[PD] [pix_video] on Macbook Air Pd-extended 0.43.4

2014-03-19 Thread me.grimm
Hello,

I have a student with a Macbook Air that is having a problem with her
internal camera + [pix_video]

I don't have a Macbook Air nor have I encountered one running pd/gem before.

Does anyone know / have this issue? Solution (other than a new 64-bit Gem
:)?

[pix_video]: backend #0='Darwin' : darwin dv iidc analog
could not make new SG channnel error -9405
[pix_video]: no valid video backend found
could not make new SG channnel error -9405
[pix_video]: no valid video backend found
could not make new SG channnel error -9405
[pix_video]: no valid video backend found

Thanks!
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Re: [PD] Rewriting a unified phasor / metro object for reading tables

2014-03-15 Thread me.grimm
hey roman,

thanks for that!

I noticed though, is there a reason why it works on 0.45.3 and not
0.43.4-extended?

I could not tell off hand

m


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:

 (I believe this might rather belong to pd-list instead of pd-dev)

 On Don, 2014-03-06 at 18:56 -0500, me.grimm wrote:
  Roman,
 
   wrapping points. The only drawback compared to [phasor~] is that
  the
   latter allows to control the frequency with a signal and the
   [metro]/[vline~] based phasor obviously doesn't.

  I never did quite figure it out but how do you do more advanced things
  with [vline~] such as updating/increasing ramp speed mid ramp?

 Frankly, I often find myself struggling with those kinds of problems.

   I'll be glad to help you build the [phasor~] replacement that has
  an
   additional bang outlet, if you need it.
 
  Are you saying this is possible with just metro/vline~ combo? I would
  be curious what that looks like if you did build it

 It wasn't as easy as I initially expected it to be. I already had a
 [metro]-like abstraction that can do intra-interval tempo changes.
 However, I figured it was buggy (it worked only for the first tempo
 change within an interval) and had to redo it. That was the most
 difficult part. Combining it with [vline~ ] to make a [vphasor~ ] with
 extra bangs at each wrapping point wasn't as hard (at least not with its
 current limitations).

 Check attachment.

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Re: [PD] friendly reminder that osx pd-extended is still badly flawed

2014-03-13 Thread me.grimm
isnt that an osx thing?

http://osxdaily.com/2013/05/07/close-windows-when-quitting-apps-mac-os-x/




On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:

 every time i open a patch from clicking on an icon, PD loads 2 patches.
  pretty sure this is a long standing issue that hasn't been fixed.

 (os-x)

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[PD] [OT] Raspberry Pi Wolfson Audio Card

2014-03-12 Thread me.grimm
You all see this?

http://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-accessories/wolfson_pi

what do you think?
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[PD] 100k lines of code (was libpd separating gui from core)

2014-03-09 Thread me.grimm
Hi Miller,

I know you probably have more pressing problems but it would be nice to get
something like [getdir] in vanilla before you hit those 100k lines of code
OR 50 years are up :)

I know you have been bugged in the past but I just wanted to throw it in
again in case I could put some influence into you moving such functionality
up the to do list...

 built to last 50 years.  It's now about 17 ywars in (1/3 of its intended
lifetime.)

BTW I find this to be so cool. software minimalism at its finest. for me,
there is no reason to go elsewhere...

thanks for all the work!
m


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 HI all -

 My figure was 100K lines, not 10K.  PD's C code is at about 70K now, and
 the
 Tcl/TK code is 7K - so I am only adding expansions very carefully now.

 Another related idea with an absurdly arbitrary round number attached: the
 code is
 built to last 50 years.  It's now about 17 ywars in (1/3 of its intended
 lifetime.)

 cheers
 Miller

 On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 06:26:43PM -0500, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
  What I have been doing is solidifying core features to get a better idea
 of
  what the source should look like. Separating anything beforehand will
  result in s lot of problems/busywork later. I would also not deceive
 myself
  that 10K lines is enough. Pd-extended is way above that when you include
  3rs party externals. Ditto for pd-l2ork.
  On Feb 26, 2014 6:10 PM, Peter Brinkmann 
 peter.brinkm...@googlemail.com
  wrote:
 
  
  
  
   On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Ivica Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
  
   The reason why I believe combining all of these will not be feasible
 is
   because in one of my recent conversations with Miller (and Miller
 please
   correct me if I somehow misremember here) he expressed his belief any
   project that exceeds N lines of code which I believe in this case it
 was
   something like 1, it becomes unmaintainable and dies.
  
   That's why separating the GUI from the audio engine is so important. I
   sort of agree that 1 lines of irreducible GUI+audio code would
 probably
   be unmaintainable. On the other hand, 5000 lines of audio code plus
 5000
   lines of GUI code, communicating through a smallish, well-defined
   interface, wouldn't be a problem at all.
  
  

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Re: [PD] cryptocurrency and pd

2014-02-08 Thread me.grimm
maybe our own Pdcoin w/ mining ability only through/with Pd
externals/patches

m


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:09 AM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anything been done to try to marry these together yet?

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Re: [PD] Comma in Textfile Vanilla Solution

2014-01-26 Thread me.grimm
h using your example i get from textfile:

print--
print: , comma at the beginning
print: comma, right after first word
print: comma in\\, the middle
print: comma at the end\\,
/print--

i had not noticed before commas in beginning and after first word are
displayed unescaped
BUT, notice with my console output i get a double \\ while you get a
single \

why might that be so?

i assume you are on 0.45 linux
my system is 0.45 osx 10.9

to answer your question I would rather see a unescaped comma in the console
(without the escaping character)

 Am I right in thinking it would be desirable if escaping characters
wouldn't be displayed at all?

not at all. but then how to deal with a desirable comma?

m


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 On Sam, 2014-01-25 at 18:09 -0500, me.grimm wrote:
  I didnt realize this was a problem until i tried to read a textfile
  with a comma in it (yes escaped with a \)
 
  so hello\,world; gives me:
 
 
  hello\\,world
 
 
  now what?

 What would you rather expect to see within Pd? Non-escaped commas or
 single-escaped commas? What version of Pd is that?

 I made a small test with most recent 0.45 from git and my results are
 somewhat different, though still a bit messy:

 text--
 \, comma at the beginning;
 comma\, right after first word;
 comma in\, the middle;
 comma at the end\,;
 /text---

 gives:

 print--
 print: , comma at the beginning
 print: comma, right after first word
 print: comma in\, the middle
 print: comma at the end\,
 /print--

 While commas at the beginning or after the first word are displayed
 unescaped, all other commas are shown with escaping character. Is that a
 bug? Am I right in thinking it would be desirable if escaping characters
 wouldn't be displayed at all?

 It might be worth to note that feeding those lines to another [textfile]
 leads to a text file identical to the source which might indicate this
 is only a displaying issue.

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[PD] Comma in Textfile Vanilla Solution

2014-01-25 Thread me.grimm
I didnt realize this was a problem until i tried to read a textfile with a
comma in it (yes escaped with a \)

so hello\,world; gives me:

hello\\,world

now what?

the archive was not helpful because all suggested solutions use extended
objects. is there no way to have a coma in textfile in vanilla?

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 1.0.0 and 1.0.0-json-c-0.10 released

2014-01-19 Thread me.grimm
When example [GET /1.1/users/search.json?q=puredata{ is sent to [oauth] to
get data from Twitter API, not all data is returned therefore giving a Not
a JSON object using [json-decode]. Not sure the issue if its [oauth] or
me...

here the pd console output:

data1: [\{id:12096842,id_str:12096842,name:IBM Netezza
,screen_name:IBMNetezza,location:Marlborough,
MA,description:IBM PureData for Analytics dramatically simplifies
high-performance data analytics across the enterprise.,url:http:\\/\\/
t.co\\/xKEICQwg1L,entities:\{url:\{urls:[\{url:http:\\/\\/t.co
\\/xKEICQwg1L,expanded_url:http:\\/\\/www.ibmbigdatahub.com
,display_url:ibmbigdatahub.com,indices:[0,22]\}]\},description:\{urls:[]\}\},protected:false,followers_count:6643,friends_count:3324,listed_count:359,created_at:Fri
Jan 11 03:04:23 +
2008,favourites_count:4,utc_offset:-28800,time_zone:Pacific Time
(US 
Canada),geo_enabled:true,verified:false,statuses_count:4651,lang:en,status:\{created_at:Tue
Jun 25 16:52:33 +
2013,id:349570821603340288,id_str:349570821603340288,text:@crystaanderson
@TheSocialPitt - c'mon, I said \\Go Blackhawks\\ surely that's enough
#bruins,source:\\u003ca
Not a JSON object
status1: bang


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 Hi,

 On 03.01.2014 18:27, Thomas Mayer wrote:
  Hello,

  Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
  http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

 I have uploaded binaries for Raspbian as well. Download those also from
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 1.0.0 and 1.0.0-json-c-0.10 released

2014-01-18 Thread me.grimm
OSX Binaries (only for 64 bit):
http://megrimm.net/software/pd-purest_json-1.0.0-osx-x86_64.zip


On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:

 Hi,

 On 03.01.2014 18:27, Thomas Mayer wrote:
  Hello,

  Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
  http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

 I have uploaded binaries for Raspbian as well. Download those also from
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 1.0.0 and 1.0.0-json-c-0.10 released

2014-01-17 Thread me.grimm
h...

as soon as I try this on a production machine (not dev machine i compiled
on) I get error in the pd console with the-sound-of-money.pd example:

Error while performing request: Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access
rights?)

what could this be? libcurl.dylib permission stuff? im not getting too
much info from a quick google search

osx 10.9

m



On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:

 Hi,

 On 03.01.2014 18:27, Thomas Mayer wrote:
  Hello,

  Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
  http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

 I have uploaded binaries for Raspbian as well. Download those also from
 http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 0.15.0 released

2013-12-03 Thread me.grimm
got it. ok compiled fine with one warning:
1 warning generated.
json-encode.c:318:17: warning: format string is not a string literal
  (potentially insecure) [-Wformat-security]
fprintf(file, json_string);

all objects create but oauth i get:
 oauth
... couldn't create
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/PuRestJson-json-c-0.10/oauth.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Users/megrimm/Desktop/PuRestJson-json-c-0.10/oauth.pd_darwin, 10):
Symbol not found: _oauth_sign_url2
  Referenced from:
/Users/megrimm/Desktop/PuRestJson-json-c-0.10/oauth.pd_darwin
  Expected in: dynamic lookup

yeah... i didnt realize the json-c 10/11 prob. I'm actually compiling with
macports NOT fink but i think both are 0.10

m


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:

 Hi,

 your build system (Fink?) probably does not have json-c 0.11, but the
 old version 0.10. In that case, use the branch json-c-0.10 for building:

 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/tree/json-c-0.10

 The head of this branch is in the same state as master without the
 switch to json-c 0.11, and is updated on every release.

 Hth,
 Thomas


 On 03.12.2013 02:41, me.grimm wrote:
  on osx im getting:
 
  ld: library not found for -ljson-c
 
  ideas? i didn't get this prior to recent pull of you 0.15
 
  m
 
 
  On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org
 wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I am happy to announce version 0.15.0 of PuREST JSON, code name: The API
  they are a-changing.
 
  PuREST JSON is a library for working with RESTful HTTP webservices, and
  JSON data.
 
  Authentication and authorization for webservices are available with
  basic HTTP auth, cookie authentication, and OAuth. As an example for
  OAuth authenticated webservices, a Twitter client is included.
 
  Changes in the new version:
  - Cancellation is now faster
  - Switch to json-c 0.11
  - Refactoring of code
  - Breaking changes:
-- [oauth] and [rest]:
   * [write( method is now called [file(
   * [url( method is now called [init(
   * init errors only output to console
   * changes to status outlet:
 ** on success output bang
 ** on HTTP error output numerical HTTP status
 ** on cURL error output list: error code and message
-- [rest-json] has been removed
-- [json-decode]:
   * string values will not be checked for numbers or boolean
 
  If your build tool or platform does not have json-c 0.11 available, use
  the branch json-c-0.10 for compilation.
 
  Github repository:
  https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson
 
  Source code packages:
  https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/releases
 
  Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
  http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html
 
  Build instructions for all platforms:
  https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/wiki/Compilation
 
  Have fun,
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 0.15.0 released

2013-12-02 Thread me.grimm
on osx im getting:

ld: library not found for -ljson-c

ideas? i didn't get this prior to recent pull of you 0.15

m


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:

 Hello,

 I am happy to announce version 0.15.0 of PuREST JSON, code name: The API
 they are a-changing.

 PuREST JSON is a library for working with RESTful HTTP webservices, and
 JSON data.

 Authentication and authorization for webservices are available with
 basic HTTP auth, cookie authentication, and OAuth. As an example for
 OAuth authenticated webservices, a Twitter client is included.

 Changes in the new version:
 - Cancellation is now faster
 - Switch to json-c 0.11
 - Refactoring of code
 - Breaking changes:
   -- [oauth] and [rest]:
  * [write( method is now called [file(
  * [url( method is now called [init(
  * init errors only output to console
  * changes to status outlet:
** on success output bang
** on HTTP error output numerical HTTP status
** on cURL error output list: error code and message
   -- [rest-json] has been removed
   -- [json-decode]:
  * string values will not be checked for numbers or boolean

 If your build tool or platform does not have json-c 0.11 available, use
 the branch json-c-0.10 for compilation.

 Github repository:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson

 Source code packages:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/releases

 Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
 http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

 Build instructions for all platforms:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/wiki/Compilation

 Have fun,
 Thomas
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 0.14.0 released

2013-10-01 Thread me.grimm
ok

for reference it compiles when i do:

$ sudo port install curl +universal

and then find and replace sw with opt/local in the provided makefile.

... not quite sure how to build curl as a universal binary in fink so
i dont have to edit the makefile/use macports. other suggestion?

m


On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:
 Hi,

 it may depend on the version of curl that you are using for compilation:

 CURL_SIZEOF_LONG is defined as 4, while sizeof(long) returns 8 on 64bit
 systems. This leads to CurlchkszEQ(long, CURL_SIZEOF_LONG) returning -1.

 This has been reported in 2008 to the curl mailing list:
 http://curl.haxx.se/mail/lib-2008-09/0051.html

 Maybe you can temporarily fix that by making the modifications in
 curlbuild.h as described in the mail.

 Hth,
 Thomas

 On 27.09.2013 00:04, me.grimm wrote:
 trying a quick compile OSX 10.8 I get:

 In file included from /sw/include/curl/curl.h:35:
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:143:6: error: '__curl_rule_01__' declared as an
   array with a negative size
 [CurlchkszEQ(long, CURL_SIZEOF_LONG)];
  ^~~
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:132:27: note: expanded from macro 'CurlchkszEQ'
 #define CurlchkszEQ(t, s) sizeof(t) == s ? 1 : -1
   ^~~
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:153:6: error: '__curl_rule_02__' declared as an
   array with a negative size
 [CurlchkszEQ(curl_off_t, CURL_SIZEOF_CURL_OFF_T)];
  ^~~
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:132:27: note: expanded from macro 'CurlchkszEQ'
 #define CurlchkszEQ(t, s) sizeof(t) == s ? 1 : -1
   ^~~

 ideas?

 thanks for all the work on this

 m


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 Hello,

 I am happy to announce version 0.14.0 of PuREST JSON, code name: Davo.

 PuREST JSON is a library for working with RESTful HTTP webservices, and
 JSON data.

 Authentication and authorization for webservices are available with
 basic HTTP auth, cookie authentication, and OAuth. As an example for
 OAuth authenticated webservices, a Twitter client is included.

 Changes in this version:
 - Downloading to file
 - Cancelling of requests possible
 - [rest] and [oauth] now use libcurl multi interface internally

 Github repository:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson

 Source code packages:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/releases

 Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
 http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

 Build instructions for all platforms:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/wiki/Compilation

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 0.14.0 released

2013-10-01 Thread me.grimm
osx binaries here:

http://megrimm.net/software/pd-purest_json-0.14-osx-i386.zip

On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:
 Hi,

 it may depend on the version of curl that you are using for compilation:

 CURL_SIZEOF_LONG is defined as 4, while sizeof(long) returns 8 on 64bit
 systems. This leads to CurlchkszEQ(long, CURL_SIZEOF_LONG) returning -1.

 This has been reported in 2008 to the curl mailing list:
 http://curl.haxx.se/mail/lib-2008-09/0051.html

 Maybe you can temporarily fix that by making the modifications in
 curlbuild.h as described in the mail.

 Hth,
 Thomas

 On 27.09.2013 00:04, me.grimm wrote:
 trying a quick compile OSX 10.8 I get:

 In file included from /sw/include/curl/curl.h:35:
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:143:6: error: '__curl_rule_01__' declared as an
   array with a negative size
 [CurlchkszEQ(long, CURL_SIZEOF_LONG)];
  ^~~
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:132:27: note: expanded from macro 'CurlchkszEQ'
 #define CurlchkszEQ(t, s) sizeof(t) == s ? 1 : -1
   ^~~
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:153:6: error: '__curl_rule_02__' declared as an
   array with a negative size
 [CurlchkszEQ(curl_off_t, CURL_SIZEOF_CURL_OFF_T)];
  ^~~
 /sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:132:27: note: expanded from macro 'CurlchkszEQ'
 #define CurlchkszEQ(t, s) sizeof(t) == s ? 1 : -1
   ^~~

 ideas?

 thanks for all the work on this

 m


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 Hello,

 I am happy to announce version 0.14.0 of PuREST JSON, code name: Davo.

 PuREST JSON is a library for working with RESTful HTTP webservices, and
 JSON data.

 Authentication and authorization for webservices are available with
 basic HTTP auth, cookie authentication, and OAuth. As an example for
 OAuth authenticated webservices, a Twitter client is included.

 Changes in this version:
 - Downloading to file
 - Cancelling of requests possible
 - [rest] and [oauth] now use libcurl multi interface internally

 Github repository:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson

 Source code packages:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/releases

 Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
 http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

 Build instructions for all platforms:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/wiki/Compilation

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 0.14.0 released

2013-09-26 Thread me.grimm
trying a quick compile OSX 10.8 I get:

In file included from /sw/include/curl/curl.h:35:
/sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:143:6: error: '__curl_rule_01__' declared as an
  array with a negative size
[CurlchkszEQ(long, CURL_SIZEOF_LONG)];
 ^~~
/sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:132:27: note: expanded from macro 'CurlchkszEQ'
#define CurlchkszEQ(t, s) sizeof(t) == s ? 1 : -1
  ^~~
/sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:153:6: error: '__curl_rule_02__' declared as an
  array with a negative size
[CurlchkszEQ(curl_off_t, CURL_SIZEOF_CURL_OFF_T)];
 ^~~
/sw/include/curl/curlrules.h:132:27: note: expanded from macro 'CurlchkszEQ'
#define CurlchkszEQ(t, s) sizeof(t) == s ? 1 : -1
  ^~~

ideas?

thanks for all the work on this

m


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 Hello,

 I am happy to announce version 0.14.0 of PuREST JSON, code name: Davo.

 PuREST JSON is a library for working with RESTful HTTP webservices, and
 JSON data.

 Authentication and authorization for webservices are available with
 basic HTTP auth, cookie authentication, and OAuth. As an example for
 OAuth authenticated webservices, a Twitter client is included.

 Changes in this version:
 - Downloading to file
 - Cancelling of requests possible
 - [rest] and [oauth] now use libcurl multi interface internally

 Github repository:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson

 Source code packages:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/releases

 Binaries for Windows and Debian i386 and amd64:
 http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html

 Build instructions for all platforms:
 https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/wiki/Compilation

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-0 released

2013-08-26 Thread me.grimm
 anyone else having GUI trouble seeing sliders and number boxes move/change
 values?

seem to work ok for me... but i only did a quick test.

10.8.4

just currious, is all the work jonathon wilkes been doing on the pd
gui stuff (search, preferences, etc) on OSX expected to be a part of
Pd Vanilla?

m

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 1:36 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres
por...@gmail.com wrote:
 anyone else having GUI trouble seeing sliders and number boxes move/change
 values?

 i'm on mac os 10.7.5

 cheers


 2013/8/23 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu

 Hi all,

 Pd version 0.45-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm
 or via git from sourceforge:
   git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pure-data
   cd pure-data
   git checkout -b 0.45

 As always I'm sure there will be problems here and there - you're welcome
 to report them on the Pd mailing list (pd-list@iem.at) which is always the
 fastest way to get me to see them.

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[PD] Get List of Perimeters from [glsl _program}

2013-07-20 Thread me.grimm
I can send [print{ to the right inlet after shaders is loaded to print
acceptable variables to the console but how to get those perimeters in
a patch?

my ideal is when i load a shader the messages boxes, etc, for that
shader are dynamically created automatically rather than manually by
reading the console output of [glsl_program] once shader is linked and
loaded.

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Re: [PD] matrixctrl update

2013-07-13 Thread me.grimm
Thats great!

I wonder if it could be that one could change the cellsize without
loosing the pre-existing matrix definitions...

m

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 Hi list,

 another update to [matrixctrl]:

 - reset matrix
 - reads matrix definitions message (useful for state-saving)

 Incoming at another time: OR mode for either columns or rows. Unless you
 have better ideas.

 Best,

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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread me.grimm
hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.

but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?

m

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 hello,

 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
 when creating an object, the 4th letter typed on a object box make the
 screen goes black and the login screen to appear after few seconds...

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Re: [PD] ubutu 13.04

2013-04-30 Thread me.grimm
yup intel... 3 different machines i have running OK.

... im on Lubuntu BTW if that matters.

m



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 Le 30/04/2013 14:05, me.grimm a écrit :

 hmmm all is ok on my 13.04 installs.

 but im running pd-extended ... maybe the reason?

 well, it's a Xorg crash.not a pd crash.
 do you have an intel GPU?


 c


 m

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 hello,

 for ubuntu user : don't update to 13.04!

 on my computer and also on jack computer, pd can crash X server.
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Re: [PD] Cheap audio USB device with Raspberry PI -- works!

2013-04-30 Thread me.grimm
That's without dwc_otg.speed=1 added to /boot/cmdline.txt 

m

On Apr 30, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Blimey:)
 
 Could be really useful for workshops etc.
 £1.81 and free shipping to U.K (takes a while tho', so plan ahead). 
 Nice find.
 
 Julian
 
 
 On 30 April 2013 21:54, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:
 i've added this info to
 https://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/FrontPage
 it has no vendor/brand name, but the model is: HY544
 
 Am 30.04.2013 um 22:14 schrieb Alexandre Castonguay 
 acastong...@artengine.ca:
 
  Hi all,
 
  This card works (audio i/o) with the Raspberry PI (Raspbian).
 
  You just need to type 'amixer -c 1 set Mic 80% cap' in a term window to
  enable to Mic.  In PD, under preferences, choose 'Alsa' as output and
  under 'audio configuration', select 'input Generic AudioUSB Device
  (hardware) Channels 1' and 'output Generic USB Audio Device (plug-in)
  Channels 2'.
 
  This is the beast :-) -
 
  http://dx.com/p/usb-3d-sound-adapter-color-assorted-5831  (2.80 USD!)
 
  Have fun,
 
  * Merci à André Girard!
 
  Alexandre
 
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Re: [PD] pdp_sdl on Raspberry Pi Fullscreen from Console (No X Win) Initial Findings / Working (Kind of)

2013-04-12 Thread me.grimm
Hey Jaime,

It does work. Download my binaries I linked from my last post. Can you try it 
out for me? I have not done any other work on it since. I think I had some 
instructions in my last post right? I can't remember and I'm away until next 
week to check from a real computer that's not an iPhone.

Let me know if you try it and can get it to work too... 

M


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 Hi Mark,
 
 Did you make any progress running pdp on the pi?
 
 best,
 
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Re: [PD] Nikon DSLR Capture with Pd

2013-04-04 Thread me.grimm
if interested here is an example that works with applescript. takes a
pic with a dslr, saves to ~/Pictures, deletes from camera, opens in
Gem window:

http://megrimm.net/software/dslr-trigger_0.1_osx.zip

m

On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:
 that's done conveniently through the [shell] or [motex/system] with 
 applescript.

 example: to open VLC player
 send a message
 osascript -e 'tell application Finder to open application file VLC.app of 
 folder Applications of startup disk' 
 to [motex/system]



 Am 02.04.2013 um 16:38 schrieb me.grimm megr...@gmail.com:

 Has anyone been able to capture images from a Nikon DSLR with Pd?

 I have a student who is able to control her dslr with osx image capture 
 (space bar takes an image) but we can not seem to figure out how to capture 
 directly with/to pd OR even trigger image capture with pd might work also 
 for now

 BTW this is through the USB cable.

 thinking out loud - can pd send a system wide event like space bar though 
 shell maybe to image capture?

 that is if pd can not control dslr directly

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Re: [PD] Nikon DSLR Capture with Pd

2013-04-04 Thread me.grimm
yeah all events in one big message. too messy?

i tried quick to compile gphoto but my build machine is at home and i
only have access to a dslr at uni so i didnt have a way to test
today... maybe in a couple weeks time...

m

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:
 Oh, that relies on system events. Alternatively you could also make an 
 application through Automator and run this app from the shell in Pd.

 m.

 Am 04.04.2013 um 23:51 schrieb me.grimm megr...@gmail.com:

 if interested here is an example that works with applescript. takes a
 pic with a dslr, saves to ~/Pictures, deletes from camera, opens in
 Gem window:

 http://megrimm.net/software/dslr-trigger_0.1_osx.zip

 m

 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:
 that's done conveniently through the [shell] or [motex/system] with 
 applescript.

 example: to open VLC player
 send a message
 osascript -e 'tell application Finder to open application file VLC.app 
 of folder Applications of startup disk' 
 to [motex/system]



 Am 02.04.2013 um 16:38 schrieb me.grimm megr...@gmail.com:

 Has anyone been able to capture images from a Nikon DSLR with Pd?

 I have a student who is able to control her dslr with osx image capture 
 (space bar takes an image) but we can not seem to figure out how to 
 capture directly with/to pd OR even trigger image capture with pd might 
 work also for now

 BTW this is through the USB cable.

 thinking out loud - can pd send a system wide event like space bar 
 though shell maybe to image capture?

 that is if pd can not control dslr directly

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Re: [PD] Nikon DSLR Capture with Pd

2013-04-04 Thread me.grimm
neato... i guess ill have to learn more about automator

m

2013/4/4 Max abonneme...@revolwear.com:



 Am 05.04.2013 um 00:01 schrieb me.grimm megr...@gmail.com:

 yeah all events in one big message. too messy?

 i tried quick to compile gphoto but my build machine is at home and i
 only have access to a dslr at uni so i didnt have a way to test
 today... maybe in a couple weeks time...

 m

 On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:
 Oh, that relies on system events. Alternatively you could also make an 
 application through Automator and run this app from the shell in Pd.

 m.

 Am 04.04.2013 um 23:51 schrieb me.grimm megr...@gmail.com:

 if interested here is an example that works with applescript. takes a
 pic with a dslr, saves to ~/Pictures, deletes from camera, opens in
 Gem window:

 http://megrimm.net/software/dslr-trigger_0.1_osx.zip

 m

 On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote:
 that's done conveniently through the [shell] or [motex/system] with 
 applescript.

 example: to open VLC player
 send a message
 osascript -e 'tell application Finder to open application file 
 VLC.app of folder Applications of startup disk' 
 to [motex/system]



 Am 02.04.2013 um 16:38 schrieb me.grimm megr...@gmail.com:

 Has anyone been able to capture images from a Nikon DSLR with Pd?

 I have a student who is able to control her dslr with osx image 
 capture (space bar takes an image) but we can not seem to figure out 
 how to capture directly with/to pd OR even trigger image capture with 
 pd might work also for now

 BTW this is through the USB cable.

 thinking out loud - can pd send a system wide event like space bar 
 though shell maybe to image capture?

 that is if pd can not control dslr directly

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Re: [PD] PuREST JSON 0.11 for 32bit Build Request

2013-04-03 Thread me.grimm
if interested i did get a chance to compile for 32 bit osx systems. here
are the binaries with embedded libs:

http://megrimm.net/software/purest_json-0.11-i386.zip


m



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 Hello,

 I have a student interested in exploring this. She is using the 32bit
 extended build. Can someone build this for the 32bit pd-extended w/
 all libs embedded for me? I have no way to build this on my system
 without some great effort. If someone still has a 10.5 fink 32bit
 build system

 hans? maybe on the 10.5 build pdx system?

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[PD] Nikon DSLR Capture with Pd

2013-04-02 Thread me.grimm
Has anyone been able to capture images from a Nikon DSLR with Pd?

I have a student who is able to control her dslr with osx image capture
(space bar takes an image) but we can not seem to figure out how to capture
directly with/to pd OR even trigger image capture with pd might work also
for now

BTW this is through the USB cable.

thinking out loud - can pd send a system wide event like space bar though
shell maybe to image capture?

that is if pd can not control dslr directly

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Re: [PD] Nikon DSLR Capture with Pd

2013-04-02 Thread me.grimm
all good info! thanks for quick responses!

any gphoto osx binaries laying around? ill compile this week if not

i also forgot about the applescript stuff on osx systems... that might work
fine too...

thanks
m




On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Claude Heiland-Allen cla...@mathr.co.ukwrote:

 Hi,

 On 02/04/13 15:38, me.grimm wrote:
  Has anyone been able to capture images from a Nikon DSLR with Pd?

 gphoto is a library for interfacing with cameras [0]

 Ben Bogart wrote a gphoto external for Pd [1]

 gphoto does probably work on OS X [2]

 gphoto for Pd's makefile is only for Linux [3]

 so at least some build system hacking is required, possibly more in
 depth code changes (if gphoto external for Pd has bitrotted out of sync
 with current versions of gphoto library)

 [0] http://gphoto.sourceforge.net/
 [1] http://puredata.info/downloads/gphoto
 [2] http://blog.dcclark.net/2009/05/how-to-gphoto-primer.html
 [3]

 https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/bbogart/gphoto/makefile


 Claude

 
  I have a student who is able to control her dslr with osx image capture
  (space bar takes an image) but we can not seem to figure out how to
 capture
  directly with/to pd OR even trigger image capture with pd might work
 also
  for now
 
  BTW this is through the USB cable.
 
  thinking out loud - can pd send a system wide event like space bar
 though
  shell maybe to image capture?
 
  that is if pd can not control dslr directly
 
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[PD] PuREST JSON 0.11 for 32bit Build Request

2013-03-20 Thread me.grimm
Hello,

I have a student interested in exploring this. She is using the 32bit
extended build. Can someone build this for the 32bit pd-extended w/
all libs embedded for me? I have no way to build this on my system
without some great effort. If someone still has a 10.5 fink 32bit
build system

hans? maybe on the 10.5 build pdx system?

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Re: [PD] [pd open $1 $2{ from relative path without getdir

2013-03-20 Thread me.grimm
 notion of Pd's start location. I wouldn't mind if all those cases would
 be changed to relative-to-patch.

or a [getdir] in vanilla

miller?

m


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Die, 2013-03-19 at 16:59 -0400, me.grimm wrote:
 I was just looking at romans old post:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg04869.html

 did this ever get fixed? In the help-pd help browser-pd
 msg-msg_and_pd-open_close.pd i see:

 Sometimes you can get relative paths (./, ../, etc.) to work, but
 usually not. I don't know why...

 the example under it uses [getdir]

 there is no vanilla [getdir] right? and i was assuming the manual
 example above was a vanilla example...

 IDK basically im trying to have a vanilla way to do [pd open $1 $2{
 and have $2 relative to where ever my patch is sitting.

 but maybe im easily missing the obvious something that was addressed
 since romans 2007 post...


 From what I know, the situation is still the same. Many things in Pd are
 still relative to Pd's start location. The 'open' message to 'pd' is one
 of them. Also [openpanel] interprets relative paths relative to Pd's
 start location. There are quite a lot of externals with the same
 behavior, too. [moocow/readdir] just pops to my mind.

 From a user's perspective, this is simply broken, as a patch hasn't any
 notion of Pd's start location. I wouldn't mind if all those cases would
 be changed to relative-to-patch.

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[PD] [pd open $1 $2{ from relative path without getdir

2013-03-19 Thread me.grimm
I was just looking at romans old post:

http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg04869.html

did this ever get fixed? In the help-pd help browser-pd
msg-msg_and_pd-open_close.pd i see:

Sometimes you can get relative paths (./, ../, etc.) to work, but
usually not. I don't know why...

the example under it uses [getdir]

there is no vanilla [getdir] right? and i was assuming the manual
example above was a vanilla example...

IDK basically im trying to have a vanilla way to do [pd open $1 $2{
and have $2 relative to where ever my patch is sitting.

but maybe im easily missing the obvious something that was addressed
since romans 2007 post...

m

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.43.4 released!

2013-03-18 Thread me.grimm
hi olsen

did you install the 64bit version of pd-extended? At the moment Gem is
broken in that version. Try the 32bit version.

m

On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, olsen raumkundschaf...@hasa-labs.org wrote:
 Hi Hans

 I just got my hands on an OSX 10.7.5 and a 10.6.8 system and with 0.43.4
 there seems to be a problem with Gem - e.g. opening the help of [pix_film]
 gives me the following error:

 [pix_film] now mogie decoding backends found
 gemglutwindow
 ... couldn't create

 any idea?

 thanks  salutis
 Olsen




 On 01/29/2013 09:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Its time to announce the next big Pd-extended release, 0.43.4!  This
 release
 has the most new features of any release before, so many annoyances are
 gone,
 many new tools help you patch, and.  There will be more updates to cover
 some
 of the new features here, in the form of news items on puredata.info, blog
 posts, screencasts and more.


 Download here for all platforms (Debian, Mac OS X, Mint, Raspbian, Ubuntu,
 Windows, and of course the source code):
 http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended/releases/0.43.4

 For Debian/Ubuntu/Mint/etc., you can add an apt source by following the
 instructions at the top of the page here:
 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian


 ChangeLog
 ---

 Here you can get a good overview in what has changed, so you know where to
 find out more.


 changes since 0.43.1
 
   * search-plugin included by default
   * improved audio performance on Mac and Windows, Mac now uses half the
 CPU when idle (portaudio update)
   * (Windows) full unicode support
   * support full unicode MIDI device names (portmidi)
   * many completed translations
   * many bugfixes



 changes since 0.42.5
 

 == changes to the editor ==

   * GUI Plugins! can customize a wide array of features of the editor
   * Autotips in Edit Mode to get information about inlets, outlets, and
 objects
   * Magic Glass to snoop on messages as they pass thru connections
   * Search everything! Thanks to Jonathan Wilkes' search plugin, now
 included
 by default
   * full Unicode support throughout Pd (there are still some layout issues
 with right-to-left alphabets and character-based languages)
   * fully localizable GUI, with full translations for French, German,
 Japanese,
 Italian, and Greek
   * full interface translations with limited search translation for
 Catalan,
 Chinese (China), Chinese (Taiwan), Danish, German, Hungarian, Korean,
 Portuguese (Brazil), Slovak, Spanish, Spanish (Mexico)
   * partial translations for: Russian, Turkish
   * contribute to translations:
 https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/puredata/
   * paths are no longer saved in the preferences. Use the [path] or
 [declare -path] objects, or use the standard global install locations
   * complete Tcl/Tk 8.5 support and integration
   * drastically improved Pd window logging/print performance (1000
 lines/sec
 and you can still patch)
   * Ctrl-click/Cmd-click error messages in Pd window to find the object
 with
 the error
   * five log levels and dynamic filtering of Pd window log ('fatal, error,
 normal, debug, all')
   * library loading printed to Pd window at level 'debug' so the Pd window
 is blank when Pd-extended starts
   * hierarchical display of open subpatches/abstractions in Window menu:
 http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease/window_hierarchy.png
   * generate complete Pd window log using 'File-Save As..' when on the
 Pd window
   * 'File-New' creates the new patch in the folder of the current patch
   * 'File-Print' now prints the entire canvas rather than just the
 visible
  part (thanks Trevor Fancher)
   * 'File-Save As...', 'Edit-Copy', and 'Edit-Select All' now work on
 the Pd window
   * Ctrl/Cmd  and  cycle through open windows
   * added Autopatch, Autotips, and Perf Mode control on the Edit menu
   * improved handling of multiple monitors
   * (GNU/Linux) realtime mode enabled by default (-rt)
   * (GNU/Linux) window placement logic can be handled in plugin for better
 support of many Window Managers (`pdtk_canvas_place_window`)
   * (GNU/Linux and Mac OS X) [comport] no longer crashes Pd when open
 USB-serial devices are unplugged
   * (GNU/Linux and Windows) !TkDND drag-n-drop support for dropping files
 onto Pd and patch windows
   * (GNU/Linux and Windows) added Alt shortcuts to menus
   * (GNU/Linux and Windows) Navigate menus with arrow keys
   * (GNU/Linux and Windows) Pd window and patchses now have a Pd icon
 when Alt-Tabbing
   * (Windows) zip-only distro with pd-extended.bat to run without
 installing

 == updates to the core ==

   * updated to latest stable portaudio v19-20110326
   * free methods always called on quit, so cameras, network sockets, etc.
 are properly freed
   * GUI objects no longer send pointless draw updates, reducing GUI load
   * (Windows) external libraries can now include DLLs in a 

[PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)

2013-03-14 Thread me.grimm
How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console
(no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on
raspbian/linux

my google searches have not ended so well on this subject

m

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Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)

2013-03-14 Thread me.grimm
hmmm... i forgot about that. I will try it...

no way in vanilla i take it?

m


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote:
 Quoth me.grimm, on 14/03/2013 16:57:

 How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console
 (no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on
 raspbian/linux

 my google searches have not ended so well on this subject

 m

 use [hid] and read this:

 http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot



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Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)

2013-03-14 Thread me.grimm
 3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input

this might be the best solution for now until i take a look into the
shell scripting you suggested. although, how to make it all on one
line (one command). Variations in this:

megrimm-mbp:~ megrimm$ (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ) ; (pdsend 3000)

fail or me.

m



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 - Original Message -

 From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
 To: James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com
 Cc: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)

 hmmm... i forgot about that. I will try it...

 no way in vanilla i take it?

 Sure...
 1) Put a [netreceive 4321] in a patch like so:
 [netreceive 4321]
 |
 [220 250, 330 300 2500, 440 300 3800, 550 75 6000, 525 20 6250, 0 300 9000; 
 pd dsp 1(
 |
 [vline~]
 |
 [osc~]
 |
 [dac~]

 2) In a terminal type:
 pdsend 4321

 3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input (selector args semicolon) 
 so type something like:
 Hello World;

 4) The message Hello World will come out the left outlet of [netreceive] 
 and trigger the sound

 So if you're ok typing FUDI messages like this example to trigger commands, 
 all you need is to
 type a command like play; or stop; or whatever and [route] it when it 
 comes out netreceive's
 outlet.

 If you want to trigger events more efficiently you probably need a shell 
 script that catches your
 input and converts it to ascii numbers and then hands it over to pdsend, one 
 character at a
 time (not sure how to do that).  That way you'd just be sending sequences of 
 numbers like
 113;, 104;, etc. and [routing] them when they come out of netreceive.

 You can also use the old behavior of netreceive which interprets the 
 selector of your
 message as the receive symbol.  You could then generate genuine key events 
 (i.e.,
 key 1 114 0 1 that will be received by [key] objects.  But then if someone 
 happens to
 get inside your network and find that port open, they can start building 
 arbitrary Pd patches
 on your machine. :)

 -Jonathan


 m


 On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:17 PM, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote:
  Quoth me.grimm, on 14/03/2013 16:57:

  How can I best send key commands to pd when i do -nogui from console
  (no x windows) to be received with [key], for example? im on
  raspbian/linux

  my google searches have not ended so well on this subject

  m

  use [hid] and read this:


 http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToReadHIDDevicesInLinuxWithoutBeingRoot



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Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)

2013-03-14 Thread me.grimm
hey! that was pretty brilliant!

now w/ -stderr also prints to terminal:

(pd -nogui -stderr -open netreceive-help.pd ); sleep 5  pdsend 3000

 Maybe there's a shell guru here who can tell you how to wrap it up in
 a script that automatically sends messages on each keydown event. :)

yes!

m



On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
 - Original Message -

 From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com; pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Send Key Commands to PD w/ -nogui without X (from console)

  3) the 'pdsend' program waits for FUDI input

 this might be the best solution for now until i take a look into the
 shell scripting you suggested. although, how to make it all on one
 line (one command). Variations in this:

 megrimm-mbp:~ megrimm$ (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ) ; (pdsend 3000)

 fail or me.

 I don't understand networking very well, but it looks like the netreceive
 has to bind to the port first, and I think your script only waits until pd
 process sucessfully starts (i.e., doesn't wait for it to load the patch) 
 before
 doing 'pdsend'.

 Quick and dirty:
 (pd -open netreceive-help.pd ); sleep 5  pdsend 3000

 That way pdsend waits five seconds before executing, and the patch
 should be loaded by then.

 Maybe there's a shell guru here who can tell you how to wrap it up in
 a script that automatically sends messages on each keydown event. :)

 -Jonathan




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[PD] pdp_sdl on Raspberry Pi Fullscreen from Console (No X Win) Initial Findings / Working (Kind of)

2013-03-14 Thread me.grimm
From this post (SDL 1.2 with dispmanx backend):
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25146

I was able to get pdp_sdl working in fullscreen with hardware
acceleration. It is surprisingly fast. I was able to generate noise
(pdp_noise-help.pd) and play video (pdp_qt-help.pd) without an
Xwindows right from the console. I did it this way. Make sure you are
in the console only (no x window system).

To try it out:

get:
http://megrimm.net/press/wp-content/software/pdp_03.14.13.zip
http://megrimm.net/press/wp-content/software/sdl-dispmanx_03.14.13.zip
http://megrimm.net/press/wp-content/software/pdp-noise_sdl-test.pd

unzip:
/home/pi/pd-externals/pdp
/home/pi/Applications/SDL12-kms-dispmanx

copy/move:
/home/pi/Desktop/pdp-noise_sdl-test.pd

then:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/pi/Applications/SDL12-kms-dispmanx/build/.libs
pd  pd -nogui -stderr -lib pdp -open
/home/pi/Desktop/pdp-noise_sdl-test.pd

To Do (Help?):
- I would like to figure out a way to just run the above command in a
.sh script. If we want to keep libsdl1.2debian stock then you have to
use export LD_LIBRARY_PATH to load pd/sdl with dispmanx backend. One
could just do a make install in the SDL12-kms-dispmanx directory but
that would effect the entire system replacing libsdl1.2debian
- I have modified pdp_sdl.c slightly to work with the dispmanx
backend. i have not figured out how to modify to EXIT sdl so at the
moment the only way to get out of the application is to reboot the
system.
- What is the best file format for pdp/rpi? The anim.mov at 320x240
(not sure of codec) was fast and smooth. I also tried a .mov 720x480
photo-jpeg 80megs that was slow and grainy.

If others are interested we can work together on this. Let me know.

Also im wondering. Might someone know the way to compile just pdp_sdl
as a stand alone? Right now every time i make a change I compile the
whole thing because im unschooled and code C by trial and error.

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Re: [PD] Model A RPi works w/ Pure Data

2013-03-10 Thread me.grimm
 Anyone know if GEM will ever work on a Pi?

needs to be ported for opengl-es.

pdp would be much easier to get working, i believe. I have messed with it a bit.

pdp_sdl creates a window but the height is only 1px tall. other than
that i can play a video, create some noise etc, but again its only 1px
tall.

pdp_xv would be ideal but the rpi has no xvideo extension afaik. not
sure what this would take or if an xvideo extension can be added.

also whatever happens with pdp or gem needs to to be processed via gpu
otherwise its pretty useless. pdp_sdl, even at 1px height, was maxing
the cpu, so even that might not be too useful.

m

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 1:38 PM, tefman prosk tefte...@gmail.com wrote:
 A thank you for all the info here in the form of more info that you may not
 know..

 The Details of my Test of RPi A
 Using cheap Sabrent USB audio (lists as CB109  Generic USB Audio device)
 out only...
 44.1khz/ 22m /64
 Fooling around w/ shepard tone patch and 1 ADC from arduino (firmata) gives
 me about
 60-70% CPU load w/ GUI running no SSH.  Will try the same w/ behringer
 interface when it shows up.
 hoping to get audio in working.

 Coolest thing: Just popped in a Model B sd card w/ everything installed. It
 booted no problem, and just worked.
 maybe just a bit faster...

 Regular audio out still stinks.

 Anyone know if GEM will ever work on a Pi?

  Best -Stefan Prosky

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[PD] pix_freenect external compiled for windows

2013-03-04 Thread me.grimm
does anyone have pix_freenect (of fux_kinect?) compiled for windows
they could send me? I have a student wanting to use a kinect on a
windows system with pd.

m

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Re: [PD] pd rpi logo

2013-02-24 Thread me.grimm
oh i was trying to organize and moved the folder.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/hznhfw8fclperwq/zqZWcDsXdy

yeah use it!

m


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Could you repost the logo please and are you ok with it being made use of
 (with the correct acknowledgement of course)?

 Thanks in advance,

 Julian


 On 7 February 2013 16:00, me.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote:

  very nice, though i think the space between the raspberry

 done.

 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n66a0r8h65ue31q/WD07SiNEYa?lst

 yeah i initially thought that but then forgot that i thought that and
 didnt do it.

 m


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  i made a little pd rpi logo to replace the default.
 
  very nice, though i think the space between the raspberry and the
  surrounding bang-square could be white, so the berry is easier to
  make out.
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 0.11

2013-02-23 Thread me.grimm
hello,

just a report if you need one, on osx

liboauth seems to compile and install fine (is not in fink, i just
grabbed it from sourceforge). just:
./configure
make
make install

and your oauth seems to find oauth.h fine with that.

also instead if libcurl4-ssl  which you have in your directions i used
$ fink install libcurl4 and libcurl4-shibs

Running make in the purest_json folder = all is well and i have
binaries that load with you help files.

./embed-MacOSX-dependencies.sh is also pretty nice.

only prob is my whole system is 64bit fink on 10.7. i dont think i can
build universal (or can i?). maybe someone can build on 32bit?

thanks for the cool work!
cheers
m

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:
 Hello,

 version 0.11 of PuREST JSON is released. Codename: Long string is long.

 PuREST JSON is a library for working with RESTful HTTP webservices,  and
 JSON data.

 Authentication and authorization for webservices are available with
 basic HTTP auth, cookie authentication, and OAuth. As an example for
 OAuth authenticated webservices, a Twitter client is included.

 Changes in the new version:
 - symbols can be longer than MAXPDLENGTH (1024 characters)
 - [json-decode] works with lists and any other data type as well
 - Setting request timeout for [rest] and [oauth] possible
 - Cleaning up of source code and help files
 - Bugfixes:
   -- [oauth] posts data again
   -- Fixed segfault in Windows at errors

 Github page: https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson
 Binary downloads for Windows and Debian:
 http://ix.residuum.org/pd/purest_json.html
 Build instructions: https://github.com/residuum/PuRestJson/wiki/Compilation

 Have fun,
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[PD] sdl on RPI (was pdp on RPI (was RPi - GEM openGL))

2013-02-18 Thread me.grimm
pdp_sdl gives me a window. no image in the window though. not sure if
its hardware GPU accelerated or all though CPU.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdnuivvlbrn1jd5/rpi-pdp_sdl-screenshot.png


m



On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, olm-e o...@ogeem.be wrote:
 hello,

 to my knowledge, and following what I already tried, the xvideo
 extention is not usable due to the restrictions on the gpu chip,
 and even gstreamer is not capable of using it :

 result of collective efforts and experiments during the last puredata
 patching circle in Brussels  :

 http://variable.constantvzw.org/define/index.php/PiEye

 if anyone can leverage this it will be good... (but I don't have too
 much hope)

 Olm-e
 http://ogeem.be
 http://patchingcircles.be


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 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:47:51 -0500
 From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] pdp on RPI (was RPi - GEM openGL)
 To: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Message-ID:
   cace5q1637szqx8cphlyd4-ageetxjs-zie1dscy4vxnqgdn...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 ok i just went with the apt-get install pd-pdp

 so when i do this:

 $ xvinfo

 i get extention xvideo missing and no xvideo extention on :0

 $ xdpyinfo

 yeilds no module such as xv anything.

 can someone confirm that xv even exists as a working extention on rpi?
 maybe i have to load v4l manually?
 not sure how to do that

 m

 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17/02/13 23:33, me.grimm wrote:
 That's what I was assuming. How to build just pdp.pd_linux minus the
 pdp_opengl.pd_linux is the question

 I'll try later this afternoon if I get the chance

 does the raspbian package fail on raspbian?? I guess it must build, it has
 been built in the main debian repos for both armhf and armel for quite a
 long time.

 It does have the pdp-opengl binary, and it does depend on gsl etc so they
 must be there even if not working.

 http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/p/pdp/


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Re: [PD] sdl on RPI (was pdp on RPI (was RPi - GEM openGL))

2013-02-18 Thread me.grimm
so im noticing that it did load a .mov and can play it in a window
using pdp_sdl. unfortunatly the video only play a 1px height. from
this screen shot you can see the thin line at the top of the window.
that is the mov playing. so thats good and bad.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7dfuj96a6e6pcp/rpi-pdp_sdl-screenshot-01.png

maybe someone has a suggestion? this was the same with the pdp_noise
test that i did i just did not notice the one single px line at the
top of the window for that one

also if you notice from my screengrab that the cpu is maxed.

maybe it will work better with this:

http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=25146

and now im wondering if patches can be run without booting to X
(directly from console) all -nogui style.

this would make it all be handled through GPU not CPU im assuming? or
maybe im wrong in my assumption.

m

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 2:46 PM, me.grimm megr...@gmail.com wrote:
 pdp_sdl gives me a window. no image in the window though. not sure if
 its hardware GPU accelerated or all though CPU.

 https://www.dropbox.com/s/wdnuivvlbrn1jd5/rpi-pdp_sdl-screenshot.png


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 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:39 PM, olm-e o...@ogeem.be wrote:
 hello,

 to my knowledge, and following what I already tried, the xvideo
 extention is not usable due to the restrictions on the gpu chip,
 and even gstreamer is not capable of using it :

 result of collective efforts and experiments during the last puredata
 patching circle in Brussels  :

 http://variable.constantvzw.org/define/index.php/PiEye

 if anyone can leverage this it will be good... (but I don't have too
 much hope)

 Olm-e
 http://ogeem.be
 http://patchingcircles.be


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 Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:47:51 -0500
 From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD] pdp on RPI (was RPi - GEM openGL)
 To: Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
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 ok i just went with the apt-get install pd-pdp

 so when i do this:

 $ xvinfo

 i get extention xvideo missing and no xvideo extention on :0

 $ xdpyinfo

 yeilds no module such as xv anything.

 can someone confirm that xv even exists as a working extention on rpi?
 maybe i have to load v4l manually?
 not sure how to do that

 m

 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17/02/13 23:33, me.grimm wrote:
 That's what I was assuming. How to build just pdp.pd_linux minus the
 pdp_opengl.pd_linux is the question

 I'll try later this afternoon if I get the chance

 does the raspbian package fail on raspbian?? I guess it must build, it has
 been built in the main debian repos for both armhf and armel for quite a
 long time.

 It does have the pdp-opengl binary, and it does depend on gsl etc so they
 must be there even if not working.

 http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/p/pdp/


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Re: [PD] pdp on RPI (was RPi - GEM openGL)

2013-02-17 Thread me.grimm
That's what I was assuming. How to build just pdp.pd_linux minus the 
pdp_opengl.pd_linux is the question

I'll try later this afternoon if I get the chance 

M

On Feb 17, 2013, at 12:35 AM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 17/02/13 01:25, me.grimm wrote:
 Has anyone tried using pdp on a Pi?
 
 i get:
 
 ../../include/pdp_matrix.h:25:27: fatal error: gsl/gsl_block.h: No
 such file or directory
 
 even when doing:
 
 ./configure --disable-glx --disable-gsl
 
 which gives me:
 
   --enable-mmx=no
   --enable-quicktime=yes
   --enable-v4l=yes
   --enable-pwc=auto
   --enable-sdl=yes
   --enable-x=yes
   --enable-xv=yes
   --enable-glx=no
   --enable-gsl=no
   --enable-png=yes
   --enable-debug=no
 
 
 ???
 
 that looks like pdp_matrix is using shaders and therefore won't work on the 
 Pi ... probably need to avoid building it, plus any other parts that are 
 using shaders  more clues on this below, bit it seems from a glance at 
 google that OpenGL was an addition to pdp, but a while ago ... so there may 
 be quite a lot that does not depend on it.
 
 I have two binaries in the /usr/lib/pd/extra/ ... pdp.pd_linux and 
 pdp-opengl.pd_linux ... while in /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ I have just 
 pdp/pdp.pd_linux, so they were obviously built quite differently.
 
 The one in extended came with a pd-extended deb, and presumably from the 
 pd-extended build system, while the pdp-opengl.pd_linux came with the pd-pdp 
 deb so maybe its worth building from the debian source package, but avoid 
 building the opengl part
 
 Neither of these packages are very recent, but both work.
 
 
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Re: [PD] pdp on RPI (was RPi - GEM openGL)

2013-02-17 Thread me.grimm
ok i just went with the apt-get install pd-pdp

so when i do this:

$ xvinfo

i get extention xvideo missing and no xvideo extention on :0

$ xdpyinfo

yeilds no module such as xv anything.

can someone confirm that xv even exists as a working extention on rpi?
maybe i have to load v4l manually?
not sure how to do that

m

On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 17/02/13 23:33, me.grimm wrote:

 That's what I was assuming. How to build just pdp.pd_linux minus the
 pdp_opengl.pd_linux is the question

 I'll try later this afternoon if I get the chance


 does the raspbian package fail on raspbian?? I guess it must build, it has
 been built in the main debian repos for both armhf and armel for quite a
 long time.

 It does have the pdp-opengl binary, and it does depend on gsl etc so they
 must be there even if not working.

 http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/p/pdp/


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[PD] pdp on RPI (was RPi - GEM openGL)

2013-02-16 Thread me.grimm
 Has anyone tried using pdp on a Pi?

i get:

../../include/pdp_matrix.h:25:27: fatal error: gsl/gsl_block.h: No
such file or directory

even when doing:

./configure --disable-glx --disable-gsl

which gives me:

  --enable-mmx=no
  --enable-quicktime=yes
  --enable-v4l=yes
  --enable-pwc=auto
  --enable-sdl=yes
  --enable-x=yes
  --enable-xv=yes
  --enable-glx=no
  --enable-gsl=no
  --enable-png=yes
  --enable-debug=no


???

m



On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Simon Wise simonzw...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 16/02/13 20:16, Antoine Villeret wrote:

 hello,

 if by from within PD you mean triggering omxplayer from pd
 you can do that either by using [shell] like Simon explained
 or by using pdsend and pdreceive, this could be done remotely, here is an
 how to :
 http://antoine.villeret.free.fr/?p=600
 cheers


 yes .. a pipe works fine as well.

 Antoine did you check out xbmc further, I don't have a Pi here at the moment
 but have been looking at the xbmc docs and it can be controlled directly
 through a TCP port, so you should be able to do a lot more control (via
 netsend etc). Perhaps only the media centre playlist, looping and seeking
 stuff ... no crossfades that I can see. There does seem to be some provision
 for custom effects somewhere, via shaders but it seems, but probably only in
 GL, not in GL-ES. Still ... accurate seeking could be useful, there seems to
 be access to a global clock and seeks in files ... both with high enough
 resolution to sync things well. I'll test that when I can when I get a
 chance.

 Has anyone tried using pdp on a Pi? again, I'll have a play when I've got
 one here. Pdp has an xv window, and a movie player that uses the linux
 quicktime library ... is the quicktime library available for Pi? and if so
 does it use the built-in codecs? ... that could be a way to go for fairly
 straightforward video playback.

 Simon


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd vanilla 0.44-2 (update to fix denormal behavior for Raspberry Pi)

2013-02-07 Thread me.grimm
 an alias like alias pd=/home/pi/pd/bin/pd and you'll be able to type pd

yes thanks! works in .bash_aliases too. prob a little cleaner that way.

 That silent trickle down is mostly due to the diligent work of IOhannes,

we should prob all send him nice presents in the mail.

m

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 That silent trickle down is mostly due to the diligent work of IOhannes, I
 want to point out. :-)  He is doing the vast majority of the work for
 maintaining the 'puredata' suite in Debian.

 .hc

 On 02/05/2013 01:01 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
 I'm not involved in the Pd linux distributions for Pi but new versions of Pd
 seem to trickle down to them after some delay.  But if you want the newest,
 just grab it, un-tar it into your home directory, and in your .bashrc make
 an alias like alias pd=/home/pi/pd/bin/pd and you'll be able to type pd
 to new shell windows to get it started - that's how I do it anyhow.

 cheers
 Miller

 On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 02:54:52AM -0200, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
 how difficult to just get this version in the raspian
 repo so we can all just do apt-get?

 that's a good one since that's as far as my linux expertise goes so far,
 the RPI is my first linux ;)

 2013/2/3 me.grimm megr...@gmail.com

 what would be the best practice for installing this?

 of course i could cd /to/pd/bin/  ./pd

 but better yet just pd from terminal would be swanky

 and maybe not just run pd from ~/Desktop or ~/ or whatever.

 how difficult to just get this version in the raspian repo so we can
 all just do apt-get?

 m

 On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
 Hi all,

 This is only of interest to Raspberry Pi users - I've fixed the denormal
 problem Katja reported and recompiled - you can get that and the new
 sources
 from the usual sources:

 http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm

 or

 git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data

 cheers
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[PD] pd rpi logo

2013-02-07 Thread me.grimm
i made a little pd rpi logo to replace the default.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n66a0r8h65ue31q/WD07SiNEYa?lst

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Re: [PD] pd rpi logo

2013-02-07 Thread me.grimm
 very nice, though i think the space between the raspberry

done.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/n66a0r8h65ue31q/WD07SiNEYa?lst

yeah i initially thought that but then forgot that i thought that and
didnt do it.

m


On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:15 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote:
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 On 2013-02-07 15:59, me.grimm wrote:
 i made a little pd rpi logo to replace the default.

 very nice, though i think the space between the raspberry and the
 surrounding bang-square could be white, so the berry is easier to
 make out.

 fgmasdr
 IOhannes
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Re: [PD] pidip

2013-02-07 Thread me.grimm
i would wonder. what does pidip got that gem does not?
and cant those things that it got that gem does not
be added to gem via original gpl code?
why have more than one vid lib
at least in pdx

m

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I'm not aware of that.  Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should all be
 GPL, since it is based on GPL code.  The GPL does not allow more license
 restrictions, and the pidip license does just that.  So that means that the
 GPL code included in pidip is still GPL, but the code that sevy contributed is
 under his license, and those two licenses conflict. So basically, pidip is not
 legal to distribute in binary form because of the conflicting licenses within
 itself.

 Whether you choose to ignore copyright law is your decision.  I am personally
 fine with people distributing pidip as its own thing and using it with any of
 my code as long as:

 1) the pidip distro is clearly marked as non-free
 2) pidip is not bundled with my GPLed code (i.e. as part of pd-extended,
 pd-l2ork, etc.)

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 11:44 AM, John Harrison wrote:
 I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could be
 included with Pd-extended because it was released under an
 acceptable/compatible license?

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses in its
 license that restrict what it can be used for.  Including pidip in your
 package means your package can no longer be legally distributed as binaries
 since the pidip license terms conflict with the GPL license terms.

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
 I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully
 auto-buildable
 as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.). There
 are a
 number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to get
 all the
 externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon with
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Re: [PD] pidip

2013-02-07 Thread me.grimm
if we take into account:
pix_freeframe (it would be nice/easy if when initiaized it looked in
pd's standard path for a freeframe folder maybe?)
pix_frei0r (same deal)
glsl effects (i never did quite figure out an easy way to chain effects)

but other than effects that could be accomplished with these, what else?

im curious because i have only used pidip a couple of times but have
always been able to find a way to do what i desired in gem... somehow.

m



On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Pagano, Patrick
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 It has a ton of effects that Gem does not have
 There is not really a comparison. Gem does not compete so to speak because 
 Gem does other things supremely well


 -Original Message-
 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of 
 me.grimm
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:08 AM
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at; John Harrison
 Subject: Re: [PD] pidip

 i would wonder. what does pidip got that gem does not?
 and cant those things that it got that gem does not be added to gem via 
 original gpl code?
 why have more than one vid lib
 at least in pdx

 m

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I'm not aware of that.  Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should
 all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code.  The GPL does not allow
 more license restrictions, and the pidip license does just that.  So
 that means that the GPL code included in pidip is still GPL, but the
 code that sevy contributed is under his license, and those two
 licenses conflict. So basically, pidip is not legal to distribute in
 binary form because of the conflicting licenses within itself.

 Whether you choose to ignore copyright law is your decision.  I am
 personally fine with people distributing pidip as its own thing and
 using it with any of my code as long as:

 1) the pidip distro is clearly marked as non-free
 2) pidip is not bundled with my GPLed code (i.e. as part of
 pd-extended, pd-l2ork, etc.)

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 11:44 AM, John Harrison wrote:
 I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could
 be included with Pd-extended because it was released under an
 acceptable/compatible license?

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses
 in its license that restrict what it can be used for.  Including
 pidip in your package means your package can no longer be legally
 distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms conflict with the 
 GPL license terms.

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
 I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully
 auto-buildable
 as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.).
 There
 are a
 number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to
 get
 all the
 externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon
 with
 these
 enhancements...

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Re: [PD] managing freeframe and frei0r plugins WAS: pidip

2013-02-07 Thread me.grimm
pix_freeframe will load a plugin if it in the standard Pd path ... yes

BUT thats kind of messy no?

my ideal solution would be all freeframe (and frei0r) plugins would be
in a folder called freeframe and frei0r respectively in the
standard path.

i have always, when building a project, just put freeframe plus in my
project folder and used [declare] but i think for beginer students,
for example, haveing a folder in std path would make more sense...

but i wonder can a single object declare a new path when initialized
such as pd-extended/freeframe without the actual use of [declare] in a
patch or when pd is started? idk...

m



On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I don't use any of this stuff, but I'm happy help make it easy to use plugins.
  I imagine that pix_freeframe and pix_frei0r search the standard Pd path for
 plugins, or if not, could be made to without too much work.

 What are the particular issues there?

 .hc

 On 02/07/2013 01:02 PM, me.grimm wrote:
 if we take into account:
 pix_freeframe (it would be nice/easy if when initiaized it looked in
 pd's standard path for a freeframe folder maybe?)
 pix_frei0r (same deal)
 glsl effects (i never did quite figure out an easy way to chain effects)

 but other than effects that could be accomplished with these, what else?

 im curious because i have only used pidip a couple of times but have
 always been able to find a way to do what i desired in gem... somehow.

 m



 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Pagano, Patrick
 p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 It has a ton of effects that Gem does not have
 There is not really a comparison. Gem does not compete so to speak because 
 Gem does other things supremely well


 -Original Message-
 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of 
 me.grimm
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:08 AM
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at; John Harrison
 Subject: Re: [PD] pidip

 i would wonder. what does pidip got that gem does not?
 and cant those things that it got that gem does not be added to gem via 
 original gpl code?
 why have more than one vid lib
 at least in pdx

 m

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:

 I'm not aware of that.  Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip should
 all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code.  The GPL does not allow
 more license restrictions, and the pidip license does just that.  So
 that means that the GPL code included in pidip is still GPL, but the
 code that sevy contributed is under his license, and those two
 licenses conflict. So basically, pidip is not legal to distribute in
 binary form because of the conflicting licenses within itself.

 Whether you choose to ignore copyright law is your decision.  I am
 personally fine with people distributing pidip as its own thing and
 using it with any of my code as long as:

 1) the pidip distro is clearly marked as non-free
 2) pidip is not bundled with my GPLed code (i.e. as part of
 pd-extended, pd-l2ork, etc.)

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 11:44 AM, John Harrison wrote:
 I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could
 be included with Pd-extended because it was released under an
 acceptable/compatible license?

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has clauses
 in its license that restrict what it can be used for.  Including
 pidip in your package means your package can no longer be legally
 distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms conflict with the 
 GPL license terms.

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
 I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully
 auto-buildable
 as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.).
 There
 are a
 number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to
 get
 all the
 externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon
 with
 these
 enhancements...

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Re: [PD] managing freeframe and frei0r plugins WAS: pidip

2013-02-07 Thread me.grimm
 Currently in Gem, there is not pix_frei0r,

although i have not used it, i see a [pix_frei0r] in my install. pdx 43.4 osx

 so again a [pix_effectTV], would be very desirable as well

yeah some of those effects look pretty fun...

m



On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Pagano, Patrick
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 One should be able to cycle through both freeframe and frei0r plugins without 
 having to call it specifically
 Currently in Gem, there is not pix_frei0r, I would love if there was but 
 there are over 100 plugins and there should be a number selector to select 
 which one for example:
 [number 1-x]
 |
 [pix_frei0r]
 |
 [pix_film]

 And the same for pix_freeframe instead of for example
 Having to do

 [pix_freeframe bloom]

 Also one of the nicest features of pidip is the porting of effectTV effects
 http://effectv.sourceforge.net/

 so again a [pix_effectTV], would be very desirable as well


 -Original Message-
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [mailto:h...@at.or.at]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:09 PM
 To: me.grimm
 Cc: Pagano, Patrick; pd-list@iem.at; John Harrison
 Subject: managing freeframe and frei0r plugins WAS: pidip


 I don't use any of this stuff, but I'm happy help make it easy to use plugins.
  I imagine that pix_freeframe and pix_frei0r search the standard Pd path for 
 plugins, or if not, could be made to without too much work.

 What are the particular issues there?

 .hc

 On 02/07/2013 01:02 PM, me.grimm wrote:
 if we take into account:
 pix_freeframe (it would be nice/easy if when initiaized it looked in
 pd's standard path for a freeframe folder maybe?) pix_frei0r (same
 deal) glsl effects (i never did quite figure out an easy way to chain
 effects)

 but other than effects that could be accomplished with these, what else?

 im curious because i have only used pidip a couple of times but have
 always been able to find a way to do what i desired in gem... somehow.

 m



 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Pagano, Patrick
 p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 It has a ton of effects that Gem does not have There is not really a
 comparison. Gem does not compete so to speak because Gem does other
 things supremely well


 -Original Message-
 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On
 Behalf Of me.grimm
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:08 AM
 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at; John Harrison
 Subject: Re: [PD] pidip

 i would wonder. what does pidip got that gem does not?
 and cant those things that it got that gem does not be added to gem via 
 original gpl code?
 why have more than one vid lib
 at least in pdx

 m

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:

 I'm not aware of that.  Perhaps you're thinking about how pidip
 should all be GPL, since it is based on GPL code.  The GPL does not
 allow more license restrictions, and the pidip license does just
 that.  So that means that the GPL code included in pidip is still
 GPL, but the code that sevy contributed is under his license, and
 those two licenses conflict. So basically, pidip is not legal to
 distribute in binary form because of the conflicting licenses within 
 itself.

 Whether you choose to ignore copyright law is your decision.  I am
 personally fine with people distributing pidip as its own thing and
 using it with any of my code as long as:

 1) the pidip distro is clearly marked as non-free
 2) pidip is not bundled with my GPLed code (i.e. as part of
 pd-extended, pd-l2ork, etc.)

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 11:44 AM, John Harrison wrote:
 I thought there was an earlier version of PiDiP which was and could
 be included with Pd-extended because it was released under an
 acceptable/compatible license?

 On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner 
 h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Just be aware that pidip is not free software because it has
 clauses in its license that restrict what it can be used for.
 Including pidip in your package means your package can no longer
 be legally distributed as binaries since the pidip license terms 
 conflict with the GPL license terms.

 .hc

 On 02/06/2013 09:27 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
 I just finished cleaning up both pdp and pidip libs to be fully
 auto-buildable
 as part of pd-l2ork (including freenect, artoolkit, opencv, etc.).
 There
 are a
 number of packages you need to install from launchpad in order to
 get
 all the
 externals to build. Stay tuned for the next release coming soon
 with
 these
 enhancements...

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Re: [PD] file format for GEM

2013-02-04 Thread me.grimm
 Also, I selected JPEG-Photo using the program MPEGStreamclip at %100

this actually worked pretty decent. thanks for the tip!

 I assume JPEG-Photo is MJPEG: The video file gets so large, because you

might someone know: what is the difference between photo-jpeg and
motion-jpeg? i am assuming from reading around the web that they are
the same thing... but maybe not?


m



On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Thomas Mayer tho...@residuum.org wrote:
 Hi,

 please respond to the list, as others may help in answering your
 follow-up questions, and / or may benefit from the conversation.0

 On 03.02.2013 21:49, Stephan Elliot Perez wrote:
 Thanks. I have no idea what a bash script is or what to do with it, but I
 will read through the thread...

 If you use Linux or Mac OS X, bash is usually installed on your system.
 It is a command line interface and can be used for scripting.
 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_%28Unix_shell%29)

 This particular script is nothing fancy, and I have made it mostly to
 remind the parameters for mencoder.

 Also, I selected JPEG-Photo using the program MPEGStreamclip at %100
 quality and it produces quite a large file. With auto, the CPU goes over
 90, but if I drag up or down on the framerate's number box, it stays at
 around 30-40...

 I assume JPEG-Photo is MJPEG: The video file gets so large, because you
 store a JPEG for each frame instead of full image for keyframes only and
 then changes for subsequent frames as do other video codecs (rough
 explanation). [pix_film] can then read each frame as a JPEG and does not
 need to find the last keyframe and apply the changes to it, so playback
 should be possible with lower CPU usage.

 Please tell us some information about your system, i.e. CPU, graphic
 card, operating system etc., maybe someone with a similar setup can
 respond with further advice for optimisation.

 Hth,
 Thomas
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd vanilla 0.44-2 (update to fix denormal behavior for Raspberry Pi)

2013-02-03 Thread me.grimm
what would be the best practice for installing this?

of course i could cd /to/pd/bin/  ./pd

but better yet just pd from terminal would be swanky

and maybe not just run pd from ~/Desktop or ~/ or whatever.

how difficult to just get this version in the raspian repo so we can
all just do apt-get?

m

On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:40 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:
 Hi all,

 This is only of interest to Raspberry Pi users - I've fixed the denormal
 problem Katja reported and recompiled - you can get that and the new sources
 from the usual sources:

 http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm

 or

 git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/pure-data

 cheers
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Re: [PD] file format for GEM

2013-02-03 Thread me.grimm
I have always used 'photo-jpeg'
Maybe try that?

For those on osx:
Unfortunately handbrake does not compress for that.
I get students to compress from FCP or iMovie on the mac. Also apparently the 
new FCP x requires compressor (extra 50$) to compress to pjpeg. I am also 
curious to know an open-souce compression solution on Mac optimized for gem 
playback if someone here might know. Preferably with the ease of handbrake.

m

On Feb 3, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Stephan Elliot Perez 
dreamoftheshoreofanotherwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings,
 I am just starting to use GEM and am having a problem with video 
 playback using pix_film. The CPU goes through the roof and the video 
 naturally lags. My original video clips were in .MTS (panasonic, 1920 x 1080) 
 format. I then converted them into .mp4 (Codecs: H.264, AAC) using Handbrake 
 and then into .mov (Codecs: MPEG-4 Video) using MPEGstream. 
 Are the codecs the problem or the video quality/file size the 
 problem? What do you suggest I do?
 
 Best regards,
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Re: [PD] Versions of PD for RPI

2013-02-02 Thread me.grimm
yeah that worked. system is now responsive.

now i can not choose an audio device in audio settings. its just blankness.

m

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 That's a correct way of installing the direct download.  You can also use
 apt.puredata.info for raspbian.

 This is the first feedback I've gotten for the RPi build.  I don't have an
 RPi, so I haven't tested it.  My guess is that its barfing on loading Gem.
 Try running it like this:

 pd-extended -noprefs

 That'll prevent it from loading libraries by default.

 .hc

 On 01/31/2013 09:49 AM, me.grimm wrote:
 Good idea:
 http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/

 has anyone tried this? i do:

 sudo dpkg -i Pd-extended-0.43.4-etc-etc.deb

 which gives me a lot of errors meeting dependencies. so i do:

 sudo apt-get -y -f install

 thats from the direct download.

 when started pd-extended (either from terminal or menu) maxes entire
 system and i have to unplug and restart rpi.

 maybe im just installing it the wrong way? or maybe im just the first
 to test on an actual rpi?

 m

 On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at 
 wrote:


 Good idea:
 http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/

 .hc

 On 01/28/2013 06:37 PM, me.grimm wrote:
 So what version are we supposed to be using? Im looking at this past
 week and there are:

 katjas version
 millers version
 hans pd-extended (theres like 3 different ones)
 the sudo apt-get install version (yes old although haw can this be most 
 recent?)
 my own compiled version that doesnt have any recent katja/miller changes

 can we post links to all versions on wiki?

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Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-01-31 Thread me.grimm
Yup. No go on that one. Just with speed 1 does it work well.

M

On Jan 31, 2013, at 3:32 AM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Did you try without slowing down the USB ?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Pierre.
 
 2013/1/31 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 
 Here's an idea: maybe each person maintains a my setup page with all the
 relevant details.  Then from that, more concise list can be built.  I think
 that just having a list on the front page will rapidly get hard to read.
 
 To add your own Wiki Page, just name it in brackets, like [my sweet custom 
 RPi
 setup], then save the page.  Then click on that link, and it should give you 
 a
 new page.
 
 .hc
 
 On 01/30/2013 07:31 PM, me.grimm wrote:
  i just tested this card:
 
  Logitech USB To 3.5mm Jack Audio Adapter ASIN: B0058P0I2C
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058P0I2C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
 
  w/ dwc_otg.speed=1 in /boot/cmdline.txt
 
  works between 10-20ms with no clicks with adc~ running various patches
  from manual (reverb, octave.divider, etc)
 
  also works in conjunction with my edimax wifi adapter + vnc
  screensharing (no need for ethernet cable)
 
  i added it and the beringer to the wiki. others should be added as
  discovered
 
  http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/FrontPage
 
 
  m
 
  On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Peter P. p8...@aol.com wrote:
  * Robert Grah smilingmolec...@web.de [2013-01-29 13:30]:
  Hallo,
 
  does someone has experiences with M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R or RME 
  multiface or other devices with 8 or more channels?
  Can the PI handle so much channels?
  The HDSP/Multiface solutions require a pci pcie pcmcia or express card
  slot.
  best, P
 
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Re: [PD] Versions of PD for RPI

2013-01-31 Thread me.grimm
 Good idea:
 http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/

has anyone tried this? i do:

sudo dpkg -i Pd-extended-0.43.4-etc-etc.deb

which gives me a lot of errors meeting dependencies. so i do:

sudo apt-get -y -f install

thats from the direct download.

when started pd-extended (either from terminal or menu) maxes entire
system and i have to unplug and restart rpi.

maybe im just installing it the wrong way? or maybe im just the first
to test on an actual rpi?

m

On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:


 Good idea:
 http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/

 .hc

 On 01/28/2013 06:37 PM, me.grimm wrote:
 So what version are we supposed to be using? Im looking at this past
 week and there are:

 katjas version
 millers version
 hans pd-extended (theres like 3 different ones)
 the sudo apt-get install version (yes old although haw can this be most 
 recent?)
 my own compiled version that doesnt have any recent katja/miller changes

 can we post links to all versions on wiki?

 m


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Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-01-31 Thread me.grimm
i just tried a cheap-o mic but im assuming line-in would be the same
no? i mean it was a passive mic so what the difference would be
between that and a direct guitar line, for example, i do not know.

again, i ordered like 7 or 8 of these cheap-o line ins. ill test them
as they get delivered and report back.

yes! i know of this
http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_Sound_Cards but not all
of these test well with pd i am assuming by all the recent sound card
crackling probs. also there are more that have not been tested or/and
have been but not listed here im sure

m

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres
por...@gmail.com wrote:
 does it work for line input or just mic?
 thanks!

 Message: 1
 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:31:04 -0500
 From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
 Subject: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user
 experience)
 To: Peter P. p8...@aol.com
 Cc: Pd-list@iem.at
 Message-ID:

 CACE5Q14VcCKKd9PM+6Ppm7g=_bkg6fpfz5uoaufmgqe3qj7...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1


 i just tested this card:

 Logitech USB To 3.5mm Jack Audio Adapter ASIN: B0058P0I2C
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058P0I2C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

 w/ dwc_otg.speed=1 in /boot/cmdline.txt

 works between 10-20ms with no clicks with adc~ running various patches
 from manual (reverb, octave.divider, etc)

 also works in conjunction with my edimax wifi adapter + vnc
 screensharing (no need for ethernet cable)

 i added it and the beringer to the wiki. others should be added as
 discovered

 http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/FrontPage


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Re: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-01-31 Thread me.grimm
 trying any of the cards from DealExtreme?

no no all.  just the ones on amazon. i submit my receipts to the uni
so they pay me back. the students can use what ever i get that doesnt
work.

BTW. if you write a basic intro guide that a 1st or 2nd year student
can follow (in english :)) ill use it in my class

m

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres
por...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's great, can't wait till you try them all, it'd be just too expensive
 for me to import them all and try here, so I'll wait for the winner. Are you
 trying any of the cards from DealExtreme?

 cheers

 2013/1/31 me.grimm megr...@gmail.com

 i just tried a cheap-o mic but im assuming line-in would be the same
 no? i mean it was a passive mic so what the difference would be
 between that and a direct guitar line, for example, i do not know.

 again, i ordered like 7 or 8 of these cheap-o line ins. ill test them
 as they get delivered and report back.

 yes! i know of this
 http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_Sound_Cards but not all
 of these test well with pd i am assuming by all the recent sound card
 crackling probs. also there are more that have not been tested or/and
 have been but not listed here im sure

 m

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Alexandre Torres Porres
 por...@gmail.com wrote:
  does it work for line input or just mic?
  thanks!
 
  Message: 1
  Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 19:31:04 -0500
  From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
  Subject: [PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user
  experience)
  To: Peter P. p8...@aol.com
  Cc: Pd-list@iem.at
  Message-ID:
 
  CACE5Q14VcCKKd9PM+6Ppm7g=_bkg6fpfz5uoaufmgqe3qj7...@mail.gmail.com
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 
  i just tested this card:
 
  Logitech USB To 3.5mm Jack Audio Adapter ASIN: B0058P0I2C
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058P0I2C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00
 
  w/ dwc_otg.speed=1 in /boot/cmdline.txt
 
  works between 10-20ms with no clicks with adc~ running various patches
  from manual (reverb, octave.divider, etc)
 
  also works in conjunction with my edimax wifi adapter + vnc
  screensharing (no need for ethernet cable)
 
  i added it and the beringer to the wiki. others should be added as
  discovered
 
  http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/FrontPage
 
 
  m



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[PD] Working RPI Soundcards (was raspberry pi user experience)

2013-01-30 Thread me.grimm
i just tested this card:

Logitech USB To 3.5mm Jack Audio Adapter ASIN: B0058P0I2C
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058P0I2C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00

w/ dwc_otg.speed=1 in /boot/cmdline.txt

works between 10-20ms with no clicks with adc~ running various patches
from manual (reverb, octave.divider, etc)

also works in conjunction with my edimax wifi adapter + vnc
screensharing (no need for ethernet cable)

i added it and the beringer to the wiki. others should be added as
discovered

http://puredata.info/docs/raspberry-pi/FrontPage


m

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 * Robert Grah smilingmolec...@web.de [2013-01-29 13:30]:
 Hallo,

 does someone has experiences with M-Audio Fast Track Ultra 8R or RME 
 multiface or other devices with 8 or more channels?
 Can the PI handle so much channels?
 The HDSP/Multiface solutions require a pci pcie pcmcia or express card
 slot.
 best, P

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[PD] Versions of PD for RPI

2013-01-28 Thread me.grimm
So what version are we supposed to be using? Im looking at this past
week and there are:

katjas version
millers version
hans pd-extended (theres like 3 different ones)
the sudo apt-get install version (yes old although haw can this be most recent?)
my own compiled version that doesnt have any recent katja/miller changes

can we post links to all versions on wiki?

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Re: [PD] raspberry pi user experience

2013-01-27 Thread me.grimm
i basically just ordered ever cheapo (30$) usb stereo soundcard there
is on amazon. ill get the uni to pay.

i was having the same issue as katja. no keyboard, wifi, etc with usb speed 1

ill let the group know if any of the usb soundcards i ordered work
with speed 2 (hopefully) or speed 1 if i can find a usb 1.0
keyboard...

cheers
m


On Sun, Jan 27, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
 i put it in front of everything :

 dwc_otg.speed=1 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200
 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4
 elevator=deadline rootwait

 cheers
 c

 Le 27/01/2013 11:42, katja a écrit :

 Hello,

 Some people seem to have result with setting lower USB speed on the
 Pi, but when I try this, the Pi doesn't even respond to keyboard
 anymore. Checking /boot/cmdline.txt with another computer, I'm sure it
 is not due to a typo. But the order of settings may be important?
 Could anyone copy the full text of /boot/cmdline.txt for me, if you
 have keyboard working with lowered USB speed? (I'm not talking about
 good audio yet).

 Thanks,
 Katja


 On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote:

 Message to self: it seems that one has to wait for updated RPi USB
 firmware/drivers to get USB 2.0 audio going.
 Obviously the isochronous transfer mode as used by audio interfaces is
 currently broken.
 gr~~~


 2013/1/26 Thomas Grill g...@g.org


 Hi all,
 for my USB audio class 2.0 device Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6
 i
 can't report such good news.
 There is constant irregular crackling, not only with Pd but also with
 aplay etc. It seems related to USB bandwidth, since turning on and off
 the
 inputs in Pd changes crackling frequency. The dwc_otg.speed setting is
 not
 usable for me, since the device is dependent on USB 2.0 operation.
 Any experiences with USB 2.0 audio devices under ALSA/rpi?
 thanks,
 gr~~~


 2013/1/26 Cyrille Henry c...@chnry.net


 hello,

 I just install raspbian release and update it. then install pd 0.44.1
 (without any specific optimisation flag)

 I made the standard optimisation :
 * - rtprio 99
 * - memlock 10
 in /etc/security/limits.conf

 and
 dwc_otg.speed=1
 in /boot/cmdline.txt
 as suggested by miller

 I use a uca222 beringher (that cost about 20 or 25€) sound card.
 trying the test audio and midi, there is no click with 10ms audio
 buffer
 (with adc~ enable).

 this is with usb keyboard / mouse combo plugged and graphical interface
 (for the system and for pd).

 without X, audiobuf can be as low as 5ms

 having a usb keyboard did not change anything for me.

 i'm very happy

 cheers
 c

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Re: [PD] remote desktop on the Pi and other questions about it

2013-01-27 Thread me.grimm
I'm away from my computer so I could probably tell you more tomorrow.

I'm using tightvnc

http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server

You can set it up so you can use screen sharing on Mac to have your rip 
desktop on your Mac.

That's what I do. It's different than what millers doing with x-forwarding.

Also with this you can get the rpi to show up in your finder side bar.

Hope that helps!
M


On Jan 27, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Pi people, I just got one of these to mess with, getting it to run the 
 OS was very simple, need help with other stuff.
 
 What do you recommend for remote desktopping (controlling the Pi via a 
 laptop, by having the laptop's keyboard/trackpad as input and getting the 
 screen to show what's going on).
 
 I know there's something called VNC around, but it seems to come in different 
 softwares, which one(s) have you been using. Or, better put, just about 
 anyone works?
 
 I got a macbook air I'd like to use that way, by the way, so I need to run 
 from a MAC OS system.
 
 To see if I got this straight, all the hardware you need to plug them 
 together is a crossover ethernet cable, right?
 
 That way, can the Pi also feed from the internet I'm getting into my macbook 
 air vi wi-fi while it's being remotely controlled by the same laptop via the 
 same cable?
 
 I guess that's it for now.
 
 I hope we can have sometime soon a nice page with several info on how to run 
 Pd in the Pi in many ways. I could help on writting this kind of tutorial
 
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Re: [PD] remote desktop on the Pi and other questions about it

2013-01-27 Thread me.grimm
Off the top of my head

System prefs - sharing

I think it's Internet sharing

Share your Macs wifi - Ethernet

That should work for cable connect.

I've been using this mini edimax wifi dongle and having it auto connect on boot 
to my local network. Then doing the share screen vnc thing...

Have fun!!

m


On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:16 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote:

 nice, that's one of the things that came uo, and apparently there's a nica 
 guide on it: 
 http://4dc5.com/2012/06/12/setting-up-vnc-on-raspberry-pi-for-mac-access/ 
 
 that should do, right? If the link above is very helpful, we could reference 
 it in the Pd site. This was very helpful too to install it 
 http://lifehacker.com/5976912/a-beginners-guide-to-diying-with-the-raspberry-pi
 
 I have the pi, but no way to plug it in with monitors, ethernet, mouse and 
 keyboard yet, tomorrow I'll properly try it out.
 
 Now, what about still being able to use the internet on the Pi while 
 connected to the laptop? Can it feed through the same cable, or do I need to 
 have some wi-fi receptor in the USB?
 
 How do you do it Mark?
 
 Cheers
 Alex
 
 2013/1/27 me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
 I'm away from my computer so I could probably tell you more tomorrow.
 
 I'm using tightvnc
 
 http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server
 
 You can set it up so you can use screen sharing on Mac to have your rip 
 desktop on your Mac.
 
 That's what I do. It's different than what millers doing with x-forwarding.
 
 Also with this you can get the rpi to show up in your finder side bar.
 
 Hope that helps!
 M
 
 
 On Jan 27, 2013, at 7:40 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Pi people, I just got one of these to mess with, getting it to run 
 the OS was very simple, need help with other stuff.
 
 What do you recommend for remote desktopping (controlling the Pi via a 
 laptop, by having the laptop's keyboard/trackpad as input and getting the 
 screen to show what's going on).
 
 I know there's something called VNC around, but it seems to come in 
 different softwares, which one(s) have you been using. Or, better put, just 
 about anyone works?
 
 I got a macbook air I'd like to use that way, by the way, so I need to run 
 from a MAC OS system.
 
 To see if I got this straight, all the hardware you need to plug them 
 together is a crossover ethernet cable, right?
 
 That way, can the Pi also feed from the internet I'm getting into my 
 macbook air vi wi-fi while it's being remotely controlled by the same 
 laptop via the same cable?
 
 I guess that's it for now.
 
 I hope we can have sometime soon a nice page with several info on how to 
 run Pd in the Pi in many ways. I could help on writting this kind of 
 tutorial
 
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[PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path

2013-01-25 Thread me.grimm
i tried declare like so:

[declare -stdpath /Users/megrimm/Desktop]

but that didn't work.

is there anyway to load gui plugins other than dropping them in
~/Library/Pd , etc ?

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Re: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path

2013-01-25 Thread me.grimm
 plugins can be loaded from the user-set path because I didn't see a reason why
 someone would want to do that.

that would be so one might have a different gui look for each of their
patchs. or could distribute a gui-plug specific to their patch with
their patches, etc.

in my case im using the gui-plugs to make my patch look like some
absrtacted, glitch, unusable mess... but then if i leave it in the
standerd path every patch i would open would be like that there for if
i could [declare] the path to the gui-plug then i wouldn't have to
worry about it. only that one patch would have those properties

 As for the prefs pane for loading libs at startup, that is bad behavior that
 should be discouraged.  Libs should be loaded in the patch using [import] or
 [declare -lib].

i agree hence the in patch gui-plugin loading

h


m

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:
 On 01/25/2013 03:31 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 - Original Message -

 From: me.grimm megr...@gmail.com
 To: pd_list Listserve pd-list@iem.at
 Cc:
 Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:25 AM
 Subject: [PD] Loading Gui-Plugin in a Directory Other than in Standard Path

 i tried declare like so:

 [declare -stdpath /Users/megrimm/Desktop]

 but that didn't work.

 is there anyway to load gui plugins other than dropping them in
 ~/Library/Pd , etc ?

 I don't know.

 Hans-- is there a translation page that shows the new way to do
 everything in Pd-extended that used to be done through the
 path and startup dialogs?

 I guess first of all-- is it possible to do everything on the current
 release that could be done on the last, such as the behavior
 in question above?

 You can set paths in the preferences still.  I never tested whether GUI
 plugins can be loaded from the user-set path because I didn't see a reason why
 someone would want to do that.

 As for the prefs pane for loading libs at startup, that is bad behavior that
 should be discouraged.  Libs should be loaded in the patch using [import] or
 [declare -lib].

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[PD] gui elements documentation / list

2013-01-24 Thread me.grimm
i finally have a chance to play around with the gui-plugin stuff. using
tkcanvas itemconfigure im playing around with changing the look of my
patches in performance mode. question: is there a list / documentation of
the gui elements? other than reading over the pd-gui tcl code?

without knowing much i was doing things like:

$tkcanvas itemconfigure text -fill red -font Helvetica -size 16

but -size gives me error

so maybe there is something more other than a trial and error approach or
use of css knowledge which obviously does not completely translate.


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Re: [PD] gui elements documentation / list

2013-01-24 Thread me.grimm
 You need to specify the point or pixel size as part of the font:
 $tkcanvas itemconfigure text -fill red -font {Helvetica 16}  ;# points
 $tkcanvas itemconfigure text -fill red -font {Helvetica -16}  ;# negative
is
 pixels

ah thats helpful thank you!

it might be too much but how about turning on/off gui-plugins directly from
a patch by sending messages to pd?

also i did something like:

 proc RandomInteger1 {max} {
 return [expr {int(rand()*$max) + 1}]
 }

to randomize font size etc. right now when i open my patch i have to click
on and off the patch to refresh is there just a refresh pd command i
can send so i count refresh with a metro for example to create little
animated randomized object boxes?

i thought you could send a [;pd refresh{ or something like that but i cant
find it. am i crazy?

m


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Pd uses almost all of the available widgets in Tk:
 http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/Keywords/W.htm#widget

 The 'text' widget doesn't respond to -size:
 http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TkCmd/text.htm

 You need to specify the point or pixel size as part of the font:
 $tkcanvas itemconfigure text -fill red -font {Helvetica 16}  ;# points
 $tkcanvas itemconfigure text -fill red -font {Helvetica -16}  ;# negative
 is
 pixels

 You can also create a 'font' to have that setting in one spot:
 http://www.tcl.tk/man/tcl8.5/TkCmd/font.htm

 Please add anything you find useful to the wiki:
 http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins/GUIPlugins/

 .hc

 On 01/24/2013 04:06 PM, me.grimm wrote:
  i finally have a chance to play around with the gui-plugin stuff. using
  tkcanvas itemconfigure im playing around with changing the look of my
  patches in performance mode. question: is there a list / documentation of
  the gui elements? other than reading over the pd-gui tcl code?
 
  without knowing much i was doing things like:
 
  $tkcanvas itemconfigure text -fill red -font Helvetica -size 16
 
  but -size gives me error
 
  so maybe there is something more other than a trial and error approach or
  use of css knowledge which obviously does not completely translate.
 
 
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Re: [PD] leap motion controller

2013-01-18 Thread me.grimm
 I'm also in the developers-program.

so PD object in the works? :)

i think ill pre-order one...

m



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 I'm also in the developers-program.





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[PD] leap motion controller

2013-01-17 Thread me.grimm
anyone seen this?

https://leapmotion.com/

looks great for use with pd?

pd + minority report


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Re: [PD] gem opengl-es by dmotd

2012-12-28 Thread me.grimm
thats too bad because it seems like quite a bit of work. i just cloned
master from git on my rpi and started following these instructions:

http://pandorawiki.org/Porting_to_GLES_from_GL

but realize i cant devote the amount of time it would take. maybe someone
else though

i tried to email dmotd with no response.

heres my terminal output from the suggested shell script:
http://pastebin.com/HdvENgSG


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  so whatever happened to this? its been asked i think recently with
  not answer afaik. there was this initial discussion here:
 
 
 http://markmail.org/message/ermo45obdxmad5b6#query:+page:1+mid:2m33uflrdcciugat+state:results
 
   was the code ever put on github as the thread suggests? or
  somewhere else?

 i haven't seen it.
 i would like to.

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Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd

2012-12-21 Thread me.grimm
hey all thanks for the tips!

nicolas: your phasemeter looks great. i will use that.

but what is a riaa filter then? is there an implementation in pd? from eds
link it looks like there is two such curves. one original RIAA curve and
the other as RIAA/IEC curve.

btw nicolas your website looks super great and slick. im curious on the
topography record you made. any for sale? sound samples?

ed: thanks for reminding me of your metastudio project. i just revisited
and remembered all the nice stuff you had going on. were not you promoting
a version 4 at one point? what happened to that?

hopefully ill get something cutting over break before the next semester
starts!

m

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 6:57 AM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 These are some abstractions I have made that do some of what you are
 asking...the compressor~ is vanilla.
 Mastering is primarily about developing golden ears but you also need to
 take into account the RIAA curve: http://www.tanker.se/lidstrom/riaa.htm

 Remember it's mechanical - I understand that once the RIAA is taken into
 account, the most pressing issue is bass - extreme bass and the needle
 jumps, too much and the track is too wide so you get less time. If it's set
 up wrong then tracks will overlap (but there could be some interesting
 jumping record experiments in there.

 Best,
 Ed

 Gemnotes-0.2: Live music notation for Pure Data, now with dynamics!
 http://sharktracks.co.uk/



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  From: Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com
  To: pd-list@iem.at
  Cc:
  Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 21:23
  Subject: Re: [PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd
 
 
 
  On 19/12/12 03:10, me.grimm wrote:
   does anyone know much about mastering? i dont.
 
   anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of
   doing something like this:
 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0
 
  Very interesting--- thanks for sharing, I couldn't resist noting (and
  continuously concentrating) on the ground loop (maybe empathised by the
  woofer..) I'm not totally sure that was intended though ..
 
   which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was
   thinking just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the
 best
   sound maybe i could run it through some kind of mastering
  patch. has
   anyone made such a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent
   masters right from PD? I would think something like:
 
  Emulating it as well? I know you lose all the materic thing, but it
  could be fun.
 
  The voice as heard in the video has something fascinating, it would be
  interesting to find out what modern digital audio compressions (data
  such as mp3, ogg etc. can create similar suggetions...)
 
  Lorenzo.
 
   [equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization
   example which im not sure i would know how to use for this
   |
   [unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one
 no?
   |
   [expander~] ???
   |
   [exciter~]
   |
   [zexy/limiter~]
   |
   [hip~ 40]
   |
   [lop~ 16000]
   |
   [dac~]
 
 
   but i might just make a mess with this
 
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[PD] gem opengl-es by dmotd

2012-12-18 Thread me.grimm
so whatever happened to this? its been asked i think recently with not
answer afaik. there was this initial discussion here:

http://markmail.org/message/ermo45obdxmad5b6#query:+page:1+mid:2m33uflrdcciugat+state:results

was the code ever put on github as the thread suggests? or somewhere else?

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[PD] mastering to vinyl live w/ pd

2012-12-18 Thread me.grimm
does anyone know much about mastering? i dont.

anyway i have this record recorder/cutter/lathe and was thinking of doing
something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDnpXVUKXM0

which is funny because i have a similar recorder. although i was thinking
just cutting in real-time straight from PD. but to get the best sound maybe
i could run it through some kind of mastering patch. has anyone made such
a thing or know best to do in terms of getting decent masters right from
PD? I would think something like:

[equilizer~] - but what one? [adaptive/nlms3~]? adaptive_equilization
example which im not sure i would know how to use for this
|
[unauthorized/compressor~] - although there is prob a good vanilla one no?
|
[expander~] ???
|
[exciter~]
|
[zexy/limiter~]
|
[hip~ 40]
|
[lop~ 16000]
|
[dac~]


but i might just make a mess with this

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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-07 Thread me.grimm
yeah i was having the same trouble the couple times i tried this a month or
so ago. no USB devices. did you have it work for you miller on prior
raspbian image?  i remember having to mount the sd card on m laptop to
remove that cmdtxt line to get my keyboard/mouse back but then gave up on
the whole usb 1.1 speed thing.

m

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 ... and I just tried to do the USB slowdown trick again with a newer
 install
 and it... fails to upen any USB devices at all!  So we're not out of the
 woods yet after all.

 cheers
 M

 On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 11:37:06AM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote:
  Hi Miller,
 
  Thank for your reply. This is the thread that made me ask for an update
  here.
 
  Cheers,
 
  Pierre.
 
  2012/12/6 Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu
 
   Hi all -
  
   Here's the thread:
  
  
  
 http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66t=19155p=218405#p218405
  
   ... and the upshot is you have to slow USB down to 1.1 (instead of the
   default
   2.0) to get correct audio input.
  
   The version of Pd I've uploaded (
 http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html)
   is much newer than the stock one that apt-get installs; OTOH the
 apt-get
   one is Pd extended and mine is only vanilla.
  
   cheers
   Miller
  
   On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 10:28:33AM -0500, me.grimm wrote:
I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio
 in
working,
   
wheres the thread?
   
 I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give
 about
audio in,
   
it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i
 see
there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe
 that
will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?
   
i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a
 while
since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back.
 maybe
someone has made head way...
   
m
   
   
   
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   
 Dear list,

 I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on
 the RPi
 lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt
 to
   get
 audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the
 RPi.

 I would like to know in which respects it is different from the
 vanilla
 version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also
 like to
 know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and
 specially
 about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room
 for
 improvement or not).

 In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?

 Cheers,

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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-06 Thread me.grimm
afaik gem needs to be ported to opengl-es to run on the pi. there's a
thread on this topic and i think the port has been done?

http://www.mail-archive.com/gem-dev@iem.at/msg01930.html

here are some specs.

http://elinux.org/RPi_VideoCore_APIs#OpenGL_ES

johannes would know mare obviously


m

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joson.andr...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Interesting question.
 In addition i am very interested in using GEM on Rpi. Is that possible?

 Best

 -j-
 Am 06.12.2012 12:09 schrieb Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com:

 
  Dear list,
 
  I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
 lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get
 audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.
 
  I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
 version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
 know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
 about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
 improvement or not).
 
  In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: [PD] Pd on the Pi : Miller's version

2012-12-06 Thread me.grimm
I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get audio in
working,

wheres the thread?

 I would also like to know if anybody has some feedback to give about
audio in,

it still sounds like shit on my end. what hardware are you using? i see
there has been some improvements on the USB drivers recently. maybe that
will be fixed soon and the issues with audio in will improve?

i would also like to know if anyone has it working well... been a while
since these pi threads were started on this list a few months back. maybe
someone has made head way...

m



On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear list,

 I know that Miller Puckette has been working on improving Pd on the RPi
 lately, and I came upon a thread where he talks about his attempt to get
 audio in working, and mentioned his version of Pd compiled for the RPi.

 I would like to know in which respects it is different from the vanilla
 version one can grab from the Raspbian repository. I would also like to
 know if anybody has some feedback to give about audio in, and specially
 about the latency that can be achieved (and whether there is room for
 improvement or not).

 In short : an update on Pd on the Pi ?

 Cheers,

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Re: [PD] cq2midi – Polyphonic MIDI notes from audio

2012-11-06 Thread me.grimm
 - compile multiple architectures and glue together the resulting dylib using 
 the lipo tool:

 CFLAGS=-arch i386 ./configure --enable-float--enable-shared  make  mv 
 .libs/libfftw3f.3.dylib ./libfftw3f.32.dylib
 CFLAGS=-arch x86_64 ./configure --enable-float --enable-shared   make  
 mv .libs/libfftw3f.3.dylib ./libfftw3f.64.dylib
 lipo ./libfftw3f.32.dylib ./libfftw3f.64.dylib -output 
 .libs/libfftw3f.3.dylib -create
 sudo make install

hey thomas

this is all quite helpful stuff! thanks or that!

cheers
m



On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote:

 Am 02.11.2012 um 15:13 schrieb me.grimm:

 well this here:

 /usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.3.dylib

 doesnt actually exist at all

 instead its here:

 /sw/lib/libfftw3f.3.dylib

 but thats just from the binary you offered and not compiled by me.

 just a small note:
 i don't use fink, but it could have the same problems as macports, namely 
 that the shared libraries installed (like e.g. libfftw3f.dylib) only offer 
 the native code model.
 For 64-bit OSX (= 10.6) this means that 32-bit binaries depending on such 
 libraries can't be loaded.

 Therefore it makes sense to compile a multi-architecture version of FFTW3 
 oneself, for example in the following manner:

 - download FFTW 3.3.x from fftw.org and extract the archive

 - compile multiple architectures and glue together the resulting dylib using 
 the lipo tool:

 CFLAGS=-arch i386 ./configure --enable-float--enable-shared  make  mv 
 .libs/libfftw3f.3.dylib ./libfftw3f.32.dylib
 CFLAGS=-arch x86_64 ./configure --enable-float --enable-shared   make  
 mv .libs/libfftw3f.3.dylib ./libfftw3f.64.dylib
 lipo ./libfftw3f.32.dylib ./libfftw3f.64.dylib -output 
 .libs/libfftw3f.3.dylib -create
 sudo make install


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Re: [PD] cq2midi – Polyphonic MIDI notes from audio

2012-11-02 Thread me.grimm
hi thomas,

so you know. out of the box im getting:

/Users/megrimm/Library/Pd/cq2midi/constantq~.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Users/megrimm/Library/Pd/cq2midi/constantq~.pd_darwin, 10):
Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.3.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/megrimm/Library/Pd/cq2midi/constantq~.pd_darwin
  Reason: image not found
 constantq~ @threshold 0.01 @wndalign 1 @rate -1
... couldn't create

at least with your constantq~.pd_darwin

cheers
m

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 Hi all,
 I just added the cq2midi project to my list of software publications.
 This project tries to analyze a stream of digital audio data into MIDI notes. 
 It does so not from a traditional musicological perspective (f0 analysis or 
 the likes), but rather in a raw fashion, so that “all” predominant 
 frequencies of the spectrum at a certain time are interpreted as MIDI notes. 
 Some filtering options are available to reduce noise.
 I originally designed this software to realize the composition luscinia 
 megarhynchos for computer-controlled carillon, premiered at the Pure Data 
 convention 2011 in Weimar.

 http://g.org/research/software/cq2midi

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Re: [PD] cq2midi – Polyphonic MIDI notes from audio

2012-11-02 Thread me.grimm
well this here:

/usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.3.dylib

doesnt actually exist at all

instead its here:

/sw/lib/libfftw3f.3.dylib

but thats just from the binary you offered and not compiled by me.

the other thing is i had to add [import py] for [pyx. 1 2 noteflt] to load.

thanks!
m


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote:
 Hi,
 i guess that the FFTW3 library you have installed doesn't contain a 32-bit 
 binary.
 gr~~~

 PS. Please let's communicate over the list


 Am 02.11.2012 um 14:46 schrieb me.grimm:

 hi thomas,

 so you know. out of the box im getting:

 /Users/megrimm/Library/Pd/cq2midi/constantq~.pd_darwin:
 dlopen(/Users/megrimm/Library/Pd/cq2midi/constantq~.pd_darwin, 10):
 Library not loaded: /usr/local/lib/libfftw3f.3.dylib
  Referenced from: /Users/megrimm/Library/Pd/cq2midi/constantq~.pd_darwin
  Reason: image not found
 constantq~ @threshold 0.01 @wndalign 1 @rate -1
 ... couldn't create

 at least with your constantq~.pd_darwin

 cheers
 m

 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Thomas Grill g...@g.org wrote:
 Hi all,
 I just added the cq2midi project to my list of software publications.
 This project tries to analyze a stream of digital audio data into MIDI 
 notes. It does so not from a traditional musicological perspective (f0 
 analysis or the likes), but rather in a raw fashion, so that “all” 
 predominant frequencies of the spectrum at a certain time are interpreted 
 as MIDI notes. Some filtering options are available to reduce noise.
 I originally designed this software to realize the composition luscinia 
 megarhynchos for computer-controlled carillon, premiered at the Pure Data 
 convention 2011 in Weimar.

 http://g.org/research/software/cq2midi

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Re: [PD] Browse/Search plugin update

2012-10-31 Thread me.grimm
 was caching anything).  Haven't
 tried on OSX yet

Works quite swell here on 10.7
Thanks!!!
M

On Oct 31, 2012, at 2:12 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Ok, I changed the progress bar and replaced the sluggish
 [lsort -command].  It now responds pretty much instantaneously
 when you start a search:
 
 http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/searchandbrowseplugin/view
 
 
 Earlier when I tested on winxp it initially took about 15 seconds to
 load the search, but then it took around 3 seconds after that (even
 after re-opening Pd, so I don't think it was caching anything).  Haven't
 tried on OSX yet.
 
 -Jonathan
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 10:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [PD] Browse/Search plugin update
 
 
 On 10/30/2012 07:20 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
 I updated my search plugin by adding a progressbar:
 
 http://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/searchandbrowseplugin/view
 
 It also prints out the number of files it searched.  There were some
 reports of a search taking over a minute, but with GNU/Linux and
 winxp I'm getting about 3 seconds for a little over 9,000 docs (I
 think I'm searching two different copies of pd-extended libs so
 that should be well over what you'd typically be searching).  If
 people are getting long searches please start by telling me how
 many files you're searching.  Also, the progressbar updates don't
 start until it's built a list of files and sorted it, so if it's
 taking a long
 time when you search before the progressbar appears then that
 may be the culprit.
 
 Now that the interface updates live I don't really think there's
 much
 need to build an index.  You can start reading the first results
 immediately and even scroll the list as it finishes printing the results.
 (I guess I can also add a Cancel button, too.)
 
 Let me know if there are any bugs.
 
 -Jonathan
 
 Looking very good!  I consider this something everyone should install now.  
 The 
 progress bar is a good enhancement.  I wonder if it could somehow fit in to 
 the 
 GUI elements better somehow.  Its fine how it is, but it seems a little out 
 of 
 place.
 
 Looks like there are some debug messages still in it, I get these when 
 hovering:
 
 filename is 5.reference/all_about_arrays.pd
 basedir is 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.3-extended-20121008.app/Contents/Resources/doc
 filename is 5.reference/loop~-help.pd
 basedir is 
 /Applications/Pd-0.43.3-extended-20121008.app/Contents/Resources/doc
 filename is 5.reference/all_about_arrays.pd
 filelist is 7751
 filelist is 7751
 
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