's interesting to listen to Pd played in a rock band. M From: Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Music made with Pd To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: aanlktin3+e=m6r4y0m1rwa9y72lj0l1ftr01grcqy...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi everyone, I just wanted to share some music i've made with my band, because i've used Pd with my guitar and a rt setup and i'm very happy with the results. I remember when i started experimenting with this a year ago, i had hope but i did not expect it to work so well. So here it is : http://pierreetleloup.bandcamp.com/ There's some Pd-processed guitar on the following songs: Not too sad, Nyctalope, Canop?e and We own the sky. The rest is just plain rock trio stuff (irrelevant here). There's no keyboard and i didn't need any hardware effetcs. So this gives me an opportunity to thank everybody on the list, it's really neat to always have someone who can help you and provide a bit of code! cheers! Pierre -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] You Complete Me: Paragraph Gallery in Kansas City, MO opens Sept 17
Shoot I used to live in KC but now am in Chicago. I have some buddies (Seth and Ashley) that would probably get a kick out of your stuff though. I used Pd with a few interactive projects with their group Carnal Torpor. ~Kyle On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM, John Harrison johnharrison...@gmail.comwrote: Hack.Art.Lab show opens Sept 17 6pm in Kansas City. 7 interactive art projects, 3 of which I built on Pd. Any Pders in Kansas City, I'd love to meet you. I'll be around for the show opening 6-9 Fri Sept 17 and the Sneak Peak Under the Hook in collaboration with hackerspace Computer Cowtown Congress Sat Sept 18 12-5. See attached. -John -- John http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison/http://alumni.media.mit.edu/%7Eharrison/ ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gigs with Pd
This performance is awesome! I haven't seen experimental bassoon before. It makes me wish I'd kept up with it after junior high school. ~Kyle On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.comwrote: Hello list, Well i do have in mind some ideas i want to implement with pd/hardware, one of them is using a single board computer to run pd without GUI, just using some little lcd screen. Maybe using a beagle board, that features a ARM Cortex A8 that has some floating point support, with the NEON instruction SET(I will need to recompile Pd for that). Other than that i can also post the Hardware/Setup i used on some performances. The hardware list is : Computer - Dell Studio 1737 Audio Interface - Edirol FA-101 MIDI Foot controller - Behringer FCB1010 Bassoon bocal pickup a wireless send/receive from Sennheiser and sometimes I use external sensors, like the wiimote, or some others connected to an Arduino board. Software side is: OS: UbuntuStudio, Driver/sound server: Jack/FFADO and of course, Pd I have a video of one of the performances, it was my first public performance using RT effects and using Pd, It is not very good, but I am looking forward to improve it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNsOtl8ia0k 2010/5/7 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com What kind of documentation would you like? I can tell you about the hardware: - Dell D520 Laptop with Intel Core2 Duo, with Fedora 12 and the Planet CCRMA rt kernel. - EMU 0404 USB soundcard (2 ins 2 outs) - A small Shure transformer to turn the balanced output of the soundcard into an unbalanced input for the amp. - Foot controller made off the cheapest USB analog gamepad one can find (I'd recommend going for a higher quality, though...) I could send you some pictures of the controller, too. As i said before i doubt that my patch is written well enough for it to be worth sharing. Yet i'll always be there to help if someone wants to make his own. Pierre 2010/5/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at It would be great to see some documentation of this setup so that others can learn from it. You might be interested in Pd on Android, iPhone, Maemo, etc. and other mobile devices. Mobile devices are getting quite powerful, and they are already small. Then you'd even have a battery powered setup ;) .hc On May 2, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hello everyone! There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a live context (off the smoother audio thread i think). I just wanted to say that i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects. I have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent, and everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this software and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think this is the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have the perfect gear (perfect for me). Just wanted to share this. Cheers! Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Another Phase Vocoder (sample based)
Haha! I love it. Great Obama sample/revelation. ~Kyle On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:35 AM, Alexandre Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Folks! I adapted my Live Phase Vocoder Abstraction [LPVoc] to a sample based Phase Vocoder -- [PVoc]. Works with Mono Stereo, but can be used for more channels. PVoc LPVoc now come with shy help files, but official manuals are still in their guts. A [LPVoc] was also taken care of... Both abstractions, help files sound file examples are in the zip file below: http://sites.google.com/site/porres/PhaseVoc.zip Curious fact: [PVoc]'s help has an excerpt of Obama's speech where he says Let me Express but, when heard backwards, we clearly hear what he meant: Serve Satan. Cheers Alex ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recording to array in loop mode?
It would also be possible to do this using [delay~] objects instead of arrays. ~Kyle On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, volker böhm vbo...@gmx.ch wrote: thanks for your suggestions, guys. sorry, if i wasn't clear, but i'm not looking for (cross)fades. i'd like to perform circular recording into an array, constantly overwriting what has been recorded before. so if you put the playhead a little behind (or before - as it's circular it depends on your view) you get a simple delay. as the trigger to start recording with tabwrite~ is not sample accurate, i can't get a constant recording without clicks at the trigger points - at least not with my limited understanding of pd. but i think i've just found a solution using poke~ (which seems to be the same as in max). thanks, volker. On 18.01.2010, at 11:46, João Pais wrote: how do you read the array? just fast, I'm thinking of adding a fade in + fade out. you can put it either before the recording, or after reading it. just depends where it's easier to detect the array's writing/reading point going from xxx to 0. I don't know if Grill's xsample library can help you, I don't know it myself - http://puredata.info/Members/thomas (not included in Pd-ext). João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] recording to array in loop mode?
Sorry, I skimmed that first email too quickly. Delaywrite~/read~ objects would definitely be a decent alternative if you want to avoid clicking sounds. It is possible to tap a delay from multiple patches, as long as it is not named with a $0 at the beginning. I would use this approach unless you for some reason would want to save the internals of the delay buffer, which seems unlikely. ~Kyle On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: It would also be possible to do this using [delay~] objects instead of arrays. ~Kyle On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, volker böhm vbo...@gmx.ch wrote: thanks for your suggestions, guys. sorry, if i wasn't clear, but i'm not looking for (cross)fades. i'd like to perform circular recording into an array, constantly overwriting what has been recorded before. so if you put the playhead a little behind (or before - as it's circular it depends on your view) you get a simple delay. as the trigger to start recording with tabwrite~ is not sample accurate, i can't get a constant recording without clicks at the trigger points - at least not with my limited understanding of pd. but i think i've just found a solution using poke~ (which seems to be the same as in max). thanks, volker. On 18.01.2010, at 11:46, João Pais wrote: how do you read the array? just fast, I'm thinking of adding a fade in + fade out. you can put it either before the recording, or after reading it. just depends where it's easier to detect the array's writing/reading point going from xxx to 0. I don't know if Grill's xsample library can help you, I don't know it myself - http://puredata.info/Members/thomas (not included in Pd-ext). João ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] help browser rewrite
I have one request, and that's one that fbar wrote about a while back. Is it possible to make the help menu keyboard-navigable? That would ease a lot of pains in using it. ~Kyle On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: So I am in the midst of rewriting the Help Browser to make it based on which libraries are installed and usable, i.e which libraries can be found in the global path. For me, the key part is making it dynamically built and based on the libraries that are in use. I don't have a strong idea of other parts. The idea is to make it based around the libdir/dirlib approach of having all files for a library in a single folder with a standardized but easy structure. Here's a basic outline of that structure as it stands now: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/Libdir/ Right now, I am thinking that the top level of the help browser will have special sections for the classic pd-vanilla docs (1.manual, 2.control.examples, etc.) another special section for tutorials of any kind, then all of the libraries and stray help patches found in the path. .hc If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.- Thomas Jefferson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
Thanks! ~Kyle On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:30 PM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: ooops.. now attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 2:29 PM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote: ah yeah thanks hans... i didn't know that example patch was included. thanks for the help! my patch attached. m On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: Please post your final patch! ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are included in Pd-extended. .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: ... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ -- mark edward grimm | m.f.a | ed.m syracuse u. | vpa foundations | timearts adjunct | new media consultant megrimm.net | socialmediagroup.org mgr...@syr.edu | 315.378.2136 _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] select audio midi from patch
Please post your final patch! ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Check out hcs/get-audio-dialog and hcs/get-midi-dialog, they are included in Pd-extended. .hc On Dec 30, 2009, at 2:34 PM, mark edward grimm wrote: ... continuing this thread: http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-09/064895.html maybe there is a thread more recent than Mon Sep 8 04:06:35 CEST 2008 on this? Anyway I am on OSX pd-extended 10.6.2. The attached patch seems to work 'ok'. BUT for some reason 1) I have to bang the message twice to load the midi settings in the dialog box and 2) I have to click apply and/or OK for these setting to take effect. I would like to automatically change the settings when the patch is loaded without banging twice and hitting 'ok' in the properties menu sorry. but i couldn't find more recent documentation on this Cheers! mark audiomidi_properties.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A present
Maybe we can all agree that this is a good reason to use name spaces? ~Kyle 2009/12/30 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: zexy's [wrap] gets it wrong by having only two inlets and using a list to set the min/max. zexy's [wrap] doesn't get it wrong if you follow the true church. fgmadsr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] super-fun and don't ask me
Whoa. On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 11:05 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: http://playaround.cc/Avatar ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ornament sound
Yeah this is really cool! I love holding up random sheets of paper to see the according wavetable adjust. Very nice, simple, creative work! Thanks for sharing it. ~Kyle On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Wow, I love it! Its great fun to make sound with it just by waving your hands around in front of the video camera! I could see that being turning into a full instrument. perhaps capturing three different lines and using those to build up the chord. Also, it would be nice to have a volume control based on change, i.e. if there was no change in the line, it would fade out, then change would raise the amplitude again. .hc On Dec 20, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Max wrote: Hi list, here is a simple patch I'd like to share with you. If you print the attached .pdf and hold the patterns in front of the camera you can make interesting sounds. Inspired by a Fischinger exhibit at the “See This Sound” exhibition in Linz. http://www.mediaartnet.org/artist/fischinger/biography/ http://beta.see-this-sound.at/werke/296 camera_wavetable.pdornament_sound.pdf mn___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Vowel identification
I really like your whole site, William! Especially the bit about PIC programming with OS X. ~Kyle On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: really interesting work, thanks for sharing. I'm thinking about a future implementation of your work in C::NTR::Lhttp://cntrl.sourceforge.net/ . The graphic timbre map is definitely great work too, reminds me of the metasurface concept in AudioMulch. It will be great to develop such interfaces when there will be the opportunity to use multiple GEM windows. -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Can pd+gem can do this?
Thanks for that link, xà! ~Kyle On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:02 AM, xà freequenc...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/17 vibro...@laposte.net: Hi all, i got a project in mind, and i´m looking for a tool capable of doing this: i got a camera, that feeds 320x240 at a quite fast rate (100fps) The image will be black and white and show points moving (a hundred, think about fireflies, i´d the same) The idea is to map and track those points, and display in realtime moving sprites with gem (like smileys, or anything) So, i digged a bit, and found either pd+gem or reactable software framework+custom code Here there is a Emanuele Mazza's nice tool based on OpenFrameworks that may be is useful for your purpose: http://gamuza.d3cod3.org/ salut x! Any advices, testimonials would be great! Thanks a lot Tristan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://noconventions.mobi/nvisible.taz/ http://hackthedj.wordpress.com/ :::..::...:.. : .. .. .:: . ..:.. .. . .. . .:.. ... rm -rf / i ens ho carreguem tot ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)
Not exactly, the Arduino Duemilanove uses the ATmega168 chip. I have no knowledge of the FT232. Comport works really well on OSX with Pd however. The only issue is that it will crash Pd if you disconnect the USB without first disconnecting in the software. This is in the bugtracker/list of fixes, so maybe sometime soon it will be solved. Other than that, it works great. Good luck on your project, and be sure to send documentation of the completed work. It sounds interesting. ~Kyle On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Martin Peach martin.pe...@sympatico.cawrote: The Arduino uses the FT232 or something just like it. You need to install drivers for it. They are included with the Arduino software. Martin Felix Obée wrote: Hello together, this is my first post to this list, so please take it easy on me if I missed some point or my problem is trivial. Here's the project: I am building a system of approximately 200 little speakers that can be switched on/off individually. This works via 4066 8bit-registers that are filled by an atmega. I want to use PD to feed the atmega the bits that then go into the registers. At the same time I want to feed a step motor and get feedback about its current position. Here's the question: Has anybody here experience with using an ft232 ( http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232BM.htm) with PD? It provides a virtual serial port via usb and appears the easiest (cheapest) way to communicate. I'm using OSX and drivers for the chip are provided. I am not at all firm with PD right now. Last time I used Max/MSP an thats about 5 years ago. As I understand, the [comport] object works with OSX now. I couldn't find much in the forum about sending data to the outside. Most things seem to be done via Arduino and its derivates… Thanks for your help. cheers ff ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)
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Re: [PD] Max4Live... How about Pd4Live?
I heard that cash makes it more fun.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Michal Seta wrote:
http://gabe.is-a-geek.org/composite/
it is in the planning stage...
I hope that the guy has as much fun implementing, as he has planning.
There are lots of projects that starts with a spec and then... it's not fun
anymore. It's often not even the fault of the spec.
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Thirty-second meeting of th e Pd club of Montréal, QC
Neat flyer.
~Kyle
2009/11/10 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
à Vidéographe Production, 4550, rue Garnier (coin Mont-Royal)
le 11 novembre 2009, de 18h30 à 21h30 (approximativement)
au programme:
18h30. Démonstration du logiciel PureData pour les gens qui ne le
connaissent pas mais qui pourraient vouloir l'apprendre. (présentateur:
Mathieu Bouchard)
19h00. Anthologie de nos oeuvres préférées (musique, vidéo, etc)
2A. présentation par Mathieu Bouchard
2B. présentation par Patrick S Coulombe
2C. présentation par Michal Seta
2D. présentation par Patrick Boivin
2E. présentation par Thomas O Fredericks
Notez que l'ordre de ces présentations (section 2) peut changer; et que
contrairement à l'habitude, il s'agit plus d'un visionnement (et/ou écoute),
que de notre style conférencier habituel.
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Re: [PD] tab-abs
I would encourage it!
A Pd-vanilla approach to table manipulations is sadly lacking, and list-abs
is a beautiful API to adhere to.
I'm sure that many rj-dj programmers wouldn't mind something like this...
~Kyle
2009/11/8 Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
Ah, yes, thanks! I've said it before -- one of my favorite things
about list-abs is their use in pedagogy -- you can get under the
hood in them with music students and they don't have to learn C to do
it (each of the list-abs objects could be written much more
efficiently in C but it's nice to have them as abstractions, and
vanilla abstractions at that). These iem_tab objects are great as far
as use-within-a-patch is concerned, though, so again thanks. Maybe
I'll make my own abstractions for pedagogy.
Matt
2009/11/8 Raphaël Isdant raphael.isd...@free.fr:
Hi, you should check into /pd/extra/iem_tab
Raf
- Original Message - From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
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Subject: [PD] tab-abs
Hello,
I think this has been proposed before, so maybe I've missed it. Is
there a library of abstractions for operations on tables akin to
list-abs? If not, I'd like to consider how such a library might be
organized A lot of the list-abs abstractions could be translated and
used for tables. I could imagine for instance abstractions that would
fill tables with various kinds of windows, and some that would
implement such windows in a named table within the abstraction itself.
Also, there might be abstractions that would perform the operations
in-place, and some that would leave the source table intact and copy
the results into another table. Etc.
Has this been developed and/or discussed already? I would have a few
to contribute.
Matt
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Re: [PD] GridFlow 0.9.6 for Mac OS X
Confirmed. I downloaded the latest Pd-extended release and GridFlow runs an
example patch!
Nice work, I've been waiting for this for years.
~Kyle
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Patrick Boivin pboi...@gmail.com wrote:
Reason: Incompatible library version: gridflow.pd_darwin requires
version 36.0.0 or later, but libpng12.0.dylib provides version 30.0.0
error: [import]: ERROR: can't load library in 'gridflow'
What version of Pd-extended are you using ? I made the package
referring to what libs were distributed with the most recent release
(0.41.4)...
~/ p...@banshee$ otool -L
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib
/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/libpng12.0.dylib:
@executable_path/../../lib/libpng12.0.dylib (compatibility version
36.0.0, current version 36.0.0)
/usr/lib/libz.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version
1.2.3)
/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 1.0.0)
/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current
version 88.3.11)
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Re: [PD] emulating the behaviour of a midi keyboard: trouble with repeated notes
Try researching edge detection.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi
athos.bacchioc...@tin.itwrote:
hi,
i'm working on a little project in which some notes with random pitches and
duration appear at random time intervals. Each note is packed in a midi
format (pitch and velocity), with a note-off event (pitch and zero velocity)
sent after the note duration interval.
it can happen that a new note is generated before the previous one has
been stopped.That's not a trouble, since i can handle it with [poly],
eventually set to 1 voice and with voice stealing to force a monophonic
melody.
The problem appears if the new note coming has the same pitch than the
previous one. This is impossible for a real midi keyboard, in fact a key
can be played again only after it has been released.
This leads to an undesired behaviour of [poly]: if there are more than 1
voice, i have the sum of different voices playing the same note, with an
undesiderd increase of the volume. Even worse, when the voice is only one,
the note-off message of the previous note stops the new note before its
assigned time duration!
I tried to set up a strategy to avoid this, but with no results. Any idea?
thanks,
athos
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Re: [PD] emulating the behaviour of a midi keyboard: trouble with repeated notes
Sorry, did not read that deep enough the first time.
Wish I could help more, but I can't.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote:
Try researching edge detection.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi
athos.bacchioc...@tin.it wrote:
hi,
i'm working on a little project in which some notes with random pitches
and duration appear at random time intervals. Each note is packed in a
midi format (pitch and velocity), with a note-off event (pitch and zero
velocity) sent after the note duration interval.
it can happen that a new note is generated before the previous one has
been stopped.That's not a trouble, since i can handle it with [poly],
eventually set to 1 voice and with voice stealing to force a monophonic
melody.
The problem appears if the new note coming has the same pitch than the
previous one. This is impossible for a real midi keyboard, in fact a key
can be played again only after it has been released.
This leads to an undesired behaviour of [poly]: if there are more than 1
voice, i have the sum of different voices playing the same note, with an
undesiderd increase of the volume. Even worse, when the voice is only one,
the note-off message of the previous note stops the new note before its
assigned time duration!
I tried to set up a strategy to avoid this, but with no results. Any
idea?
thanks,
athos
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Re: [PD] pd_opencv 0.2-rc4
Excellent work. These look really fun!
~Kyle
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:22 AM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote:
ola,
after a week of intensive workshop in baltan laboratories
( http://www.baltanlaboratories.org/ ),
we released a new version of OpenCV for PD,
version 0.2-rc4 that fixes the following issues :
##
version 0.2-rc4 ( codename BALTANIK )
* fixed colorspace problems for mac ppc
* contours detection objects ( hu_compare and pgh_compare )
now give the posititon of matching contours.
* a folder of examples have been added,
they should work with pd-extended.
##
you can find binaries for mac osx and linux packages on the wiki
as well as the source code ( for those who want to compile it ) here :
http://www.hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv
some videos of the workshop have been published here :
http://giss.tv/dmmdb/index.php?channel=pdopencv
well, lluis mainly fixed the problems
while i was at the coffee shop,
but it's time to go back there
ciao,
sevy
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Re: [PD] Percolate
Except the help files aren't very helpful for me. I can barely get sound out
of many of the objects. There isn't a very detailed account of what range
the inputs receive, or how to trigger sound events...
~Kyle
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu wrote:
Or including it in Pd-extended!?!
yeah that would be ideal!
BTW Mark, have you thought about dropping the Percolate
developers a note to ask them to update their links?
ha... no
:)
m
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Subject: Re: [PD] Percolate
To: rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net, Hans-Christoph Steiner
h...@at.or.at
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 12:21 PM
Or including it in Pd-extended!?!
~Kyle
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM,
rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net
wrote:
I stand corrected :)
Mark, thanks! This is great!
Now, if someone could also point me to a Windoze version of
Percolate for Pd, I'd be totally happy :)
Rene
BTW Mark, have you thought about dropping the Percolate
developers a note to ask them to update their links?
On Sep 26, 2009, at 18:12, pd-list-requ...@iem.at
wrote:
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:29:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] Percolate
To: pd-list@iem.at
Message-ID: 358216.94182...@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com
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So it seems that right now you have two options; find a
way
to do your project without the Percolate objects, or move
to
Max/MSP ...
um... thats not true. i compiled the source a while ago.
heres a binary. works on 10.5 and 10.6 if on osx:
http://megrimm.net/software/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5.zip
i have the sources + xcode project somewhere I think... i
would have to look around...
mark
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Re: [PD] Percolate
Or including it in Pd-extended!?!
~Kyle
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM, rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net wrote:
I stand corrected :)
Mark, thanks! This is great!
Now, if someone could also point me to a Windoze version of Percolate for
Pd, I'd be totally happy :)
Rene
BTW Mark, have you thought about dropping the Percolate developers a note
to ask them to update their links?
On Sep 26, 2009, at 18:12, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote:
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:29:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: mark edward grimm mgr...@syr.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] Percolate
To: pd-list@iem.at
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So it seems that right now you have two options; find a way
to do your project without the Percolate objects, or move to
Max/MSP ...
um... thats not true. i compiled the source a while ago. heres a binary.
works on 10.5 and 10.6 if on osx:
http://megrimm.net/software/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5/PeRColate-OSX-Intel-10.5.zip
i have the sources + xcode project somewhere I think... i would have to
look around...
mark
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Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
Or more likely, a ton of headaches!
~Kyle
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:
Now with Csound for Pd and Max for Live, you could have Csound for Pd for
Max for Live!
.hc
On Aug 27, 2009, at 11:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
Hi Miller,
Will [pd~] ever be available for windows machines? Or is it just not
possible to implement (I remember reading about some technical hurdle
but I can't remember what it is at the moment)?
Thanks,
Jonathan
--- On Fri, 8/28/09, Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu wrote:
From: Miller Puckette mpuck...@imusic1.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] pd~ for Max
To: Max abonneme...@revolwear.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 5:35 AM
Oops, sorry about that... I
reorganized some stuff and that fell
through a crack. It's back up on:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htmlhttp://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Emsp/software.html
cheers
Miller
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 03:21:57AM +0200, Max wrote:
Hi List,
i've been asked by students where to download the
starter drug ?pd~
for Max? and i could not find it myself - i thought it
is available?
It's neither here:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.htmlhttp://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Etapel/software.html
nor
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htmlhttp://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Emsp/software.html
and here neither:
http://www.maxobjects.com/?v=authorsinitiale=M
max
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Re: [PD] Metastudio 3!!
Hey Ed~
Looks good, but I cannot load these examples out of the box with
Pd-extended. This makes it a bit difficult to explore. Maybe you could also
include a README.txt file to help with installation?
Thanks,
~Kyle
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Hi all, who are here in SP or not,
Metastudio 3 is out, and you can download it at
http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata
There will be more, and I will continue to make the help files and nogui
versions and fix bugs. Check the app folder for some examples though, and
have a lot of fun.
Best,
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Re: [PD] Pd Tutorial redesigned
Clap clap clap.
~Kyle
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:
Yves, you could write a tutorial too, instead of giving people on the list
a hard time. Why should anyone write a tutorial the way you want it? Be
punk rock, and do it yourself.
.hc
On Jul 5, 2009, at 12:24 PM, ydego...@gmail.com wrote:
the meaning of that
( como unos son un poco espesos aki )
is that it's sad to think that there will be
only one pd tutorial
registered at www.pd-tutorial.com!
that's what will come up on google,
and of course this tutorial doesn't cover
many things of pd, hem...
it seems to me there were more of them
in the user space of the wiki...
http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/
( at least this one had an s )
but it's a general trend in pd community,
hierarchy got in the place..
anarchy? no that's only diversity, sir...
pd : about the college jokes of a D.H.,
is that the same guy who refuses to document
any FLOSS than runs only in Linux?
that all should run on Windows?
i just don't want to know.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:34 AM, ydego...@gmail.com mailto:
ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.com mailto:ydego...@gmail.com
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gosh, looks like a .com out there,
is that the only way to make music with pd?
let's say if i hate sequencers,
reverbs and effects?
sevy
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Tutorial: Drum pattern editing in Pd using the rj library
This looks promising! I will give it a tour sometime in the next day or two.
Glad to see some composer-angled tutorials using rj-lib!
~Kyle
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hi,
here's a little tutorial introduction to editing drum and other
patterns in Pd using the rj-library developed for RjDj (a Pd
vanilla library):
http://more.rjdj.me/2009/06/23/editing-drum-patterns-in-rjdj/
Have fun, make a scene.
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Re: [PD] Gem as GUI
Where is this in the library? I can't seem to find any GUI's listed under
the gems category.
~Kyle
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-08 at 21:21 -0300, glerm soares wrote:
Is there any project of abstractions that uses Gem as Graphic User
Interface seriously?
I mean: Create other design of tables, envelopes, data representation,
even other design of buttons, leds, sliders and knobs that could be
manipulated in realtime
A library of Gem objects for that could worth? Or it would be too much
cpu expensive for DSP audio ?
I guess, it would be even much faster to display constantly updating
arrays or other GUIs in Gem.
I'm curious about it...
Do we have some examples?
Checkout the pdmtl abstraction library. it ships with a Gem GUI
framework.
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Re: [PD] DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
Great!
What city is Room 205 in again?
:-)
~Kyle
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Jason Plumb ja...@noisybox.net wrote:
DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
We are excited to announce a new workshop series devoted to Pure Data
(Pd). http://puredata.info/
Pd (aka Pure Data) is a real-time graphical programming environment
for audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major
branch of the family of patcher programming languages known as Max
(Max/FTS, ISPW Max, Max/MSP, jMax, etc.) originally developed by
Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM.
Pure Data is free [FLOSS] software - meaning there is no charge for
the download and it is open source, (free/libre). It runs wonderfully
on Mac, Linux, Windows - so bring any laptop. Come with Pd-extended
installed if possible - otherwise come a little early for installation
assistance. The workshop is free as well!
We will will be doing several workshops starting from the ground up -
and ranging topics as advanced as there is interest for.
Workshop One will be held May 17th. No prior Pd or programming
knowledge is required, but expect to leave with functional knowledge
of how to use Pd. The outline in progress can be found here:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pd_workshop_2009_outline
But we want to hear from you! We'd love to get a rough idea of how
many people are interested in attending.
Do you use Pd? Do you use similar commercial software like Max/MSP? Are
you interested in learning Pd? Why? What are some of your ideas?
Pd is an incredibly open-ended platform so we're trying to get an idea
of where the majority's (if there is a majority) interests lie
Physical Interfaces for music? Live DSP? Generative composition?
Video? Dance? Robotic cat toys? Feedforward most welcome!
Bring a laptop with Pd-extended installed, if possible. Otherwise come
a little early for installation help!
http://puredata.info/downloads
When: May 17th, 2009
Where: PNCA room 205
Time: 1-5pm
See you there!
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Re: [PD] DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
Thanks for the update. I hope you have a nice turnout.
~Kyle
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Jason Plumb ja...@noisybox.net wrote:
Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
What city is Room 205 in again?
The ridicule is well deserved! Sorry for not making it more clear...
The workshop series is organized by Dorkbot PDX (Portland, OR) and the
first session will be held at the Pacific Northwest College of Art (in
Portland, OR).
-jason
DorkbotPDX introduces free Pure Data workshop series
We are excited to announce a new workshop series devoted to Pure Data
(Pd). http://puredata.info/
Pd (aka Pure Data) is a real-time graphical programming environment
for audio, video, and graphical processing. It is the third major
branch of the family of patcher programming languages known as Max
(Max/FTS, ISPW Max, Max/MSP, jMax, etc.) originally developed by
Miller Puckette and company at IRCAM.
Pure Data is free [FLOSS] software - meaning there is no charge for
the download and it is open source, (free/libre). It runs wonderfully
on Mac, Linux, Windows - so bring any laptop. Come with Pd-extended
installed if possible - otherwise come a little early for installation
assistance. The workshop is free as well!
We will will be doing several workshops starting from the ground up -
and ranging topics as advanced as there is interest for.
Workshop One will be held May 17th. No prior Pd or programming
knowledge is required, but expect to leave with functional knowledge
of how to use Pd. The outline in progress can be found here:
http://dorkbotpdx.org/wiki/pd_workshop_2009_outline
But we want to hear from you! We'd love to get a rough idea of how
many people are interested in attending.
Do you use Pd? Do you use similar commercial software like Max/MSP? Are
you interested in learning Pd? Why? What are some of your ideas?
Pd is an incredibly open-ended platform so we're trying to get an idea
of where the majority's (if there is a majority) interests lie
Physical Interfaces for music? Live DSP? Generative composition?
Video? Dance? Robotic cat toys? Feedforward most welcome!
Bring a laptop with Pd-extended installed, if possible. Otherwise come
a little early for installation help!
http://puredata.info/downloads
When: May 17th, 2009
Where: PNCA room 205 - [[in Portland, OR!]]
Time: 1-5pm
See you there!
-jason
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Re: [PD] my music for us
I likey.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato
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Brothers i send my music for you, for the friendly downloable.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=442360
Cheers from CHile
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, March 29th 5pm)
Yeah let's have an external-write-a-thon!
I'm all for doing some stuff monthly.
Also, we could play around with the Arduino/sensors some more. I'll try to
whip up a network patch that shares the raw info for the sensors and we can
have fun playing with our own mappings!
I'm all for hosting a session at my place too. I have a lot of space. That's
if you don't mind the commute down to 35th and Archer on the Orange Line.
~Kyle
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote:
Once a month sounds reasonable to me. That feels like enough time for
us each to make some progress between meetings. I'm open to whatever
though.
Definitely interested in a workshop on writing externals. It's an
area that I know very little about and feel like an in-person
discussion would be a good boost.
And I don't mind a bit of traveling, just so long as I can get there
by public transportation.
-Ben
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, thanks for coming out. I especially liked the Arduino/Sensor
demo. I will have to talk with you, Kyle, about how to build one and
where you got the parts.
And Ben, it would be great to see some of the stuff you are working
on, hopefully your moving out of the neighborhood won't deter that...
Of course, we could do this again somewhere else.
But the idea of hold a small workshop on writing externals would be a
great idea. I would be more than happy to share what info I have. An
idea for the next meeting.
Which bring me to the next question. When is the next meeting? Would
you like to try this once a month? More, Less?
Thanks again, I would like to see this happen more often.
Mike
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yeah it was fun to share some meat-space with fellow geeks.
We'll have to plan another one soon, and try to promote it a bit more.
~Kyle
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Ben Baker-Smith
bbakersm...@gmail.com
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Thanks to Mike for organizing the Chicago meeting yesterday, and to
Kyle for also showing up.
It was good to connect with some other PD users here, and totally
interesting to see what you've been working on / have worked on. Even
(or especially) when it was over my head.
I'd like to do it again some time, assuming that you both haven't
gotten completely jaded and stopped using PD completely ;)
I'll be sure to bring some of my own material.
-Ben
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Re: [PD] PD t-shirts
Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty.
I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the money in
trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the cash in. Then
create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key features are
to be implemented and the financial payment for each.
You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say $20 US
each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing existing
patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades to go.
I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd-con. I'd
love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather see some
solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to do it!
(Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly).
~Kyle
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon. But, having never
been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns.
I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward
documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD more
accessible to new users. Does the convention encourage/promote
documentation? Is time spent at the convention trying to increase the
existing body of literature?
If so, then I'm all for it. I just don't want to settle on PdCon if
it's only useful to attendees. (of course, I understand that in a
good open-source community knowledge gained by any members contributes
in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more
formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list)
Glad to hear the interest. I'm still looking into the best way to go
about printing, selling, and distributing.
If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and
added input.
-Ben
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay
acastong...@artengine.ca wrote:
Hi Ben, all,
We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in
Montréal. We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the
proceeds :-). Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo?
The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the original t's I
should still have it if you want.
À bientôt,
Alexandre
Hello List,
I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts. I haven't
totally worked out the logistics. Basically I was inspired by the
[Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available
as far as I can tell.
Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward
further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly
documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the same
thing).
How do you all think would be the best way of going about this?
Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a sort of
grant? That's less than ideal in my opinion. I really don't know how
to go about this.
Any/all input is welcome
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Re: [PD] data moshing
I saw this blog post on Create Digital Motion:
http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/03/31/liquidify-video-live-optical-flow-glsl-datamosh-technique/
Here's the Cycling74 message board post with the required files:
http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msgth=38844start=0rid=2688S=3c1715ca7dd8fbb362e97106b668a3da
There are links to a download of the Jitter patches along with some GLSL
shaders. You could possibly use the shaders with a Gem patch to do the same
thing, assuming that the Jitter patch is just a wrapper for the shaders. I
can't open the patches to figure them out, so you'd have to find a resident
shader expert to help reverse engineer them.
~Kyle
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:10 AM, t'es in t'es bat tesintes...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello tout le monde
i work on data moshing and bending old machines to make textures for a
movie.
I find this example with max/msp on vimeo:
http://vimeo.com/3950332
is there a way to make same with pd...
I work on mac osX and/or ubuntu and i wonder if it 's possible...?
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Re: [PD] data moshing
Also, this post has a video that shows the actual Jitter patch. Maybe you
can try to translate it to Gem/Pd?
http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/04/01/video-tutorial-get-max-y-jitter-y-goodness-in-cell-dna-for-moshing-your-optical-flow/
~Kyle
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote:
I saw this blog post on Create Digital Motion:
http://createdigitalmotion.com/2009/03/31/liquidify-video-live-optical-flow-glsl-datamosh-technique/
Here's the Cycling74 message board post with the required files:
http://www.cycling74.com/forums/index.php?t=msgth=38844start=0rid=2688S=3c1715ca7dd8fbb362e97106b668a3da
There are links to a download of the Jitter patches along with some GLSL
shaders. You could possibly use the shaders with a Gem patch to do the same
thing, assuming that the Jitter patch is just a wrapper for the shaders. I
can't open the patches to figure them out, so you'd have to find a resident
shader expert to help reverse engineer them.
~Kyle
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:10 AM, t'es in t'es bat tesintes...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello tout le monde
i work on data moshing and bending old machines to make textures for a
movie.
I find this example with max/msp on vimeo:
http://vimeo.com/3950332
is there a way to make same with pd...
I work on mac osX and/or ubuntu and i wonder if it 's possible...?
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Re: [PD] data moshing
Please do! I look forward to your inevitable success.
Godspeed,
~Kyle
On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:11 PM, t'es in t'es bat tesintes...@gmail.comwrote:
thanks ~Kyle, thanks philippe for helping
if i succeed i'll post the patch and a link for example...
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, March 29th 5pm)
Yeah it was fun to share some meat-space with fellow geeks.
We'll have to plan another one soon, and try to promote it a bit more.
~Kyle
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks to Mike for organizing the Chicago meeting yesterday, and to
Kyle for also showing up.
It was good to connect with some other PD users here, and totally
interesting to see what you've been working on / have worked on. Even
(or especially) when it was over my head.
I'd like to do it again some time, assuming that you both haven't
gotten completely jaded and stopped using PD completely ;)
I'll be sure to bring some of my own material.
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Re: [PD] A patch to share
Neat! ~Kyle On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Pall Thayer pa...@pallit.lhi.is wrote: I was going through some old stuff on my computer and found this patch I made a few years ago for a project called Autodrawn. The piece used to run on my server but due to my laziness in updating or even upgrading my server it's no longer running. However, the PD patch that goes with the work is interesting so I want to share it with the community. I've loosely applied the GPL to it. It might not be an interesting technical feat but rather conceptually. It plays a repeated sequence from Kraftwerk's Autobahn interspersed with live mp3 feeds of police scanners. The idea was to take the idea of the autobahn as portrayed on the original album cover, as something beautifully peaceful and positive and turn it into a more modern view of the freeway as something ominous and dangerous which has taken on an even newer meaning in recent years as a symbol of the negative impacts our fossil fuel consumption is having on the environment. Also, I just think it sounds cool. Even though it's just playing the same short sequence over and over again, it's still fun to listen to for long periods of time. So, if you find something interesting to do with it, feel free. best r. Pall Thayer #N canvas 4 98 985 512 10; #X obj 149 96 mp3amp~; #X msg 19 70 disconnect; #X floatatom 193 123 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 234 96 vsl 15 128 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 327 108 mp3amp~; #X msg 264 86 disconnect; #X floatatom 371 135 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 412 108 vsl 15 128 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 466 123 delread~ dc 400; #X obj 466 167 delwrite~ dc 400; #X floatatom 466 105 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 12 104 delread~ sas 400; #X obj 12 148 delwrite~ sas 400; #X obj 471 145 *~ 0.1; #X obj 17 126 *~ 0.1; #X obj 149 306 mp3amp~; #X msg 86 269 disconnect; #X floatatom 193 333 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 234 306 vsl 15 128 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X floatatom 322 334 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 327 374 *~ 0.1; #X obj 322 352 delread~ sw 400; #X obj 322 396 delwrite~ sw 400; #X obj 544 326 f; #X obj 615 326 + 1; #X obj 683 274 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X floatatom 563 378 5 0 0 0 - - -; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array array103 100 float 1; #A 0 68 61 0 73 66 0 0 0 0 75.7258 75.7258 75.7258 73.1658 68.0458 65.4858 65.4858 66.3391 67.1925 68.0458 68.0458 68.0458 62.9258 61.6458 60.3658 57.8058 55.2458 52.6858 50.1258 47.5658 45.0058 42.4458 39.8857 38.1791 36.4724 34.7658 33.0591 31.3524 29.6457 27.0857 24.5257 21.9657 19.4057 18.1257 16.8457 16.8457 14.2857 14.2857 9.16572 4.04571 1.50713 1.54285 45.082 50.202 47.642 47.642 47.642 47.642 47.642 48.4953 49.3486 50.202 51.0553 51.9086 52.762 54.042 55.322 56.602 57.882 59.162 60.442 61.722 63.002 64.282 65.562 66.842 68.122 68.122 68.122 68.122 80.922 -0.385712 -0.414283 -0.45714 -0.47 -0.528568 -0.585711 -0.57 -0.614282 0 100 50 78 54 0 0 0 0 0 0 0; #X coords 0 128 99 0 100 50 1; #X restore 619 176 graph; #X obj 547 347 tabread array103; #X obj 594 437 line; #X obj 525 459 *~; #X obj 521 392 mtof; #X obj 487 371 mtof; #X obj 487 393 osc~; #X obj 448 371 mtof; #X obj 681 370 route 0; #X obj 569 326 mod 8; #X msg 496 234 \; array103 0 68 61 0 73 66 0 0 0; #X obj 448 393 osc~; #X obj 521 414 osc~; #X obj 447 347 - 24; #X obj 486 347 - 12.1; #X obj 31 413 delwrite~ autob 450; #X obj 18 353 delread~ autob 450; #X obj 682 302 metro 300; #X obj 628 44 f; #X obj 699 44 + 1; #X obj 653 44 mod 2; #X floatatom 657 76 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 612 393 delay 5; #X obj 740 38 delay 5000; #X obj 342 53 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 361 44 delay 5000; #X obj 737 60 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 496 13 metro 30; #X obj 657 103 route 0 1; #X obj 657 125 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 686 125 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 715 125 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 49 2 delay 5000; #X obj 126 44 delay 5000; #X obj 762 153 route 0 1; #X obj 762 175 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 791 175 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 820 175 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 323 24 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 22 2 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 ; #X obj 761 127 pipe 6; #X obj 103 47 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 146 150 *~ 0.4; #X obj 146 360 *~ 0.23; #X obj 324 162 *~ 0.33; #X msg 286 306 connecturl http://12.40.197.36:8000; #X obj 794 250 route 0 1; #X obj 794 272 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 823 272
Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended
I took Modern Algebra as my first course in Higher Math. Big mistake.
Learning to do proofs this way is a big headache, especially if you have a
curmudgeonly teacher!
~Kyle
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Steffen Juul wrote:
Unveiled mysteries are indeed good, yes, we could almost define it as
learning. But did you learn Modern Algebra before Linear Algebra?
What I recall is that the first course of Modern Algebra (Group Theory)
didn't really use much of anything from Linear Algebra, but the second
course did. Your university may vary...
Basically, there's not much in a math degree curriculum that requires
Linear Algebra to be taught first. I could very well see one that teaches
Modern Algebra first, and it wouldn't be a scandal to me. There are probably
universities that do, somewhere -- at least if they are as experimental as
they are in compsci... some universities teach computer programming in quite
wild ways.
So, what's your point about unveiled mysteries?
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Re: [PD] ADSR variations [was: Re: Patch-off]
Nice. As a side note, the ADSR variations patch of Frank's show very clearly
how to use [vline~] correctly:
$1=lvl, $2=attack time, $3=decay time, $4=sustain level.
Go to $1 over $2 msec, go to $4 over $3 msec
Could use that in the vline~ help patch!
~Kyle
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
(For a strange reason my Iceweaselfirefox doesn't show the images for
that article. My iPhone does, so they must be there. Can you see the
images?)
Never mind: Ad(sr)-blocking gone wrong...
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Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended
I likey! Although, it would be nice to include [outlet~]s on the bottom to
pass through to recording devices.
~Kyle
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote:
On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
Steffen Juul wrote:
On 10/03/2009, at 18.11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
(...) and the green/white toggle from [pddp/dsp].
I quite strongly think [cvn]'s tricks should be avoided in help patches,
especially those default for vanilla objects.
what are [cnv]'s tricks? setting their colour?
i wouldn't call it a trick, as it is one of the few things you can
actually do with a cnv.
(a trick would probably be to set the send/receive labels at runtime;
which really makes patches rather unreadably; another trick would be to move
objects around to make GOPs be polymorphic; i agree that simple every-day
objects should probably avoid such things; i still don't see any trick in
setting the colour of a canvas or the value of a numberbox)
Reason being it took me quite some time before i got heads and tails of
it. Before that, it was a total mystery. Such mysteries are bad for learning
since it may well obstruct learning of basic things. There is enough syntax
to get into when starting to learn Pd.
but myteries unveiled are good for learning.
so it boils down to in-line documentation of the mysteries used.
So here's my attempt at a vanilla combination of Miller's output~,
rradical/ezdac~, and pddp/dsp.
.hc
fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] DIY GSoC: getting those projects done
Aaaw Fooey!
~Kyle
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote:
So now we have a nice collection of projects sketched out from the GSoC
application, let's encourage people to take them on. If anyone wants to get
involved with Pd development, take a look at the project ideas and if you
are interested, then ask about them on the list and we can get started.
http://puredata.info/dev/summer-of-code/GoogleSummerOfCodeIdeas2009
I think next time someone else should take on the GSoC application process.
I'm 2 for 2 at not getting it, I've never had much luck with grants. And
we have lots of well-sketched out projects. We should probably chuck the
application part and start from scratch.
.hc
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, March 29th 5pm)
Woo hoo!
~Kyle
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
I would like to invite any and everyone to a patching circle at the
Red Line Tap on Sunday, March 29th. (
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=redline+tap+chicagobtnG=Google+Searchcts=1237488991368aq=0oq=redline+tap
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I am planning to give a short demo of the SQLite externals I have been
working on.
The Red Line has a nice selection of beers for those into beer, so
come on out and share!!!
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Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com
Cool! I'll have fun playing with these examples. Thanks for the toot.
~Kyle
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
- inversion: That's a bit more complicated. Quoting Wikipedia:
Inverted melodies
When applied to melodies, the inversion of a given melody is the
melody turned upside-down. For instance, if the original melody has a
rising major third (see interval), the inverted melody has a falling
major third (or perhaps more likely, in tonal music, a falling minor
third, or even some other falling interval). Similarly, in twelve-tone
technique, the inversion of the tone row is the so-called prime series
turned upside-down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inversion_(music)#Inverted_melodies
In inversion.pd this is realised by walking through the list with
list-map, taking the difference between the current element and the
previous element, then substracting this from the current element.
The first element in a list is treated specially as it has no
previous element (it's just copied).
Ah, sorry: The patch is correct, but my explanation is wrong. Here's an
update:
In inversion.pd this is realised by walking through the list with
list-map. The
interval to use next is calculated by taking the difference between the
current
element and the previous element. This interval is substracted (not added,
because we are retro-grading) from the previous note, the resulting note
is
stored for the next step and inserted into the result list. The first
element
in a list is treated specially as it has no previous element: it's just
copied
and used as the starting note.
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Re: [PD] Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Yes! rjlib is really nice!
I finally tried using svn, it's really simple...I guess I was intimidated by
nothing.
svn checkout http://svn.rjdj.me/scenes/trunk/rjlib/
So simple!
But really, kudos on such a beautiful, minimal, functional, cohesive
library.
~Kyle
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Enrique Erne enri...@netpd.org wrote:
i had a look at rjlib. it's a beautiful collection. i love the fact that it
is not too big and not using any external.
though why is there a u_sssad.pd it seems the same as the original sssad.pd
frank didn't you say once you would prefer that people don't include their
own copy of sssad?
same with the new-fast list-drip in u_listdrip.. is it just for
naming-convention that you renamed the abstraction?
the whole e_ and s_ part is fantastic there are some really powerful
effects and filters in there. i looked more carefully and the only phone
related one is m_touch2grid which could be useful without a phone too.
is this the correct url?
http://svn.rjdj.me/scenes/trunk/rjlib/rj
hm... now i've seen
http://svn.rjdj.me/scenes/trunk/rjlib/
this is ofcorse phone specific and what confuses me now is that there is a
copy of sssad.pd
anyway rjlib/rj is just beautiful. what license is it released under?
i couldn't find anything about that in the wiki.
eni
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
hard off hat gesagt: // hard off wrote:
yeah sorry frank, i should have explained more clearly.
i also think that no GUI is the way to go for functional abstractions.
that
was the big flaw of the DIY library i did, that the function of the
abstractions was tied in with the gui component. i did it that way
because
i didn't want to clutter the namespace with too many abstractions, and
the
thought of one abstraction for function, and then a different one for GUI
was not appealing at the time.
but now, i think that is the only way to go. like, as you said, for
polyphony. and then also for the many many cases in which you'd want to
build your own gui for custom control.
Yeah, basically that was all I wanted to say as well. ;)
i do think you guys have got a really really strong system there with
rjlib. but i was just saying that without the gui stuff, it doesn't
exactly
fit into being that 'all purpose building blocks' library that we are
discussing.
Yes, that's true. rjlib has its focus on audio and control abstractions to
be
used on mobile devices with vanilla Pd. Some of this fits into a all
purpose
library, but a lot of it doesn't.
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Re: [PD] www.pd-tutorial.com
I must say this is a nice text. However, I was hoping to see more in the
department of sequencing/composition. This has great sound design elements,
but I am looking for better ways to compose with Pd.
Frank, I'm curious about how you use list objects in composition. I'd love
to see a little etude from you about that whenever you find the time. You
always make such clear, concise, and fun instructional patches.
~Kyle
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:42 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hallo,
Andy Farnell hat gesagt: // Andy Farnell wrote:
Congrats on finishing it Johannes.
This looks very nice. Some people ask if my book
focuses on sound design, and Millers book focuses on
DSP theory, why is there not a book dedicated to
composition in Pd? Well now there is.
Hm, you all are so fast readers, reading a book in less than one evening.
:)
By quickly scanning through the book and grep'ing the patches, I wonder,
why
not a single patch uses the [list] object which - not only because of the
[list]-abs - is one of my most often used objects especially for
composition? I
would expect a section on list-processing when teaching people how to
compose.
Anyway, I haven't read it yet, maybe these topics are presented without
[list].
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Re: [PD] Unified Library was Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
Maybe take a vote and see what convention is most popular: pdmtl,
s-abstractions, rjlib, netpd, or others I am not remembering.
Then, figure out which items from other libraries should be ported first to
this convention.
Next, give this library a special status within Pd-extended so that people
know they can go to it very easily, rather than getting mired down in the
list of funny names that is currently the examples folder.
A wiki is a good idea for the API f'sho. I am thinking pdmtl right now, but
have not looked at s-abs or rjlib very closely. Netpd is very nice too, just
needs to be categorized like pdmtl.
~Kyle
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote:
Count me in ... I think we just need to make a wiki page and all agree on
patching conventions as well as who can/should do what ... oh and mailing
lists?
My patches are focused on allowing me to playback midi files to run a drum
machine, live effects for guitar and vocals, generative or sequenced analog
style bass/lead synths, and easy mixing/bussing etc. I do not have a
dsp/digital approach to Pd, but I'm sure there's plenty who do ... this
could be a good collaborative project for sure.
i think this idea of making a unified library of patches is fantastic.
but
i don't think it should be a project given to a student with little
experience in pd.
i'd be more than happy to help out.
what would be the best way to set up communications between us, if we take
this on? that would be the first step i guess.
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[PD] EzPd (Re: Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!)
Thanks everyone for your replies and suggestions! It's good to know I'm not alone in my frustrations. I would really love to work on this project, since it would make it easier for me to teach K-8 students about acoustics and math using Pd if there were more LEGO-like primitives to snap together easily. If we can get something like this up as a candidate for GSoC, some wonderful things could arise from it. Most definitely, the names should be very easy to understand. That is part of my frustration right now with Pd-extended. There is a wealth of stuff, but it's all named oddly by different people and is difficult to explore in a meaningful way. Part of me thinks that Pd-extended needs to cut the fat a little bit...maybe a Pd-intended version? Only including an organized catalog of well-named, glue-able parts that all play nice together? ~Kyle On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Enrique Erne enri...@netpd.org wrote: hi Kyle i love the idea of a Classic Unit Library (CUL?) BBB - Beginners Building Blocks WSP - (Where to Start with Pd) WSP - warm swimming pool :) for me the first step would be to write some specs: - coding style guide (who did it? luke?), license, naming convention, howto contribute and also analyze existing libs: pdmtl, rjlib maybe you could even just build on them? i'd like to see the WSP Lib: - bsd - flat - super simple blackwhite interfaces - as pure as possible - a minimum of possible dependencies - not gopish ? - howto contribute? - with self explaining naming? i'm just about to upload my zipped netpd directory. http://netpd.org/eni/downloads/?C=M;O=D (8.9MB because there are some samples) eni Kyle Klipowicz wrote: How about this project: Beginners Building Blocks. Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if there were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly be set up automatically to use SSAD. I'm thinking stuff like: -basic envelope generators -basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, triangle, sawtooth -basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies -basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a la fluidsynth) -basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to assign a parameter) -basic step, piano roll, c sequencers -basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~) -basic modular counters -an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions of objects using SSAD -video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up PixelTango. Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200 times which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS! Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to be more pick up and go audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean whereas the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return! This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl, and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another thing about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items one at a time. RTS fears again!) So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it. ~Kyle On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point, you just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in, we'll choose projects and who will mentor them. Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not student anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students. Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys? add your names, hurry! :) yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for me to take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c
Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
How about this project:
Beginners Building Blocks.
Right now, If I want to even make a simple sine oscillator synth with an
ADSR envelope on it, it's not very easy to do out of the box. What if there
were some entry-level abstractions in a very OBVIOUS location that people
could instantly piece together some classic Unit Generators. Important for
these would be the ability to copy/paste items from a main page of
abstractions. Also, they should have a simple GUI interface, and possibly be
set up automatically to use SSAD.
I'm thinking stuff like:
-basic envelope generators
-basic oscillators (bandlimited ones would be nice): sine, square, triangle,
sawtooth
-basic i/o that is more intuitive to newbies
-basic sample players (one shot, looping, pitch shifting, multi-sample a la
fluidsynth)
-basic MIDI controller mapping tools (so people could just twist a knob to
assign a parameter)
-basic step, piano roll, c sequencers
-basic pitch/rhythm analysis (wrappers for sigmund~, fiddle~, and bonk~)
-basic modular counters
-an extensive collection of examples using these objects, documenting
parameters, as well as ways to connect and/or modify and save new versions
of objects using SSAD
-video stuff would also be great, something akin to a freshened up
PixelTango.
Anyway, I just thought these things would be really nice to have in an
accessible place in Pd-extended. Because right now whenever I just want to
make something very simple, i end up having to click a mouse about 200 times
which is annoying and makes me worried about RTS!
Pd and Pd-extended are so difficult to navigate for newbies. There need to
be more pick up and go audio tools. I'm thinking of how Reaktor and
Max/MSP are so easy to dive into. Pd is a lot like a cold cold ocean whereas
the other two are nice warm swimming pools. Pd is deeper and more exciting
by far, but you can get swept away in an undertow never to return!
This project could be accomplished by merging elements from NetPd, Pdmtl,
and various slick patches made by the resident list geniuses. (Another thing
about NetPd if Roman and Eni are listening: can you make a tar.gz or zip
download of ALL current NetPd patches? I hate having to download 30+ items
one at a time. RTS fears again!)
So there's my way more than 2 cents. Take what you will from it.
~Kyle
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote:
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Sat, 2009-03-07 at 11:26 +0100, Enrique Erne wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The Google Summer of Code ((http://code.google.com/soc/) application
is due very soon, March 9th, and we need mentors! At this point,
you
just need to put down your name. Then once the projects are in,
we'll
choose projects and who will mentor them.
Every pd developer who wants to support the project but is not
student
anymore is invited to join as mentor, since the number of sponsored
projects by google depends on the number of mentors and students.
Andy, Claude, Frank, Marius, Mathieu, Roman where are you guys?
add your names, hurry! :)
yo, i am happy to add my name, but i guess it only makes sense for
me to
take a mentorship of a project, that is about patching and not c
coding.
from what i have seen, there is only one project - undead - which
seems
to be about patching. derek holzer is already proposed as a mentor.
does
it make sense to propose more then one mentor for a project?
You could also create a new project based on something like creating
libraries out of all that useful code in netpd. Basically, think of
something that you would like implemented in Pd that you could mentor.
.hc
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Re: [PD] GSoC web project idea
What would really be tops is if this could somehow automatically do a screen
grab of the path so you could see a screenshot before downloading.
Neat Idea. Right now I just keep all these tidbits in a /pd-list dir on my
comp.
~Kyle
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote:
I've had an idea for a long time for a web interface to the patches
that people post to the pd-list. Basically, lots of really great code
is posted to the Pd list, but it is not very easy to find it there.
What if there was a searchable database of all patches posted to the
pd list. You could search by object name to see all patches that use
a certain object, then download it.
I think that someone who was a decent web programmer could do this.
Perhaps using something like Lucene, or really whatever. Is it worth
a summer of code project?
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Re: [PD] Call for GSoC mentors! March 9th deadline!
True that! I would be way more useful writing documentation than code. If
there was an opportunity like GSoC for that, I'd jump on it.
~Kyle
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:04 AM, chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote:
I already asked, and GSoC doesn't cover documentation, or else I would
have pitched the Pd FLOSS Manual in there as well. But go for it with the
GLSL/framebuffer coding stuff!
That is really a shame since most open source projects need way more
documentation done than coding. Maybe they will have a Winter of Docs?
chris clepper wrote:
My own suggestion for a GEM project would be to create a tutorial and
accompanying manual that covers the basic operation. The other idea
involves making the more advanced features like GLSL and framebuffer
rendering easier to use. These are mainly documentation projects, but also
have some Pd, and possible C++ coding as well.
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Re: [PD] call for help: help patch fixing
Hans~
I am interested in finding ways to help. What would be required?
I imagine something like:
1. getting an automatic email after the nightly tests.
2. Logging into the svn or whatever your versioning system is (would have to
be trained on this part).
3. Downloading the said help patches.
4. Testing said help patches on local machine.
5. If fix is found, upload new file to svn and add relevant comments to
versioning system (training again) .
If you could come up with a very straightforward, idiot-proof checklist of
actions, I could likely offer an hour or two a week on this task. My only
machine right now is running OS X 10.5.6, so that's the scope of my
usefulness to the project.
~Kyle
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote:
Hey all,
A while back, I wrote some scripts that can automatically load every
help patch and load every objectclass. I would like to set these up
to run every night, but I don't think I'll be able to keep up with the
output from this, i.e. fixing the help patches that crash and at the
same manage getting this Pd-extended 0.41 release finished. So I want
to see if there is anyone willing to handle this whole process.
I think it will make Pd much more reliable if we can track down the
little errors in help patches that can cause crashes. As far as I am
concerned it can be managed how ever anyone wants to do it. I have
these basic scripts ready to go, but they could easily be replaced
with something else, if anyone else wants to do that.
I think this could then be expanded into a broader testing framework.
.hc
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Oh and one more thing. You need to turn on the polling by clicking the green
toggle box. Otherwise hid will not poll your device of choice.
~Kyle
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, hid provides very comprehensive documentation and debugging tools that
you can use for this.
Open the hid help patch (you can find this easily by creating an [hid]
object in a blank canvas and then right clicking (ctrl+click on mac) and
selecting help. This patch will be very useful to probe the data sent from
various devices.
Next, click on the message box labeled [print( and look at the output in
the Pd console. You will see a device list that numbers each device starting
at 0 and also gives a brief description of the device.
After you find your device of choice, click on the radio button
corresponding to it's number, or if you prefer send a message [open n( where
n is the device number that was printed in the console.
Now that your device is loaded by hid, try giving it some input and
observing the various number boxes and toggles to get a feel for the range
and style of output that your device offers.
I hope this helps! Happy hacking.
~Kyle
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote:
You might be able to get that info using [hid].
.hc
On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Andrew Martin wrote:
Hey there. Not sure where or who to direct this to, but I recently watched
a video tutorial on youtube on how to modify your laptop's trackpad into a
MIDI-control device much like a Korg Kaossilator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWE2ptQtYk0. Apparently the creator of
this video created a patch to create this device, but the according to him
it only works with Synaptics track pads. I'm running a newer aluminum
macbook with a MultiTouch track pad, and was wondering if anyone has figured
out a way to get absolute positioning information, and possibly multi-touch
info as well, into Pd to Midi notes in appropriate scales. Any kind of help
would be appreciated, as I'm trying to get my music rig set up to be
super-fly.
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Yes, hid provides very comprehensive documentation and debugging tools that
you can use for this.
Open the hid help patch (you can find this easily by creating an [hid]
object in a blank canvas and then right clicking (ctrl+click on mac) and
selecting help. This patch will be very useful to probe the data sent from
various devices.
Next, click on the message box labeled [print( and look at the output in the
Pd console. You will see a device list that numbers each device starting at
0 and also gives a brief description of the device.
After you find your device of choice, click on the radio button
corresponding to it's number, or if you prefer send a message [open n( where
n is the device number that was printed in the console.
Now that your device is loaded by hid, try giving it some input and
observing the various number boxes and toggles to get a feel for the range
and style of output that your device offers.
I hope this helps! Happy hacking.
~Kyle
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote:
You might be able to get that info using [hid].
.hc
On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Andrew Martin wrote:
Hey there. Not sure where or who to direct this to, but I recently watched
a video tutorial on youtube on how to modify your laptop's trackpad into a
MIDI-control device much like a Korg Kaossilator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWE2ptQtYk0. Apparently the creator of this
video created a patch to create this device, but the according to him it
only works with Synaptics track pads. I'm running a newer aluminum macbook
with a MultiTouch track pad, and was wondering if anyone has figured out a
way to get absolute positioning information, and possibly multi-touch info
as well, into Pd to Midi notes in appropriate scales. Any kind of help would
be appreciated, as I'm trying to get my music rig set up to be super-fly.
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Re: [PD] [k.s.matheus...@notam02.no: [LAD] [ANN] Das_Watchdog V0.9.0]
But then how can we send each other practical joke patches?
~Kyle
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hi,
something for all lovers of
[bang(
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[until]
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Subject: [LAD] [ANN] Das_Watchdog V0.9.0
ABOUT
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Das_Watchdog is a general watchdog for the linux operating system that
should run in the background at all times to ensure a realtime process
won't hang the machine.
DOWNLOAD
http://archive.notam02.no/arkiv/src/?C=M;O=D
http://folk.uio.no/ksvalast/arkiv/src/?C=M;O=D
CHANGES 0.3.1 - 0.9.0:
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* Removed timer process testing. This was only a problem with older 2.6
kernels. (think it was fixed early 2006 or thereabout). No scary
messages printed to the screen anymore.
* Tested on Fedora core 10.
* Cleaned up documentation a bit and added instructions for installing on
Fedora, Gentoo and Debian.
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Re: [PD] String Port
Beautiful objects!!!
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:38 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hi,
look at this: http://www.keithmcmillen.com/stringport/index.html It's
Miller's pd~conv Montreal paper in hardware. Congratulation!
Actually I found this URL in a comment of bonk~.c when trying to make
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Re: [PD] multiple undo ctrl-z
Yeah that would be nice to have a little history inspector in Pd that would
label each task by name and allow you to click to it directly rather than
cycling through.
~Kyle
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote:
One thing I like about Emacs a lot is that it remembers the undo/redo
states across saves. I think that saving should not wipe out the undo
possibilities. Didn't Photoshop go back to single undo? I think they
replaced multiple undo with a sort of editable history log. I think that
would be even better than multiple undo.
.hc
On Jan 31, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
I know that the Ableton programmers have joked about the challenges of
designing their endless undo system. I am guessing that it relies upon
keeping track of every change between state saves, since they also have a
nifty feature that will rescue unsaved changes if the system crashes for
some reason. This is stored in a temporary file location specified in the
preferences menu of the program.
So basically the multiple undo system would have to keep a running log in
some temporary file, documenting each state change in the software. Beyond
me, but I agree that this feature is much-desired!
~Kyle
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Enrique Erne wrote:
there has been many good ideas about usability features, so here come my
most beloved ones: multiple undo be a great improvement. would that be
difficult?
When I originally harassed Miller so that he implements undo, I thought
he'd go for multiple undo. Instead, he went for single. Basically there's
not much more you have to do to get multiple undo if the single undo was
done right, but that means if the single undo has been implemented with a
future multiple undo in mind. The undo-system is one of the rare parts of
pd source-code that I haven't read, because I wanted to reimplement it from
scratch anyway. So I can't really tell you right away whether Miller's
system could be adapted or not.
My own multiple-undo code doesn't really work well, but that's not because
it's multiple, it's because it's implemented in the client instead, and
there were too many things that had to be changed in the server to get that
working, and I have other excuses as well ;)
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Re: [PD] multiple undo ctrl-z
I know that the Ableton programmers have joked about the challenges of
designing their endless undo system. I am guessing that it relies upon
keeping track of every change between state saves, since they also have a
nifty feature that will rescue unsaved changes if the system crashes for
some reason. This is stored in a temporary file location specified in the
preferences menu of the program.
So basically the multiple undo system would have to keep a running log in
some temporary file, documenting each state change in the software. Beyond
me, but I agree that this feature is much-desired!
~Kyle
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sat, 31 Jan 2009, Enrique Erne wrote:
there has been many good ideas about usability features, so here come my
most beloved ones: multiple undo be a great improvement. would that be
difficult?
When I originally harassed Miller so that he implements undo, I thought
he'd go for multiple undo. Instead, he went for single. Basically there's
not much more you have to do to get multiple undo if the single undo was
done right, but that means if the single undo has been implemented with a
future multiple undo in mind. The undo-system is one of the rare parts of
pd source-code that I haven't read, because I wanted to reimplement it from
scratch anyway. So I can't really tell you right away whether Miller's
system could be adapted or not.
My own multiple-undo code doesn't really work well, but that's not because
it's multiple, it's because it's implemented in the client instead, and
there were too many things that had to be changed in the server to get that
working, and I have other excuses as well ;)
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Re: [PD] seq24 + pd
Neat! Thanks for sharing your methodology and software. I hope it gets
accepted.
~Kyle
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 8:16 AM, danomatika danomat...@gmail.com wrote:
In regards to the whole Ableton vs/compared to Ardour+pd+etc, I find I like
using seq24 to do sequencing
outside of pd and pd to make all audio. It is simple and does the job
without getting in my way and trying to
do too much for me.
A few weeks ago I added midi song export to seq4 as a branch on
Launchpadhttps://code.launchpad.net/%7Edanomatika/seq24/midi-export.
Now I can make a song in
seq24 and then load and play it in pd using the mrpeach midifile object.
Anyone else using seq24+pd may find this ability useful. Please message
the seq24 devs on Launchpad to
get them to test and merge my changes to the main branch so it will go into
the next version of Ubuntu.
(that would be nice)
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Re: [PD] max for live
Hans~
I have not tried Ardour+Jack+Pd+soft synths yet. I tried downloading Ardour
one time to show my 7th grade math/audio tech student. However, it was with
my G4 PowerBook running OSX 10.4 and was very shaky. He does like me showing
him Ableton though, and even a bit of Pd!
I'll give Ardour+Jack+Pd+soft synths (thanks copy/paste) a shot now that I
have a newer-ish refurbished MacBook with OSX 10.5 on it. I'll probably end
up tossing a Linux distro on here too, so we'll see.
I finally got a decent synch between Live and Pd using Live's external
instrument/effects devices. I used SoundFlower and Apple's IAC MIDI bus, and
the test was with Andy's trumpet patch and fibonnacci reverb. It got me
excited about the possibilities. I'm going to try using Jack again also.
It's exciting to try these options. I don't want people to think I'm a
hater!
~Kyle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote:
How much have you used Ardour+Jack+Pd+soft synths? It is structured very
differently that Ableton Live, but I think that is actually quite
competitive in terms of what you can do with it. It is a different system
that requires as much learning as Live does.
You have been able to run Pd patches in tight sync with Ardour and a
multitude of soft synths for years now. You just don't have nifty little
embeddedness. So this really seems to me more a classic example of the core
innovation happening in free software, then proprietary software taking the
ideas and packaging them really nicely, and promoting them a lot. (I am not
saying this is a bad thing).
The iPhone is the classic version of that. The App Store is nice, you've
been able to do that on Linux-based devices since the late nineties, but
mostly with a command line interface.
.hc
On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:27 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Live is not garbage. Incremental improvement != planned obsolescence.
Making software for a business is not a sin. You get what you pay for.
Open source is great. I appreciate everything that Pd and it's users stand
for. However, trolling about a DAW when the free alternatives are 5 years
back in the dust in terms of optimization, ease of use, and plain
crash-resistance is just silly.
Some people prefer to make music, not software. Some people prefer to make
software, not music. Some people prefer to make software AND music. Some
people make great music software but horrible music. Some people make great
music but crummy software.
~Kyle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:57 AM, day five day5...@gmail.com wrote:
Live is garbage and so is their planned obsolescence business model...
what are they at version 56 by now?
Now if they could embed jMax as a VST _then_ I'd be impressed.
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Live is not garbage. Incremental improvement != planned obsolescence. Making
software for a business is not a sin. You get what you pay for.
Open source is great. I appreciate everything that Pd and it's users stand
for. However, trolling about a DAW when the free alternatives are 5 years
back in the dust in terms of optimization, ease of use, and plain
crash-resistance is just silly.
Some people prefer to make music, not software. Some people prefer to make
software, not music. Some people prefer to make software AND music. Some
people make great music software but horrible music. Some people make great
music but crummy software.
~Kyle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:57 AM, day five day5...@gmail.com wrote:
Live is garbage and so is their planned obsolescence business model...
what are they at version 56 by now?
Now if they could embed jMax as a VST _then_ I'd be impressed.
./d5
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Re: [PD] max for live
Of course! I forgot to mention that combination. There are a lot of
wonderfully talented musician/programmers who equally amaze me with their
programming and performing skills.
I didn't mean to make it seem otherwise!
~Kyle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, xà freequenc...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/1/29 Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com:
Live is not garbage. Incremental improvement != planned obsolescence.
Making
software for a business is not a sin. You get what you pay for.
Open source is great. I appreciate everything that Pd and it's users
stand
for. However, trolling about a DAW when the free alternatives are 5 years
back in the dust in terms of optimization, ease of use, and plain
crash-resistance is just silly.
Some people prefer to make music, not software. Some people prefer to
make
software, not music. Some people prefer to make software AND music. Some
people make great music software but horrible music. Some people make
great
music but crummy software.
and maybe some people make great music with great software...do you
guys???
salut
xà!
~Kyle
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 2:57 AM, day five day5...@gmail.com wrote:
Live is garbage and so is their planned obsolescence business model...
what are they at version 56 by now?
Now if they could embed jMax as a VST _then_ I'd be impressed.
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Re: [PD] pink noise
Frank~
This is awesome! I love the notes and the comparison toggle as well.
Well done.
~Kyle
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
attached is some pink noise, one implementation to my knowledge is
new.
Did you see the stupid error I made? Anyway now the fixed version.
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Re: [PD] max for live
That's the elephant in the room isn't it?
Live is most valuable to me because it is very cpu-friendly considering the
amount of tasks being done at once in such a rich visual environment. Pd on
the other hand is very slow...the equivalent of maybe 2 or 3 live devices
will shoot my cpu up to 75% easily.
Of course, this is because Live devices are optimized in C++. Also, the GUI
is rendered by graphing bitmap primitives onto the screen...I'm pretty sure
that Pd does something different/more cpu intensive using tcl/tk.
I'm all for the effort though! I just think that Pd will need some major
face lifts to get it to the usability that Live offers.
~Kyle
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:57 AM, hard off hard@gmail.com wrote:
would widgets and whatnots be subject to the same clunky slowness of other
pd gui objects? or is this something that might be improved too?
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Re: [PD] max for live
Yep, I tried suggesting Pd/Live integration a year or two back on the
Ableton wishlist forum. Looks like there are more Max users out there...
Also, working with a company is probably easier and more reliable than a
loose collective in terms of implementing business objectives.
I'm curious about Max for Live, and also how much it will cost. I do adore
Live and use it daily.
~Kyle
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Andrew Turley atur...@acm.org wrote:
I think the nicest thing about the Live/Max integration is that you
can distribute patches without have to tell people to install all
kinds of other software. Removing a few steps drastically lowers the
threshold for getting people to try it.
andy
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Alex x37v.a...@gmail.com wrote:
As Live is proprietary software, and they have already embedded Max, I
don't see how PD could get into it... though PD can be used in
parallel to Live, sending midi [and I assume audio?.. using Jack or
soundflower or something?]
PD can also be used as a vst [though I've never done it, being a Linux
only user, and preferring to work directly in PD]:
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/http://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Ejsarlo/pdvst/
Besides the inline editing [inside Live], I haven't thought of a real
example that cannot be done with PD along-side of Live.. though, it is
not as slick..
-Alex
On 1/16/09, harris_pil...@gmx.de harris_pil...@gmx.de wrote:
hi guys,
i was just wondering why you guys dont do this max for live thing that
was announced? i guess there will be no way that pd will be
implemented in live like that? but maybe someone in the list has ideas
to work around that?
for the ones who dont know what i'm talking about; it's pretty much
this: ableton.com/extend
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Re: [PD] Pd, Arduino, and Multiple LED's == Installation?
Thanks so much everyone for your prompt replies!
This is going to be a quick job, the opening is the 2nd Friday of February.
It's a group project and many in the group are hesitant to use LED's. The
requirement is to have it be task lighting but also low-light. The gallery
is not huge, I'd say about 1000-1500 square feet.
Could this be accomplished with LED's? How many should I use. Also, are
there any other ways of doing this, using lighting other than LED?
Thanks so much for your replies, I'm a newbie at lighting-design so I'm a
bit nervous about coming through with an elegant solution for this project!
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[PD] Pd, Arduino, and Multiple LED's == Installation?
Hello Listers~
I'm working on an art gallery installation and I want to use Pd to control
some high-powered LED's via an Arduino unit.
The breakdown is this: I need to create a series of RGB LED's that will
provide accent illumination to the gallery space, and shifts from red to
blue over a course of 6 weeks. The program isn't very difficult to write.
I've already decided to link it to the system date/time so that the
installation can be powered down easily at night. What's tricky is knowing
what hardware to use and how to get it together. I am going to want between
25-100 lights at minimum, possibly more.
I've looked at a few sites and links already, especially the Arduino site.
They have some things related to DMX lights, and this is something I've seen
a bit on the list as well. I don't know if this is a good solution or if it
is overkill for what I want to do.
One piece of hardware that seems promising is the ShiftBrite (
http://www.macetech.com/blog/node/54). Does anyone know about this?
I know this might be considered off-topic, but I'd really appreciate it if
any seasoned veterans could throw me some tips. I'll be exploring other
areas, but I know there are some honed brains skimming these emails so maybe
they can drop some science on me.
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)
I could still meet informally on the 18th.
I'd also like to recommend a meet up location different than a bar, at least
for future meetings.
Rumble Arts Center, in Humbolt Park, offers affordable meeting space. I
spoke with the person in charge and she said she usually they charge $50 to
rent a meeting space, but that it was negotiable. They offer a lot of
community-based classes, so maybe even some sort of Pd workshop could become
part of their offerings, and we could get in on that.
I'm going to set up a more formal time to talk with her, so if I could get a
vague notion of how many people we could get in February as well as a more
concrete date and time, I could hammer something out.
~Kyle
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Jacob Lee artd...@gmail.com wrote:
Why don't we meet informally on the 18th? We could just demonstrate
patches and whatnot and save a more formal show for February. I, too,
have less to show by now than I had hoped, but I'd still like to get
together and see what else people are doing in PD.
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On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, my vote would be for February, as the stuff I have been working
on is kind of slow going... plus it just seems that the 18th is a bit
closer than I had anticipated. Maybe we should set a date NOW in
February, and then make plans for that...
But, if others would still like to shoot for the 18th, I don't think
it would be a problem to hold it at the Red Line Tap. It would have to
be before 6PM, as they have been scheduling bands on Sunday nights,
and they usually start setting up around 8 or so...
Mike
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hey Chi-town Pd-ers~
This may be a little late, but I can do the 18th of January.
Is this going to happen still, or should we push it back to February to
get
a little promotion time?
Let's decide soon.
~Kyle
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com
wrote:
Well, any suggestions would be welcome. While I am not quite certain,
I am pretty sure that we can still meet at the Red Line Tap, they just
want to get a few more bodies in to buy a beer or two for the time we
are there...
The 18th is the third sunday... does that sound like a good day?
Anyone have another date in mind?
Mike
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com
wrote:
So...Any word on a mid-January date for the Pd meetup in Chicago yet?
~Kyle
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, the safe money is on that... no meeting tonight...
Our latest plan is to shoot for mid January...
Mike
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theonlyconstantisf...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
Hope this message finds you all happy and well.
Is it safe to assume that we're NOT meeting at the Red Line Tap
this
evening?
Thanks,
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)
Hey Chi-town Pd-ers~
This may be a little late, but I can do the 18th of January.
Is this going to happen still, or should we push it back to February to get
a little promotion time?
Let's decide soon.
~Kyle
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, any suggestions would be welcome. While I am not quite certain,
I am pretty sure that we can still meet at the Red Line Tap, they just
want to get a few more bodies in to buy a beer or two for the time we
are there...
The 18th is the third sunday... does that sound like a good day?
Anyone have another date in mind?
Mike
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com
wrote:
So...Any word on a mid-January date for the Pd meetup in Chicago yet?
~Kyle
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Mike McGonagle mjm...@gmail.com
wrote:
Yes, the safe money is on that... no meeting tonight...
Our latest plan is to shoot for mid January...
Mike
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theonlyconstantisf...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey all,
Hope this message finds you all happy and well.
Is it safe to assume that we're NOT meeting at the Red Line Tap this
evening?
Thanks,
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Re: [PD] Nice distortion
Yes, Operator is a 4-op FM synth, with added bonuses of a variety of
different bandlimited saw and square waveforms as well as bitrate-reduced
sines, noise, and triangle waves.
The genius is in the interface. I've played with a lot of FM synths and
Operator is so quick and dirty to dive into that I'm hard pressed to use
anything else. Plus the envelope generators are very tactile and fun to play
with. I did try to make a Pd clone of it a few years ago but ended up
purchasing the license instead (worth it).
Unfortunately it would most likely be difficult to recreate the fluidity of
the interface in Pd, since it is coded and compiled in C++ and has very
efficient GUI rendering.
~Kyle
On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hallo,
hard off hat gesagt: // hard off wrote:
most of the stuff that operator synth does looks fairly straight-forward,
shouldn't be too hard to put together a basic pd clone.
I had a quick look at the Live manual, where I found, that Operator is
just a 4-op FM synth with some additional tweaks. A simple 4-op FM is on
my January TODO list for the RjDj library anyway. In general FM is
easy, but the more operators you have, the more you want to use
[mtx_mul~] from Iemmatrix, but RjDj only has vanilla objects.
challenging bits will be the square and saw waves with variable numbers
of
partials, but i think that will probably just be a case of [tabosc4~] and
making some tables with sinesum values.
Or some summation formulas, but tabosc4~ is easier.
then that knob to alter the amount of aliasing, it could be using
upsampling
and then lowpass filtering like the nord synths do, or like the 'classic
synth' example in pd's audio documentation. but that approach quickly
eats
up cpuor else it could be using an adjustable bandlimiter, something
like the [blosc~ comparator] external, but with adjustability. actually,
this function is the hardest one for me to think of a solution for.
Yep, aliasing in FM always is tricky. It will be ignored for RjDj. ;(
the filters shouldn't be TOO hard, although to get a good lowpass, notch,
bandpass and highpass it might be best to dig through pd-extended's
externals. for lowpass i usually use [resofilt~] bandpass vanilla's
[vcf~]
is fine, although franks new resonz~ / resonr~ filters look super
promising. for highpass, i prefer [svf~ high]. not sure about the notch
filter.
I'm a bit proud of resonz~ and resonr~: In the end they look very
simple, the hard part was digging J.O. Smith's Filter book. ;) I'll also
do some version with signal inlets later.
If anyone knows which transfer function would make a good 2 pole resonant
lowpass filter (like lp2~ in Iemlib) I'd be super thankful.
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Re: [PD] Nice distortion
Really awesome Frank!
I like how you've been touring the Ableton toolkit for Pd-inspiration. They
were pretty much prototyped in Max anyway, so it's definitely doable by keen
minds such as yours.
I can't wait for your version of Operator!!!
~Kyle
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org wrote:
Hallo,
Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
Yes, that's true. It's similar to the Erosion effect in Ableton Live,
but with a delay length of one sample and the lowpass filtered input
signal as modulator.
Ah, I checked again and that's not quite correct: Erosion modulates
the delay *length*, not the feedback/feedforward coefficients like
apdist~ does.
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[PD] Andy's Book (was: pd 0.42-0 test 08 released)
Holy cow this is amazing!
I wish I'd found out about it before Christmas, it would have been a perfect
gift.
Way to go, Andy!
~Kyle
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:49 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote:
pow~, log~, exp~, abs~ - thankyou, thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! ;)
Rock n' roll! Andy will be pleased. :D
Incidentally, if you haven't had a chance to check out his book then do
so. It's very awesome:
http://aspress.co.uk/ds/
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Re: [PD] trying to figure out limiter~ (zexy)
Sweet info. Nice to learn a tad more on how limiters work on the back end.
~Kyle
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:04 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote:
Thomas Mayer wrote:
Hi,
| \
[limiter~] [z~ 64]
| /
and for those who are wondering: the [z~ 64] is there to compensate for the
delay that is built into [limiter~].
[limiter~] does a bit of upsampling which requires a delay, so the
gain-signal is a bit late.
the precise amount is 9 samples (iirc), but might as well be dynamic
(depending on the buffer-size you give). 64 samples is just a bit longer
so clicks should be masked by psychoacoustic effects.
fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] nearest power of 2
This is neat. Please share your continued research in this territory. Also,
has anyone made a beat slicer that chops up a sound file based on
transients?
~Kyle
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, hard off hard@gmail.com wrote:
may as well post the patch i guess. actually it just gets the NEXT power
of 2, not the nearest, but that is fine for my purpose - which is to decide
how many slices to make in a sound file to cut it into individual beats.
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)
I think we should make it all dependent on people planning on going. Anyone interested in still meeting at Red Line Tap on Sunday, December 14th, at 5pm, please say so. If we don't get at least 5 responses, I motion to table the meeting for a later date. ~Kyle On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 6:21 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I say go ahead and do it, I will have to check with the RedLine about you guys doing it there, but there concern is only in bringing in a few more customers during the slow hours. It sounded like you wouldn't really need the whole sound system, just a good set of desktop speakers. Let me know, and I will let them know to expect you. Mike On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yikes! So what should we do? Is the time still available, and you are just unable to make it? Or will we have to reschedule/find a new venue? I know of a location that might possibly work for a meeting, but will have to network a bit to get it going. it's called the Rumble Arts Center, in Humbolt Park. http://www.rumblearts.com/ I'll put out some feelers about it. Sorry Mike that things aren't going well. ~Kyle On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, after getting some more bad news today, I have to tell you all that I am unable to handle this event now. I apologize for this, but this was something completely out of my control. Mike On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to interject... take pictures and post them! I forgot to do it at the last NYC Patching Circle... Doh! There was a good turn out 15-20 people. .hc On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I think an informal round table about what our usages of Pd are would be a good start. It would be nice to have some various examples. I'm sure we all do things different ways, so I expect to learn a lot just by seeing someone's project and being able to pepper them with questions/try it out/be humbly amazed. ~Kyle On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess my point was not so much an emphasis on a HUMAN type of performance, I would be very interested in hearing the types of things you do for these installations... I guess that is why I really don't know what to expect, but I would find it very dry if all we did was talk about code. Pd is just an means to an end, in my view, and the results are the final product, not the code to get those final results... Not to say that I don't want to hear about the code... Guess that is why I am not really sure what this would entail. Mike On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I dunno. I am not so much a performer w/ Pd as a user of it for installation type events. I could bring along my multi-sensor rig that I used for a few projects recently, and talk about that. I'm no sage so I can't be too showy... ~Kyle On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I am open to anything, but I am interested to see what the final products that people are creating, or even just works in progress. It is one thing to just look at the software, but I think that the whole point of using the software is to create something that is MORE than just the software? I mean, it would be cool to do both? The first part would be a kind of mini performance, followed by a QA thing... and then I guess from there there could be more exchanges about the software... I mean, what is the point of these Patching Circles? Is it only about the software? Or what we are doing WITH the software? I know, it is one of those double edged swords... as both aspects are interesting, or else we wouldn't be working with it. You all know my idea from the above, so I am completely open to any suggestions for the format. Also, to remind people, if you would like to hook things up to a sound system, they have aboard that we could hook up several computers to at the same time, I have not looked at the specifics of the sound system, but I can get that info and pass it on... Mike On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Jacob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still interested :-). Question about the format, though: Is this going to be more learning-oriented or more performance-oriented? That is, are we planning to sit around a table, show patches, ask for help, etc., or should I be prepared to rock out for 10 minutes or so? Either one is cool, I just need to figure out how best to spend the next two weeks
Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)
Yikes! So what should we do? Is the time still available, and you are just unable to make it? Or will we have to reschedule/find a new venue? I know of a location that might possibly work for a meeting, but will have to network a bit to get it going. it's called the Rumble Arts Center, in Humbolt Park. http://www.rumblearts.com/ I'll put out some feelers about it. Sorry Mike that things aren't going well. ~Kyle On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, after getting some more bad news today, I have to tell you all that I am unable to handle this event now. I apologize for this, but this was something completely out of my control. Mike On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to interject... take pictures and post them! I forgot to do it at the last NYC Patching Circle... Doh! There was a good turn out 15-20 people. .hc On Dec 3, 2008, at 6:24 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I think an informal round table about what our usages of Pd are would be a good start. It would be nice to have some various examples. I'm sure we all do things different ways, so I expect to learn a lot just by seeing someone's project and being able to pepper them with questions/try it out/be humbly amazed. ~Kyle On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I guess my point was not so much an emphasis on a HUMAN type of performance, I would be very interested in hearing the types of things you do for these installations... I guess that is why I really don't know what to expect, but I would find it very dry if all we did was talk about code. Pd is just an means to an end, in my view, and the results are the final product, not the code to get those final results... Not to say that I don't want to hear about the code... Guess that is why I am not really sure what this would entail. Mike On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I dunno. I am not so much a performer w/ Pd as a user of it for installation type events. I could bring along my multi-sensor rig that I used for a few projects recently, and talk about that. I'm no sage so I can't be too showy... ~Kyle On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I am open to anything, but I am interested to see what the final products that people are creating, or even just works in progress. It is one thing to just look at the software, but I think that the whole point of using the software is to create something that is MORE than just the software? I mean, it would be cool to do both? The first part would be a kind of mini performance, followed by a QA thing... and then I guess from there there could be more exchanges about the software... I mean, what is the point of these Patching Circles? Is it only about the software? Or what we are doing WITH the software? I know, it is one of those double edged swords... as both aspects are interesting, or else we wouldn't be working with it. You all know my idea from the above, so I am completely open to any suggestions for the format. Also, to remind people, if you would like to hook things up to a sound system, they have aboard that we could hook up several computers to at the same time, I have not looked at the specifics of the sound system, but I can get that info and pass it on... Mike On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Jacob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still interested :-). Question about the format, though: Is this going to be more learning-oriented or more performance-oriented? That is, are we planning to sit around a table, show patches, ask for help, etc., or should I be prepared to rock out for 10 minutes or so? Either one is cool, I just need to figure out how best to spend the next two weeks. Thanks, -- Jacob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Just a reminder about the patching session. Basically, we are on for Sunday, December 14th, at 5pm. The location is: Red Line Tap 7006 N Glenwood Chicago, IL If you are going via the EL, go to the Morse Stop, and exit to the north end of the platform. From there, go northwest on Glenwood, the Red Line Tap is the first door from the corner. If you are driving, there is a parking lot to the north, 2 block. It is a shared lot with the Trilogy center, at Estes and Glenwood. If you need a map, you can try google maps. If everyone who is interested in showing the work they have in progress could email me, I would like to put together a small list of all the participants. Thanks
Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)
I think an informal round table about what our usages of Pd are would be a
good start. It would be nice to have some various examples. I'm sure we all
do things different ways, so I expect to learn a lot just by seeing
someone's project and being able to pepper them with questions/try it out/be
humbly amazed.
~Kyle
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I guess my point was not so much an emphasis on a HUMAN type
of performance, I would be very interested in hearing the types of
things you do for these installations... I guess that is why I really
don't know what to expect, but I would find it very dry if all we did
was talk about code. Pd is just an means to an end, in my view, and
the results are the final product, not the code to get those final
results... Not to say that I don't want to hear about the code...
Guess that is why I am not really sure what this would entail.
Mike
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:27 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yeah I dunno. I am not so much a performer w/ Pd as a user of it for
installation type events. I could bring along my multi-sensor rig that I
used for a few projects recently, and talk about that. I'm no sage so I
can't be too showy...
~Kyle
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I am open to anything, but I am interested to see what the final
products that people are creating, or even just works in progress. It
is one thing to just look at the software, but I think that the whole
point of using the software is to create something that is MORE than
just the software?
I mean, it would be cool to do both? The first part would be a kind of
mini performance, followed by a QA thing... and then I guess from
there there could be more exchanges about the software...
I mean, what is the point of these Patching Circles? Is it only about
the software? Or what we are doing WITH the software? I know, it is
one of those double edged swords... as both aspects are interesting,
or else we wouldn't be working with it.
You all know my idea from the above, so I am completely open to any
suggestions for the format.
Also, to remind people, if you would like to hook things up to a sound
system, they have aboard that we could hook up several computers to at
the same time, I have not looked at the specifics of the sound system,
but I can get that info and pass it on...
Mike
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Jacob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm still interested :-). Question about the format, though: Is this
going to be more learning-oriented or more performance-oriented? That
is, are we planning to sit around a table, show patches, ask for help,
etc., or should I be prepared to rock out for 10 minutes or so? Either
one is cool, I just need to figure out how best to spend the next two
weeks.
Thanks,
--
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On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello all,
Just a reminder about the patching session. Basically, we are on for
Sunday, December 14th, at 5pm. The location is:
Red Line Tap
7006 N Glenwood
Chicago, IL
If you are going via the EL, go to the Morse Stop, and exit to the
north end of the platform. From there, go northwest on Glenwood, the
Red Line Tap is the first door from the corner.
If you are driving, there is a parking lot to the north, 2 block. It
is a shared lot with the Trilogy center, at Estes and Glenwood. If
you
need a map, you can try google maps.
If everyone who is interested in showing the work they have in
progress could email me, I would like to put together a small list of
all the participants.
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [PD] Would anybody like a portable version of Pd-extended with pdmtl?
When is pdmtl going to be included in Pd-extended proper?
~Kyle
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That sounds cool and useful. Any interest in getting that working as
a regular build?
.hc
On Dec 2, 2008, at 12:48 PM, Solen Music wrote:
yeah it's a single .exe (sorry forgot to mention it's windows only) it
fakes registry settings when you open it and deletes them when you
close it so that it can be run from a flash drive.
I'll send the link to your email.
2008/12/2 Joe Newlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
By portable, do you mean it can be run from a flash drive? I
would be
interested in checking it out.
JN
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Solen Music
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I have made a portable version of Pd-extended with pdmontreal using
Thinstall.
If anyone wants the link for it please put up their hand!
(or is this sort of distribution of Pd frowned upon?)
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle (Sunday, December 14th)
Yeah I dunno. I am not so much a performer w/ Pd as a user of it for
installation type events. I could bring along my multi-sensor rig that I
used for a few projects recently, and talk about that. I'm no sage so I
can't be too showy...
~Kyle
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I am open to anything, but I am interested to see what the final
products that people are creating, or even just works in progress. It
is one thing to just look at the software, but I think that the whole
point of using the software is to create something that is MORE than
just the software?
I mean, it would be cool to do both? The first part would be a kind of
mini performance, followed by a QA thing... and then I guess from
there there could be more exchanges about the software...
I mean, what is the point of these Patching Circles? Is it only about
the software? Or what we are doing WITH the software? I know, it is
one of those double edged swords... as both aspects are interesting,
or else we wouldn't be working with it.
You all know my idea from the above, so I am completely open to any
suggestions for the format.
Also, to remind people, if you would like to hook things up to a sound
system, they have aboard that we could hook up several computers to at
the same time, I have not looked at the specifics of the sound system,
but I can get that info and pass it on...
Mike
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Jacob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm still interested :-). Question about the format, though: Is this
going to be more learning-oriented or more performance-oriented? That
is, are we planning to sit around a table, show patches, ask for help,
etc., or should I be prepared to rock out for 10 minutes or so? Either
one is cool, I just need to figure out how best to spend the next two
weeks.
Thanks,
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello all,
Just a reminder about the patching session. Basically, we are on for
Sunday, December 14th, at 5pm. The location is:
Red Line Tap
7006 N Glenwood
Chicago, IL
If you are going via the EL, go to the Morse Stop, and exit to the
north end of the platform. From there, go northwest on Glenwood, the
Red Line Tap is the first door from the corner.
If you are driving, there is a parking lot to the north, 2 block. It
is a shared lot with the Trilogy center, at Estes and Glenwood. If you
need a map, you can try google maps.
If everyone who is interested in showing the work they have in
progress could email me, I would like to put together a small list of
all the participants.
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: [PD] emulating an acoustic hi-hat pedal
Someday I hope you make a big ole' physical modeled jazz drum kit, Andy.
Genius!
~Kyle
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Andy Farnell
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Hey Patrick,
It's the everything in-between bit that is hard. A hihat is one
of those instruments that seems really simple, but on deeper analysis
you see it is an amazingly complex and subtle device (which is obvious
when you hear a really good drummer playing). With samples you can get
the usual opening and closing strike sounds, and the cup/clash.
But if you want a really good model you probably need to look at
physical modelling and granular methods.
The two parts can rattle against each other causing new excitations.
Sometimes the top cymbal rotates around the bottom one, creating a
rolling 'clatter'.
The pressure of the pedal pushes them together harder increasing
the frequencies (speeding up the roll - like if you push down
in the middle of a rolling dinner plate) and damping both parts more.
You can hit it on the edge or at any radius from the centre. As a simple
rule the spectral complexity increases as you move outwards, hitting
the bell in the middle produces a purer, shorter tone.
You can use the tip of the stick, or brush, or hit lower down
to get a less elastic impact with more energy transferrence (louder
and noiser).
So for the input vector; for pedal you probably want two continuous
ranges, position and pressure (where they are touching), and for
excitation you probably want two more impact event parameters,
energy (0.5 * mass * velocity^2) and duration (impulse).
You can also model leaving the stick connected, which damps the
vibration at one point and reduces the modes.
A full physical model of two interacting centre supported circular
plates is certainly too expensive. FM methods can give you the
raw spectra to blend according to interaction rules. (In fact -
because the relationship of spectra in both FM and the disc modeal
model both derive from Bessel functions you can get very natural
evolution if you choose the right synth model - complex FM with
multiple modulator sources works extremely well.)
The trick is mapping the control params onto the synthesis params.
As they come together you can tap off a little bit of the lowest
and strongest vibrational mode (lop~ - max~) and use it to
make impulse spikes that amplitude modulate the other plate.
Of course this is a reciprocal relationship (the lower plate
also rattles against the upper one) - so it's ring modulation
of the two maximum excusions to get a 'rattle modulator'.
Moving the lop~ up and bringing the clip down will create the
impression of the plates being forced together.
The other approach is to make a parametric map from samples
into a great big wavetable to use as grains. I have never
tried it but I think that would work well for hi-hat.
a.
On Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:27:23 -0500
patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
would it be possible to patch an acoustic hi-hat pedal complete with
heel-splash sound, closed sound, open sound, and everything in-between.
i am not so sure where to start, i want a sampler-base solution.
adsr, playing with filters, morphing of sounds, using 2 samples or more
(open, middle, close, very close). i would gladly pay a beer for this.
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Re: [PD] [polywavesynth] and [polygrainsynth] bug fix
Very lovely! Your documentation is impeccable. This is truly an great,
full-functioning pair of synths. I will be sure to show it off to my 7th
grade Pd student.
~Kyle
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:53 PM, Phil Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi again,
If you use either of these synthesizers, please grab the latest. The
previous versions moved gain to a global parameter. I should have
known better; this causes glitches in already-sounding notes when
presets change. I had a similar problem last year with [polywavesynth],
but forgot about it.
This is the tradeoff to using [poly] to manage voices; if you want the
ability to change presets cleanly, most parameters (i.e., those stored
to make up the preset) can only be changed on new attacks. I haven't
thought of a way around this conundrum yet.
At any rate, the latest versions fix this issue. Sorry for any
inconvenience.
This leads to the web pages and download links for both synthesizers:
http://www.pkstonemusic.com/pd_code.html
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Re: [PD] Chicago PD Event on Nov 21, 6pm
Nuts. I'm DJ-ing the art walk in Bridgeport tonight. Have fun!
~Kyle
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is not my event, but I was told it is open to the public.
Hey y'all - it's time to organize the next Open-node meeting/PD
workshop. At our last meeting we agreed it would be Nov 21, at 6pm. I
can provide the space at UIC's Design Visualization Lab (DVL) and give
a PD/GEM intro and maybe demo realtime PD/arduino programming (if
there is interest/time). I believe Ben Carney said he could follow up
on his intro to PD sound. I need a sense of how many people would be
coming.
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Re: [PD] Beatrepeat (preview)
Yes, thanks for this Frank! I've tried making a Pd-version of Ableton
Operator, a great FM synth. I ended up just buying theirs though. Heh.
Good work.
~Kyle
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 1:36 AM, hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
cheers frank
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Re: [PD] frey-wubwubwub ACTUALLY FIXED
Thanks for this! I appreciate including the Ableton set as well. It's a fun
way to create a completely different track over the IAC bus.
~Kyle
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Damian Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Damian Stewart wrote:
aaah right.
ummm. not on OSX at the moment so can't fix it. will get back to you on
that in a tick.
attached
i also made it more 'dubsteppy' (slowed down the tempo, made the snare
happen less often).
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle
Yeesh. Sorry to hear about your loss. I was laid off back in 2007 and it
wasn't very fun. I hope that this gives you an opportunity to get into
something new that you will truly love.
Chicago Public Library has computers that you can use to check email and
stuff...
We will plan on going ahead as usual.
~Kyle
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Well that sucks. I am sure there free wifi around Chicago, I am a
regular
user of open wifi nodes, share my own wifi, and encourage others to do
the
same.
Unfortunately, I have never been able to get my laptop to work with
the WIFI. It is one of the last titanium shelled ones, and the reason
they stopped making them is because the metal case shielded the
signal. I am sure that I will be able to find a connection, just not
one every day.
So, please let's proceed with this. The time off will actually help me
to focus on getting some stuff done.
Unfortunately, I'll bet we'll be hearing similar stories from a lot of
people these days.
Yeah, all the stories I have read in the last month or so, is that we
shouldn't expect things to get better UNTIL they get worse. I can't
imagine that any President who comes into a mess like this would be
able to turn things around that quickly.
I am not quite certain, but this might be a blessing in disguise. Over
the past 8 years, I have become fairly political, and as such, have
been focusing on the BAD parts of our government... I submitted an
application today, to hopefully work on at least the transition team,
but it would be nice as well to turn it into a real job. It would be
nice to get out of printing, it is one of the more depressed markets,
but that is largely due to technology and such...
Mike
.hc
On Nov 11, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Mike McGonagle wrote:
Well, sorry about this, but I am not quite certain exactly how I might
stay in contact with everyone, as I just lost my job, and I don't have
a connection at home.
Please, lets try to continue with planning this, as I know that the
space will still be available, but I am not quite certain how soon I
might be able to help in planning.
Mike
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The flyer looks great, Mike!
I think that building slowly is a good idea, just to keep things
manageable.
Looking forward to it!
~Kyle
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ok, last night I just assumed that we are going to shoot for December
14th, and I put together a flyer with all the pertinent information
(short of the names of people being there)...
Let me know if you think this will work for you, or do we need another
date?
Also, as this is the first event, should we open it to a wider
audience? Or should we build slowly?
Mike
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thank you, Chris. This will be very helpful. I have already contacted
two groups who might have similar interests, they are not directly
involved with Pd, but they do have people who I think would want to
see what others are doing.
Mike
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:43 PM, chris clepper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There have been Pd user groups in Chicago in the past. One used to
meet at
Deadtech, but I think Rob Ray is currently at RPI. Before that
there
was a
Max user group that also encompassed Pd and SuperCollider which I
helped
start out many years ago ('98 or so).
You may want to contact the Chicago New Media google group:
http://groups.google.com/group/Chicago-new-media?lnk=srgie=UTF-8oe=utf-8pli=1
Also, look up Drew Browning at UIC and Robb Drinkwater at SAIC who
are
into
such things. Paul Hertz is up at Northwestern, and there might be
someone
at U of Chicago too.
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Re: [PD] nqpoly5, now with full loadbang support!
Nice! I really appreciate this little feature. It helps to see what's going
on WAY better now.
Thanks,
~Kyle
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On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 3:05 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo,
Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Actually, please remove that if you did check it in. That change to
nqpoly4 is not backwards compatible and will likely cause patch
breakage. Make a new objectclass if you want to add that feature.
You're right, it will lead to double loadbangs. I didn't think of this
and will undo it. Thanks for that report.
About the loadbang support, AFAIK, the loadbang technique in polypoly
will not work for abstractions that are used with the patches that
are instantiated using polypoly. This initbang technique means all
levels get proper loadbangs.
All levels get proper loadbangs with the [loadbang(-[s pd-x] technique
already, there's no need for initbang in that case at all.
Also, I forgot to mention, I added a tiny bit of code to my own hacked
nqpoly6 which draws the instances all in a column instead of on top of each
other. That makes it easier to find instances when debugging. If you want
to add it to polypoly, here's my code:
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle
The flyer looks great, Mike!
I think that building slowly is a good idea, just to keep things manageable.
Looking forward to it!
~Kyle
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, last night I just assumed that we are going to shoot for December
14th, and I put together a flyer with all the pertinent information
(short of the names of people being there)...
Let me know if you think this will work for you, or do we need another
date?
Also, as this is the first event, should we open it to a wider
audience? Or should we build slowly?
Mike
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you, Chris. This will be very helpful. I have already contacted
two groups who might have similar interests, they are not directly
involved with Pd, but they do have people who I think would want to
see what others are doing.
Mike
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:43 PM, chris clepper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
There have been Pd user groups in Chicago in the past. One used to meet
at
Deadtech, but I think Rob Ray is currently at RPI. Before that there
was a
Max user group that also encompassed Pd and SuperCollider which I helped
start out many years ago ('98 or so).
You may want to contact the Chicago New Media google group:
http://groups.google.com/group/Chicago-new-media?lnk=srgie=UTF-8oe=utf-8pli=1
Also, look up Drew Browning at UIC and Robb Drinkwater at SAIC who are
into
such things. Paul Hertz is up at Northwestern, and there might be
someone
at U of Chicago too.
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Re: [PD] Chicago Patching Circle
Yes, this is awesome! I'd say let's shoot for December 14th, since that is
not quite a holiday time and is still enough time to raise interest.
Of course, agenda and things like that are another story. I'm curious about
format here. What do you all think? My work with Pd tends to be more for
interactive installations, but I would be willing to bring a rough bit of my
set up to demo it. It would be nice to keep this event fairly open, but
structure is a nice thing to have to make sure things actually happen.
~Kyle
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:40 PM, veronica soria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sounds great!
2008/11/10 Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ok, I got the word that the space is ours. Now it is just a question
of when. How do you want to schedule this?
It will be any Sunday at around 4 or 5... They open at 4, so if we do
it a bit later, that would ensure that everything is open and ready,
and it will give people a bit of time to set anything up. I will need
to know what day we all agree upon within the next week or so, so that
we can reserve the time. There won't be any fee, so the more people
you bring along (it is 21 and up, sorry), it would help with the beer
sales.
December 7th
December 14th
December 21st
Basically, what they have there is a mixing board, which we can plug
into directly, and a nice set of stage speakers, with monitors if
anyone wishes to perform from the stage. While they don't have any
projection system set up, that doesn't mean that you can't bring
something to use.
If this works out, we could think of doing this once a month, every
other month, once every 3... I also got some ideas of others who might
be interested, they aren't people who use Pd, but I think the more
people we get involved, the more of a chance of having this become a
regular thing. Plus the Cross-pollination of ideas would be great. I
was thinking of mentioning this to ESS (Experimental Sound Studio) and
the Chicago Composers Forum. If anyone has any other ideas, please let
me know...
Also, as far as flyers for this, I can get them printed, and if anyone
would like to post some around, that would be great...
Let me know.
Mike
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It seems that this should become its own thread
So, I still have not heard about the bar, but it would be nice to see
what times that people would be interested in holding this event. I
would think that with Thanksgiving coming up, that we shouldn't begin
until after that, maybe the first or second Sunday of December. That
would be either the 7th, or the 14th. And as I mentioned before, early
afternoon might be the easiest times to acquire, as they don't have
any regularly scheduled events. (They do have some bands on Sunday
nights, but that is not til after 9.)
Just so everyone knows where this is:
Red Line Tap
7006 N Glenwood
Just off the Morse El stop (if you exit to the North onto Lunt, it is
a half block from there)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=7006+N+Glenwood,+Chicagosll=37.0625,-95.677068sspn=58.337319,94.833984ie=UTF8z=17g=7006+N+Glenwood,+Chicagoiwloc=addr
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Re: [PD] Patching Circles
This is great. I wonder where we could meet? Does anyone have access to a
suitable facility/space? I'll keep my eyes/ears open for opportunities. It
would be nice to start a monthly get together!
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:43 PM, veronica soria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also live in the Chicago area. I am just getting started with pd and also
looking for people to meet up.
2008/11/9 Jacob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm in Chicago, too. I'd be totally up for some sort of get-together.
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On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ok, I added http://puredata.info/community/PatchingCircles to the wiki.
Now
we just need some content.
Also, I am in Chicago, and am interested in meeting up with others.
Anyone
else?
~KYle
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey,
I cc'ed the list since I think many people can contribute to this
topic.
That's great! Personally, I haven't really used the wiki page to
organize
a meeting, but some have. I basically talk to lots of people in
person, and
email them. I get a group of people to commit to a date and time
first,
like maybe 5 people. Then announce it, sometimes advertising using
their
names. I was running regular Arduino Hacklabs, and made a page for
that if
you are interested:
http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Main/NYCHacklab
I have heard there are some Pders at Art Institute, I don't know if you
have any connection to them.
.hc
On Nov 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Anthony Curry wrote:
Hello All,
I'm interested in meeting with other Pd'ers in the Chicago area.
How can I / we use the community page to establish a cirle in Chicago,
USA
as has been done in Copenhagen and Graz?
Happy Pd-ing.
Anthony C
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Re: [PD] Fwd: Patching Circles
Yeah. The bar access would be sweet to have access to. A projector would be
nice as well, but I also like using RCA to good ole sports-viewing tellies.
I like the collective idea, Veronica. I will ask around with some friends
and see if they know anywhere ideal.
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I don't know if this would be something I could swing, but there
is a bar in my neighborhood (Rogers Park, just off the Morse Stop on
the Red Line), but I know the manager who books the bands, and they
don't have anything on Sunday afternoon's at around 4 when they open,
they have a nice sound system... I will inquire about using this...
Mike
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 7:11 PM, veronica soria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think any individual could host something like this. I was
thinking
rather, since Chicago has this large artistic community, wether we could
find some collective which could lend as a room once a month. That
shouldn't
be very difficult. I am new in town and couldn't dare to tell, but
there's
plenty of spaces, I'll try to ask and hope I can come up with something
more
specific soon.
2008/11/9 Mike McGonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Patching Circles
To: Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is nice to see a number of people in Chicago. I don't really have
any place to hold something like this, but would love to get more
involved with others here in town. So far, my learning of PD has been
quite in solitary confinment, and there are times when it would be
nice to get someone else's perspective. The list is great, but
sometimes having immediate feedback would be nice.
Mike
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is great. I wonder where we could meet? Does anyone have access
to
a
suitable facility/space? I'll keep my eyes/ears open for
opportunities.
It
would be nice to start a monthly get together!
~Kyle
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:43 PM, veronica soria [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I also live in the Chicago area. I am just getting started with pd
and
also looking for people to meet up.
2008/11/9 Jacob Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm in Chicago, too. I'd be totally up for some sort of
get-together.
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On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Ok, I added http://puredata.info/community/PatchingCircles to the
wiki.
Now
we just need some content.
Also, I am in Chicago, and am interested in meeting up with
others.
Anyone
else?
~KYle
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hey,
I cc'ed the list since I think many people can contribute to this
topic.
That's great! Personally, I haven't really used the wiki page to
organize
a meeting, but some have. I basically talk to lots of people in
person, and
email them. I get a group of people to commit to a date and time
first,
like maybe 5 people. Then announce it, sometimes advertising
using
their
names. I was running regular Arduino Hacklabs, and made a page
for
that if
you are interested:
http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Main/NYCHacklab
I have heard there are some Pders at Art Institute, I don't know
if
you
have any connection to them.
.hc
On Nov 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Anthony Curry wrote:
Hello All,
I'm interested in meeting with other Pd'ers in the Chicago area.
How can I / we use the community page to establish a cirle in
Chicago,
USA
as has been done in Copenhagen and Graz?
Happy Pd-ing.
Anthony C
Chicago, IL
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Re: [PD] Patching Circles
Ok, I added http://puredata.info/community/PatchingCircles to the wiki. Now
we just need some content.
Also, I am in Chicago, and am interested in meeting up with others. Anyone
else?
~KYle
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hey,
I cc'ed the list since I think many people can contribute to this topic.
That's great! Personally, I haven't really used the wiki page to organize
a meeting, but some have. I basically talk to lots of people in person, and
email them. I get a group of people to commit to a date and time first,
like maybe 5 people. Then announce it, sometimes advertising using their
names. I was running regular Arduino Hacklabs, and made a page for that if
you are interested:
http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Main/NYCHacklab
I have heard there are some Pders at Art Institute, I don't know if you
have any connection to them.
.hc
On Nov 9, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Anthony Curry wrote:
Hello All,
I'm interested in meeting with other Pd'ers in the Chicago area.
How can I / we use the community page to establish a cirle in Chicago, USA
as has been done in Copenhagen and Graz?
Happy Pd-ing.
Anthony C
Chicago, IL
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Re: [PD] expr modulo negative
I think that since Miller is a self-described math geek, the difference is
that [mod] behaves like the mathematical (mod n). [%] is the modulo operator
used by computer science.
If my memory serves me, in number theory and abstract algebra, the m (mod n)
notation is used to define a subset of the integers (called a congruence
class) which contains n-1 elements.
For example, 5 (mod 3) == 2. Likewise, -5 (mod 3) == -2 (mod 3) == 1 (mod 3)
== 1. Note that my use of == here represents congruence and not necessarily
equality.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_arithmetic for a much more informed
discussion of this topic.
~Kyle
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maybe someone could explain _what_ the difference is?
that would be enlightening vor everybody.
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Re: [PD] biquad~ -- frey-squelchiness (FIXED!)
Nice midi recording abstraction!
~Kyle
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Frank Barknecht wrote:
There are lots of abstractions missing, or rather, they are just
symbolic links to files in /music/dlib/ :(
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] RJDJ released
Good work! I saw this on CDM and was amazed that there hadn't been more of a
buzz on the list.
This is awesome. Too bad I don't have a fancy phone to try it out on!
~Kyle
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Gunter Geiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
As several of you might already know, now it is official.
Check this out:
http://rjdj.me
A fully functional Pd just hit the iphone appstore, and you can create
Pd patches
with the system and run them on the iPhone.
There are some details though, which make it hard to put your patches
on the phone.
(due to apples security policy). One is, that you need a jailbroken
iPhone and use the
commandline in order to upload the patches ... but it is explained on
the webpage how
this is done. Actually if you have done it once it is quite easy.
For further question contact the RJDJ team at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings,
Günter
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Re: [PD] DIY library - samplers, synthesis, effects, etc
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