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Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.commailto:jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.camailto:ma...@artengine.ca,
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It's where you take something like a modern digital computer and do
DSP by using an interface modeled after 30 year-old analog audio
equipment.
Therefore Pd is a technological parody ?
I think a lot of the folks who are disappointed with this being at TED
I said « Therefore Pd is a
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Jean-Marie Adrien wrote:
Hi listA link that might contribute, somehow, to the debate
http://www.jeanmarie-adrien.net/documentaire-inter.htm
Les paramètres d'encodage du vidéo sont mal choisis : on ressent une
pulsation dans la pixélisation qui rend ce vidéo plutôt dur à
On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Onyx Ashanti wrote:
Thanks, it's a great pleasure to have you here.
cheers.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as
a horn
player does, into a looper which I use to layer everything very
quickly into
an arrangement then
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:52:25 +0200
Onyx Ashanti onyxasha...@gmail.com wrote:
I have to practice a few hours everyday with my hands in various dificult
positions, but i think that the stationary horn-stance habit started waning
after about a week and a half
Cos of tiring arms? I discovered
Dope to see you here! I have just started reading the free intro of your book,
Designing sound. Great read so far! Hope to get the book soon!
I have to practice a few hours everyday with my hands in various dificult
positions, but i think that the stationary horn-stance habit started
...@yahoo.com
Certainly could be. :)
Or on the other hand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cuuRG6-IT8
-Jonathan
--- On *Thu, 6/23/11, Tyler Leavitt thecryofl...@gmail.com* wrote:
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Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Jonathan Wilkes
or this?
http://www.hans-w-koch.org/video/trailer.html
(sorry for the selfish plug)
www.hans-w-koch.net
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Certainly could
The fact that he created it on a sequencer in 97 and not on a drumkit in
1963 doesn't make any difference to me.
Ok, but could beatjazz be played in an other way than Onyx did ?
If beatjazz can't be triggered pre-record patterns, it's pity (for me)
that the audience think it is...
By the way, if
Totally agree with you.
A nice illustration of the importance of the context : One of the students
in my school is from Kinshasa. He was in my office one day and i asked him
if he knew Konono N°1. He said yes, i know them, they play a very
traditional kind of music, they are invited to play at
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
If you don't think so, then please tell me what you can do with that
patch that's so musically interesting that it would warrant buying a
modern digital computer instead of a turntable.
Because it takes a lot less room, the sound doesn't have to be
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
If a purpose of audio software is emulation of physical instruments
then I don't think it should be labeled as a technological parody.
Otherwise you could use the argument 'why have a computer when I can
buy a physical instrument' every time?
A
If I was from the BIG TOWN I would be SUAVE and DEBONAIR.
On 6/22/11 5:08 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
Le 22/06/2011 23:02, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :
How does this help?
As an example of current media new dance?
I am unsure.
Please inform me before I start posting Robert Ashley
The only point that#39;s not irrelevant is that you can load up soundfiles
without needing a new physical object for each one.
It#39;s not musically interesting that it takes up less room.
That the patch can become something else is a distraction from the particularly
narrow point I#39;m
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--- On Thu, 6/23/11, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
From: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc
Jonathan, what now seems an unlucky combination of term was not meant as a
derision.
I tried to explain my humble arguments in a couple of extended posts and I
was happy Onyx joined us.
If I failed in being clear I apologize, but I'm happy, as imho, we all
contributed to an interesting discussion.
Onyx, do you think that perhaps all these questions that were raised aboutwhat
exactly you were doing would encourage you to perhaps make yourperformative
movements and means more evident? Or do you think this is notimportant for
your goals?
well right now it is literally the task of creating a
welcome to the list onyx,
i liked your performance, and commend you for getting exposure for it.
actually, that would be Slam! and the answer would be very, but not for
a few years...
my only question is, how annoying must it be to get asked to play Throw Ya
Guns at every gig ;)
--
How long did you practice with that arrangement
of controllers Onyx?
Did you become human cyborg unit six of seven, tertiary adjunct of unimatrix
twelve-O-five? Or was that
machine following you and did you feel confident
enough to jam it a bit, even at TED?
I have to practice a few hours
eheh, I'm glad the concept of technological parody is giving so much to
discuss :)
We should put up a twitter account with the #technologicalparody (kidding)
M
A technological parody ought to be defined by:
1. usage of high-tech hardware to fulfill a low-tech purpose
2. an
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Thanks, it's a great pleasure to have you here.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as a horn
player does, into a looper which I use to layer everything very quickly
into
an arrangement then deconstruct and
Thanks, it's a great pleasure to have you here.
cheers.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as a
horn
player does, into a looper which I use to layer everything very quickly
into
an arrangement then deconstruct and reconstruct on a musically relevant
On 06/21/2011 08:05 AM, Ingo wrote:
All lines are played live. There is no pre-recorded drum loop. He is using
audio looping only. The drums are played note by note.
...
you are right, and after having watched the video another time,
i agree to your observations. (and meanwhile it has been
I don't think an audience really needs to know the intricacies of what
you are doing in order to appreciate a performance like this, but they
do(IMO) need to at least under stand that you ARE doing something and
not just triggering loops.
That said... And this is just my opinion of course, I
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Onyx Ashanti wrote:
The thing is, nobody asks a violin player what he's playing (as somebody
mentioned a few messages ago, sorry for the lack of proper quoting
here), I believe, because these traditional instruments are already
within our culture,
It's not just that,
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 21:36 +0100, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
wrote:
there are many nuances, but I mentioned that as the text in Onyx's video
read: so that beatjazzers become as common as djs.
Do you really need cables everywhere, sensors, a mouthpiece with two
guitar
pickups, a
Hi list,
Whether or not you like his music is a separate question, I think its
very hard to refute that he has musical skill and talent with his
instrument. And that is very rare with new interfaces for musical
expression.
.hc
I totally agree with you but only since he's explained how
--- On Wed, 6/22/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Onyx Ashanti onyxasha...@gmail.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 5:08 PM
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Onyx Ashanti
wrote
...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Olivier Baudu lamouraupeu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Cc: pd-list@iem.at, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 6:59 PM
Hi list,
Whether or not you like his music
...@gmail.com* wrote:
From: Olivier Baudu lamouraupeu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
Cc: pd-list@iem.at, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 6:59 PM
Hi list,
Whether or not you like his music
the correct answer is: c.
-Jonathan
--- On Wed, 6/22/11, Cody Loyd codyl...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Cody Loyd codyl...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 8:32 PM
I don't think anyone actually said that sampling was a technological
May I suggest.
http://www.amazon.com/Liveness-Performance-Mediatized-Philip-Auslander/dp/0
415196906
pp
On 6/22/11 11:08 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011, Onyx Ashanti wrote:
The thing is, nobody asks a violin player what he's playing (as
somebody
I second the suggestion. I'd also add this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Living-Electronic-Music-Simon-Emmerson/dp/0754655482/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1308773106sr=8-1
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Pagano, Patrick
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote:
May I suggest.
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
You're right, no one ever said that. Even me.
Did you actually look at the patch? It is a technological parody of record
scratching.
It perfectly fits the definition given on this list. If you don't think
so, then
They have little TEDx events here AT UF in florida and they are basically
digital Like button shows.
People want to be wowed also want to look over your shoulder and
understand what you are doing so they may immediately dismiss it.
I get the question often when some Digital bad-ass leans over to
wow,
there are impressive stuff in this video.
thanks for sharing it.
cheers
Cyrille
Le 21/06/2011 18:29, Jean-Marie Adrien a écrit :
Hi list
A link that might contribute, somehow, to the debate
http://www.jeanmarie-adrien.net/documentaire-inter.htm
cheers
JmA
Le 21 juin 11 à 17:33, Andy
How does this help?
As an example of current media new dance?
I am unsure.
Please inform me before I start posting Robert Ashley clips.
On 6/22/11 4:57 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
wow,
there are impressive stuff in this video.
thanks for sharing it.
cheers
Cyrille
Le 21/06/2011
Le 22/06/2011 23:02, Pagano, Patrick a écrit :
How does this help?
As an example of current media new dance?
I am unsure.
Please inform me before I start posting Robert Ashley clips.
if Robert Ashley use sensors and pd, please do.
c
On 6/22/11 4:57 PM, cyrille henryc...@chnry.net
that have to do with technology. As a term of
derision
I think it's confusing/confused.
-Jonathan
--- On Wed, 6/22/11, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd
alan.brooker2...@gmail.com* wrote:
From: ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at, Cody Loyd codyl...@gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 10:44 PM
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jonathan
Certainly could be. :)
Or on the other hand:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cuuRG6-IT8
-Jonathan
--- On Thu, 6/23/11, Tyler Leavitt thecryofl...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Tyler Leavitt thecryofl...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: ALAN
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
martin brinkmann
Gesendet: Montag, 20. Juni 2011 22:12
An: pd-list@iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
On 06/20/2011 01:43 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ingo,
thanks
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:05:01 +0200
Ingo i...@miamiwave.com wrote:
BTW these take years of practicing!
Its an important point IMO. One cannot invent
a new instrument or style without becoming proficient.
You have to stand as an example to what is possible
and it takes a long time.
Many
Sorry Marco,
but I can see that you have never played jazz!
Marco,
Unfortunately not Ingo. Would love to.
I play regularly electroacoustic free improv.
So perphaps we are talking a different language?
Definitely!
Could you elaborate your answer?
If I'm missing something about the
Marco's disappointment is understandable (sorry if I
misinterpret this Marco). When I watched Top of the pops
as a teenager, like many kids of that age I was outraged
that the performers mimed. Sometimes you could see their
instruments were just props.
It is amazing that even most poeple in
I think it's a shame that in this day and age we are still promoting the
concept of high and low culture and so protective of peoples narrow
definition of what Pd is and for.
I do a fair amount of improv with Pd and it's a hell of a simpler gig
playing to 18 chin-scratching middle class people
glad the provocation went through.
You also used that word when posting an unrelated url on LinkedIn today.
Seems to be a mood that you are in.
sorry Mathieu, don't know what you are talking about. I even checked my
Linkedin and there's no provocation in there.
You might be confused with
I think the problem is really a simpler one. It applies to all
kinds of technological music. It is the understanding that the
audience has of the performance.
[snip]
It's great how you explain simple problems..
thanks :)
--
Marco Donnarumma
Independent New Media and Sonic Arts
What I have seen on your videos is very good and interesting but has
absolutely nothing to do with jazz - obviously!
Obviously not, I believe the two thing to be not even comparable because
deeply different in terms of creative outcome and perspective.
When playing jazz
[snip]
In case
once more that I really appreciate and like your live
playing / looping.
Ingo
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Onyx Ashanti [mailto:onyxasha...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juni 2011 12:39
An: i...@miamiwave.com
Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
I figured that I would
-
Von: Onyx Ashanti [mailto:onyxasha...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juni 2011 12:39
An: i...@miamiwave.com
Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as a
horn player
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as a horn
player does, into a looper which I use to layer everything very quickly into
an arrangement then deconstruct and reconstruct on a musically relevant
trajectory. There was
Tee hee
Welcome to the list Onyx, and well done for cracking open yet another
super-juicy can'o'worms for the list to chew on.
Props,
Jb
On 21 June 2011 13:10, Onyx Ashanti onyxasha...@gmail.com wrote:
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Every single note you hear, is being
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
It's not about having cables or not, it's about claiming to have
discovered the future. quote from his video read we MAKE the future.
Ah, well, when you were complaining about the cables, you see, I thought
you were talking about the cables.
It
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, J bz wrote:
Welcome to the list Onyx, and well done for cracking open yet another
super-juicy can'o'worms for the list to chew on.
Worms are quite nourishing : they are a tremendous source of proteins.
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Andy Farnell wrote:
Marco's disappointment is understandable (sorry if I misinterpret this
Marco). When I watched Top of the pops as a teenager, like many kids
of that age I was outraged that the performers mimed. Sometimes you
could see their instruments were just props.
welcome to the list onyx,
i liked your performance, and commend you for getting exposure for it.
my only question is, how annoying must it be to get asked to play Throw Ya
Guns at every gig ;)
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On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, J bz wrote:
I think it's a shame that in this day and age we are still promoting the
concept of high and low culture and so protective of peoples narrow
definition of what Pd is and for.
Reminds me of the idea that a social problem can't be solved by
technological
LOL KLF. period. enuff said!.
I don't think you're in danger of going OT, the authenticity
thing is right at the heart of this worm feast isn't it?
If Onyx Ashanti's showed up to make a good defence of performance
authenticity, there's actually a danger of constructive debate :)
We laugh at
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
That's why, conceptually, my favourite two performances are XTC's Making
Plans for Nigel, in which they made a point of hitting a gong that doesn't
sound like one,
IIRC there was a similar thing with Vince
Hi list
A link that might contribute, somehow, to the debate
http://www.jeanmarie-adrien.net/documentaire-inter.htm
cheers
JmA
Le 21 juin 11 à 17:33, Andy Farnell a écrit :
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
That's why, conceptually, my
To loosely echo my favourite cowboy philosopher Rick Roderick:
If you have an ideology the people most dangerous are those
close to you with similar ideas, because they might hold you
to your own values. ( it's a great gift to those in the business of
divide and conquer that minor differences
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
What's a « technological parody » ?
It's where you take something like a modern digital computer and do
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:08:48 -0500
Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote:
2. an unwarranted degree of specialization or wasteful usage of hardware
Anybody else got one?
Chuck
Kind of. How about a computer marketed as
a intuitive people's communication tool
that took me 35 festering
As Ingo said in a PM to me (sorry my bad on the cc Ingo),
Ooops! That wasn't ment to be a private mail. I thought I had it sent to the
pd-list, also. I guess I pushed the wrong button! Sorry!
Ingo
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Jean-Marie Adrien j...@jeanmarie-adrien.net wrote:
Hi list
A link that might contribute, somehow, to the debate
http://www.jeanmarie-adrien.net/documentaire-inter.htm
cheers
Thanks for sharing this.
I loved the starting remarks on connecting,
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:10:00 +0200
Onyx Ashanti onyxasha...@gmail.com wrote:
If that sounds like it is hard to do,
you're right.
How long did you practice with that arrangement
of controllers Onyx?
Did you become human cyborg unit six of seven, tertiary adjunct of unimatrix
twelve-O-five?
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:15:12 +1000
Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote:
We could look at TED as a kind of media
iceberg. The ideas showcased may often be
interesting but the substance of
their presentation is often lacking,
Seems a fair and insightful point. TED is populist.
The
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
What's a « technological parody »
I think it is super nice that Onyx joined the list and explained himself his
device.
Still in the subject of performance authenticity and validation of
performance... and also about audience/performer...
Onyx, do you think that perhaps all these questions that were raised about
what exactly you
Ingo,
thanks for your explanation, I think to understand how he's playing.
The movement looks to me secondary - it's more like a dance movement and
not
too much music control.
This might be a very personal take, but if movement is secondary in gestural
control, why one uses gestural control
Jumping on the discussion (not a frequent poster, but I do follow), I must
say I agree with Marco... but one question (kinda related, but at the same
time isn't): what would consist, then, improvisation when using Pd?
I mean, if you consider *free* improvisation the only thing I can think of,
in
If the musical structure you are playing on is opened,
also when the player is free to put whatever he likes,
you can call it an improvisation.
You don't need to be Coltrane to improvise,
what the hell is that mentality
- Pedro Oliveira he...@partidoalto.net a écrit :
Jumping on the
Hi Patrice,
I think you didn't get my point... I mentioned Coltrane as an example of a
musician that extrapolated his own instrument from the 12-tone idea
(particularly from *A Love Supreme* on).
However, I think that open musical structures are a more complex subject to
put it into the
Sorry Marco,
but I can see that you have never played jazz!
Ingo
Von: Marco Donnarumma [mailto:de...@thesaddj.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 20. Juni 2011 13:43
An: Ingo
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
Ingo,
thanks for your
I think the problem is really a simpler one. It applies to all
kinds of technological music. It is the understanding that the
audience has of the performance.
Most people have an idea how a flute or saxophone or guitar works.
They have picked one up and had a go at playing. Indeed,
many are
Bravo.
On 6/20/11 10:36 AM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote:
I think the problem is really a simpler one. It applies to all
kinds of technological music. It is the understanding that the
audience has of the performance.
Most people have an idea how a flute or saxophone or guitar
On 06/20/2011 01:43 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Ingo,
thanks for your explanation, I think to understand how he's playing.
i do not think i do (completely), though i have only watched it twice
so far. it seems that everything is based heavily on live-looping. at
first i thought he was using
, Ingo i...@miamiwave.com wrote:
Sorry Marco,
but I can see that you have never played jazz!
Ingo
Von: Marco Donnarumma [mailto:de...@thesaddj.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 20. Juni 2011 13:43
An: Ingo
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance
IMHO, the TED clip was quite mediocre.
As I'm a regular performer, ranging from jazz, to rock to contemporary
computer music, I think the TED example does not in any way
demonstrate the real possibilities with for example PD and gestural
controllers.
OTH, at times I've been accused of
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011, Pedro Oliveira wrote:
Hi Patrice, I think you didn't get my point... I mentioned Coltrane as
an example of a musician that extrapolated his own instrument from the
12-tone idea (particularly from A Love Supreme on).
sticking to 12-tone or getting out of 12-tone is
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
glad the provocation went through.
You also used that word when posting an unrelated url on LinkedIn today.
Seems to be a mood that you are in.
Thus, I was just wondering that I would have appreciated TED to show
some of them instead of this
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
What's a « technological parody » ?
It's where you take something like a modern digital computer and do
DSP by using an interface modeled after 30 year-old analog
audio equipment.
Hello Pedro,
J. Coltrane or the bird passed a very long time about learning and
experimenting patterns that sounds good all along standards.
Love supreme is from my point of view like the synthesis of all the knowledge
J. C. got from playing in clubs with best jazz players.
By analysing his
I think a lot of the folks who are disappointed with this being at TED are
frustrated because they are looking at it from an academic standpoint or at
least looking at it as a non-performer. You have to remember that he is
performing, and on top of that, probably trying to make a living as a
Patrice Colet to pd-list, Pedro
show details 12:07 PM (1 hour ago)
* In TED performance we see how interfaces would be used to interpret
electronic music, unfortunately the player doesn't seem to have a lot of
culture in electronic music, but maybe someone else with a lot more
experience and
--- On Tue, 6/21/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com, pd-list@iem.at
Date: Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 3:39 AM
On Sun, 19
-Christoph Steiner
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2011 06:45
An: pd-list@iem.at
Betreff: [PD] Pd performance at TED
I just wanted this performance by Onyx Ashanti as part of the TED Talks
stuff. Its quite a nice performance using live sensor control of Pd:
http://www.ted.com/talks
thanks for the link HC...
it seems quite sad to me that the first performance with pd at ted has to be
this.
With all the respect due to Onyx, but using control sensor to play as a dj
seems a technological parody.
Besides, the whole system looks a bit clunky, doesn't it?
It surprises me how
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
it seems quite sad to me that the first performance with pd at ted has
to be this. With all the respect due to Onyx, but using control sensor
to play as a dj seems a technological parody. Besides, the whole system
looks a bit clunky, doesn't
--- On Sun, 6/19/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Subject: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
To: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2011, 3:50 PM
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma
wrote
On Jun 19, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
it seems quite sad to me that the first performance with pd at ted
has to be this. With all the respect due to Onyx, but using control
sensor to play as a dj seems a technological parody
Nachricht-
Von: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] Im Auftrag von
Hans-Christoph Steiner
Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juni 2011 17:32
An: Mathieu Bouchard
Cc: pd-list@iem.at; Marco Donnarumma
Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
On Jun 19, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Mathieu Bouchard
glad the provocation went through.
Does it ?
yes, in my honest and humble 2 cents. That's why I asked for opinions.
There are gestural frameworks out there which are far better implemented
(talking about the look since Mathieu answered).
Thus, I was just wondering that I would have appreciated
I just wanted this performance by Onyx Ashanti as part of the TED Talks
stuff. Its quite a nice performance using live sensor control of Pd:
http://www.ted.com/talks/onyx_ashanti_this_is_beatjazz.html
It looks like you can even see Pd on the screen behind him.
.hc
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