Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If you set tk scaling to a fixed value, and use a font that is known to be installed (i.e. included with Pd), then the font sizes quite reliable in terms of pixel sizes, at least in my tests. .hc On Sep 24, 2007, at 7:49 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: The problem I'm having is that there

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-25 Thread Miller Puckette
Well, I'm trying to avoid dependences on stuff that isn't absolutely guaranteed to be there in the OS, so that Pd can work out-of-box without running installation scripts. Also, even though the sizes are apparently predictable with lucida etc., they are quite uncomfortably different from what Pd

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I can understand not wanting dependencies, but you can include Bitstream Vera Sans Mono with Pd. It's a free font. It would just be one file, two if you want normal and bold. http://www.gnome.org/fonts/#Final_Bitstream_Vera_Fonts It would be MUCH easier to deal with than say, ASIO,

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-24 Thread Miller Puckette
The problem I'm having is that there seems to be no reliable way to get a text font of a desired size using the Tk font primitives. In practice you can get a fixed-width font with a particular pixel width, but then the heights vary widely. If I simply fixed the height myself from Pd, it would be

[PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-23 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Miller wrote: This is why I'm thinking about what I call the nuclear option: separating all text into separate lines It's like the Québécois nucular family blowing up. It's proof that QC has WMD. Jean Crétin once said: «Pourquoi acheter des carabines à répétition et de l'armement nucléaire

[PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-22 Thread patrick
hi, i just installed pd-0.40.3 from miller's site and boom! http://www.workinprogress.ca/pd/pdantialiased.png looking good: font with anti-aliasing... i guess it's because it is using tk8.5 pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-22 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe Pd on Mac and Linux just uses whatever TK your machine has installed. (On windows I have to include TK in the Pd release, so it's fixed at 8.4 something I believe.) cheers Miller On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:22:26AM -0400, patrick wrote: hi, i just installed pd-0.40.3 from miller's

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-22 Thread Miller Puckette
This is why I'm thinking about what I call the nuclear option: separating all text into separate lines and controlling the vertical spacing from within Pd. I don't wanna do it, but it might be the only way out. cheers M On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 02:22:21PM -0400, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Sat,

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-22 Thread federico
slightly different on linux: http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9625/pdvf4.png On 9/22/07, patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, i just installed pd-0.40.3 from miller's site and boom! http://www.workinprogress.ca/pd/pdantialiased.png looking good: font with anti-aliasing... i guess it's

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I think that fighting against Tk and different font files is not a good option. That's basically what we have now, and it's not working well. I don't think fighting more against Tk will make things better. I think the best option is to use a standard font that is known to be the same

Re: [PD] pd-0.40.3 anti-aliased (screenshot)

2007-09-22 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Mac also uses the embedded Tcl/Tk. Only on GNU/Linux does Pd use the Tcl/Tk as installed in /usr/. .hc On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Miller Puckette wrote: I believe Pd on Mac and Linux just uses whatever TK your machine has installed. (On windows I have to include TK in the Pd release,