Re: [PD] DSP abstractions [was: netpd ...]

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I really like the idea of a standard library of DSP objects. I think > that one thing that can really make this project that much better is > having a clearly defined, usable, and clean common interface for this >

Re: [PD] cross-correlation in pd ?

2007-06-19 Thread Jamie Bullock
Hi, On Sun, 2007-06-17 at 23:01 -0500, Charles Henry wrote: > Jamie Bullock has cc~ in his flib collection. It computes cross > correlation in the time domain, and cross-covariance using the freq. > domain. I worked on it a while back...but have been lazy about trying > to change the cross-cov

Re: [PD] [GEM]: GL Shader Language

2007-06-19 Thread jack
Yep, very interesting example ! You can "boost" Gem with glsl object. Is there workshop in Paris about that Cyrille ? I think, that it would be interesting to do. Jack > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : >> >> On Jun 17, 2007, at 6:58 AM, cyrille henry wrote: >> >>> hello, >>> >>> >>> Kyle Kli

[PD] Turning on/off an installation

2007-06-19 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Hi all, I was wondering if someone has an idea on how one could create a switch to turn on and off an installation. I was thinking about either a push button to turn it off, or a web interface. Maybe one of those two things could make Pd (or PHP) write to a file that would be parsed by a cron job e

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 01:09 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:34 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Hallo, > > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > > > one question still remains: how is it organized? will some mercyful > > > person voluntarly collect the dsp

[PD] sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! any news?

2007-06-19 Thread patrick
hi, i've been interested in sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! for a year. exactly one year ago, someone was asking when we'll be able to try sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! sven replied: ... nobody knows - not even me (and i'm that guy) but be assured that i'm working on it - the current main problem is that the sun is shining

Re: [PD] [GEM]: GL Shader Language

2007-06-19 Thread jack
Hello Alexandre ! i can't use pdmtl because i change the pd-entended. Can you tell me how to install it. I just put in "doc" directory, the "pdmtl" directory. thx Jack > Eh Jack ! > Very nice examples, yes. Cyrille, do you think that one should > understand C programming in order to use Pd? I don

Re: [PD] Turning on/off an installation

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Alexandre Quessy hat gesagt: // Alexandre Quessy wrote: > I was wondering if someone has an idea on how one could create a > switch to turn on and off an installation. I was thinking about either > a push button to turn it off, or a web interface. Maybe one of those > two things could make

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > Name (of the patch/abstraction) > (Name of the) Author > Binary deps (pd-version, externals) > Patch deps (abs-collection or single abs) > License (e.g. Gnu GPL) > > though it is also my opinion, that in the first place it is important >

Re: [PD] [GEM]: GL Shader Language

2007-06-19 Thread Alexandre Quessy
Eh Jack ! Very nice examples, yes. Cyrille, do you think that one should understand C programming in order to use Pd? I don't. Of course, its low-level orientation makes it perfect for someone to learn lower level stuff. Anyways, I added an abstraction for shaders in the PdMtlAbstractions. See htt

[PD] [PD-announce] 25/26/27 Junio : Hangar : Taller de electronica DIY y Pure Data

2007-06-19 Thread ydegoyon
-- 25-27 de junio en Hangar, 15h - 21h http://www.hangar.org/docs/mapa_hangar.gif numero max. de participantes : 10 inscripción : 20 euros (cubre los materiales electrónicos para construir instrumentos que los participantes conservará

Re: [PD] Turning on/off an installation

2007-06-19 Thread Olivier Heinry
Le mardi 19 juin 2007 à 09:50 -0400, Alexandre Quessy a écrit : > Hi all, > I was wondering if someone has an idea on how one could create a > switch to turn on and off an installation. I was thinking about either > a push button to turn it off, or a web interface. Maybe one of those > two things

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
On 6/18/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > luckily just yesterday, i had a (very simple) idea, for which i waited > for years: > instead of opening the netpd-patches with the (for me) inconvenient > 'open'-message, i want to load them as abstractions. this has the BIG > advantage, that

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 17:11 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > Name (of the patch/abstraction) > > (Name of the) Author > > Binary deps (pd-version, externals) > > Patch deps (abs-collection or single abs) > > License (e.g. Gnu GPL) > >

Re: [PD] sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! any news?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 14.15, patrick wrote: > ping sven Not long ago there was an announcement sent to this list about "A Hack A Day" which featured Sven talking about Scrambled Hackz, according to the program notes cf. http://www.dock18.ch/ahackaday.html __

Re: [PD] (netpd)U(Pd-extended), Pd-ext bug-tracker (was Re: elitism, software and academia)

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 11:47 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > On 6/18/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > luckily just yesterday, i had a (very simple) idea, for which i waited > > for years: > > instead of opening the netpd-patches with the (for me) inconvenient > > 'open'-message, i wan

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 18.48, Roman Haefeli wrote: > i forgot to mention, my and syntax' abstractions use a version tag of > the format: > > [version x.x.x( (where x can be any integer number) > > this is used in netpd, though i am not sure if it makes sense to > have it > as a standard. if you thi

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 1.06, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 00:47 +0200, Steffen wrote: >> On 18/06/2007, at 23.21, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> >>> one question still remains: how is it organized? >> >> If it is of any interest i've already voided my opinion, cf. >> http://lists.puredata.inf

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: > Version numbers i think is crucial. It is simply a dread when folks > share there nice code and one don't have a simple system (version > numbers) to keep track of what is what and what is newer. By all > means, please! I don't think it's neces

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 19.52, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: > >> Version numbers i think is crucial. It is simply a dread when folks >> share there nice code and one don't have a simple system (version >> numbers) to keep track of what is what and what is newer. By all

[PD] How can i add binaries at File>Startup...?

2007-06-19 Thread Javier García
HI, when i go to File> Startup..., i see a list of binaries. How can i add one? I dont get it. br Javi _ Descubre la descarga digital con MSN Music. Más de un millón de canciones. http://music.msn.es/ ___

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 19:33 +0200, Steffen wrote: > The "x.x.x"-system might be nice. How do you use it? Keep the first > x=0 at all times as no code gets to version 1; bumb the second x when > new features are added; bumb the last x when bugs are corrected? - yo, that is how i use them. but

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 19:44 +0200, Steffen wrote: > > who does define the goals? > > I think you (pl.) are defining the goals and form of it in this email > correspondence. It goes quite well. When you consider it dense, add > it up in a README. Maybe even make a wiki page for it in http://

Re: [PD] dumpOSC feature request

2007-06-19 Thread Stephen Sinclair
I just wanted to say, I definitely agree to this request. I think the dashed-outline should _exclusively_ reserved for objects that fail to load. They should not fail to create if they are loaded. If they have bad arguments, they should be created, but simply refuse to work properly. It would be fa

Re: [PD] Turning on/off an installation

2007-06-19 Thread adam armfield
enabling power on by lan (in the bios) should allow remote control (along with shutting down via ssh or telnet i expect) all the best adam ___ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard pro

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 21.55, Roman Haefeli wrote: > a wiki-page for streamlining the idea and a little howto-guide > (with the > stuff we already discussed) would be nice, though i don't know how to > create the page, respectively who as write acces to it. I think it's a matter for proposing it to

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 17:11 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Some other things: A tricky issue may be abstractions that use other > custom abstractions. I think, a subdirectory for these > sub-abstractions would be good to have, so that the namespace doesn't > get polluted. personally, i don't su

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: > On 19/06/2007, at 21.55, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > a wiki-page for streamlining the idea and a little howto-guide > > (with the > > stuff we already discussed) would be nice, though i don't know how to > > create the page, respectively who as writ

[PD] documentation (was: DSP abstractions)

2007-06-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
A bridge with automated service discovery could be nice, but I fear that it may also be too much bureaucracy and in the end may not help, I would especially like to say, beware of the bureaucracy and anything that looks like it. It has to do with what the values of pd are: $1 = nice colours

[PD] gem mouse, how to get absolute coords?

2007-06-19 Thread danja
hi, being totally astonished by the answer to my previous post, i come with another sort of n00b/lazy question... object [mouse] in gem outputs relative coordinates, between '-1' and '1' for each of the two coordinates. there are few reasons for such behaviour, first device itself reports only rela

Re: [PD] gem mouse, how to get absolute coords?

2007-06-19 Thread Derek Holzer
danja wrote: > p.s. i can't use [gemmouse] as i'm having five devices and need to read > them individually. What about [hid]? d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ---Oblique Strategy # 38: "Courage!"

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I am curious, has anyone ever vandalized the netpd patches during a jam? ~Kyle On 6/19/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 19:33 +0200, Steffen wrote: > > > The "x.x.x"-system might be nice. How do you use it? Keep the first > > x=0 at all times as no code gets to

[PD] [pd] SIMD

2007-06-19 Thread hard off
i keep getting SIMD messages in pd's console window. doesn't seem to be causing any harm, but there are a lot of them and they get a bit annoying. it's a new thing that only started happening since i switched to pd extended (hans installer) 0.39.2 RC 2 ___

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Another interesting approach is that taken by pdmtl, which uses a namespace-type separation of objects based upon their type and use. IIRC, it is not in Pd-extended yet either... ~Kyle On 6/19/07, Steffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 19/06/2007, at 21.55, Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > a wiki-pa

Re: [PD] gem mouse, how to get absolute coords?

2007-06-19 Thread danja
well, for now i ended up by simply adding sequential delta values to each other: [inlet]___ | | [flow/valuechange]| | | [count/iter] or [accum] | [autoscale] | [int] | [outlet] doesn't feel very accurate, however gives me the right ranges.

Re: [PD] sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! any news?

2007-06-19 Thread David Powers
Looks like the code is still unreleased based on Sven's website. I'd also love to try playing with scrambled hackz, dope concept! ~David On 6/19/07, Steffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 19/06/2007, at 14.15, patrick wrote: > > > ping sven > > Not long ago there was an announcement sent to thi

Re: [PD] sCrAmBlEd?HaCkZ! any news?

2007-06-19 Thread Kevin McCoy
He could just give it to other people who would be more interested in cleaning it up and releasing it. At least the guy has a good sense of humor though :) k On 6/19/07, David Powers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Looks like the code is still unreleased based on Sven's website. I'd also love to

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Patco
Hello, Kyle Klipowicz a écrit : > I am curious, has anyone ever vandalized the netpd patches during a jam? > > It's true that things might be a lot more complicated if net-pd users starts to build net-pd objects with using pd-extended distro, and jam with people that are using net-pd distro.

[PD] match the closest number

2007-06-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
Nice. That's what I was looking for to improve my closest-note abstraction. See http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents#head-musical It is currently only "flooring" the values, I think. Closest is what it really means to be. (with floats, not just integers. If you need something th

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Here is a link to the pdmtl list of files. It has quite a few objects, and a lot of dsp ones too. I am all for adopting this framework, since it is already semi-established with users. http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents Let's face it, it's difficult to find objects through the sor

[PD] Teaching Pd

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Hi List~ I'm curious about teaching Pd to interested people, and know that a number of you have given workshops on the subject. I could really use some collective wisdom on this. What methods do you use to structure and communicate your course material? How do you market it within the city that y

[PD] Kansas City Area Pd Users?

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Hi List~ I'm just doing a quick shout out to locate any or all Pd users in the Kansas City area. If there are any, please speak up! ~Kyle -- - - - -- http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com ___ PD-list@iem

Re: [PD] dumpOSC feature request

2007-06-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jun 19, 2007, at 3:53 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote: > I just wanted to say, I definitely agree to this request. > I think the dashed-outline should _exclusively_ reserved for objects > that fail to load. > They should not fail to create if they are loaded. > If they have bad arguments, they shou

Re: [PD] [pd] SIMD

2007-06-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
My guess is that these are from zexy objects, perhaps IOhannes forgot to remove some debug messages before the release got branched: externals/zexy/src/0x3c0x7e.c: post("SIMD"); I think 0x3c0x7e is [>~], are you using that object? I suppose I could just remove this from the release

Re: [PD] match the closest number

2007-06-19 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: Nice. That's what I was looking for to improve my closest-note abstraction. See http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents#head-musical It is currently only "flooring" the values, I think. Closest is what it really means to be. (with floats,

Re: [PD] [pd] SIMD

2007-06-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > My guess is that these are from zexy objects, perhaps IOhannes forgot to > remove some debug messages before the release got branched: > > externals/zexy/src/0x3c0x7e.c: post("SIMD"); > > I think 0x3c0x7e is [>~], are you using that object? I suppose I co